The bullshit propaganda aside, it's fairly astonishing how they keep their track for restoring their former glory. Meanwhile between deinstitutionalization and allowing nimbys to halt the whole western infrastructure, the west(at large, not all) seems to have lost any vision at all what it wants to be.At bloc level we got the USA, who's desperate to keep up the status quo, doing nothing while sitting on petro dollars to keep the country afloat and then there's the EU who has even less clue what it wants to be, besides some regulatory cumulation.Meanwhile we can't even do anything about it as boomers' wealth is still the most important equilibrium in every western election.
>>542283091China gdp 2019: $17tusa gdp 2019: $18tChina gdp 2026:$19tusa gdp 2026: $33tChina has already done a japan in the 90s stagnation lmao, chinkoid bugfags just refuse to admit they will never escape the middle income trap due to demographic collapse
>>542283230ok let's try with real numbers nowChina gdp 2019: $14.5tusa gdp 2019: $21tChina gdp 2026:$21t (+45%)usa gdp 2026: $32t (+51%)
Chinese are the good guys, everyone should be supporting their sruggle. They are something that has been missing from this world for many decades now - a viable alternative to a world led by Western ideals, which do not seem to work anymore. Until at least 2010's it had been widely considered that the world had reached the "end of history", that nobody could stand in the way of a capitalistic liberal democracy, which would eventually spread across the entire globe and all societies would be modeled in her image. China is the first state in decades to have shown that this is not the case, not every country has to become a liberal "utopia" with time and could choose a very different path instead. China is a living example that such a path exists and can actually lead a country to success and prosperity. As long as China succeeds, it will always give hope to people that they they are not just "Americans in the making". China is inspiring.
Now allow for the word guessing program bubble.
>>54228338470% of china’s wealth was in residential real estate, which has lost $17t in value in the last year, crashing to pre 2000 levels. China is over bud, you bugophiles are so desperate hahahaha
>>542283431there's no difference between china and the west, they're just in different stages of development. their policies most often are different because the situation is different, not because of some moral or philosophical differenceit's, in my opinion, as much of a democracy as the usa
>>542283508it's a bit early to chant victory. your own great depression was followed by total victory in WW2
>>542283230go google up "china 5 year plan" for 2031the plan they came up in 2021 ended now, everything acomplished, M-MUCH GPD meanwhile WORKING americans live in they cars because they can not afford home
>>542283091Overcapacity will be their downfall.Last year, over half of global electricity demand growth came from China. That means they are industrializing faster than all other countries combined. This sounds good right? Wrong. It means that China has built production and industrial capacity for many products far beyond domestic demand. The result is falling prices, deflation and ultimately: collapse.China as it is now is unsustainable.>government getting more corrupt by the minute and grow ever more inefficient.>house prices declining>demographic collapse as it has the strictest immigration laws in the world which basically means they're committing ecnomic suicide as their population grows old>genociding their minority population (Uyghurs) which is worsening their labor demographics even further>technologically falling behind in all sectors
>>542283508Isn't that because they said houses are for living in and not for profit and give them away
>>542283431China is basically an ethnically homogeneous socialist state.
>>542283600>>542283632hahaha bugophiles are so mad the usa will always be the global superpower specifically because we have the best geography in the world, the worlds best farmland, more miles of navigable rivers than the rest of the world combined, etc and china will never be a great power specifically because their geography is shit with 14 neighbors who hate them for good reason and a first island chain owned by their competitor keeping them cucked and requiring the import of 70% of the fertilizer and energy needed to exist. China is nothing, china will never be anything just like your shithole countries will never be anything
>>542283679>Overcapacity will be their downfall.more or less than it was for usa in the 30s?
>>542283230>>542283508Arguably another example of their leadership. Cheap housing for the masses and they got it. Meanwhile most of USA's GDP growth in the last two years came from AI..>>542283679We're pretending mass migration is good now? Good call, Shlomo.
Chinks have small dicks
>>542283091Ameroid bugmen will seethe and cope.These subhuman will never admit they failed to subvert and cant contain China anymore. Adolf should have nuked Americans first. They are the greatest cancer to humanity
>>542283091No they saw doctor Fauci and did this.
>>542283685No its because china is extremely corrupt and lied about their population at every level and so they build out enough housing for 2b people even though they only have 6-800m people and since china doesnt let their people invest in anything else, everyone bought second and third apartments to store their wealth and then xi decided to stop using the government to fund the building of new apartments in ghost cities no one would ever live in and the entire house of cards collapsed. Except unlike our housing bubble of 2008, only 25% of Americans wealth is in real estate but 70% of chinas is. The entire wealth of their nation has nearly halved in the last few years
>>542283679The scary thing is that China's collapse is going to take down the global economy with it.Remember, China buys more cars than America and Europe combined.40% of BMW's sales comes from China, 38% for Audi and it's 37% for Mercedes Benz. VW had 50% of its sales from China at one point.GM sells more cars in China than the US. Buick has something like 80% of all it's sales going to China and that's only with 2.5% of the market share there.For Tesla, China accounts for 40% of their sales. Entire brands like Lincoln is kept alive because of China.35% of Apple's net sales are from selling iphones and services to Chinese consumers.Lego has 1000 Lego Stores worldwide but 500 Lego Stores are in China. Lego has a lot of American investors, Menlo Ventures is one of them. The gaming company Steam's largest market and highest revenue is from China, etc.The new disney movie Zootopia 2 made most of its money from China.It made more in China than Europe, Africa, Latin America, the Middle East and IndiacombinedEurope+Africa +Middle East+Latin America+India = $360,081,292China = $601,315,985Zootopia 2 is now the highest grossing western animated film of all time because of China.Shanghai Disneyland even opened a large Zootopia themed section recently.Their deflationary death spiral is not just a problem for China, but also a problem for the world.
>>542283091amerishits should stop bothering about trying to counter china. their more astute matches are new zealand and bahrain.
>>542283091>we wuz super sayentispublishing irreproducible gibberish and stealing from foreign universities is not science tho
>>542283679> The result is falling prices, deflation and ultimately: collapse.Oh no not my profit margins, making less money out of other people's work means COLLAPSE!>government getting more corrupt by the minute and grow ever more inefficient.They have a LONG way to catch up to us> house prices decliningoh no other terrible, terrible news, what will landlords and boomers do now> demographic collapse as it has the strictest immigration laws in the world which basically means they're committing ecnomic suicide as their population grows oldnooo they need the niggers, now with AI taking care of literally everything you need infinite useless niggers to feed and clothe more than ever, otherwise you COLLAPSE> genociding their minority population (Uyghurs) which is worsening their labor demographics even furthernooo genocide is bad because it makes labour more expensive (you have to be a jew, I refuse to believe you're not a jew)> technologically falling behind in all sectorsI'm gonna need a source for this one, what the fuck loltotally UNSUSTAINABLE, they're heading for COLLAPSEmeanwhile the western world is just perfectly stable and efficient, just print more money and import more niggersotherwise you COLLAPSEOvercapacity will be their downfall. Just imagine - not just you produce more than you need, you produce it so cheap that the prices of everything keep lowering. It's just TERRIBLE. They should destroy their factories, shut down their power plants and import a million or ten niggers just in case, then they will be great just like us.
>>542283526It doesn't even matter what it is. The point is they have a vision. We have nimbys. (Yes, i know burgers are gonna fly to the mars any second now. Just after AI finally solves driverless cars.)
>>542283091I always thought it was weird that America celebrates negro's who run around on a field whilst in India and China it's the smart engineers and industrialists who are the heroes of the youth
>>542283978Get the fuck out of my thread, subhuman.
>>542283091I'd only be a pro-chink shill if the kuomintang was still in charge of mainland china and taiwan.
>>542283790Ameroids just fart their soundsbites into the wind to mimic human conversation. Theres no conclusive rationale. Its like a bug flapping his dotted wings to appear like a larger animal. There is no point talking to it. The Ameroid is not trying to have a conversation with humans they just learned to make noises to confuse humans for their own survival.
>>542283091>Amerimutts are Angry
>>542283754you could call it socialism, of the national kinddoesn't roll off the tongue though, I think we need a shorter name here
>>542284061>my thread.wo-okay big man. plz don't call the cyber polis on me i beg you. fuck off dimwit.
You guys are clueless. None of you know what's actually happening in China.
>>542283091Reminder that China's HSR system is $1 trillion in debt and not making a profit, yet they're committed to building even MORE. It's insane.https://chinafactor.news/2024/11/25/china-is-speeding-toward-a-us1-trillion-black-hole/https://www.cato.org/blog/chinas-high-speed-debt-trapIt is causing them to be in massive uncontrollable debt with no way out other than collapse.
>>542283091That's cringe. They need to put twerking niggresses and transgender actors in those screens.
>>542284255China is collapsing
>>542283091if might makes right? yes. otherwise, no, not really.
>>542284255> eminder that China's HSR system is $1 trillion in debt and not making a profit, yet they're committed to building even MORE. It's insane.nooo we built a shitload of train that carries people all over the place but the number on the screen says we're in DEBT, that means COLLAPSEWe should just print more money like the west does, so we'd no longer be in debt. Why don't we do that? > It is causing them to be in massive uncontrollable debt with no way out other than collapse.The UNCONTROLLABLE debt, can't be chained that motherfucker. You can be the world's factory, build infrastructure at a breakneck speed, increase your energy production by 100% in years, all the while keeping your nation racially homogeneous - but if you don't have big number on screen, you're gonna COLLAPSEHow's the US national debt going by the way? All good there? Maybe you need the FED to print some more USD and buy it yourself, cause it seems like the whole world is dropping it like a hot potato
>>542284255Also, china doesn't just have ghost houses. They have ghost subways.China building all these subway lines might seem impressive, that is until you realize they have subway stations in the middle of nowhere. See:https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/18gxozt/exit_of_chinese_subway_in_the_middle_of_nowhere
>>542283508>residential real estate, which has lost $17t in value in the last yearis that supposed to be bad? what the fuck?
>>542283685reminder there was a law put on Trump's desk that had similar sounding statement. guess what happened to the bill, anons?
>>542283091Fuck no. Scientists are mentally ill enough. You do not want to inflate their egos any more than they already are.
>>542284308Please don't give them ideas. I remember when it were manatees in Nike sport bras.>>542284255>putting interregional prosperity above direct provabilityAnd that's a bad thing how? They connected people, now they're following up on goods. Of course they're building more. >uncontrollable debtSays the US flag out of all things.
>>542283784>usa will always be the global superpower specifically because we have the best geography in the world, the worlds best farmland, more miles of navigable rivers than the rest of the world combined, etc and china will never be a great power specifically because-I'd hate to rain diarrhea on your parade, but no country on earth is actually going anywhere. There is no tech race with china. China is merely copying shit that other people build and taking credit for it. The biggest blunder we can ever make is taking china seriously. You're consuming nothing but psywar slop from both sides. China is obviously coping in every measurable metric. The U.S is a waning superpower because all of america's priorities revolve around starting shit with other countries just to have a purpose for being the world police, and china never will be a superpower because they don't completely understand the levels of micro and macro organization that it takes to be one. As long as there is only one economic system on this earth controlled by interconnected banks, you won't see world war 3 or some country shitting on another in some cold war esque standoff. You'll only continue to see competing interests on TV in the form of speeches and partnerships along with the usual "America needs to be dominant in X otherwise, china will steal american penises! We can't let that happen!"
>>542284517>Also, china doesn't just have ghost houses. They have ghost subways.>China building all these subway lines might seem impressive, that is until you realize they have subway stations in the middle of nowhere. So they have so much money they literally make ghost subways and ghost towns that you can travel to with public transportation? And some retarded mutt will tell me this is somehow a bad thing...
>>542284509You do realize that China's debt has had a 700% increase in the last 10 years right?Xi is like a person who keeps raising at the poker table, but has to keep hitting the ATM between rounds of betting. Now he's hitting the loan sharks up each round, just to be able to say "I raise." But now he can no longer raise without the house of cards collapsing. Meanwhile, he can't reduce exports or China becomes a comical version of Japan. The shiny rock ponzi game failed, the real estate ponzi failed 4 years ago and there is nothing else to save its ponzi. If its deflation accelerates, and it appears to do so, China has only one last option: attack Russia
>>542283091They're looking at every aspect of how Western society failed and doing the opposite so they succeed. It's not really difficult to understand. Actors and sports players should be treated like prostitutes. What they're doing is nothing more useful than a softshoe dance.
Holy chinkshill thread, Batman!Did you get kicked out of /k/ again, and decided to spam /pol/?
>>542283091china is a totalitarian dictatorship, and the people in charge there take decisions that overall benefit themselves and their population overtimethe west is a totalitarian dictatorship, and the people in charge are there are literal baby eating satanists that hate their subjects with a passion, want them dead or enslaved, and are set to destroy their nations whatever it takesthat's all there is to it. Is china good? Hell no, they're the opposite of good. They're a technodictatorship with full control over everything. It's just that the west manages somehow to be worse than that.
>>542283852Yes they're known for micro pee pee and low testosterone
>>542284633Fuck me. An american with a brain.
>>542283091Does china have an occupation like MD in the US that guarantees entry to upper class? Other than business owner.
>>542284650>So they have so much money they literally make ghost subways and ghost towns that you can travel to with public transportation?No, the local municipality must use up the allocated money from the party, even by creating absurd projects, bridges to nowhere, and ghost cities. And the construction, of course, is Serbian trainstation-tier, and with bamboo instead of steel.
>>542284692GNOOO NUMBER IS GOING UP> Xi is like a person who keeps raising at the poker tableDo you even know what the FED is doing, right now?Do you know what happens when the petrodollar is dead?If you set aside the number on the screen, China has real, very tangible assets.If you set aside the number on the screen, the west has absolutely NOTHING
>>542284766Ave and checked.
>>542283784>island chain owned by their competitorabout that...>>542284692yet another shill ignoring the elephant in the room
>>542283230>nominal instead of real GDPMutties really think their economy is doing better because a strong dollar, a strong dollar caused by unprecedented uncertainty around the global economy, largely caused by their own incompetence
>>542283822Migration will be one the major reasons for Chna's Fall. Currently their manufacturing work force has flat lined yet their manufacturing value added per employee continues to rise. However, this is absolutely unsustainable with their demographics pyramid. Remember what Peter Zeihan said. Stuff like food, electricity, etc doesn't just appear into existence, it comes from people. As the population ages, the ratio of people who produce to people who consume gets skewed in favor of people who consume. when there's too many old people, and just young people, it all collapse. That's common sense. That's why immigration is imperative.
>>542283091Yes the chinks are right. It’s over. The west is a corpse being looted. Of course the west is still going to exist in some form but it’s undeniably a chink century ahead of us >>542283384>printed fiat money is the real deal goyim Lmfao
>>542284954> Remember what Peter Zeihan said.Two more weeks till chink collapse, right?
>>542283091Scientists and Doctors save livesPoliticians and Military destroy themWhat do you think, jew lover?
>>542284954Verschwinde, du Jude.
>>542284954> As the population ages, the ratio of people who produce to people who consume gets skewed in favor of people who consume. when there's too many old people, and just young people, it all collapse. That's common sense. That's why immigration is imperative.You’re just projecting your evil globohomo jew replacement ideologies onto others. The chinks are gonna be just fine like they’ve always been. They have 1.4 billion people
>>542284883Do you understand that factories are literally moving out of China because their wages are getting too high? Western companies are fleeing that sinking shithole and removing investments and factories
Of course. Worshipping jewish singers and movie stars is fucking cringe and pointless. Literally meaningless.
>>542285347>Worshipping jewish singers and movie stars is fucking cringe and pointless. >Literally meaningless.Not even just meaningless, it’s actively bad for a person and society
>>542283679>China has too much of the necessities of modern life, which is...le bad!Oh no people might be able to afford things
>>542284244Whatever the reality on the ground is, it has to be better than being ruled over by kike satanic pedophiles
Oh no they don't have Ugly Niggers on their adds . WW3 them right now REEEEEEEEEEE
>>542284042Only Niggers when its a white guy in the Olympics getting a win the media completely ignores it. There are complete traitors running us from a certain tribe.
>>542284801Yeah, there's no reason to be bent out of shape over some slanty eyed fuckfaces that can't figure out how to design a proper drainage system to keep their subways from flooding every typhoon season. Both the USA and China have a short term mentality applied in different ways. America is purely reactive and focused on selectively optimizing geopolitical and economic conditions to primarily benefit the people at the top without properly supporting the underlying structures that made their lives possible. A good example of this would be the U.S outsourcing all of their factories to countries with cheaper labor costs (China), or figuring out ways to cheapen production costs of the few products that are assembled here by designing them to be disposable (technological enshittification). But then, when faced with a dilemma about domestic production capacity, they panic out of sheer paranoia that they may be cut off in some manner. China's short term thinking on the other hand revolves entirely around making totally unstable structures look completely stable on the outside. They're not concerned with quality much like the U.S, however the idea of stability for them is purely aesthetic and without selective structural optimization. When whatever they build fails, they quickly and violently sweep it under the rug. The USA in contrast runs on complaints and complacency. They will only do the bare minimum required to keep things somewhat functional for as little cost as possible. In China, even if a road swallows up 50 cars, the people responsible for infrastructure aren't going to give a shit and will arrest anyone who reports the real situation. The only thing the USA is really good at is partially admitting to complacent behavior while doing the bare minimum required to solve a problem. America hasn't gotten to complete shithole level yet, however we're starting to see more cracks show in the form of institutional integrity and personal accountability.
>>542285299(((western))) companies are looking for the next cheapest possible slave labour source, so of course they're "fleeing that shithole", it's not as easily exploitable now.china has automated the vast majority of its production, is still to this day pumping a huge amount of resources into automation and AI, and generally doesn't follow the same logic of the west (aka exploit as much as possible for the maximum possible profit)
>>542285843that's a very very low bar..
>>542283431What media does China have that the world wants? Any recent inventions? Anything I can buy right now?It's cool that they steal patents and rerelease products at a discount vs USA... But anyone can feign loyalty and steal data from their jobs, which is their only trick it seems.
>>542283091Europe and West was at peak when scientists were celebrated like the ones in Solvay Conference.Then commies came and started celebrating workfroce. Then nazis came and started celebrating any retard who looked like "aryan" and jacked off to sportsmen. Then jews updated it to celebrity worship and looksmaxxing worship.
>>542286054It is. Yet here we are.
As usual, gullible Westerners are taking propaganda at face value. The truth is that in China the vast majority of people are stuck doing dumb factory work or providing shitty services (like food delivery). Youth unemployment is high and the future is looking bleak.
>>542283091good for them, promoting people that actually try thrusting mankind forward. instead of the west, that puts clowns and their entertainment on a pedestal: athletes, actors, authors.
>>542285985>>542284801And this goes without saying that the U.S is spending itself to death precisely because they're getting bent out of shape over china. As I've said before, taking china too seriously is the most dangerous thing that the american government can do. Just because they LOOK like they have their shit together will result in rash decisions being made. As of late, we are trillions in debt with most of our spending going toward an ineffective military that asks more for new weapon systems more than it asks for better training. This prompts the MIC to scam the DoD by making expensive shit that they really don't need and it's driving the deficit through the roof.
>>542283230>lets print money and ciclejerk-bounce it around a bunch of companies>vs somewhat legit chink gdp, in the sense you at least get real merch things instead of mere smoke and mirror promisesThis will surely end up well
>>542284633>As long as there is only one economic system on this earth controlled by interconnected banks,There technically isn't or Russia would be fully collapsed by now, since they just turned all that shit off for Russia after Crimea. International finance obviously wants a return to the neoliberal 90s for Russia and that it hasn't happened shows there's at least one other system at work.The idea that economic interconnectedness prevents wars seems to be a post-WWII/90s delusion now. It does seem to make wars come on slower, but as we're seeing now, eventually someone turns a crank they shouldn't have and war comes on anyway.
>>542284836>No no, when government builds infrastructure that makes life easier for the plebs that's le bad because it isn't immediately profitable for someone.>It's far better to build nothing like we do in the West, since then profits are higher.In other news, California's high speed rail is the perfect project because a lot of people made a lot of money on it for little effort.
>>542283091It should put the victims of tiananmen massacre on its billboards
>>542285299Which is bad news because China is in late stage demographic collapse while being completely dependent on exports. And it's exports dependency on the world is only deepening. China’s exports last month jumped 25% from a year earlier.bug repellent:>动态网自由门 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命 The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution 人權 Human Rights 民運 Democratization 自由 Freedom 獨立 Independence 多黨制 Multi-party system 台灣 臺灣 Taiwan Formosa 中華民國 Republic of China 西藏 土伯特 唐古特 Tibet 達賴喇嘛 Dalai Lama 法輪功 Falun Dafa 新疆維吾爾自治區 The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region 諾貝爾和平獎 Nobel Peace Prize 劉暁波 Liu Xiaobo 民主 言論 思想 反共 反革命 抗議 運動 騷亂 暴亂 騷擾 擾亂 抗暴 平反 維權 示威游行 李洪志 法輪大法 大法弟子 強制斷種 強制堕胎 民族淨化 人體實驗 肅清 胡耀邦 趙紫陽 魏京生 王丹 還政於民 和平演變 激流中國 北京之春 大紀元時報 九評論共産黨 獨裁 專制 壓制 統一 監視 鎮壓 迫害 侵略 掠奪 破壞 拷問 屠殺 活摘器官 誘拐 買賣人口 遊進 走私 毒品 賣淫 春畫 賭博 六合彩 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Winnie the Pooh 劉曉波动态网自由门
The people in here claiming China is a collapsing shithole are on par in terms of intelligence and brainwashing with those who claim it's already number 1.
>>542286392>Russia would be fully collapsed by nowYou're right but for the wrong reasons. Russia isn't fully cut off because there are more than a few companies out there that are actively bypassing sanctions to maintain what little presence they have there in the consumer sector, but many important things like minerals and petroleum from russia can't be traded between russia and the rest of europe easily. Most of russia's really important industries are state backed, so they can keep chugging at a snail's pace even though they're going down shit creek anyways.
>>542283091yet none of them are Nobel Prize winnerspathetic tiny dick wanker chinks. Even Japanese mogged subhuman chinks, let alone the actual true champion of scientific discovery, engineering invention, and technological innovation: The Europeans, and EU has the most Nobel Prizes (both total and per capita)get rekt chinx
>>5422867341. The Chinese do have Nobel laureates.2. The United States has more than all EU nations combined.Begone, memeflag.
>>542283944>the US debt crisis is going to collapse the global economy>no, the yen carry trade is going to collapse the global economy!>no, actually it's China's deflation!Yawn, wake me up when something happens
>>542286050>china has automated the vast majority of its productionThat's the cope among current chink economists who say that they're going to compensate their demographics decline with automation and AI so they won't have to rely on immigrants from Africa or their neighbor Vietnam. The idea is that they will hyper industrialize their manufacturing base and facilitate a fourth industrial revolution of automation as their blue collar force retires over the next decades. It's more utopian commie gobbledegook than actually viable economics.Meanwhile, robots fuck up all the time with sensor errors and jams. Even if their robots/AI become more efficient over time as technology improves, that means fewer humans are needed.Then the government gets stuck dealing with the fallout. What happens when all the humans who are supposed to consume all the products are out of money?
mutts itt
>>542287013The biggest with robots and the advancement of AI fused with robots is that it will cause mass joblessness. For example China is slowly automating its agricultural sector which is causing lower food prices and deflation.
>>542287137Which means people won't be able to have money for food and housing
>>5422870131. China isn't alone in East Asia in trying to offset subpar demography with automation, see Japan and South Korea.2. China is and has been transitioning to services for years now, following the same track as the other East Asian giants. What will remain is the high tech manufacturing, which is not labour-intensive.3. China isn't communist and arguably hasn't been since 1979.
>>542287206>spends billions automating factories>robots make everything cheaper>fewer humans needed to work>millions of chinks get replaced by AI machines>unemployment increases>consumer demand decreases because no one can afford to buy things if they don't have a job>economy crashes
>>542283091>Are the chinks right?No, they are most definitely still LEFT.Looks like they are planning to take back the title!
>>542283091They should also put up the face of the person they stole that information from.
>>542286618And that state backed industry doesn't count as a separate financial system because...?
>>542287206>robot arm with more articulation needed than neccesarywhy the fuck didn't they just use a delta instead?
>>542287228Except Japan and South Korea are smart enough to loosen their immigration policies while China is going all in on automation and AI. China continues to have one of the most strict immigration laws in the world which makes it almost impossible for non han chinese to get citizenships. They're setting themselves up for failure.
>>542287534>>542287206forgot pic
>>542283508>chinks can afford houses It’s over for chyna
>>542284032If a card in my graveyard counted as being in play(on the battlefield would be more correct), why would I want to cast them? Just for ETB triggers?
>>542284255You have 40 trillion debt retard moron and bond %%% is going up and up
>>542287569Yes, we've all seen Japan's grand unveiling of their plan to import hundreds of thousands of Indians, but I personally don't subscribe to the neoliberal notion that mass immigration will solve all of your economic woes, as it seemingly hasn't for the West.
>>542287569I see what you are doing there. That is quite smart.
>>542283384>>542283230US gdp growth is entirely inflation.
>>542287502>And that state backed industry doesn't count as a separate financial system because...?Because there is no petro ruble to act as an alternative reserve currency to the petro dollar, there are no other financial instruments or incentives that can reel potential buyers in, and there is no well funded and well organized military there to defend any of it. Russia can be added to the list of retarded nations because their top brass will sell their own nuclear fuel just to pad their paychecks and buy another villa in switzerland. I don't even think russians aren't concerned with living life beyond engaging in simple sustenance, alcoholic indulgence, and systemic exploitation at all.
>>542283230Chinese growth is tangible developments and manufacturing. US growth is multiplying numbers on a screen and passing it around in a circle.
>>542283508>which has lost $17t in valueas speculative assets. They haven't lost any value for their actual purpose: housing people.It's hilarious how /pol/tards will cry that high housing prices are "literally contributing to wHiTe GeNoCiDe" in the west, then in the next thread act like China is collapsing because they don't have that problem.
>>542283679>le overcapacityNothing makes you kikes seethe like Communists mass producing things people need so they're affordable AT THE EXPENSE OF PROFIT. This kills the Jew.
>>542287950Literally the second comment in the thread gave the accurate IMF figures, you're responding to something already proven to be wrong.
>>542287752Dude, the UK's health care system, the NHS, was on the verge of collapse because they didn't have enough doctors and nurses, but the increase in south asian immigrants stabilized it. In fact, the UK can thank immigrants from turkey, india, and MENA countries, even nigeria for the increase in doctors. Look up those resident programs from UK universities like Exeter and see the faceshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVdiB9vxEXIThat girl is turkish and the other two are nigerians and they're the ones saving our mom's and dad's lives as they get older. Pax america will reign another 100 years because of this model. We'll have high iq immigrants to help innovate and low iq immigrants to wipe our ass when we become boomers so our average age will still be young.I recommend reading Peter Zeihan's book: The Accidental Superpower: The Next Generation of American Preeminence and the Coming Global Disaster. Countries like he USA, UK, France, Turkey are going to be left standing because we won't face demographic collapse like nordic countrics, germanic countries, korea, russian, eastern europe, china.Here's a Peter Zeihan podcast ep where he explains it really well. Here's one of the quotes:"Now, one of the problems that the Europeans and the Japanese are having right now – and the Chinese for that matter – is that when they industrialized, they move directly from the farm into relatively dense urban clusters and the birthright crashed and forty, fifty, sixty, seventy years on, all of them have gone terminal.https://getricheducation.com/episode/237-how-america-works-with-peter-zeihan
>>542288203Here's a key exerpt from his book>The Germano-centric world, primarily Germany, Belgium, the Netherlands, Austria, and Italy, were part of an earlier wave of industrialization that predates World War II. Due to their heavily urbanized productive economies, there hasn't been room for children in these systems for decades. Therefore, the Germans, Italians, and others are not running out of kids as it happened 40 years ago. Instead, this decade, they will run out of working-age adults, with a full inverted pyramid, and the bulge in that pyramid for all these countries is beyond 50, already reaching into the 60s. This means that this entire zone will age into mass retirement and obsolescence, and we do not have an economic theory designed for what happens in a country where you no longer have children or young adults or mature adults, and it's all retirees. It has always been known that the German economic model was going to collapse before the end of this decade, and the question is whether something else, such as a trade war, an energy crisis, or a war with Russia, will speed up this process. These are the countries that will vanish from the world by 2050.
>>542284032kek the copers are so sad. Everything they complain is destroying the west, mass migration, unemployment, wage stagnation, unaffordability of everything suddenly become good things when it comes to China, and not having those problems = collapse.
>>542283091Our Universities taught them
>>542283230lol you believe americas bullshit gdp numbers
>>542288203You're operating under the misapprehension that the NHS is no longer under immense duress simply due to the increase in workforce when that doesn't account for the decades of austerity under successive Tory PMs, with many health facilities quite literally falling apart due to chronic lack of funding, that same lack of funding being one of the primary causes British doctors left for better opportunities, being brazenly poached by nations like Australia.
>>542283526>not because of some moral or philosophical differenceThey treat the foundation of power very differently. Confucianism wants to look for the most virtuous/competent youth in whatever bumfuck village he may be born in, and bring him to a palace to rule everyone else. Liberal democracy believes that men will naturally seek out power to themselves, so they seek to limit how much power any one party can exert. The result is that you have warring factions/mafias in western democracies and nothing beyond rent extraction gets done, while in China they have imperial examinations/gaokao to look for brilliant minds and give them power.The problem with the chinese elite selection level was that at previous technological levels it was impossible to give everyone a quality, equal education base, so measuring results did not work out. Liberal democracies correctly handled the unequal access to resources. Now it is piss easy to copy and transmit data, so it is inane for liberal democracies to not have competency implemented.
>>542283230>>542283384>gdp>meanwhile china is the one actually producing things >USA buys parts from china and assembles them>wow look at how much more productive we are, we buy cheap parts then sell them for huge mark ups!>>542283508>>government goes ham on producing houses>LOL CHINA SO STUPID MAKING SO MANY HOUSES LOL>NOW THEIR LANDLORDS WILL SUFFER>THEIR SPECULATORS WHO BOUGHT INTO HOUSING REAL ESTATE WILL SUFFER!>HOW IS THEIR ECONOMY TO SURVIVE IF 60% OF PEOPLES INCOME ISNT GOING TO BOOMER LANDLORDS? ITS OVER!!11!1!!Boomers need to inspected and any found to be suffering retardation from all the lead paint need to be barred from any government position or viting, if not humanely euthanized on the spot.
>>542285207They've internalized the rational used for flooding the west with third worlders. Such buckbroken goy slaves. Anything short of infinite growth = collapse. They think being overcrowded like India is a good thing if it makes line go up, and at no point does more people stop being good.China already have more industrial robots per worker than Germany or Japan, and continue to install more per year than the rest of the world combined. Who says they need 1.4billion+ people for the economy in the future? Even the worst demographic projections, lets say the population gets cut in HALF. They'll still have as many people as the US and EU combined, they'll still all be ethnic Chinese, and the generation after will all be Chinese, unlike western muttoids.
>>542287365Life expectancy under Mao increased by 30+%
>>542284766>west manages somehow to be worseworse is hard to state. you can do and say shit even in your cunt that would get you sent to reeducation camps in China.
>>542288883If I recall the World Bank population estimate for China was a bit under 1 billion by 2100, correct me if I'm wrong on that but even a decrease of 400 million would still be catastrophic, although I'm clearly not of the opinion they will experience some great collapse, either economically or demographically.
>>542287863Oh, you're some boomer living in 1995. The state-backed industry you're talking about is actually so different you can't even conceptualize it.>But where's the foreign investment?!?!?!?!
>>542289192If China's pop goes down to 1 billion, where it was in the 1980's, who exactly is it catastrophic for? Chinese people will still have an ethnostate, food, jobs, and all that. Housing prices will go down ever further, wages will go up.It's pure boomer mentality to think that the population always must go up, otherwise who will rent your investment properties? Who will create consumer demand for your stock portfolio to grow? Who will take care of you in the nursing home?In their mind there is no such thing as a equilibrium, there's no point where they can say "we have enough people". It has to be infinite and unsustainable expansion.
>>542283230How did our economy almost double since 2019? Why hasn’t my salary kept up? I was making $170 k and now I’m making 200k
>>542289811It's about the ratio of young to old people.Chinks are losing workers while we're gaining workers especially from Mexico and India. Mexico for the low wage labor work to pick our fruits and India for the high iq work to run companies like Microsoft.Btw, in America I hardly any see minorities because I stick to the suburbs. Remember, fewer people, that's fine, it's manageable, it's still bad for the economy considering how it works, but not THAT bad. Old fucks making up the entire population? Then you're fucked
>>542289007That still doesn't make your vaxxine safe and effective.You have made your peace with God, right anon?You don't have long left.
>>542283230>paying 20 bucks for a burger instead of 5 bucks is good because that's quadruple the contribution to the GDP
>>542288883>China already have more industrial robots per worker than Germany or Japan, and continue to install more per year than the rest of the world combined.What is the point of hyper abundance and overcapacity if no one can afford it because they don't have a job?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Aro6AZ9oXI
>>542289997>Chinks are losing workers while we're gaining workers especially from Mexico and India. Mexico for the low wage labor work to pick our fruits and India for the high iq work to run companies like Microsoft.Kek.Chinese don't want to toil in the fields doing farm work either. Instead of flooding their country with 3rd worlders, they build robots to automate the back breaking labor aspects of food production.How are Indian's in tech working out for you? All those Boeing plane falling out of the sky is the fruit of your "high iq" indian workers engineers lol.Like I said, it's a boomer mentality.
>>542290216>What is the point of hyper abundance and overcapacity if no one can afford it because they don't have a job?This is something for capitalist serfs to worry about. Communists already have a solution: own the means of production.
>>542290002>You have made your peace with God, right anon?You worship Yahweh and his Jewish son. No thanks.
>>542283091chinksect can fuck themselves
>>542289973Because the "growth" is the result of printing money until inflation causes everything to be twice as expensive. Viola, impressive GDP growth.
>>542283091A country which values intellect and reason, a model for all nations.
>>542283091obituary
>>542283091I think western countries should promote researchers and scientists a lot more.>>542283230>china national debt: 14 trillion>usa national debt: 40 trillionUSA doesn't even have money. And the vast majority of the GDP in USA is in one state shared between a few corporations.
>>542287013>The idea is that they will hyper industrialize their manufacturing baseThey are.They surpassed Germany and Japan in automation years ago and aren't slowing down.
>>542290972Pagpag Seanig
>>542283091I never thought I would love China this much. How did they really do it?
>>542291828chinkbugs 56 years history collapse like their buildings
>>542284255Americuck is $40 trillion in debt yet they have no HSR, dogshit decaying infrastructure, billions spent on pushing feminism, LGBT, nig nog worship faggotry all around the globe and foreign wars for kikes. Yet, subhuman muttoids think China is the one collapsing
>>542292407Thats very clean demolition
>>542284954>mericuck wants to own China so badly it's now advocating for shitskin migration. Yeah, all those nogs and jeets have been an absolute boon to the merigroid economy. Totally not masking the inflation and depressing wages for muttoids
>>542285347Mutts literally worship the most niggerfied, 20 IQ, subhuman skanks and nogs.Remember the hawk tuah slut? She was a fucking nobody whore that did nothing other than say hawk tuah when interviewed on the street and the amerigolem masses turned her into a celebrity overnight and gave her millions and bought her crypto scam coin.There are is no bigger subhuman cattle population than muttoids. All of them needs to be thrown into a meat grinder
>>542283091>a womanAsk me how i know this is AI.
>>542283091sigh...That's so Based.
>>542284255Trains are a public good and needn't be run for profit.Public parks are also not profitable, but nobody considers them a communist scheme.
>>542294418>billions spent on pushing feminism,It's even worse in China. Here's a video of a Chinkette bus driver. A lot of male jobs like these are taken by women. Also more women graduate from university than men there. So much for China being "trad" and "based."
>>542297925That’s fine since women seemingly have little presence in governance. And I would at least think these women earn their place and aren’t just dei’d. The issue with their birthrates however is because women can make their own money. So they’ll have to square that when they finally want to deal with it.
>https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1788967750240859.jpgThis is because scientists are in charge of running China, so they naturally golrify themselves.In Usa the youngsters in your ruling clans all want to be on television and be hollywood celebrities.So that's why Usa glorify television personalities and hollywood celebrities.In old China you have scholars and teachers in charge of writing stories and fiction.In their fiction, the scholars always glorify scholars.This is just human nature.
>>542283230Nigger… you really believe the USA is nearly TWICE AS WEALTHY as it was just 7 years ago? Something is not adding up. Those numbers are about as real as the holocaust
>>542283431Kys you stupid avatar nigger faggot, your opinion is worthless
>>542283230The EU and China both regulate before deployment. You need permission to ship. The US regulates ex post: ship it, and if it hurts someone, the courts and the FTC sort it out later.Before its lost decade, Japan was ex ante to the bone. Probably the purest version ever built. MITI would "suggest" what a company should do. Nothing legally binding. Everyone complied, because MITI controlled your import licenses, your foreign exchange allocation, and your permission to license foreign technology. It was permission-based capitalism with a polite face.So china and europe will face the same fate eventually, they are already on the way in fact,Punch-line is that America is market-rational and thats why it always win, china and the eu are plan-rational.
>>542283091>>542300693>>542299857>>542298904>>542297925>>542292407>>542291518lol
>>542301345In Muttmerica the scientists are owned by the corporations/bankers.In China the corporations/bankers are regulated by the scientists.Tough shit to be you, but you have the system you deserve.
>>542299645That's not how GDP works. (If you cut the purchasing power of the fiat currency in half you double the GDP.)
China should have continued with democratic reforms, they would be like a very large South Korea now, well liked and influential all over the world. A less constrained populace would have been able to match industrial output with demand. This has not happened.
