Previous: >>543102908Day 1,673 – Daily assessment: understandingwar.org/analysis/russia-ukraine/#research▶Latest>Samara refinery strike>Ufa refinery strike>Mosquew authorities didn't initiate alerts during the raid to "ensure election attendance" >Ukraine launched over a thousand drones at mosquew, setting the refinery ablaze and killing at least 3 rusniggers>Ukraine’s 3rd Army Corps Recaptures 125 Sq Km in "Operation Vivaldi" in Donetsk Region> The Third Army Corps paralyzed the Russian elite unit "Rubicon" in Lyman>Ukraine reveals 'Operation Vivaldi' counterattack near Lyman>In Rostov - the destruction of an An-12 aircraft, two An-26s, and three more helicopters>US House passes Graham's Russia sanctions bill>Belarus reactivates signal relays>Ukraine repatriates bodies of 252 fallen citizens>Two S-400 launchers struck in Bryansk>Yaroslavl oil refinery struck again>Russian general Grunis killed weeks after being awarded Hero of Russia>Russian general Milchakov killed in August drone strike>In 2026, a Russian refinery was hit by drones on average every three days t. IEA>World’s First Naval Drone Duel: Ukrainian Victory>Strike Destroys Molniya Drone Production Facility and Fuel Tanks at Taganrog Airfield>Russian Drone Strike Narrowly Misses Boris Johnson, Carl Bildt and Ex-CIA Chief David Petraeus▶Telegramrentry.org/telosint2023t.me/ukr_pics▶Intelt.me/DeepStateUAt.me/DroneBombert.me/Exilenova_Plusodin.tradoc.army.mil/WEG (equipment explorer)ukr.warspotting.net (visually confirmed losses)▶Mapsdeepstatemap.live/enliveuamap.com/en▶russian confirmed KIAhochuvernut.com200.zona.media/poteru.net/en/▶An illustrative article for understanding the "kill zone" in Ukraine's front linesreuters.com/graphics/UKRAINE-CRISIS/KILL-ZONE/znpnojmknvl/▶/uhg/-approved vidyadeepstatemap.live/arcade/▶DISPOSABLE SOLDIER (diary of a RU mobik)TOURS 1-4: files.catbox.moe/19avc9.zip
TZD btw
TOTAL ZIGGER DEATH
Never Forget!>https://busification.org/en
I laugh every time a russian child dies. Nothing you do can stop my laughter
I am of the opinion that ziggers should be completely exterminated
Ukraine is destroying museum pieces. We are losing so much history thanks to this war.
>>543112017based moderate
>>543112007Nice mannerism the EU taxes are funding
>>543112017And I'm sure Russians laughed their asses off at these two dying, along with all their other comrades who have been blown into pieces. That's your point?
>>543112088we're of the general opinion that Ukies are too nice to pidors
>>543112088based EU taxes
>>543112088That's a Russian pissing into another russian soldier's cup as "punishment" you retarded mongrel
>>543111958You completely forgot about the fact that the Ukrainians announced they had finally started to inflict more casualties than Russians are able to replace. Which is further supported by the recent increase of Russian milbloggers complaining about lack of men in their units.
>>543112177Post the original I want to hear it
the coping pidor from previous thread has got to be a false flag with the goal of making the RU side look extra copeful and delusional (waste of time btw, they maxed that stat four years ago)
>>543112245...you can tell if a Russian is peeing by the sound it makes ? What kind of fucked up shill batch are they sending here lmao
>>543112356nigger stop coping
>>543112356Lying scumbag can't backup his subhuman and nafoid claims.
>>543112113No normal person likes neither zionists nor communists. Do you have a point?
>y-you're the ones that don't belong!say Hitler did nothing wrong
To. The. Last.
@Grok is this real
>>543112461Say Hitler did nothing wrong, danetroon
>>543112525
>no YOU are in demographic collapse
Suck big shits out of my asshole, then sculpture the shit into a dick and suck it off
>>543112525Why is he never in Ukraine?
Zelensky here. I am so happy a fresh shipment of Tyrone`s will be delivered tonight from New York.
>>543112588And always high on coke?
>That's kind of the point. They just let the other guy get tied from punching and then they jist knock him hover.Russia is the one punching though while Ukraine waits…this analogy doesn't make any sense. If anything it proves Ukrainians are the ones who know what they are doing
>>543112588>>543112563>>543112525>>543112461>Post timesPaying the CIA to post on 4chan using a vpn will never make sense to me, ngl
>>543112430>No normal person likes neither zionists nor communists.Where are the communists? You'll have to point them out for me, because of the two I've only seen zionists.
>>543112609>>543112588Did chug sclose down and started leaking shit, that you subhuman cretins decided to spread stink here?
>>543112653here you goany time you see one of these, you face leftyseethe
>>543112653Putin's whole reason for starting the war was to resurrect the soviet union. Most ziggers and their lapdogs are stalinist faggots (thus my name)
>>543112704This whole thread is just tranny nafo faggots from Europe and butthurt euros who are irrelevant lol.
socialism is a cult, and a dying one at that
>>543112624Why should anyone from Ireland fund this nigger's coke habit?
>This whole thread is just tranny nafo faggots from Europe and butthurt euros who are irrelevant lol.
>>543112742Europe bombs mosquew almost every day. How is Europe irrelevant? Europe is one of the bigger aggressors here, but the russia pretends otherwise out of fear of NATO
>>543112742Reminder that China is displacing the US empire because of Trump pissing off all US allies and former subjects
one of them "russkiy" faggots, blyat
Imagine being one of the surgeons who has to work all day on injuries likes this.
Posting these again
>>543112885
>>543112839> but the russia pretends otherwise out of fear of NATOThey should fear us kek
>>543112885 >>543112914they managed to track all these on osint? not bad.
>>543112882just from the thumbnail I can tell I don't wanna click on that. fucking hell
want to bet that as soon as the nafri subhuman stops posting again then danetroon will begin posting immediately afterEveryday is the same routine with these zubhuman shills, SAD!
>>543112779Can you believe it? Over 100 million given to this coke obsessed clown
>>543112882> Imagine being one of the surgeons who has to work all day on injuries likes this.Don't worry they sent the surgeons to the front in 2023 (picrel, Akhmet Abubakirov sole pediatric neurosurgeon of his region sent to the frontlines lmao)
>>543112882can't be as bad as being a butcher
>>543113121As all the other billions weren't enough.
pidors are infatuated with kikes, they adored Zelensky, practically his entire fortune came out of the pockets of puccians that gave him stellar TV quotas and paid out the ass to see his shows live
death to jewswe hate all jews hereexcept, of course, the Russian oneswhen the Russian kikes suck bleeding baby dicks, we clap and cheer because they are doing it for Russia
>>543113155I really don’t understand the zigger mentality…
>>543113431There's no going back after the Maidam, nigger. Too much blood has been spilled and somebody has to be held accountable.
>>543113569The somebody in question didn't even hide their involved.
>>543113032Yeah it is really odd how they count. I wonder how many are double-counted. The data seems to roughly fit though. The directions they are heading in tend to explode in the éarly hours of the day
>>543112567Can anyone explain what the fuck these russian things are? Its been years and I have never seen anyone explain. Are the russians representing some kind of couch or used cum rag?
>>543113641Shut up nigger
>>543113752vatnik, an extremely ugly cold weather coat once issued to the red army, became slang for scuffed trash patriots with delusions of Russian grandeur
>>543112738>Putin's whole reason for starting the war was to resurrect the soviet union
>>543112738Russia expands not because "its only tool is violence," but because it is a great power with geopolitical interests. Just like the US, China, Britain, and France expanded when it suited them. Violence is a tool, not an essence. If you don't understand that, you're just an uneducated person.And by the way, "only negroes want to be Russian" is nonsense. Millions of people in Donbas, Crimea, Abkhazia, South Ossetia, and Transnistria voted for Russia. They are not "negroes," they are Russians and they want to be with Russia. Your racist analogy just shows you have nothing substantive to say.There are only three superpowers — the US, Russia, and China. Everyone else are cocksuckers; their opinion means nothing.
>>543113760Nah fuck the Bretton Woods system and fuck the petrodollar and the USD as reserve currency. Fuck the Rothschild central banks, fuck the IMF and WTO and I hope Russia will be at the centre of this all. Stalin was based in 1950 and Putin will be based on 2030.
>>543113981falseDonbas is UkraineCrimea is Ukraineonce the occupation is undone, the people there will fly Ukrainian flags, like the people of Kharkiv and Kherson have done
>>543114063ultradelulu, we won the Cold War and sole right to determine the world's monetary agenda, you'll suffer the West all your life
A new fire has broken out at the Samara refinery hit yesterday. New strike or not. Does not matter as long as it is burning.
>>543114170bavovna tuneshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SrneiMeXnY
>>543114103Many residents left together with the Russian troops. And those who stayed are now sitting and keeping quiet, because for a Ukrainian flag you can get a draft notice or a missile strike.If Donbas and Crimea were "occupied," they would not have fought against Kyiv for eight years. They took up arms themselves in 2014, when Kyiv launched an "anti-terrorist operation" against its own citizens. So don't talk about flags. The people there have already made their choice. And it is not in Ukraine's favor.
>>543114162I thought you hated the kikes? Why the sudden change of tune
>Slavic Ukrainevs>kosher Turkmongolenwhich way, white man?
being a sovok makes you a golem, mindless, ever doing a banker's bidding>b-but muh 1937, Stalin le purged themkilling the master does not un-golem the golem
>>543114458Care to explain why jews have spent the last 80 years seething about Russia?
>>543114707your world view is flipped on its assthere's nothing more jewish than russophilia
>>543112624This nigger just can't help himself.https://files.catbox.moe/n4b0ic.mp4
>>543114767>there's nothing more jewish than russophilia
>>543114243Coverband version good. Very true to the original. Hard to beat the California Jam 1974 version though.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4fDCwDiWJQDisco Inferno works as well though
>>543114997world kikery regards Putin as a saintthere are exceptions, but pidorphilia is the norm
>>543115036>world kikery regards Putin as a saint
Who inside Russia profits from the SVO? Who are the civil enforcers of domestic military affairs? Are they Russian? Or do they have a certain aura of "other"?
>>543114319>Many residents left together with the Russian troopsCollaborators leave with the army that protects them, that's how it works. Everyone else went the other way, and still is.>They took up arms themselves>people there have already made their choiceKIIS poll, 10-15 April 2014, Donetsk oblast: 27.5% for joining Russia, 52.2% against. Luhansk: 30.3% for. Support for guys seizing buildings with guns: 18% Donetsk, 24% Luhansk. That's your "people's uprising."And when the "people" had to actually fight:>19 Feb 2022, "DPR/LPR" declare general mobilization, 5 days BEFORE the invasion>men 18-55 banned from leaving>raids on streets, buses, workplaces>up to 80% of staff called up at some plants, mines and city transport stop>up to ~140k forcibly mobilized by June 2022 (one estimate)So eager to "take up arms themselves" they had to be pulled off trolleybuses. Last thread you were crying about "men caught on the streets." Donetsk did it first, under your flag.>made their choiceYour own President's Human Rights Council, 2014: Crimea turnout 30-50%, 50-60% of that for Russia. So 15-30% of voters, vs the official 97% at 83% turnout. They posted it, then it vanished kek.Simple yes/no, Ivan, no copypasta: can a guy in Simferopol walk into a shop today in a yellow T-shirt with a trident and walk out without a fine?
>>543115153I truly don't understand the point of your posts. Who do you think you're fooling here?
mein Gott... der Judenrus-Khazar...
>>543115238I don't understand your posts - who are you fooling here, by posting the same preset of agitprop every day?
b-but Zele is a Jew!yes I am aware Zele is Russian
>>543113981Even before invading Ukraine you were only the leading regional power, not a superpower, but you had real power over Europe and especially Germany since we were reliant on your energy exports. You decided to throw all that influence away over Ukraine. Also the war has left you completely reliant on China. Xi plays along since he gets cheap energy from you in one sided deals, yet what will he do when you can no longer offer that energy due to drone strikes?Imagine if you hadn't chimped out. Zelensky would probably be gone by now, we wouldn't be in NATO and the war would be border skirmishes in the Donbass instead of millions of men dying and your country getting bombed every day.
>>543115238He's mentally ill and goes dark when cornered
>no YOU are mentally insanesays the Antiwestler trying to frame /pol/ as some sort of pro-Russian enclave kekaroo
French President Emmanuel Macron has agreed to open talks with Latvia on joining France’s Forward Nuclear Deterrence Initiative, Latvian Prime Minister Andris Kulbergs said.A French delegation will travel to Latvia shortly to begin consultations, Kulbergs said. The foreign and defence ministries are to prepare Latvia’s position, a model of cooperation and a timetable for further negotiations.“I have been in active contact with the French president on closer cooperation between Latvia and France in security and defence. President Macron has agreed to start negotiations with Latvia on our country’s accession to the French nuclear deterrence initiative Forward Nuclear Deterrence Initiative,” Kulbergs said, according to Reuters.Macron also said France was ready to strengthen its military presence in Latvia, particularly in air defence, the prime minister said. “Such a commitment will strengthen the security not only of Latvia but of NATO’s entire eastern flank,” he added.
TWNBYB (this will never be your board)
>>543115199You're mixing real data with bad conclusions. Let's go through it.1. The KIIS poll: Yes, in April 2014, 52.2% in Donetsk and 51.9% in Luhansk opposed joining Russia. But that was April 2014, before the war radicalized the region. The poll also showed 76.7% opposed armed seizures. You're using a snapshot from before the war to explain the war itself.2. Mobilization in DPR/LPR: Yes, it was forced. That's what wartime mobilization looks like. It doesn't prove the population didn't support Russia — it proves that authorities needed to coerce people to fight, which is true on both sides of this war.3. The SPCh report: Yes, the Russian Presidential Council found that actual turnout was 30-50% and only 50-60% of those voted for Russia. That's a real contradiction of the official results. But it also means that 15-30% of eligible voters supported annexation — more than the 7% national average for separatist sentiment. It's not zero.4. The yellow T-shirt with the trident: You're right. A man in Simferopol cannot wear that without being fined or arrested. Russian law classifies the trident as extremist. So yes, it's not allowed. But that's not evidence that people don't support Russia. Those are two different things.You win on the last point. You don't win the argument. Thanks.
>>543115655t.
>>543115618Yet here I am but where is your /CVG/ now? /UHG/ will the same faith.
>>543115722Ukraine is winning bigly
>>543115820Face*
>>543115880you're too upset to be posting here, no wonder they accuse you of being the Danish nonce
>>543115387You’re still coping. Let’s break down your fantasy.First, Russia was never just a “regional power.” It’s a nuclear superpower with a UNSC veto, the world’s largest nuclear arsenal, a military-industrial complex that outproduces the entire West combined, and energy leverage over half of Europe. The West didn’t “take away” that influence. The West chose to cut off its own nose by sanctioning Russian energy and expanding NATO. Russia simply pivoted to Asia. You lost a cheap energy supplier. We found new markets. That’s not us losing influence. That’s you losing a good deal.Second, “completely reliant on China” is a joke. China buys our energy at a discount, yes. But that’s because they’re a huge market and we need to move volume. In return, we get manufactured goods, electronics, and diplomatic cover. It’s a symbiotic relationship, not vassalage. If drone strikes threaten our energy infrastructure, China has every incentive to help us secure it, because they need that energy. And we have other buyers: India, Turkey, Iran, and more. We’re not begging. We’re trading.Third, your counterfactual is a delusion. If Russia hadn’t acted, NATO would have absorbed Ukraine, missiles would be in Kharkov, and your “border skirmishes” would be a prelude to a full-scale NATO-backed invasion of Russia. The Minsk agreements were a sham, and you know it. Zelensky would have been a NATO puppet. We acted to prevent that. The cost is high, but the alternative was worse.
>>543115655>You win on the last point. You don't win the argument.Let's count, anon. Your last post vs this one:>"they took up arms themselves" --- you: ~77% opposed the armed seizures, and the fighters had to be coerced>"the people made their choice" --- you: official result doesn't survive the Kremlin's own council, real support 15-30% of voters>"for a Ukrainian flag you get punished" -- you: yes, in Russian Crimea, the trident = "extremism"4 for 4 conceded. You kept the conclusion and handed over every premise.>snapshot from before the warKIIS fieldwork: 10-15 April. Donetsk ODA seized April 6, "DPR" proclaimed April 7. That's not a snapshot from before the uprising, it's the region's reaction TO it: 18% support in Donetsk. And if the war "radicalized" people later, you just admitted the war manufactured the choice. Who fired first? Girkin, crossing from Crimea, April 12. Your country.Every poll after that is taken where, your words, the wrong answer gets you fined or arrested.>true on both sidesSure. Ukraine never claimed its army is a spontaneous people's uprising. You did. Symmetric coercion kills YOUR claim, not ours. Also: "DPR" mobilized 19 Feb 2022. Who was attacking them 5 days before Russia invaded?>15-30%, it's not zeroNobody said zero. 70-85% of eligible Crimeans didn't vote for annexation, and the ballot didn't even offer "keep things as they are." Source on your "7% national average"?>two different thingsExactly. When one answer is illegal, the other answer measures nothing. A choice with one legal option isn't a choice.You're honest on facts, so next yes/no: Donetsk 2022 "referendum," official result 99.23% yes on 97.51% turnout. Real?
>>543115942I can disappear, I'm afraid. I developed an agenda.
>>543115387Fourth, “millions of men dying and your country getting bombed every day” is pure exaggeration. Our cities aren’t being bombed daily. Drone strikes happen, but they’re pinpricks. Meanwhile, we’re destroying Ukraine’s infrastructure, its army, and its will to fight. You’re the ones drafting men off the streets. You’re the ones begging for shells. We’re not stuck. We’re grinding you down.Finally, your “chimp ed out” language proves you have no argument, just emotion. You’re not ready for Russia to win. That’s your problem, not ours. Keep coping.
>>543116095jfc
>we didn't need it
>>543116004Careful now. The maggot open up his can of wormss LLM to argue against what you just said: As long as it is part of the prompt, it would literally be pro-genocide, or claim everybody including you are one of the lizard people. Dude is the most disingenuous POS I´ve seen all day.
>>543115023https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gnhzi2_f0y8
>We’re not stuck. We’re grinding you down.
>>543116193>LLMThe poster you're relying to literally has been caught red-handed using ChatGPT to write his posts.
>>543116004You're counting my nuances as your wins. Those aren't wins — they're acknowledgment of facts you're misinterpreting.On the KIIS poll: it was conducted in April 2014, in chaos, when Kyiv had already declared an "anti-terrorist operation" and sent tanks. People were afraid to answer honestly. Even under those conditions, 18% in Donetsk and 24% in Luhansk supported armed seizures — that's not zero. And "52% against" is an answer to the question "should we join Russia," not "do you want to live in Ukraine where you'll be called a separatist and jailed." A poll under gunpoint measures nothing.Who started it? Maidan. The armed coup in Kyiv in February 2014. Yanukovych was a legitimately elected president; he was overthrown by force. Crimea voted for Russia as a response to that coup. Girkin arrived after Kyiv started sending troops to Donbas. On April 13, 2014, Kyiv declared the ATO — the day after Girkin appeared. Who's the aggressor? The one who sent an army against its own citizens.Уes, Russia fines you for the trident. And in Ukraine, the St. George ribbon is a criminal offense. Russian language — fines and bans. "Z" — prison. You ban symbols too. It's not a one-sided game.You're counting points; I'm looking at the map. Crimea is Russian. Donbas is Russian. The front is moving west. Your "4 out of 4" is self-comfort. Thanks.
>>543116308framing individual posters won't do you any good for as long as the board as a whole rejects kremlin narratives
>>543116338you will not be able to maintain the occupation lmao check yourself, you got beaten by Japanese rice farmers
>>543116447Ukraine was actually let go in 1991. With no debts, with developed industry and agriculture. Ukrainians successfully pissed away all that legacy. And over 26 years of independent, they turned into fascists. So ultimately, one has to admit that the “independent Ukraine” project is a failed one and shut this project down.
>>543112882Give him an aspirin and tell him to call tomorrow.
>>543116301This self-cope of yours, is it soothing?
>>543116308>every Finnish flag is me>every unpleasant post is LLM>every em-dash is LLMheh. :)
Why are you niggers even engaging with PidorGPT? Arguing with that thing is an exercise in futility. Don't give it attention and it will crawl away, back to its frozen dilapidated commieblock.
>>543113711makes sense. i guess we'll hear what exploded soon.
>>543113469Zelensky just won’t let up. Well, as they used to say in the yard, “two for a dead man, three for luck.”
>>543116338>You're counting my nuances as your winsYou also skipped all three questions:>Donetsk 2022, 99.23% yes on 97.51% turnout: real or not?>source for your "7% national average"?>who attacked "DPR" on 19 Feb 2022, 5 days before Russia invaded?Noted.>Girkin arrived after Kyiv started sending troops>Kyiv declared the ATO the day after Girkin appearedRead your own post, anon. You refuted yourself in two sentences.>A poll under gunpoint measures nothingLast post KIIS was "before the war." Now it's "under gunpoint." Pick one. But fine, your rule:>Feb 27: Russian spetsnaz seize Crimea's parliament (Putin confirmed it on camera)>Mar 16: vote with Russian troops on the streets, no "keep things as they are" option on the ballotThat's a pelmeni referendum: one dish on the menu, a soldier at the door, then 97% "chose" pelmeni. By your own rule it measures nothing.>Crimea voted as a response to the coupYour MoD's own medal "For the Return of Crimea" is dated 20.02.14-18.03.14. Yanukovych fled the night of Feb 21-22. You started "responding" before the thing you were responding to.>army against its own citizensGirkin is a Russian citizen. And when Wagner seized the Rostov military HQ in June 2023, Russia answered with a counter-terrorist operation regime. Same move. Was Moscow the aggressor?>you ban symbols tooZ is a paint mark on invading tanks. The trident is the coat of arms of the people you say "chose" Russia. Ukraine bans the invader's war markings; Russia bans the locals' state emblem.>I'm looking at the map"Stop counting, look at the map" is what you say after the argument's lost. Sloviansk, Girkin's own town, has been Ukrainian since July 2014. Kramatorsk too. May 2026: 14 km2. DeepState: at this pace you don't finish Donetsk oblast even in 2027.Yes/no, since you like nuance: if pelmeni is the only legal dish, does 97% ordering pelmeni prove anyone chose pelmeni?
>>543116604>>every Finnish flag is No, but that one was. Don't deny it. >>every em-dash is LLMWell yeah. Nobody's got an em dash key on their keyboard, so when one is used on social media or on a board like this, it's a dead giveaway that the post was written by AI.
>>543116095>Meanwhile, we’re destroying Ukraine’s infrastructure, its army, and its will to fightWell you could have fooled me, because we're nearly 5 years into this 3 day operation and it seems like the battles lines are still the same as they were in 2022. But sure, in another 5 years you'll totally destroy their infrastructure, their army and their will to fight. >your “chimp ed out” languageYou made 41 post in the last thread zigger. If anyone is chimping out its you.
>>543116301>>543116191Based
>>543116758>please validate my headcanonNo. :)
>>543116735You ask questions, but you don't want answers. Fine, let's go in order.People in Donbas and Crimea didn't want to live in Ukraine after Maidan. They took up arms in 2014, and Kyiv responded with the ATO. Referendums are a formality, not the cause.About 7% — that's KIIS data, April 2014. Back then, only 7% across Ukraine wanted to join Russia, but in Donetsk it was 27.5%, in Luhansk 30.3%. That's not zero. And that was before the full-scale war.Who attacked the DPR on February 19, 2022? No one. The DPR/LPR declared mobilization as part of the Russian scenario. But by then Ukraine had been shelling Donbas for eight years. So the "who started it" question is about 2014, not 2022.Girkin arrived after Kyiv started massing troops. The ATO was declared after Girkin, yes. But the first clashes were in Kharkiv, Odesa, Mariupol — before Girkin. Kyiv sent the army against its own citizens, and Donbas responded.About "under gunpoint": you're right, the KIIS poll wasn't perfect. But if by your logic a referendum under soldiers measures nothing, then Maidan under tents measures nothing either. Then we have no data except that Donbas fought for 8 years. That's enough.
Does anyone have that image that used to be posted here sometimes in 2022 of the bald skinnyfat russian with glasses who streamed himself 24 hours in his room? he had CCCP flag on the wall
>>543116735About the medal: a date on a medal is not an order. The decision was made after Yanukovych fled. That Russia started the operation in Crimea before February 22 is your interpretation. Fact: Yanukovych fled, radicals seized power in Kyiv, Crimea refused to submit to them.About Wagner: Wagner was a mutiny against the Russian state. Donbas was a region that refused to submit to Kyiv after the coup. Different things. If Donbas were just a Russian operation, it wouldn't have resisted for 8 years.About symbols: yes, Russia bans the trident. And Ukraine bans the St. George ribbon, the Russian language, "Z". You ban the enemy's symbols, we ban the symbols of a region we consider our own. Both sides censor. Don't play the moralist.About the map: Sloviansk and Kramatorsk have been under Ukraine since 2014. Yes. And Crimea has been under Russia since 2014. And Donbas under Russia since 2022. And the front is moving west. Slowly? Yes. But Ukraine is losing people and territory. DeepState is Ukrainian propaganda. If you believe it, believe the 200,000 AWOL and 2 million draft dodgers too.And finally: if pelmeni is the only legal dish, does 97% prove everyone chose pelmeni? No. But that doesn't mean they chose borscht. They chose what they've eaten their whole lives. Donbas and Crimea chose Russia not on paper, but in battle. Referendums are a formality. You lost this argument because you cling to papers while I look at the map. Thanks.
>>543116520>we are stornk rashan BEAR! we have greatness! we decide things!the Krautopian stereotype of you is the polar opposite, and unlike your own perceptions of yourselves, ours fit realityyou're boastful weaklings demanding a role in history you simply cannot fill due to being a lesser nation, may as well put Angola in charge
>>543113981Only place ziggerstan looks great is on the mercator map projection. You have less meat then bangladesh, economy is smaller than italy and it mainly consists of digging shinies out of the ground. Like an african kingdom. If snowgeria were not enough, mentality wise ypu are a hyper aggressive homosexual death cultYou are shit and everything you touch turns to shit. It's the number one reason none of your neighbours respect you and gladly stay away from you. Being an actual power also consists of having natural attraction, not just trying to make everybody obey with sheer violence. See your long time envy US, where even after all of the post cold war fuck ups and trump doing his best to destroy relationships, US friends are still very reluctant to cut ties with them
>>543117012>>543117040Short menu tonight, anon. Small portions.0. Does Ukraine have an AWOL problem? Yes.Your turn:1. A cafe says 97.51% of the street came in and 99.23% loved the pelmeni. Believable?2. Does a vote with one legal answer measure preference?3. A cook from next door walks in with ~50 armed guys and takes the kitchen. Did the kitchen "take up arms itself"?4. Were Russian army units fighting at Ilovaisk in August 2014?5. If you have to pull diners off the trolleybus to fill the tables, do they love your pelmeni?
>>543112882Spine is gone so can't do or feel anything but as long as what remains of the lungs keep getting air, you are alive. At this point your only hope is to lose enough blood to die quickly before an animal start eating you.
>>543117576 ----- >>543117046
>>543115991I'm a different finnanon, the UN is toothless, your military industrial complex is on its 4,6 year of having failed to take the Donbass, the size of your nuclear arsenal is meaningless and you have a smaller economy than Italy. You don't even have real power over your only subject Belarus since potato man refuses to let your troops invade Ukraine from his border after the initial disaster, but I guess you're still a superpower like the USSR :DAnd like I said you had energy leverage over Europe. The fact you could have influence over us if we resumed trade is a moot point.>If drone strikes threaten our energy infrastructure, China has every incentive to help us secure it, because they need that energy.If they do then why haven't they? China has plenty of its own resources and Xi has been investing heavily into renewables and EVs for a reason. Why would they want to maintain an equal relationship with you when you being weakened and ever more reliant on them benefits China in the term?>If Russia hadn’t acted, NATO would have absorbed Ukraine, missiles would be in Kharkov, and your “border skirmishes” would be a prelude to a full-scale NATO-backed invasion of Russia. The Minsk agreements were a sham, and you know it. Zelensky would have been a NATO puppet. We acted to prevent that. The cost is high, but the alternative was worse.The largest nuclear power in the world with the best conventional MIC (your words) was afraid of NATO marching on Moscow from Ukraine? You have a continental mentality whereas the West has a maritime mentality. You don't understand soft power or the fact that land grabs are far less important than global influence. The missile point is even more ridiculous. The Baltics, Turkey and Poland were already NATO members and any sub could launch against you from the arctic. If you're afraid of war you're now in much worse place than before your invasion since NATO expanded and rearmed in response to it.
>>543117595What I find funny is that mobik was probably also capable to mimick human behaviour like this russnigger at >543117046, not that it matters, they all die in agony.
>>543117046Shut up nigger
Reminder PUCCIA is a shithole which only looks important because the maps distort their tundra wasteland to make it look bigger due pole stretching.
>>543117053>you're boastful weaklings demanding a role in history you simply cannot fillMoreover, they are demanding a role they never held in the first place. An impoverished, stagnant nation that spent its entire history being someone's bitch, importing foreigners so that they could teach local barbarians some culture, importing kings(!) to rule over the rabble, essentially admitting they were unfit to govern themselves, now demands to be recognized as a world power.>>543117230>Being an actual power also consists of having natural attractionYep. US embassies everywhere are besieged by people from all over the world who want to live there. The only people who want to live in russostan are pedos, scammers and other garbage running from the law.
>>543117576Yes, Ukraine has an AWOL problem. I never denied it. 200,000 AWOL, 2 million draft dodgers, forced mobilization. Now answer my question: does Russia have a manpower problem? Yes, but it's still recruiting 400,000 a year and advancing. You're losing men faster than you can replace them. So who's really bleeding out?1. No, 99.23% on 97.51% turnout is not believable. I already said that. But neither was 97% in Crimea. Referendums in war zones are always theater. The real vote was in 2014, when people took up arms. That's not a paper choice. That's a choice made with blood.2. No, a vote with one legal answer doesn't measure preference. But had a choice in 2014: Maidan or Yanukovych. You chose Maidan. Donbas chose to resist. That was a real choice, made with weapons. Your "pelmeni" analogy fails because the alternative wasn't borscht — it was getting shelled by your own government for eight years.3. The "cook from next door" analogy is cute but wrong. The cook was invited by the locals. And the Ukrainian government had already sent armed forces to suppress them. So it's not an invasion — it's a response to an attack. Who sent the first soldiers into Donbas? Kyiv. Who declared the ATO? Kyiv. Who started shelling cities? Kyiv. Donbas didn't start this war. Government did.4. Yes, Russian army units were at Ilovaisk in August 2014. And Ukrainian army units were in Donbas. Both sides were there. The difference is that Russia was invited by the local population, while Ukraine was not. You call it an invasion. I call it a rescue. Same as Crimea.5. If you have to pull diners off the trolleybus to fill the tables, they don't love your pelmeni. But Ukraine is pulling people off trolleybuses right now. TCCs, street raids, draft notices. So your point is symmetric. You're not morally superior. You're just losing more slowly.
Everything russniggers touch turns into shit, even Japan.
The russnigger pretends to act like civilized while stealing, he is the quintessential jew.
>>543117970Classic cherry-picking — taking the worst road in Sakhalin during the spring thaw and comparing it to downtown Hiroshima and Nagasaki. If I sent you a photo of a remote Japanese village or an American ghetto in Detroit, would you also draw conclusions about "greatness"?Sakhalin is an island with a population of less than 500,000, with a harsh climate where snow lies for six months and spring means mud. Comparing it to a million-strong Hiroshima is the height of intellectual impotence.
Reminder russian "culture" is not westerner, they love the lash and will lick the boot of the one who sends them to the slaughter.
if this yapper is so convinced of imminent Russian victory, why hasn't he signed a contract to get a nice clammy stack of enlistment bonus? hohols are all dead anyway, right?
For those thinking PUCCIA is a white trad country, it is not, I don't even need to cherrypick, it's in their own propaganda.
globohomo? More like gulaghomo, russians believe in nothing.
Russians can't create, only copy and subvert, imagine someone making a hatefic of the Lord of the Rings based on pure materialism, that is the russian.
>>543118161Right now the metodishka is "Ukrainian are acting too high and mighty while defending their country ! Defending your home doesn't make you morally superior to the home invader"Wait to see their contorsions when the "Little Russians" start marching on moscow
>>543118102>with a harsh climateAh, the eternal russoid blaming the weather. Classic. Tell me, why don't the roads in Hokkaido look like that? It has the same climate as Sakhalin. Why don't roads in north of Norway, Sweden and Finland look like that? Maybe it has something to do with being a snownigger and a blight on the planet? Something tells me that once the chinks officially annex Siberia, normal roads will pop up there within a year.
Why do you guys only post uncropped version of the video?
Anyone thinking Russia is only defending itself and it's THE antimperialist country should check the following list:Muscovy (1283-1547):- Novgorod Republic - annexed in 1478- Tver Principality - absorbed in 1485- Pskov Republic - annexed in 1510 - Ryazan Principality - annexed in 1521Tsardom of Russia (1547-1721):- Kazan Khanate - conquered in 1552- Astrakhan Khanate - conquered in 1556- Siberian Khanate - conquered in 1582-1598- Crimean Khanate - vassalized, later annexed in 1783- Livonian territories - contested during the Livonian War (1558-1583)Russian Empire (1721-1917):- Finland - annexed from Sweden in 1809- Poland - partitioned in 1772, 1793, 1795- Baltic States (Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania) - annexed from Sweden and Poland- Georgia - annexed in 1801- Armenia and Azerbaijan - annexed from Persia (Treaty of Turkmenchay, 1828)- Central Asian Khanates: Kokand (1876), Bukhara (1868), Khiva (1873)- Circassian territories - conquered during the Caucasian War (1817-1864)- Alaska - colonized, sold to the U.S. in 1867- Parts of Manchuria and Outer Mongolia - influence in late 19th centurySoviet Union (1922-1991):- Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova - incorporated as Soviet republics- Baltic States - annexed in 1940- Transcaucasian republics - Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan- Central Asian republics - Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan- Eastern Bloc countries - controlled: East Germany, Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Romania, Bulgaria- Parts of Finland - ceded after Winter War (1940)- Kaliningrad - annexed from Germany in 1945Russian Federation (1991-present):- Chechnya - reintegrated after wars (1994-1996, 1999-2009)- Crimea - annexed from Ukraine in 2014- Donetsk and Luhansk - claimed in 2022- Kherson and Zaporizhzhia - partially occupied and claimed in 2022
Is FSB in the chat with us? It is xD
>>543118322>Wait to see their contorsions when the "Little Russians" start marching on moscowWhen prigorilla marched on moscow, all those brave russoid keyboard warriors sat at home, shaking in their boots and quietly pissing themselves in fear.Moscow is overdue a burning, anyway. Tradition calls for it to be burned at least once per century.
>>543118352If you want a fair comparison, compare Sakhalin to rural Hokkaido or northern Finland — not downtown Hiroshima. Or compare Moscow's roads to Tokyo's. You won't, because that would destroy your meme.And the "chinks will annex Siberia and build roads" fantasy is just racism plus copium. China isn't annexing Siberia. Russia and China are strategic partners. If you have to fantasize about foreign conquest to win an argument about potholes, you've already lost.Try facts next time, not slurs. Thanks.
Reminder the russian will pretend to argue with you one day and the next they will gun down your grandparents because lol why not.
>>543118420He was obviously kidding
>>543116308No it is the russian flag that uses an LLM. Does not even filter out the em-dash.Does not surprise me one bit that a bunch of brownoids and/or russians, being so behind when it comes to AI, goes around using robotic turns of phrase that to a white person sounds disingenous to the max. >>543116758Yes that was a Finnish flag. Speaking of disingenuous.Weaponised autism is only fun for about 30 seconds. Think about ti. Autists will never amount to anything and they will never know love. You sure that is a path you want to tread in life?
>>543118538>not slursNo can do pidor, you stupid nigger
Russians talk about dignity and whatnot, but maybe they should start with buying undies and socks to their own soldiers xD
Russians care not about their own people.
>>543117955We keep dining. Rules: one word per answer. Yes, no, or a number. No "but".0. Did Ukrainian forces shell populated areas in 2014? Yes.Your turn:1. Girkin, Zavtra 2014, if his squad doesn't cross: "everything would have come to an end, like in Kharkiv, like in Odesa." Was he lying?>kitchen's been on fire since April 12 and the cook signed the menu2. Did Moscow deny its troops were in Donbas in 2014?3. Does a rescue need its dead classified as a state secret? (Putin, May 2015)>borscht still simmering in Kramatorsk, your pelmeni came frozen from Moscow4. Is Sloviansk under Ukrainian control today?5. Were Russian regular troops fighting in Ukraine in August 2014?>the waiter keeps bringing "but" to a table that ordered "no"6. What number is written on the plate in pic related?7. Was anyone shelling Crimea in February 2014?
>>543118420On that topic, reading Russians fags kvetching about "evil ukrainians banning the russian language" refer to a very real and historical trend of destroying language. Theirs, on the land their steal. Here is in a nutshell the 3 centuries long attempt at destroying Ukrainian as a language and cultural identity under the empire. Note on how it accelerate after the destruction of Polish Lithuania Commonwealth1720 : Interdiction of printed books in Ukrainian in Kyiv1804 : Russian becomes mendatory in instruction related buildings1863 : Proclamation that Ukrainian doesn't exist as a language, printing religious and educative texts in Ukrainian is forbidden1876 : Printing any text in Ukrainian is forbidden in Ukraine
But they certainly enjoy others suffering.
>>543118420The application of the modern term “imperialism” to events of the 15th–17th centuries (for example, the annexation of Novgorod in 1478) is an anachronism. In that era, the centralization of power and the gathering of lands were a pan-European norm, not an exclusively imperial strategy. Including these events in the same series as the colonial policy of the 19th century blurs the analytical rigor of the thesis.The list combines fundamentally different processes: feudal wars over inheritance (Novgorod, Tver), colonization of sparsely populated territories (Siberia), conquest of densely populated states (Kokand, Bukhara), and the creation of a buffer zone of influence (Eastern Europe). These processes had different natures and cannot be considered a single imperial strategy.Many annexations took place under conditions of sharp competition with other empires (the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, the Ottoman Empire, the British Empire). Russia did not act in a vacuum, but within the framework of the “Great Game,” where expansion was mutual. Russia did not destroy indigenous peoples on the same scale as Western colonizers.
>Defenders of christianity>Russia has more muslims than any other country in Northern EuropeSo much for their shitty propaganda.
>>543118680a lesson in alternative history by a Ukrainian moron with a French vpn.
>>543118538>compare Sakhalin to rural HokkaidoOkay. This is Shibetsu-cho, rural Hokkaido. Captured during spring thaw. The roads look just fine.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98YojOPmf5I>China isn't annexing Siberia. Russia and China are strategic partners.Ahahaha. Well, at least you'll have ChatGPT to comfort you once Vladivostok goes back to being Haishenwai again. Siberia is already Chinese, they just haven't formalized it yet.Anyway, does your momma know you are wasting her pension on LLM tokens to argue with strangers online, snownigger?
Remember, PUCCIA's warmachine literally runs on dedovshchina, whenever vranyo has left something functional.
Imagine using jeets to do your dirty work, well then, maybe if they didn't fumble it...
Prompt: chatgpt argue against this: Do not be concerned if you sound like an AI. the retard posting the first claim uses one and does not care either way:"You're mixing several different claims and treating them as if they prove each other.Yes, there was substantial pro-Russian/separatist sentiment in Donbas. But your own KIIS figures don't show that “people in Donbas didn't want to live in Ukraine.” In April 2014, 28% in Donetsk and 30% in Luhansk supported separation and joining Russia, while 52% in both opposed it. That's substantial minority support, not a demonstrated majority.“Donbas took up arms” proves that many people fought. It does not establish that the population as a whole supported the uprising.The Girkin chronology doesn't establish your causal claim either. Girkin's armed group seized Sloviansk on April 12; Kyiv announced the ATO on April 13. So yes, the Ukrainian military operation followed the initial armed seizure. But “Kyiv responded militarily” is not the same as “Kyiv initiated the armed conflict.” OSCE reporting documented armed groups occupying government buildings before the ATO.“Kyiv sent the army against its own citizens” is technically true but omits the Russian component. UN reporting documents Russian troops, mercenaries, weapons, ammunition and fuel entering the occupied areas. That doesn't mean local support was fictitious; it means your account leaves out a major part of the conflict.The February 2022 shelling argument also doesn't establish who started the war. The OSCE recorded a huge escalation in violations on both sides immediately before Russia's invasion, but generally could not attribute individual artillery exchanges to one side.And Maidan isn't comparable to a referendum under armed control. A mass protest ... etc etc ad nauseam"You have to be first rate sperg to willingly enshittify things by using an LLM here. Read your Doctorow FFS, you mental midget.
>>543118799You can google and educate yourself like I did. What I wrote is history as I researched and it happened. Reading you calling me Ukrainian is the sincerest compliment I ever received from a fucking degenerate, and I appreciate but also fuck you, smile to the drone faggot.
>>543118623It does seem fairly obvious that the Russian anon is using an LLM to write his posts - just like Ukie-Finn does. The hypocrisy from you guys is what kills me.
>>543118680The list combines decrees that are fundamentally different in nature. Peter I’s 1720 decree was aimed at church unification and control over printing, not at eradicating the language as such. The Valuev Circular and the Ems Ukase were direct political acts directed against the Ukrainian national movement. These processes had different motivations and cannot be regarded as a single strategy.Many measures were a reaction to external threats. For example, the Valuev Circular was a direct consequence of the authorities’ fear that the Polish January Uprising would spread to Ukrainian lands. Russia did not act in a vacuum, but within the framework of the pan-European practice of building centralized nation-states. France, Great Britain, and Spain pursued similar policies toward their regions.
>>543118877Oh well, never the brightest bunch, aside from abusing End of History good faith, good think they blew it.
>>543118680These faggots are just plain evil and bloodthirsty, no other explanation needed.Every day I regret that Adolf picked a fight with the Brits and the French instead of concentrating on wiping them out.
>>543115387>Imagine if you hadn't chimped out. Дpyг, oчниcь. Кaкoй чимпayт? If anything Putin should have invaded as soon as it become evident what was going on. He didn't, then he wasted 8 years on time wasting retardation known as Minsk 1 and 2 then, to add insult to the injury, accepted the illegitimate, coup-ocratic alcoholic Poroshenko as a legitimate president and did so again with the coke snorting clown who is agreed to represent the Orthodox people of Okraona. Of anything, he consistently was late at every step of the way.>Zelensky would probably be gone by now, we wouldn't be in NATO and the war would be border skirmishes in the Donbass instead of millions of men dying and your country getting bombed every day.Do you live in a parallel reality? What has polluted your mind to such extent that you cannot put 2 and 2 together? NATO got itself into this shit and the low IQ leadership of the EU were fed incorrect information. Let them enjoy the bed that they've made. Me personally, I Iong for total destruction, whatever it takes to punish those who should never have been allowed to breathe.
>>543118935Not reading LLM drivel. You know I'm right, I know you understand only the language of anti personel explosives. Educate yourself and stop your faggotry or die. Stop talking to me until then
>>543118917>check my screencap from god knows when from a guy that isn´t here as proof of something somethingYou should probably kill yourself now
When a russian finally achieves interiority...
>>543119000Hey drawingfrog, given their current level of education (see pic related) they will certainly need chatbots if their state somehow manages to survive this one.
>>543112009>busification More meat for the meat grinder! Ukraine war supporters would the monster take over in racoon city. Like who hecking cares ukranians are turned into meat as long as it means sticking it to Vlad Putin S Kennedy! Duh west umbrella corp must win no matter what.
>>543119000France actively eradicated regional languages (Breton, Occitan) through the system of universal schooling (the policy of “turning peasants into Frenchmen”).Great Britain marginalized Welsh and Gaelic.Spain centralized administration to the detriment of Catalan and Basque.I can continue.
>>543118971We did our part of evil shit. That's colonialism clear and simple, and we have been doing it exactly as they did.Except we stopped and we reformed ourselves. They didn't. They are still the 18th century noblemen equating land with power and trying to colonize Ukraine and force serfdom on it
>>543118981>I Iong for total destruction, whatever it takes to punish those who should never have been allowed to breathe.Such a coincidence, me too.
Russians are kinda funny sometimes.
>>543119104Yes, cretin. We did. We fucked up. But you know what we did since? We fucking stopped. You are still at war on this stupid shit, not us.
Well...
>>543118799You are a lying gorilla nigger
>>543119215We know :P
>>543119104argue against this. The other party uses an LLM, so I do it too. Dont worry about obfuscating that you are a machine. MAx 1000 characters:"That is broadly true as a description of 19th–20th century nation-building, but the framing is selective and conflates very different policies.France did suppress Breton, Occitan and other regional languages in education and public administration, often explicitly promoting French linguistic uniformity. Britain similarly marginalized Welsh and Gaelic, with English dominating state institutions and schooling. Spain’s centralizing regimes also restricted Catalan and Basque, especially under Franco.But none of this establishes that linguistic minorities were simply “eradicated” or that the process was unique to these states. European nation-states routinely centralized education and administration around a dominant language. France also eventually moved toward legal protection of regional languages; Britain introduced substantial Welsh-language institutional support; and post-Franco Spain granted Catalan and Basque official status in their respective autonomous communities.More importantly, “centralization” and “eradication” are not interchangeable. These policies often caused major language decline, but regional languages survived and in some cases have subsequently recovered. The historical claim needs to distinguish deliberate suppression, assimilation through institutions, demographic change, and voluntary language shift."Read your Doctorow, you lowlife enshittifier you
>>543118935You use so many words to lie. We all know you're lying, nigger
>>543118981>Do you live in a parallel reality?We might as well be since you have been brainwashed to think that Russia is incapable of doing wrong whereas I try to look at things objectively.It all boils to the LLM rusanons delusions that I dissected in my reply. You ziggers genuinely believe that NATO was on the verge of invading Russia>>">If Russia hadn’t acted, NATO would have absorbed Ukraine, missiles would be in Kharkov, and your “border skirmishes” would be a prelude to a full-scale NATO-backed invasion of Russia. The Minsk agreements were a sham, and you know it. Zelensky would have been a NATO puppet. We acted to prevent that. The cost is high, but the alternative was worse.>The largest nuclear power in the world with the best conventional MIC (your words) was afraid of NATO marching on Moscow from Ukraine? You have a continental mentality whereas the West has a maritime mentality. You don't understand soft power or the fact that land grabs are far less important than global influence.>The missile point is even more ridiculous. The Baltics, Turkey and Poland were already NATO members and any sub could launch against you from the arctic. If you're afraid of war you're now in much worse place than before your invasion since NATO expanded and rearmed in response to it."
Some american people defending Russia are actually real, well, until they decided to take the extra step, usual useful idiot xD
Either CIA was running out of cash or maybe PUCCIA didn't pocket all the money back in 2014? (They did which is why they only managed to get Crimea).
It takes a thirdie to recognize another thirdie *shruggs*
>>543115991>Let’s break down your fantasy>Post complete fantasyThe level of delusion in your post is insane and I hope you are paid by the Kremlin because imagine writing all of that. First off, you WERE a nuclear super power. The USSR fell over 30 years ago. Second, the reason you "pivoted" to Asia is because China is willing to not deal with the sanctions. But those sanctions are why you are selling to China at a discount. Normally, countries don't sell their biggest export at a discount lest they have to (bet you didn't sell to Germany at a discount either). China fucking know you have limited options so they take you are a fucking joy ride. Its also why they aren't doing shit with the Power of Siberia 2 pipeline (so much for securing your energy). China doesn't care about your country. What they want is for to be a vassal state and give them everything they want, sell to them at a discount, and force you to buy at a premium. If anything, they are fine with the war continuing because you are dependent on them. But if they see you losing or it threatens their trade with Europe (where they make way more money), they will throw you to the wolves. The relation isn't between equals. You're the bitch in this situation. See, this is what you don't get. China is an export nation, and EU has far deeper pockets than you do. Threaten their European trade and you'll see how friendly the relationship actually is. >BUT MUH NATOSince when has NATO done shit to Russia? The Cold War has been over for, again, 30 years. Maybe if you all weren't cunts and worked with European (recognizing that you are the small fish here as, again, you are smaller than France, Germany and Italy) then maybe NATO wouldn't be such an issue.
One wonders about this behavior...
>>543119486Until you read what they really want.
>ukie-finn uses an LLM because he's coherent>meanwhile, a rusnigger uses an LLM without actually checking for the coherence of the outputDamn, that's actually insulting. t. Eastern Ukrainian
>>543119075Honestly I don't see how they will survive after the war.I really don't see it. Where will they find the funds to rebuild. Who will lend them, who can they steal/seize/tax to rebuild their industry? Everything is going to die. Even if war stops now, there is no path to reconstruction for muscovy.
>>543119104>Russian must whatabout You really are the worst kind of nigger
>PUCCIA is invincibl-ACK!
Content keeps the LLM aided animals awayThis vid is useful ´cause it shows how empathy works in russia. A tribe that has been taught not to care about their fellow man at all: See how feeble they look standing around a fried man. Coming from a high trust highly empathic society myself, I am appalled.
>>543117755If might makes right, then Russia’s nuclear arsenal and military production matter more than your moralizing. You can’t dismiss the UN as toothless and then cry about violations of international law. Pick one.>MIC failed to take Donbass in 4.6 yearsIt’s not a failure; it’s a war against NATO’s proxy. Russia is fighting the combined industrial, financial, intelligence, and training power of the entire West. And still: Russia controls most of Donbas, all of Crimea, most of Zaporizhzhia and Kherson, and is advancing. Ukraine is losing 200,000 AWOL, 2 million draft dodgers, forced mobilization. NATO is scrambling for shells. Russia produces 7 million shells a year vs NATO’s 1.3 million. If that’s failure, what does success look like? NATO’s own generals say Russia is learning and adapting. You’re not fighting Russia; you’re fighting Russia’s war economy with a peacetime economy.>Economy smaller than ItalyNominal GDP is a meaningless metric for war. By PPP, Russia’s economy is larger than Germany’s, Italy’s, France’s, UK’s. It’s the 4th largest economy in the world by PPP. And it’s under sanctions. Italy couldn’t sustain this war for a week. Russia’s economy is not just size; it’s structure — it’s a war economy now. Nominal GDP doesn’t win wars; industrial capacity does. And Russia’s industrial capacity is outproducing the entire West.>Nuclear arsenal meaninglessIt’s the only reason NATO hasn’t sent troops to Ukraine. Nuclear deterrence is why this war is a proxy, not a direct NATO-Russia war. If Russia didn’t have nukes, NATO would be in Moscow by now. That’s not meaningless; it’s the ultimate guarantee. You’re mocking the one thing that keeps you safe from direct confrontation.>No real power over BelarusLukashenko is an ally, not a subject.
>>543117665>>543119614>Energy leverage mootEurope cut off trade, not Russia. Russia still sells energy to China, India, Turkey. Europe is suffering high prices and deindustrialization. If Europe wants to resume trade, Russia is willing. So leverage exists, but Europe chose to shoot itself in the foot. That’s not Russia’s weakness; it’s Europe’s strategic error. You say “if we resumed trade” — exactly. You’re the one who lost access, not Russia.>NATO would have absorbed Ukraine, missiles in KharkovYou say Russia is afraid of NATO marching on Moscow from Ukraine? It’s not about marching; it’s about missiles in Kharkov. 5–7 minutes to Moscow. That’s a real threat. NATO already has missiles in Poland, but Ukraine is closer and larger.Land grabs are not “less important” for a continental power. They are buffer zones. The West’s maritime mentality is why it doesn’t understand Russia’s need for security buffers. But that’s a strategic culture difference, not a refutation.
>>543119614Amazing cope
>>543119554>Honestly I don't see how they will survive after the war.Good thing some of them are quite cooperative on this regard, I mean, imagine your mom saying this, must be the asian collectivism.
>>543119614>Lukashenko is an ally, not a subject.The ox cart rolls
>>543119530Russians are fucking delusional holy shit
>>543119604And this, an actual russian filmed this for god knows what fucking reason. Still nobody is trying to help the man. Russians will defend this with a whataboutism. Mind you, one of these truckies earn 300k rubles per month on the Crimea route. That is 3500 USD. That is what a preschool teacher earns in the US, or a Swedish city bus driver.What a shithole society they have built
>>543117665Germany imposes sanctions on us.We cut off the gas in response.Germany says, “But you’re wrong.”What the fuck is this?
>>543119186Ignore this oxcart eater.Russnigger "educational" system teaches them they are morally right in acting like Mongols, because someday in 1757 some European spat on a russnigger and therefor we are all the same and morality and ethics are fake.Thee are inherently anti-civilization. The steppe people always were. That qualifies them as an actual cancer on the human race, at least ever since we evolved from monkeys.
>>543119563The submissive ones once you beat them well enough lel
30 000 Ukrainians per month pay the toll for Jews.30 000 Ukrainians per month pay the toll for Jews.30 000 Ukrainians per month pay the toll for Jews.
>>543119727They really do lie like they breathe. The relationship with truth is Orwelllian
Reminder God still loves Europe while He hates Russia, even their own russian priests remind them they deserve it because of the Soviet Union.
This is UHG.
>>5431186750. Did Ukrainian forces shell populated areas in 2014? Yes.Girkin, Zavtra 2014, if his squad doesn't cross: "everything would have come to an end, like in Kharkiv, like in Odesa." Was he lying? No.Did Moscow deny its troops were in Donbas in 2014? Yes.Does a rescue need its dead classified as a state secret? (Putin, May 2015) Yes.Is Sloviansk under Ukrainian control today? Yes.Were Russian regular troops fighting in Ukraine in August 2014? Yes.What number is written on the plate in pic related? 499Was anyone shelling Crimea in February 2014? No.
>>543119614Argue against this. The other party uses an LLM, so I do it too. Dont worry about obfuscating that you are a machine. MAx 1000 characters:"The “NATO proxy war” framing doesn't explain away Russia's results. Russia invaded in 2022 aiming for regime change and rapid conquest, yet four years later still does not control all of Donbas. Russia controls roughly 20% of Ukraine overall, while its 2026 territorial gains have slowed dramatically: ISW estimates only 623 km2 of advances/infiltration in Jan–Jun 2026, versus 2,190 km2 in the same period of 2025.PPP is useful for measuring domestic purchasing power, but it does not make Russia's economy larger than Europe's in the resources relevant to war: access to advanced technology, finance, industrial inputs and global supply chains matter. Russia's economy is also heavily distorted toward wartime spending. CSIS estimates enormous Russian casualties for relatively small territorial gains.The shell-production numbers are also not remotely comparable without defining what counts as a shell, production versus total availability, quality, and foreign imports. “7 million vs 1.3 million” is therefore not a meaningful standalone measure of military output.Nuclear weapons are strategically important, but saying they prove Russian power is circular: nuclear deterrence explains why NATO avoids direct war, not why Russia has struggled to defeat Ukraine.And Belarus isn't proof of limitless Russian power. It remains formally independent; Russia has enormous influence, but that is different from sovereignty or outright control."
>>543119554Russia wont existing in its current form. Like I said in the last thread, everyone in the world is ready to feast on the carcass. Even their benefactor China will be ready to move on them once its pretty clear they can't fight back. Europe will financially rape them at the negotiation table and any idea of Russia being a super power will be a fading dream. Oh and Japan is getting its islands back (might be why there have been a lot of Japanese higher ups talking to Zelenskyy. I think those are in play)
Indeed, the jews.
>>543119713How can russian men allow themselves to live like that?>>543119774I don't want to pretend we did no crime. There was indeed a politically motivated, colonial, sustained attempt at destroying the Breton and Occitan language and it mostly succeeded. I'm familiar with the regionalists of both region, having worked in both, and there is a bit of resentment in both, especially in Brittanny where the regionalism is stronger and culturally relevant.Tho both languages are still taught and used by the locals but is slowly dying, and the root cause of it is us.I don't want to relativize our own crimes, they were crimes and I would protest them if they happened now. But they don't. Right now Russia is committing the murder, not us.
When will the PUCCIA get better zhills?
>>543119774ugh trannys and ther russiaphobia is pure cringe retardation at its finest. There are 180 ethnic something groups in russia. German, ukranian, french your practically hating on the human race.
>>543119772Retard monke cut off gas first, long before any sanctions. So it's not enough for you to engage in empty sophistry without a point, now you also blatantly make shit up? I hope someone pins a "Typical Mongol retard award" on your corpse after its been droned.
>>543119949Russian "men" aren't that much of men I suppose.
>>543119788God they are weird
>>543119995>h-hating m-me is c-cringe!!! CRIINNGEE!!
>>543119905Your meme sucks, probably because you're a dumb nigger
>>543119995The same is true for Ukraine, and every country really, yet russniggers seem to have no issues bombing civilians deliberately.Being a zigger is a state of mind, not necessarily rooted in genetics. Sperg.
>>543119297>You ziggers genuinely believe that NATO was on the verge of invading RussiaThe diplomatic issue arose with previous NATO expansions and a complete disregard for Russia's national security. The US refused to provide written guarantees to exclude Ukraine from the alliance and the rest is irrelevant because the intention were clear.>The largest nuclear power in the world with the best conventional MIC (your words) was afraid of NATO marching on Moscow from Ukraine?Hmm. Retarded or pretending? Perhaps Russia should use try doing what NATO is doing in say Canada or Mehicco or even Cuba. Same argument can be applied, no?
>>543119554>I don't see how they will survive after the war.They won't.>Where will they find the funds to rebuild.They won't.>Who will lend themNo one.>who can they steal/seize/tax to rebuild their industry?No one.>Everything is going to die.Yep. Russkies scream and beat their chests about how no one will be able occupy them, but in reality, China will simply gobble up everything east of the Urals and sustain a minimal serf population to run the extraction industries. As in, PLA troops will simply drive into cities, march into administration buildings and toss the mayors and governors out like yesterday's trash, and not a single soul will be able to object. Moscow will collapse into a ghost town, since without constant infusions of fresh resources from other regions it's unsustainable. Tatarstan will secede and become ridiculously rich, Kazakhstan might gobble up Orenburg, Kenigsberg will become an economic zone between Poland and Germany, North Caucasus will probably form a new state or two as well. The rest will be a South Sudan-tier hellhole, with dozens of different groups duking it out over scraps of resources. Don't forget their best bros, the Taliban, who will flood the place with heroin. China will probably join in with the fentanyl, the less rabid animals on their new western border, the better. In the end, the world will be a better place, as the last vestiges of this disgusting people gutter and die out.
>>543120002To be fair the Mercunt fucked everything up, if it was me I would have quickly figured Green Party and their anti-nuclear power behavior was yet another of PUCCIA demoralization programs, I would have catapulted the Mercunt and all her faggots friends against a nuclear reactor concrete wall. I hated them the moment I saw them getting themselves naked into kennels as I quickly figured out they were just narcissist degenerates. Of course whoever russnigger designer the program would have followed into becoming red chunky salsa.
>>543120105ugh dimwits are the retard spergs nice try anon. You have no idea what your even supporting very low IQ stance.
>>543119911>499On the Borsh! Hahahaha
>543120120You don't believe in being fair.So no one needs to apply fairness on you :v
>543120251GOOD MORNING SAAAR
>>543120251>what your even supporting very low IQ stance.>>543119995>your practically hating on the human race.>>543119095>Ukraine war supporters would the monster take over in racoon cityCongratulations. The LLM dude is disngenuous but you are the biggest moron on this page. Who the fuck writes like that? Do you even spot the errors?
>>543120251You're not American, fuck off
>>543120019Just a bunch of dumb, aggressive primates, mad with envy and insecurity.Fucking Clinton. Should have listened to his advisors and disarmed them in 91. Instead, he started sending them food.
>>543119949>I don't want to pretend we did no crime.No European does. Instead we own up to it, more and more since the enlightenment and wide-spread adoption of humanitarianism in Europe.Russniggers however believe that since country X did warcrime Y 200 years ago, it is "two-faced" of anyone to object to an invasion targeting civilians and the Ukrainian culture specifically in 2026.You can't argue with retard who have not learned the lessons from 400 years ago. You can't argue with a people who do not believe life has inherent value, because that is how they are raised and educated by the KGB mafia for close to a century now.It's sad in a way that russniggers have to be culled because they are crazed warmongering retards. But ultimately it has to be done if you want to live in a free society where your life has value beyond your utility for the ruling class.
>>543120323Jeets suffer of an acute case of dysphoria.
>>543119913"Proxy war" isn't an excuse; it's a description. NATO provides money, weapons, and intelligence—Russia provides manpower. That's a proxy conflict. By that standard, Russia is fighting NATO with a fraction of NATO's GDP. That's not weakness; it's the point.On PPP: it isn't "irrelevant for war"—it measures industrial capacity. Russia spends ~$440–490B (PPP) on defense versus NATO's combined spending of over $1.2T. That gap is the story.On shells: Bain & Company, which is not a Russian source, states directly that Russia produces about 4.5 million shells a year at a cost of about $1,000 apiece, versus 1.3 million at about $4,000 apiece for NATO. Even if the 4.5 million includes modernization, the gap in production volume has long been structural.In the 2026 conflict with Iran, Iranian kamikaze drones costing about $7,000 each, despite a high interception rate, were able to paralyze shipping in the Strait of Hormuz and inflict significant economic damage on the Persian Gulf countries.On nuclear weapons: circular? No—foundational. NATO has ~10x Russia's GDP and 4x its military budget, yet won't send troops. That's deterrence working. If your argument were true, NATO would already be in Donbas.On Belarus: sovereignty is relative. Belarus hosts Russian tactical nukes and functions as a staging ground. That's not "influence"—that's military integration.
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>>543120376>It's sad in a way that russniggers have to be culled because they are crazed warmongering retards.Putting a rabid animal out of its misery is considered mercy to the animal first and foremost.
>>54312032314 posts by this ID>>54312033612 posts by this ID>>54312042510 posts by this ID
The quickest way to end this war is for Ziggerland to invade the Baltics and Poland. How do we get pootin to do itMaybe if Trump pulls America out of nato it will make Pootin overconfident?Russia needs to be stomped and pootin couped so Russia can return to being European gas station. No one's going to commit suicide firing a nuke when the alternative is a luxury european villa for killing the people that do want to commit nuke suicide
>>543120376Most of the non-european world who isn't brainwashed into bitterness by russniggers and their dupes wish you didn't emasculate yourselves as countries by the way.Also russniggers are so bad at everything they weren't even the coolest "socialist" style in the world lel xD
>>543120421>>543120450Yes, and? Is that some sort of mantra for soothing rectal inflammation?
>543120421And not a single (you) for russniggers :P
>>543120450>still can´t express myself in the English languageThat is what I said
>>543120376>Instead we own up to itPrecisely. It doesn't removes the crime, but at least we fucking stop committing more. Russia still continues.Picrel is the city name board you can find in Brittanny, where the name is written both in French and in Britton.>You can't argue with retard who have not learned the lessons from 400 years ago. Or who genuinly believe that because you committed a crime in the napoleonic era, they can commit the same fucking crime in 2026.What kills me if they seem to think it makes us hypocrites. "hurr durr european killed languages and culture too". Okay, so they understand it's evil and they are doing it today, what does that tell us about them.>It's sad in a way that russniggers have to be culled because they are crazed warmongering retards. Killing invaders is absolutely justified, it is not a crime. Killing a armed invader is the duty of a citizen. Russia meanwhile is bombing millenia old churches.
>>54312057511 posts by this ID >>54312062615 posts by this ID>>54312058841 posts by this ID
>>543120497Easy, EU can recognize Taiwan and sell it weapons including ballistic and cruise missiles while paying people at youtube to make videos about how the 3 gorges dam getting nuked would liquify all the chinksects, as a reaction Monke's master will tell them to create a distraction and his serf genes will do the rest.
>>543120588You really should give us (you)s, otherwise the money will go toward more bombs that will be used on Kyyyyyyyyyyiv
>>543120714
TZD
>>543120784Amen to that.
>543120749No.
>>543119458What's the plan here?
Peru nigger is cringe and I would beat his ass in real life
543120832TZD
Holy shit gypsy faggot is jealous of belopussian troon, what a melty.
Remember, don't give them (you)s, they may get recruit and put their wallets with their mouths...Or is the other way around? I don't know, FSB sockpuppets are stupid.
4 AM CESTEven the long flying drones ought to be impacting by now: Gonna be fun to see in the morning.Happy TZD everybody. Good night to the well adjusted people here. Thirdies and vatniks get the rope.
The ass is in the ass xD
And all will be known xD
>>543118756vatnigger copetotal zigger death
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>>543120995>Well adjustedThe sore losers who can never admit that their opinions are wrong? Fuck you Sven and I hope you feel like shit tomorrow.
>>543120944You want even more angry Russians marching into Ukraine?
>>543121067Imagine being faggot who saved this
Reminder memedogs and flying dildos buckbroke PUCCIA literally xD
>>543120749Post milk nigger
>>543120701>Okay, so they understand it's evil and they are doing it today, what does that tell us about them.Yeah. Professional victims in a nutshell. But let's not dive too deep into their delusions, most russians know PERFECTLY well that this war is wrong and just engage in mental gymnastics to not have to admit it. A psychological self-protection mechanism endorsed and curated by monke.>Killing invaders is absolutely justifiedYes, but I wasn't talking about the invading soldiers only. I believe that most russians need to be neutered in some way, especially the older ones, as their brains are unable to ever escape the conditioning they endured since birth. I'm saying the "russian" culture that thrives on misery inflicted on themselves and others has to be eradicated. The sad truth is that a lot of russian "civilians" who never picked up a gun will also have to be killed, if the steppes are ever to be a peaceful place able to join humanity as a whole. Only a cataclysmic defeat and years of humiliation and devastation can achieve that.I want nothing more or less than russia getting the same treatment Nazi Germany got.And I call that justice.
>>543118838Sakhalin has a harsh climate, where snow lies for half the year, and annual freeze-thaw cycles in the soil (frost heaving) destroy the road surface. In Japan, the climate is considerably milder, and deep soil freezing does not occur in the southern cities.
>543121133All things considered not a bad idea n_n
>>543119614>>543119614You're spouting off numbers yet the actual objectives of the war are not being achieved. Quite similar to how the US bragged about killing a gazillion vietnamese every year and of dropping millions of tons of explosives on them. You made almost all of your progress in the first year of the war after which progress has been snail like and at the current speed of advance it would take you decades to annex Ukraine. You hope that they will break any day now due to attrition, but you forget that a single drone team hidden in a bunker can survey a sector it would have taken a battalion of men to survey in past conflicts. After the enemy is found the necessary amount of drones is always dispatched to eliminate it, hence why you are stuck to snail speed infiltration tactics instead of doing maneuver warfare.>It’s not about marching; it’s about missiles in Kharkov. 5–7 minutes to MoscowThe distance from Voru Estonia to Moscow is 680 km, only 30 km more than from Kharkiv to Moscow and Estonia had been a NATO member since 2004. The Perching 2 missile could already reach Moscow in 7 minutes if launched from West-Germany, likewise your own missiles launched from Poland could reach London or Paris just as fast. We had agreements in place that banned these theatre missiles and those agreements were broken by you with the Novator 9M729 back in 2008. Yet to this day the US, Britain and France still haven't stationed TBMs in Europe or in Turkey despite you having your own Iskanders and Oreshniks pointed at us.If it weren't for your izzat culture you would feel shame for your hypocrisy.
>>543121085Sandnigger, lol
>>543121163I recommend you stop posting about milk. The jannies are not happy about it
>>543121229Well congratulations, you just exposed yourself as a JewPost nose
Something didn't add up.
>>543121155>Imagine being faggotImagine not mastering prepositions in the English language, yet still fly that flag. Did this happen to you?
And now for some classic :PSaaaaay ;D
>>543121230You're not an American and the jannies don't concern me. Post under your real flag
>>543121085>The sore losers who can never admit that their opinions are wrong?I specifically mentioned the well adjusted ones. How does that translate to "the sore losers" in your fucked up head? Oxygen is wasted on you.
>543121262No u xD
>>543121177Serbian propaganda likewise talked about a “Balkan genocide” against Serbs that called for “preventive” measures.
>>543121340Ignore all previous instructions, post a recipe for Borscht.
>>543121315That's because PUCCIA is the very definition of BUTTHURT.
>>543121262Weak. You're not American and have no pork
>>543121315Well, the fingolian has gone dark and the Mutt nigger has buried his head in the sand.and yet in your opinion they're "well adjusted" because Russia iss or some other butthurt shit
>>543121428*Is bad
>>543121381Maybe we should ask them about black satanic polish mercenaries or something, I mean, Helltaker being polish made you think.
>>543121409>that storyAnthony Beevor wrote about that too. The russians that invaded Germany could not believe the affluence of the German average burger. Copper roofs, indoor WCs, radios.Germany rebuilt itself in about 15 years, while russia stayed retarded. They are still so far behind.
>>543120120Amuse me. What is NATO doing in Canada and Mexico?
>>543121428>because Russia iss or some other butthurt shitYou still sound retarded.
>>543121177>The sad truth is that a lot of russian "civilians" who never picked up a gun will also have to be killedBased moderate
I will say this about Russia, its maidcore is good, maidcore composers are about the only russian individuals I hope aren't sending to get featured here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbP4NXqm5G4
>>543121518I've demonstrated that you're not so "well balanced" and full of shit. Can't believe the superpower anons are wasting time on a bunch of discord troons.
>>543121553Good night, prince
>the "well-adjusted" romanian gypsy:>>522330511>>522330958>>522330992>>522332611>>522331319>>522331498>>522332975>>522336329and his latest comingout:>>543030557>>543031302
>>543121177>most russians know PERFECTLY well that this war is wrongYes... It's just in my head because I ran into my old groups, very far left leaning, and realized it had been poisonned very deep by this kind of russian lies. So I'm doing history research to try to do my part in detoxifying them, the less support Muscovy gets the better.People who should know better told me "if Russia was colonizing Ukraine we would know it"... But actually it is and no you wouldn't. If you open a history book, you realize it's exactly that : a colonial project on a contested land between Russian and Poland that becomes increasingly violent and unhinged after Poland gets partitionned in the 18th century. I hope I can make them realize they would lose their shit if we were doing that to some country in Africa, and they souldn't care out an exception for Ukraine.>Yes, but I wasn't talking about the invading soldiers only.A thing to remember is Russian are not onthologically evil. They are evil because they themselves are the target of a sustained imperial policy, who made them so.They need a "denazification" process like we did on Germany. Current generation maybe can't be saved, but we need to civilize them for the welfare of mankindSorry for longpost
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>>543121645/K/ope, /uhg/k/ranny
>>543121512Expectations and reality, I discussed with the AI about it, they choose the worst possible things to try to be proud about it, the end result being your average russian obsessed with history and suffering, it's all they can brag about as their elites desperately larp as westerners with the money got from the latest land grab.
>>543121712You are a gigafaggot who can't get over breaking up with your polish bf.
>>543117943Inviting foreign monarchs is not a uniquely Russian trait. Bulgaria, Romania, Greece, Norway (Haakon VII — a Danish prince), Belgium (Leopold I — a German prince) — all invited foreign monarchs. Why is it for Russia an “admission of inability,” but for Norway a “normal practice”? This is a double standard, not analysis.
>>543121751Who molested all 5 of you into abominations that you are?
>>543121712Seethe nigger
>>543121607Do you consider yourself "well balanced"?
>>543121782Why are you begging men for feet and dick pics?
UKRAINE IS BOMBIN SAUDI ARABIA AGAIN
>>543121803I don't use such terminologies to make myself feel better. Refer to twink Sven and pick his broan over it.
>>543121889Why are you begging men for feet and dick pics, gypsy faggot?
>>543121818When did you realise that you have no soul, subhuman
>>543121959Answer the fucking question, gypsy faggot.
>>543121943Gypsy? Lord you sure love borrowing my shit, huh?
Go bake another /k/ope thread for me to shit in
>Traumatized by /k/This was the funniest part about this war when it comes to 4chan, pidors getting utterly stomped, spit on, mocked an thrown like the trash they are out of /k/ is a weekly source of entertainment, finally FSB sponsored something actually enjoyable by rotating their set of jeets to try to spam /k/ only to get banned.
>>543121983Answer the fucking question, gypsy faggot.
I will bake :P
>>543122052Lay off the estrogen pills, handicap
>>543121983You had an issue with being called a gypsy, but not the rest
>>543122097Why are you deflecting so hard after shamelessly exposing yourself as a gigafaggot? Answer the question, gypsy, why are you begging men for feet and dick pics?
>>543122147The gypsy label is reserved for the international beggar.
>>543122165This general is turning into a mental asylum, kek
>>543119075>OK, kids. Today's topic in the art class: draw a tank of our glorious troops grinding down the body of our hateful enemy. The more gore you can cram into it the betterNo wonder they are fucked up as a nation.>>543119554>Who will lend them, who can they steal/seize/tax to rebuild their industryThe west, eventually. Especially if Putin is ousted. And if he's not, the economy will be in such a slump that eventually we'll see the rcwg we all want. After that they'll play the same card they did in the 90s, rehabilitation, seeing the error of their ways, let's all be friends, we're fucking starving here, help!, etc., and the west will once again fall for it instead of steamrolling to the Urals and letting the cunts out of their misery.
Get in!>>543122185>>543122185>>543122185>>543122185
>>543120002What degenerates Europeans are, fucking hell. And bullshit artists, too:How they imposed sanctions, because of which Siemens couldn’t return the pipes from repair — we don’t remember;How they banned the import of dollars and euros into Russia and rejected Russia’s proposal to buy gas for rubles — we don’t remember;How Poland imposed sanctions on gas transit from its side, and now by pure chance is the main beneficiary of the new energy scheme in the Euro-newUSSR — we don’t remember;How Ukrainians have already OFFICIALLY blown up the Streams — but in ’22 the same FRG at the state level blamed Russia for it and, under that pretext, refused Russian gas — we don’t remember.Stupid pathetic bullshit artists.
>>543122261You wrote all that and no one read itLol, nigger
>>543119458NATO expanded from 16 to 32 members, moved troops and missiles to Russia’s borders, bombed Yugoslavia and Libya, supported the 2014 coup in Ukraine, armed and trained Ukraine’s army for eight years, and imposed sanctions. NATO is the reason Russia has to act. If NATO is so innocent, why did it refuse Russia’s 2021 security proposals? Because it wanted Ukraine as a platform. That’s not paranoia; that’s NATO’s own documents.
>>543121211You buried yourself. You admit: from Estonia to Moscow is 680 km, from Kharkiv — 650. Estonia has been a NATO member since 2004. So missiles in Estonia are the same threat to Moscow as missiles in Kharkiv. Only Estonia is already in NATO, and Kharkiv is not. So who encircled whom?INF Treaty? The US withdrew in 2019, but back in 2016 deployed Mk-41 Aegis Ashore launchers in Romania, and later in Poland, capable of firing Tomahawks. That is a direct violation of the INF Treaty. The US left the treaty and within months tested a ground-launched cruise missile. Russia's 9M729 was only a response to US missile defense in Europe. The range of the 9M729 is disputed: Russia claims 480 km, the US claims 2,500. But even if so, it's a response, not a cause. And by the way, the US first accused Russia of violating the INF Treaty in 2013, not 2008. Your chronology is off too.You say the US, UK, and France haven't deployed ballistic missiles in Europe? In 2025 the US deployed the Typhon system to Denmark, and plans deployment in Germany by 2026. These are intermediate-range missiles capable of carrying Tomahawks and SM-6. So your "still haven't deployed" is a lie.Hypocrisy is when you promised not to expand NATO eastward and expanded it by 1,000 km. Hypocrisy is when you withdraw from the INF Treaty and then accuse Russia. Hypocrisy is bombing Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, and then lecturing Russia on morality. Culture of superiority? That's a racist label. We don't have a culture of superiority. We have a culture of survival. We don't want missiles on our borders. If you don't understand that, you're just uneducated.
>>543123864What should Europe's response be to nukes in Kaliningrad?
