The US is on the verge of economic collapse. As in like full on losing the game of Civilization style collapse.
>>543210286Thats the one thing obvious to me, republicans never played civ. To be fair civ is hard.
>>543210286oh no some random graph moved from 4.98% to 5.1%america will collapse in le two weeks
>>543210286There shouldn't be a dash in "straight-line" because that construction in this context implies you're using it as an adjective or an adverb, when it's clearly intended to be used as a noun
>chud in his moms basement on 4chins knows more about the best economists in the world and speaks in spooky cryptic language Cringe
>>543210286>0.12% change>this is it, it's over>oil price goes up 4.25%>this is not ityou're looking at the wrong things retard
Can you explain why?>Spoiler: no you cant
>>543210286whenever i go to the grocery store to buy a snack i think: "this may be my last chance to enjoy a snack" if god should strike me down before i get one last snack in, oh well, i have had snacks all my life. still, you gotta reach for just one more..
>>543210286And thats a good thing
>>543210286Accelerate
>>543210286As a wizard, my divination when I saw this chart was that it means low faith in the US as a superpower.
>>543210286Based! Fuck muttiggers.
>>543210569bond yields go up when people aren't buying them. the 10 year bond yield going up means that the world is losing faith that the US govt will last long enough to pay them across 10 years. ie a 1 yr bond yield spiking isn't a huge deal, but a >10yr bond is because it outlasts any possible administration. the entire herd is being doubted, not just a single party
You should be prepared or start now.Preferably be ready for the post Trump USA
>>543210488That's like a trillion dollar difference
>>543210286Verge = 2 weeks On the cusp = 2 weeksImminent = 2 weeks
>>543210286>2 more weeks
>>543210286sounds like a problem for boomers and rich white people
So two more weeks?The chinks must be desperate to be spamming this "no u" bullshit lol.
Green line go up is a good thing. Don’t be a panican
>>543210569Line go up bad
Nothing ever happens. Invest in tech stonks because they will grow it outpace this.
>>543210488Yield is pretty important in the economy especially the stock market economy of the USThe US is a fraudulent state, its stock market is fake and it’s the only thing propping up its “superpower” status.Someone like Elon just has to say he wants go to mars ( he can’t make functional rockets) or put a brainchip in your brain and they ll pump him up to a trillion dollars. They all feed of the lie, It needs to end, we need better systems and we need to stop thinking it’s up to anyone else but the young and willing
>>543210569USA gov spending is 40% of the fucking economy. Bonds getting to high means the government can't spend as much, and in fact will have to raise taxes. The higher yield go the more drastic the the economic shock is, and plunges the country into a recession. Right now the gov has a blind fold and is spending like crazy, but the music always stops eventually.
>>543210286As long as Israel is safe I don't care if civilization collapses. Send Me.
>>543210286>we are effected so its a problem nowWe told you.
>>543210932Always with the antisemitism
nothing is going to happen, there is no "big implosion" with high yieldsthey slowly bleed it dry as more and more of your budget gets used to pay off interestthey may collapse a country, but it's slow. years, decades even can pass before you finally run out of market trust, run out of lenders. then you collapse.
>>543211035The US is and is likely to remain “the least dirty shirt.” What are the options? Europe? Lmao
>>543210895Tech stocks are fraudulent and have caused this bubble Tesla Space xAnthropicOpen AIWill all be famous for lying so much and this era will be marked by the grifting cult like ceos
>>543210569Can you comprehend the explanation?
>>543210286nigger
>>543210286the civ games sort of suck for the precise reason your civ never collapses so its sort of unrealistic. its line always go up game
>>543210286This is just the curve of my erection. Don't panic, just bite the pillow.
>>543210286MORE FUCKING INDIANS
>>543210569>you can't explain thatbasedbro
>>543210874Wait a minute...
>>543211082Amazon trades at 20x p/e. Walmart trades at 30x. Really makes me think
>>5432110352007 was the last time we had these yields 2008 financial crisis But this time the AI bubble has bet way more capital and it probably won’t deliver even 1/4 of the return.We will probably make laws regulating investments and how stocks get evaluated after this once in a century crash that happened around the same time 100 years ago
But remember, jiggers first.
>>54321103510 years passed since trump was elected. The collapse has already started long ago.
>>543210947Just stopping giving money to Isreal. There, I fixed the national budget
>>543210488I don't think you know what this means
>>543211082You're doomering still despite tech doing like 300-400% per year. You could have got in, got rich, and got out to retire with hoards of precious metals and guns.Honestly the best bet is full singularity. That's why we're getting city-sized data centers which will not be completed for years. The system cannot fail because the money always comes out of the printer and the proverbial bankman's keystrokes always produces another zero at the end of an account balance.Inflation is bad for wage earners because they often renegotiate infrequently.
>>543210708Fair enough.
>>543211229Unlike AI companies, Amazon and Sharmart have revenues.
>>543211075South east Asia The Singapore model is the most successful human model World investors are shifting to brics and gold No one will trust the US again once this crash happens So many people from government , media and business pumped these lies and bubble.America is going to collapse, sometimes I think that’s the whole purpose of Trump
>>543210286Not really. The dollar is still the strongest currency. Every other world currency is in worse shape, which means foreign banks will have to keep buying US Treasuries to keep their own shit in check, keeping the yields under control. And if there is a correction in the stock market, yields will fall as well as bonds become the better option. This stuff is complicated.
>>543210286Get a job op.
>>543211398Amazon is both and actually had a use case for its “AI,” namely selling people shit they don’t need. Have you tried Walmart’s website? It’s bad.>>543211407You mean like Macao and Hong Kong? Remind us what happened with them.
>>543210286oh my fucking godSELL EVERYTHING NOW
At this very moment, Trump has started groveling at Xi to stahp releasing free open-source AI around the world.China wants AI everywhere, to vastly increase the efficiency of it's manufacturing capacity.America wants AI to be the magic Genie that figures out even better Jewish tricks to conjure funbucks.Guess who's gonna get what they want from it?
>>543210569It's the cost of loans and our economy is based on debt
>>543210286I don't care, nothing will happen.
But I was told Republicans were good for the economy?
>>543211516Walmart doesn't need to be internet geniuses, they've supplanted most of the grocery, clothing, hardware and everything else stores in vast areas of the United States. To them, online is just a means to order shit and drive to the pick up area so wagies can load it.
>>543210286Two weeks doomer faggot
>>543211640Republicans borrow to give rich people tax exemptions and wage long wars for Greatest and Second Greatest ally. That's been their plan since your grandparents were children.Nothing has changed.Eisenhower was the last decent Republican.
>>543211370I’m in the market bro, I rode that wave with nvidia, bloom energy, micron etc I live and breathe this stuff.At some point dude p/e matters, people will ask to see the return on investment AI is not what they say it is, it’s just new software and we are very very far away from superintelligence ( if even possible) All these guys are going to do now, is rug pull some retail investors with the IPO , try and shift the losses to the public or even ask for a bailout ( because we must beat China!) Market cycles are real and as a Canadian I would get into some tsx etfs like VDY or XEQT to stabilize yourself through this crash Always keep buying, dca and don’t marry stocks or countries like modern day USA
>>543211516>Have you tried Walmart’s website? It’s bad.it really is very unoptimized for being a global conglomerate. targets is shit too
>>543210488When youre talking about trillions of dollars, a .01 difference is already millions
>>543210286>straight line up>0.185%I'll have the nothing burger with a side of slight slow down in growth prediction please
>>543210286Bonds have been kept at artificially low rates for years.
>>543210481No it’s not. You just need to understand the mechanics and stick to a clear strategy.
>>543211774.01 of a trillion is 10 billion you know.
>>543210932>stop thinking it’s up to anyone else but the young and willingthis. jews CANNOT have a say or be part of the new system
>>543211741what is the next micron
>>543211640I was told migroids were good for the economy
>>543211516No I mean like Singapore Capitalism with a very strong state apparatus regulating it Focus on education Affordability That’s what works the best
>>543210286This is all part of the plan. Things are proceeding exactly as Trump has foreseen. Just wait to see what happens,in two weeks.
>>54321056940 trillion x 5.125% is over 2 trillion dollars in interest payments per year. Buy silver.
>>543211886Would you chose a guy who bankrupts casinos to manage your personal finances?Because 10's of millions of dumbfucks did.
>>543210947>in fact will have to raise taxesanything but cutting down the massive bureaucracyI guess it's the same in every nation, kekour ministry of work is like 8bn over budget this year, but they also waste 40% of their whole budget on "administration"anyone who'd simply deal with all the fucking parasites could reduce our deficits in a year and start repaying loans without much of an issue
>>543210286Don't worry, our spaceship is due at Alpha Centauri within two weeks and then we'll win.
>>543211995>anything but cutting down the massive bureaucracyDOGE and Trump's pathological hatred of legal oversight and corruption monitoring have already gutted our bureaucracy, and so everything is slower/doesn't work AND is somehow 7% more costly. Probably because the cronies are pocketing taxpayer money like Lutnick.
>>543211723migger suicide
>>543210488Won't stop at 5.1% that's the problem it will keep going up in the long term from now on.In essence soaring bond yields translate to stronger dollar which in turn drives more selling of bonds.It's a never ending loop.
>>543211943Would you choose the people who personally go bankrupt in casinos to manage your finances?Because tens of millions of libtards did
>>543210932He does make functional rockets. Puts the chinks to shame. Plenty to bitch about without lying.
>>543210286The boomers you hate survived much more expensive debt than you've ever seen.
>>543211229Do they pay dividends?
>>543212158The National Debt in 1980 was $900 billion dollars.That's it.
Trade truce with China announced, crash cancelled. Everything fine now, MAGA. Seethe trannies
>>543211868Super hard to predict man, in my opinion. Right now you should be looking and researching companies that aren’t in AI. Are doing very well, have a low p/e and are just being ignored in the current hype cycle.Everyone is different and has a different risk tolerance But a place to maybe start looking Are retail giants like Nike or Aritzia Software companies like SOFI or Salesforce And resource companies like Oil, or gold mining companies Your best bet is to dca and keep cash on the side for the upcoming crash Good luck
>>543212158THE NATIONAL DEBT AND PRIVATE DEBT MARKETS WERE MUCH SMALLER WHEN THOSE RATES WERE THAT HIGH. PRICES ON EVERYTHING WERE ALSO MUCH LOWER. I HATE YOU DISINGENUOUS BOOMER COCKSUCKERS WHO COMPLETELY IGNORE THE CONTEXT OF INTEREST RATES. USA HAS $40 TRILLION IN DEBT YOU DUMB ASS NIGGER. KYS.
>>543211824I think you are thinking of Risk... it is not the same as Civ.
>>543212233>TruceTrump capitulated to China last year. I can only imagine what he had to offer to get Xi's boot off his neck.
>>543210947Well time to cut the military, cut the aid, and cut the welfare
>>543212207Verizon has a P/E ratio of 10 and is paying dividends at 5.9% yieldsWhy the fuck would I put money into a bond that drives more inflation?
>>543211014Had we been more anti-Semitic, this would not be happening now.
What does graph mean? Why is it happening? Who is to blame?
>>543210488before every single economic collapse, debt crisis or event of hyperinflation, there was a retard like this being loudly and confidently wrong
>>543212155I’m not lying lol, Elon has lied about everything, he is not going to mars lol, he doesn’t sell that many cars There isn’t a tunnel connecting LA to Vegas right now When will the music stop?, this guy has outlasted all logic
>>543212374> cut the aid, and cut the welfareCuts are already kicking in in 2027>cut the militaryNot even in your lifetime.
>>543212225No shit. Because nobody would loan the fucking government money. That's WHY yields went that high.
>>543212158They could still buy houses, cars, and had white communtiesCry me a fucking river, I hope social security dies soon
>>543211901Singapore is a near totalitarian society as its the cross roads of vast trading routes, if it wasn't it would have been bought out by capitalists wholly instead of being its own country. The only thing capitalist about their system is how they extract capital from those trade routes while keeping external controls to a minimum by force instead of our shit tier jew system.Education is purely to service their trade route access and secure their balance of power, a bunch of ditch diggers don't have much political power or means to resist world powers in playing the great game.Affordability..... holy shit, you've never been to singapore. This is like saying earning 250k a year is poor.Singapore would succeed from the point of economists even if they only had one port and everything else was a bunch of rice farmers. The amount of money flooding thru their region means even a single half percentage of extraction makes their elites richer than half the nations on earth. That is how trade works.
i've lost count how many times i've heard people proclaim collapse is around the corner. can remember it as far back as 2012. nothing ever happens. best you'll get is a slow decade-by-decade terminal decline that you won't even notice on a day to day basis.
>>543210488This. Fuck this boomer astrology
>>543210481>>543212310Civ is easy and is just 4x but with some hidden mechanics (less hidden mechanics than most other 4x)Risk is hard because if you're actually good at the game all the shitters dogpile you.
>>543212445Maybe the government shouldn't function as an infinite debt-trap loop?Just throwing that out there.
>>543210286OMG INVESTORS WILL ACTUALLY MAKE A RETURN ON US TREASURIES SOUND THE TRUMPETS
>>543210771Money isnt even real, just push restart button.
>>543210286I'm just gonna say it.Users should be banned for posting shit like this.Stop. Giving. Me. Hope.
>>543212471Higher interest rate makes it easier for someone who is working for living to buy a house.
>>543212554Thank god someone is finally thinking about the generationally wealthy investors!Reagan bless you, Anon.
>>543210286Yeah the line looks really bad or really good when you zoom in on it to a half a day period.
>>543212395I was referring to Amazon and Wal Mart not the bonds.
>>543210488fr these uncs be looking at graphs LMAO where’s the foidslop thread@
>>543212474They build crazy amounts of housing for their people and let people partake in systems that make getting your first home much easier It’s affordable compared to the west, it doesn’t just have good education it has the best.Number 1 in almost every category.Its leaders were visionaries who made good choices for its people Something we are really sucking at currently
>>543212438Yes you are. Falcon is by orders of magnitude the most successful launch platform ever built.
>>543210286TO THE MOON MIGGERS! TO THE MOOOOON!!!!!!!!!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3OzHBEcymw
>>543212597It also helps to have more purchasing power and less filthy immigrants
>>543212597Not if prices don't go down retard.
So what yield % means shit has hit the fan? 20%? 30%?
>>5432127505 lol
>>543212621OMG THE MARKET WILL ACTUALLY DICTATE HOW MUCH ZOGMERICA CAN SPEND ON ISRAEL
>>543211311The collapse started in September 2019, when the minimum holding requirements for banks were lifted.
>>543210611>IM AN OBESE RETARDriveting
>>543212776>OMG THE MARKET WILL ACTUALLY DICTATE HOW MUCH ZOGMERICA CAN SPEND ON ISRAELNow you are just being naive.
>>543211741>t. master of the universe award winner
>>543210286>imaginary number go brrrrrrrt>look, goy, imaginary number go big is goo- I mean bad this time!Fuck you and your red and green lines going up and down. I'm on a grind whether your shit is red green blue purple yellow up down sideways roundabout... there's no end to the ride.
idk what you mean by this OP. miggers are too retarded to understand compounding interest rates. even though they teach this in like middle school
>>543212729Higher interest rates makes the prices go down. It directly pushes speculators away from realestate and into the bond market.
>>543211278>>543210286
>>543210552>the best economists in le world!holy shit you're a fucking retard, guaranteed triple vaxxed and boosted because you suck the balls of any perceived authority you're told to suck. "economists" don't know what the fuck they're doing and this is proven every fucking day by anyone paying attention.
>>543210481Civ AI is useless without mods, and even with mods, its just a matter of how do you choose to win. Even on Diety.
IT MOVED 0.1%AAAAAAAAATHE NUMBERS WHAT DO THEY MEAN??I HATE THE DEMIURGEI HATE THE ANTICHRIST
>>543212158Debt to gdp was 30s% range in the 80s, now it's 120%+https://www.us-debt-clock.com/data/debt-to-gdp
>>543210286>0.13% increase
>>543212986I seriously hope you weren't implying this was a good sign in the run up to 2008.also, the Debt was a relatively modest 8 Trillion in 2006.
>>543210286Between 10-11pm last night the line was VERTICAL on the speculative markets. ITS OVER
>>543210488>>543210569>>543210788>>543211439Judging by the seething eglin niggers I'd say this is a pretty big deal
>>543210488Migger kike lovers are fucking stupid
>>543211723Fuck. At first I thought that was real. Fucking AI
>>543212985See, you're thinking rationally, but jews control the entire economy and real estate market. They won't let prices go down. They will simply take properties off the market, empty homes that nobody can touch to restrict supply.
>>543210286Oh yeah another "collapse" I'll see you in the trenches of WW3 that won't happen either before we're all burned to death by "El Nino" or whatever.
>>543213237Vast vast majority of American housing market (and the global housing market for that matter) are controlled by families that control 1-2 homes. This thread and you ARE the jews fighting the interest rates normalizing the housing market.
>>543213204ever occur to you that they might be normal niggers who are seething at yet more blue ball sign tapping when nothing ever happens?
>>543213261murder hornets are gonna gitcha first
>>543213137If one thing goes off the rails now we're fugged beyond 2008 levels is what I'm saying
>>543213375>shoehorns in sign tapping memeJfc you guys suck at this. No wonder you lost to goat herders kek
>>543212158Impressive... now compare cost of living and median income values.
>>543213237Niggers like you blaming Jews and shit, fuck you with that cuck mentality, fucking learn basic economics nigger
Total Amerogolem Death!!!
>>543212488>i've lost count how many times i've heard people proclaim collapse is around the corner. cHave you ever considered that your soundbite-attention-span timeframe isn't a meaningful timeframe to predict anything on? If I predicted collapse in 2 weeks, what good would that even do? Wouldn't be so much a prediction as it would be just the first declaration of what was readily apparent to all.Collapse will happen within the next 20 or 30 years. And likely much sooner (1-5 years). Everyone knows it. Everyone's trying to pretend it won't, while we strain ourselves mentally wondering if we can even cobble together a personal escape hatch.
>>543214019what if 4chang isn't around in 20-30 years to remind the collapse is 2 weeks away
>>543213922Prices aren't going down you worthless SEA monkey. Get back to making me some cheap disposable shit for subsistence wages.
>>543211723Really needs to be made into a commercial between coke and mentos>>543212421If you don't have millions of dollars and anything it doesn't matter. Don't let doomer and prepper faggots tell u otherwise
>>543212158>>543213677hmmm, well, a big mac was 85 cents in 1983, and its 6.22 cents today, so i can only assume the minimum wage is 7.32 times higher, right? minimum wage back then was 3.35, so that must mean todays minimum wage is 24.52so thats right, right? the minimum wage in america today is 24.52?
>>543210488But but but the scary line is MOOOOOVING!!!
i lost a game of Civ 4 like this as the mongolians. legit redpilled me on the dangers of the fed.
>>543214264>so thats right, right? the minimum wage in america today is 24.52?Yeah... something like that. Close enough.
>>543214069I dont expect this website or the internet as we know it to survive the 2030s without everything being censored to Hell.Anyone who knows already should have prepared or should seriously start preparing NOW
>>543210286i agree that this is cause for concern, but this alarmist language paires conspicuously with the choice to have such a scale on the vertical axis.
>>543214264...we exported and imported the inflation.Those jeets and Mexicans working for $7 an hour specifically were meant to offset that.The issue with raising the minimum wage is that will just accelerate it...or so they claim. I don't claim this to be absolute truth but if everyone makes $80,000 a year then prices for everything would just rise to make that level a poverty level. I think a combined approach has to be taken to this and starts with congress stop printing money
>>543210569>trust disintegrating in US gov & US economy is a major signal for risk appetite and overall feeling of stability (which are necessary conditions for consistent growth)>US has record debt that is getting rapidly more expensive to service as it's re-issued>unwillingness to curb spending for multiple decades pushing US toward liekly austerity measures that we've seen be major issues elsewhere
How do I profit from this? And by profit, I mean lose less than everyone else.
>>543210488If you have 10k cc debt yeah it's no big deal. once you owe 40 trillion it's a big deal>Fastest-Growing Expense: Net interest payments have already topped $1 trillion annually, making interest a larger line item than defense or Medicai>Maturing Debt Rollover: As older, low-rate bonds expire, the Treasury must replace them at current market rates near 5%, locking in higher annual outlayAnd it's only going to go up because why would anyone want our debt that we can't pay because the interest is high? It's a self licking lollipop.
>>543214864The fact the min wage is still that low shows a lot of problems. Wage already shot up £3 in the span of like, 3 years here. Should be $10 across the board over there since I swear americans have been bitching about that amount for 10 years.
>>543214739eh it's just I don't wanna live in brimstone nigger hell nor do I want to live in the future that comes after that
>>543210286Yes this is what the jews do to their vassals, Trump and his pals have been looting the treasury for some time now. Enjoy your collapse mutts, nobody in history has ever deserved it more.
>>543210286Trump is getting the spanking his daddy should have given him.He needs to back off promising to borrow 1.2 trillion dollars only to give it away. When I say back off, I mean pic related.Bond traders don't find that kind of thing funny amongst people that owe 40 trillion already.
>>543214864>but if everyone makes $80,000 a year then prices for everything would just risethis is your brain on false class consciousnessyou cant see the forest if you cant see the relation between rich and poorraise the wages of the poor, retain (or better yet: lower) the wages/wealth of the rich
>>543210569You are paying extra trillions to refinance your debt
>>543210286This graph doesn't matter at all.
>>543214963The most likely future scenario is that the government debases the USD to ease their debt burden. Therefore, you can bet against the USD and the odds are in your favor. Another, but much less likely scenario, is that government healthcare spending is gutted to make room for interest payments in the budget
>>543214864well, if you work backwards, 80,000 today, with inflation and all that, would apparently be 20 grand in 1983which according to the census, was what the median family home was making in 1983, so basically, the median was infact, making "80 grand" in 1983.
>>543215228did you actually watch that entire series? what do you like about it?
>>543210286Nothing burger
>>543215362>>543215532Lols
>>543213237The last time house prices seriously softened here the government initiated a massive programme of "housing market restructuring" basically compulsory purchase ordered ("eminent domain" I think this is called in the US) and demolished as much as they could get their hands.Houses have risen from x3 average earnings to x8.2 since.This was under the guise of "slum clearance" which people remembered post-war but instead of replacing slums with upgraded cheap housing it was just "luxury flats" (tiny, no storage space, not designed for human habitation) for Saudi investors.
>>543212986Big difference from then to now is that government debt was less than 1/4 of what it is now.
>>543215407oh, the big beautiful bill is working on that, they are cutting about a trillion dollars for medicaid over the next 10 years, and likely to knock off about 12 to 16 million americans off of it as well, depending on who you ask. luckily, these wont hit until after the midterms.
>>543212158america is so fucking dysgenicimagine trying to explain to some mutt that having a scenario of 10% interest on his credit card while on 1mil debt is worse than having a scenario of 20% interest while on 20k debtand the mongrel is struggling to understand you because comparing more than 2 numbers is too much multitasking>but 10% is lower than 20%?>how can my interest repayments be higher if the rate is lower?>you're tripping man
>>543215503For the first few series it was fun. Like most things American, and America itself, it went on too long.
>>543215532Depends on how its handled. A news reporter asked trump about the increases and if they had any plan to combat it, he responded with this>"We have many types of intervention. That's one. The ultimate intervention is our military, and if we have to use that, we will."if trump was thinking, or intending, to have the military shoot the 10 year bonds, or bond traders, is unknown.
>>543215887Our boomers are alas the same. >We had 15% interest rates for three months on a house I bought for twice my earnings!>Now shut up and borrow ten times you earnings at 7% and stop whining.This is exactly them.
>>543210932powerful post of radioactive weapons grade truth.
>>543216015I watched the first two episodes and hated it
>>543210488Why should you care right? You’re in Israel after all.
>>543216104The other thing being Mr Boomer was getting 17% pay increases at that time, which was part of the problem itself. Today you pay 7%, most people end up with below inflation settlements never mind surpassing the bank rate.>>543216159I feel the same about the first 200 years of America. Past a certain point the joke stops being funny n'est pas?
>>543212158>Jarvis, how much did 1oz of gold cost in 1982?
>>543210286>increase of .25% zoomed in to by hour adjustmentOMG ITS GONE VERTICAL
>>543212374>cut the welfarethen, would have to cull niggers, boomers and the grifters or corrupts
>>543216431Minimum wage, priced by gold in 1970, should be $100-$150/hr or higher.
>>543216653>$100-$150/hr or higher>1 hr of fucking up hamburger orders should net me 15 hamburgers or moreNah. I minimize wage was for entry positions at a steel mill, perhaps.
>>543212986So the point of this circus being that when bond prices go down, yields go up, meaning that bond prices continue to drop as no one is buying them? Rising inflation also means rising interest rates, which attempts to cool consumer spending and a rising economy, but higher bond yields can also help bring down inflation.The problem here is that this reflection of the rising bond yields historically is a huge recession signal, showing a lack of confidence in the economy. Am I grokking this Jewish sorcery yet or no?
>>543210286>2022 2023 2024>We don't have months and certainly not years!two almost three year old graph said we won't live to see the future, joever
>>543213496my money is on us all dying from winter vagina first.
>>543216300ok thats kind of odd.
>>543215269>leftoid college buzzwords with no actual economic facts or goalsleast intelligent German, please shut the fuck up when adults are talking; you are embarrassing.
>>543216784Nope its pure math and history. Hamburgers should be 15 per hour. Industrialization hasn't increased efficiency? Where do you think all the extra money goes? Jewish pockets.
>>543217166>no, just take these other buzzwords at face value
>>543210481>Republican Ron Paul voters campaign in the '08 US Presidential Election>Campaigns on nothing other than sound economic policy>Democrats too retarded to understand anything being spoken about>Democrats call him a "weird nazi" because too stupid to understand basic economics>Democrats vote for a Black guy because being black was the "real revolution" in their braindead minds>20 years later>Everything Ron Paul's people said would happen, is happening>Some dumbfuck Leftist Obama voting faggot shows up on 4chan, tells the Ron Paul crowd they're too stupid to understand the economyYou people are the dumbest fucking imbeciles in all of recorded history. Your level of retardation cannot even be properly described with the english langauge because the english langauge itself is too limited to detail and outline the type of fucking stupidty you are.
What should I invest in then? The ASX in Australia is beyond fucked
>>543217200>Industrialization hasn't increased efficiency?Your post industrial job does not provide value. That is why you are paid shit and vote for things that make it harder for people who want to produce value to do so, while whatever faggot reg capture industry that pays you peanuts laughs at you
>>543217200this one gets me all the time. how exactly has the same burger, gotten smaller, and more expensive at the same time. when did the economies of scale change to "the more you make of something, the more expensive it gets"?why have flat screen tvs gone down in price, while hamburgers have gone up? did hamburgers get more advanced than flat screen tvs?
>>543217315so because someone somewhere works at a desk, hamburgers got more expensive to make?
>>543216152>>543210932>U.S. bad!>capitalism le bad!>us young proletariat will certainly come up with a better solution because we're heckin honest gooderinos!you can smell the naive young college dumbass on these posts strong
>>543217373>hamburgers got more expensive to make?Yes.
>>543210286Gotta raise the price...Until somebody buys the stupid Jewish Grift?Who's buying Jewish-Paper-Promises?
>>543217408The site is being bombarded by these faggots in almost every thread. They've switched tactics by attempting to be more subtle to blend in as long as possible before people realize theres something off about them. This is the 5th thread today where this has occured.
>>543217211unfortunately those "buzzwords" are actual words that define a massive economic machine and real money, while>"muh class consciousness"is leftist pseudo-academic idiotspeak for wannabe commie revolutionary murderers and trannies
>>543210286tumor weeks any moment now trust the plan billions will die yea yeah yea
>>543217216Ironically the most based post ITT. The left needs to burn in hell, but the one single issue they always had correct was the corruption of wall street and our Jewish economy and it being embedded with government. Remember Occupy Wallstreet and how fast they shut that shit down and radically diverted the frame to other dumb shit like gays, racism, and culture war?Unfortunately for the left, they have the right question but their answer is literal Commienism, which is fucking retarded. If Libertarians like Paul weren't so hopelessly locked into the position of having to rely on muh freedom of the individual and believing in these idiot masses, they could just join the rest of us fascists in actually saving the country.
>>543210286How though? Winning domination, winning science, winning culture. Maybe econ victory but that's only in Civ VII
>>543210488>>543217611the memeflag kike brigade is here lmao
>>543217373where do you think the money comes from to pay that desk parasite for producing nothing of actual value?
>>543217540They remind me of good old college reddit summerfags in the days of yore, when shill raids were, ya know, still somewhat organic and even fun.
>>543210488If this chart said RMB instead of USD you'd be losing your fucking mind saying it means China is about to collapse
>>543217216Lolbertarians are just Republicans who think the billionaire tax breaks just aren't good enough.Rand is unable to keep up the same smokescreen his old man was.
>>543217345>how exactly has the same burger, gotten smaller, and more expensive at the same time. when did the economies of scale change to "the more you make of something, the more expensive it gets"?More dollars chasing fewer goods of lesser quality because the government takes money from me and lights it on fire, then prints money to hand to youWe live in an anti progress socialist shithole
>>543210481Odd, because I've played Civ since 1991 on DOS >>543205536. Did you read that from the other thread and then come over here to flip some type of narrative or something. Wow, nice .gif you have. A real banger with that face. You homos sure love making faces don't ya? Yeah, you do. When you can't win any arguments just make a stupid face, right? Nice trick that works on the low IQ SNL comedy crowd.
>>543211365it precisely means, nothind is going to happen
>>543210481Kill yourself as soon as possible
>this is unsustainableit's funny how they always say that and then nothing happens
>>543217834China just plain manipulates their numbers, Trump hasn't fired enough competent people to just make up numbers and drive us to hyperinflation.
>>543210708No it doesn’t you fucking retard. God you faggots get all your info off random internet clowns and then get confused why nothing seems to go your way.
>>543217891>Odd, because I've played Civ since 1991You aren't a party operative, you are just a fanboy and a useful tool. And still probably smarter than 90% of the party operatives.
>>543217914niggas be using boogie boards on the Kali Yuga and wonder why they aren't catching waves
>>543217920The US has been lying about it's gold holdings. It's over you have no cards and no way to rebase your currency
why is a sandnigger propaganda anti american account using the "we"
>>543217836>The Ron Paul crowd is just dumb or something, yeah... yeah thats it.Wow. What a truly riveting intellecual analysis there, kid. I am speechless and blown away by your overpowering intelligence and economic breakdown. Is the board being raided today or something? Seriously, where are these retards coming from.
>>543210481Civ is such a basic game
>>543210286> The US is on the verge of economic collapse. As in like full on losing the game of Civilization style collapse.Based. Accelerate
>>543210286From my perspective the USA has always been in collapse. This isn't some sudden event. This is a long process that began before any of us were even born. You can look at significant events in all of our lives. We suffered through the 2020 covid crash, the 2008 bailout, the 7 consecutive undeclared wars, 9/11, the earlier dot com bubble etc. You can't really point at any point in my experience and show the USA in really outstanding economic success.This is just a low point in a steadily declining depression that has lasted my entire life.
>>543210552When theyre buay having their fiat usury race to the bottom and just to empower luciferYes, we would be here advocating basic economic sense: hanging the fedwral reserve and banning usury
>>543210569>can you explain whyIf you want a easy goto explaination; his name is gregory mannarinoAny of his guest speakers are also likewise on the same page
>>543218248It's just some amatuer gay troll that read my post 45 minutes about Civ before he came over here and posted that comment. Hahaha, we're being raided by tranny faggots or something. They're reading our post and then twisting things around in order to appear like they know what they're talking about within our coversations. >>543205536>Oh some guy was talking about Civ in the other thread>That sounds smart >I'm going to use that to talk shit in this thread nowLiteral fucking high school tier antics. Whoa bro! you're so clever and skilled. You are really winning the election this time! LOL stupid mother fuckers.
>>543210286Wtf is a Treasury note and why is silver still holding at $65?
Guys my 5 day poopoo chart is brown on the day holy shit we're so fucked.
>>543218323The US defaulted 55 years ago, august 1971. But today is a big day. With the 10y over 5 percent the paper game is over. This coupled with America's ineffectual in Hormuz, Yemen, and Somali coast means pax americana is ded. Next step is the reveal you have been lying about your gold and all five eyes are bust
>>543211995>>543212080At some point you run into the Marie Kondo problem; you may decide that overall the government needs to be smaller, but when you look at each individual piece, you don't want to throw that particular one away. You get to the end and you've thrown out nothing. You want to cut regulations, but each regulation seems to be there for a reason. You want to cut spending, but every bit of spending has someone dependent on it who seems to be doing something of value, or who at the very least you can't afford to piss off. To actually cut things out requires a level of brutality, a feeling that you don't care what happens next, this shit has to go. The same masculinity that cuts down trees to create a farm, a masculinity woefully lacking in individuals and in the system as a whole.
>>543217408didn't say the US is bad. It's just a fake non-country now. It is still the best (fake) country, but it's delusional to claim it's real.
>>543210286If you reduce the range of fhe vertical portion of the graph even further you can actually make it a straight line. Also if you wanted to make it look totally flat you.xould just incrasw the range by a ton so all of your data points fall within a. Roughly straight flat line. The reality is the half a fraction of a percent doesn't mean anything at all; they number routinely vary within a range that is significantly larger than that. If you fall for the feat mongering then I pity you for being so stupid.
>>543210286>omg something moved from 4.9 to 5.1Retard
>>543217920You're worse than a North Korean with how delusional you are, you know that right?
>>543210286I don't even understand the point the tweet is trying to make. I'm at a point where I have enough assets that I have to fight inflation in order to preserve wealth. Basically I have to invest or my money withers away due to inflation. I have to earn more on investments than the inflation rate. I can buy stocks or bonds. These are the 2 main entities competing for my money. If the government is willing to pay a GUARANTEED 5.125% per year on my money why should I gamble on the stock market and private companies? To me it looks like the government is trying to compete with the stock market which it must see as about to really explode. That's just how I see it.
you guys are niggers if you don't understand 5 percent yield on the 10 year is unsustainable, everytime it goes over 5 they have to intervene, most revently covid happened when the 10y went over 5% the last time
>>543220439You are either lying or stupid. Being stupid doesn't mean you deserve to be impoverished, but being stupid and writing it out to mislead others is a good enough reason. Buy those bonds then. You can be extra double happy when they go up to 7 percent
>>543210286just learn now to pickle vegetablesnot that fermented veggies aren't super healthy, but the brine can be poured onto soil ruined by Monsanto chemicals so that the people can plant and grow food after the collapse.
>>543220471Except they just announced they are losing money by printing it. That's right even with a money printer they cannot afford to open market operations. Interventionisms is now helicopter money and stimmies
>>543210552There's nothing cryptic about you, you're just retarded.
Stocks are way too frothy. Money moving into safe yield before the 30% decline.
>>543220439This post is peak midwit. The OP tweet is suggesting the market is starting to think the yields on US bonds aren’t so guaranteed.
>>543210481>Virgin civ vs Chad Alpha CentauriI always larped as space hippies or commies which are opposite my beliefs.
>>543213204It is, yields are a measure of trust and when it increases as little as 0.1% it's a massive change down the line. It's true that the yields used to be greater, but those were before the zero-interest times. Now the system is cracking due to a myriad of factors, foreign governments are dumping bonds and in order to attract investors the yield needs to increase and in order to pay for those increases in the future you have to print more dollars. 5% is the conventional wisdom that things get fucky, which is why there are shills in threads like this
>>543212474>if it wasn't it would have been bought out by capitalists wholly instead of being its own country.So despite vast international pressure to capitulate and let itself be bought, it has instead figured out a way to stand independent and owned by itself, while still doing business with many other nation states. And this is...le bad? And evidence that it's not as good as Rust Belt America's system of not winning wars for Israel?
>>543218215>todaywhere have you been, nigger?
The US government is now synonymous with Donald Trump.The US government therefore now gets his credit rating. "Full faith and credit" no longer.
>>543210488Treasury yields growing by 0.1% in less than a week is utterly catastrophic.Treasuries are supposed to be zero risk investment. They have the lowest returns in the entire market for a reason. Look at the graph, treasury yields barely ever change.And the US government has to roll over 20+ trillion dollars in debt every five/ten years. 0.1% to the debt of the global hegemon and the largest national economy on Earth is insane.Not even 3rd-world countries see such rise in debt cost. It is a mark of severe distrust from investors.
>>543220849>>543220613I have money that I've earned from building a successful business. You tell me how I should protect it. Has the US Government ever not paid up on a bond rate? It's the most sure thing I can think of to invest in
>>543221131>trustWe are post trust. We don't believe America holds unencumbered gold. That's what is keeping foreign central banks afloat like Germany. The rise in gold price was a necessity. Aus, nz, Canada have no gold. It looks like a suicide pact
>>543212103>In essence soaring bond yields translate to stronger dollar which in turn drives more selling of bonds.Why would a higher yield turn to a sale of bonds? You're getting more money with a higher coupon so how would that turn you away, especially if you are already holding?
This account has done literally nothing but post "u.s is collapsing" doom porn for the past two years lmao
>>543221426>You tell me how I should protect itNo. Currency is a fiction. I recommend storing treasure in heaven or as the tao says, "fill a room with gold and jade..." Anyway midwits, and especially midwit Americans are my sworn enemies
>>543210286PATRIOTS IN CONTROLYOU LOST TRANNYMAGA
>>543217408You're right a couple more terms of posting edgy tweets will save the West and defeat China XD
>>543210286Green good!Up good!USA WINNING
>>543210552What does he know about the economists?? :o Any juicy details about their personal sex lives, EAASL poofag??
>>543211365Please explain
>>543210286Let me assure you that I have several deadlines looming at work right now, and there is no way the universe would allow me any escape from them. So there will be no collapse anytime soon.
>>543211107It says that the money is already printed, so it's not inflationary.It's horse shit because the money is in the Treasury General account, intended for other govt spending, so it will have to get backfilled with printing next period.They are spending the gold on the stagecoach. Is this wrong? If so please correct.
>>543210286this is the china is collapsing meme with an American coat of paint.We are now, and forever will hold the reins. People can mald about it, cope about it, seethe about it, but we have the world by the balls. And ours is an iron grip. Keep coping faggots, you're going to continue obeying and fulfilling quotas to keep our imperial ambitions satisfied. You have no say in the matter, just be glad that you were given the opportunity to earn a few pesos instead of having to scour the trash like the bottom-feeding parasites that you all are deep down.Looking at you, yuropoors. Dumb niggers really thought that the clay had power over the potter.
>>543212374Everything you are saying is very antisemetic goy
>>543221571Cool story memeflag. My point is that if the government is offering 5.125 on my money then that's my baseline. It's guaranteed. If they default then I've got bigger problems to worry about than dollars in my back account. I have physical silver, gold, and stockpiles of food and ammunition. You can get all faggy and metaphorical and tell me that currency is fiction because you don't have any. But if you legitimately have a better way to protect from inflation I'd like to hear it. My skepticism tells me that if the government will give me this much for my money then they must know there are better options for larger returns. Meaning I bet the dow as a whole is about to grow huge. There's surely a tracker that checks new money entering the stock market. I bet it's bigger than ever. Also I do see the downsides, taxpayers will ultimately foot the bill for the interest. Is midwit the new buzzword at shareblue? Have y'all at least changed the name from shareblue yet?
>>5432221395.188%. it's not a prediction it's an observation and this blowout in yields is having no effect on oil or gold or copper
>>543222428Ask your financial advisor. I'm not capable of explaining bond pricing to someone of your intellect. Your ad hominem is idle speculation and doesn't encourage me to cast you any pearls if wisdom
>>543210481>To be fair civ is hard.Bro has never tried Shogun 2 diplomacy especially during the fucking REALM DIVIDE
>>543222428>There's surely a tracker that checks new money entering the stock market. I bet it's bigger than ever.>what is volume?Fucking retard LARPer.
>>543222698>REALM DIVIDEThat face when the Emperor orders the entire nation to dog piled on you immediately and you get asspillaged by stacks of doom and repeat rear line AI naval invasions and naval trade route plundering. Port blockages out the ass too...
>It's happening!Source: Twitter.
>>543216784>I don't deserve $ >Federal Minimum Wage: In January 1950, the U.S. minimum wage was set at $0.75 per hour.>Price of Gold: The average market price for an ounce of gold in 1950 was about $40.25.>The Labor Ratio: It took roughly 53.67 hours of minimum-wage work to earn enough to buy a single ounce of gold back then.>Current Gold Price: Gold trades at approximately $4,305 per ounce>The Calculation: If you apply that same 1950 work-time ratio (earning 1/53.67th of an ounce per hour), today's hourly pay would need to be around $80.22.Miglets aren't people you're not even cattle. You're BELOW cattle which is what goyim really means.
>>543210488Nothing EverHappens
>>543217540>attempting to be more subtle to blend in as long as possible before people realize theres something off about themlmao whose going to tell them?
>>543210552>the best economists in the world
>>543221426Ok you seem sincere so I will give you a sincere answer.First, in terms of where to park your money physical gold is always the safest bet. You could, as you mentioned, buy treasuries. But this goes back to the OP; yields are rising because nobody wants to buy US debt. If you think this is just a temporary blip (and it very well could be), then by all means load up on T-bills and collect your free money. But the schizo doomer thesis is that the world has determined the USA is a deadbeat and is telling the feds to go fuck themselves. Our entire nation (if you can still call it that) is based on people being willing to lend us money, so if the spigot really is cut off then it is going to get ugly. But again, this is the schizo doomer thesis. What gives me pause is that the schizo doomer worldview appears vindicated in the post-Epstein/Iran era.
>>543213070Not if Montezuma fucks your ass before you build a second city
>>543222878Christ is King lol
>>543222698>>543222793>can't into early stage tributes while everyone still likes you and then just buy them off later
>>543217920>>543217978You guys completely misunderstand the implications. It doesn’t mean “they don’t trust the US to pay the bonds.” All it means is they’re identifying better returns elsewhere.
>>543210552You speak the truth and are hated for it. I don't even care if this twitter post is correct. It is obviously written by an AI for engagement bait. All of 4chan is like this nowadays and I AM SICK OF IT.
>>543210286Trump will save America and the white race o algo>less than a decade later
>>543222612"Go ask a kike, while I deflect". I bet you don't even hate the antichrist...
Not to tumour weaks everyone, but it is starting to be time to make some 'oh shit' plans. The problem is, were are they going with this?They know mathematically the US can't and isn't going to pay the National debt. The interest this year was $900B, it i will be $2T next year and they can no longer borrow. The game is up for run a deficit and increase the National debt. That gives you two options; default on the debt or debase your own currency through hyperinflation and pay the debts with inflated dollars. Debasing your own currency when it is the world currency is pretty messy. So, probably a default is declared at some point, which would be instant. This leaves your country somewhat intact rather than a long rundown where everything fails. What does a default do. You obviously don't get more credit. You lose all foreign assets like in a bankruptcy - foreign businesses, land leases, oil wells, property, army bases, etc. etc. Beyond that what do you need? You need to be able to have your required imports. You need raw materials - Canada and Venezuela. You then need to safeguard your homeland - Greenland and the Panama canal. All of the armed forces come home and the guns turn outwards.
>>543223009>First, in terms of where to park your money physical gold is always the safest bet.gold is the safest betif you want to have a simultaneous hedge and a potential moonshot, buy silver. Has all the same properties that makes gold valuable, but has incredible upside potential. Enough to melt faces. I put good odds on the flippening happening, at least for a short window. >schizo oldfag
>>543219301>masculinity is being an impulsive retardKek. That's the highschool-level thinking that got you into that mess to begin with.DOGE didn't work because it was full of retards. On the team they had a 19-year old whose only work experience was being fired from an internship because he leaked sensitive data.Putting someone like that in charge of government oversight because his daddy donated money to Trump is some CCP-tier bullshit.In the end the only thing DOGE did was remove all the bodies that were investigating Elon's companies.
>>543223009>schizo doomer thesis is that the world has determined the USA is a deadbeatWe can't really see what you have to pay us with. Like youtube premium or some more data analytics on facebook or a bit of international girl bossing isn't going to cut it. You been getting by on bullying for 25 years and that's over. We would be willing to cut a deal but you've promised everything to boomers
>>543223009Thanks. That contradicts nothing that I've said. I agree that things may go completely tits up but I'm not stopping everything I'm doing because things are scary. Of course I'm older if I've achieved what I've claimed to. I've seen this doomer mentality forever. I've been part of it. Nothing's going to happen. It never happens. The thread makes more sense from the doomer lens. Here's an outlier, it's proof that the world is ending, let's rejoice! I'm sorry I brought my literal concerns into the Armageddon watch party. I'll just go grab some popcorn and watch with everyone.
>>543223319>I bet you don't even hate the antichrist...You are a master of bad bets. Why do you think I am happy the day the dollar die
>>543223620Anon, I hate ZOG as much as the next guy. But you memeflag turdwordlers need to understand the schizo doomer thesis, while more credible than it has been in the past, is still fringe. As cringe as ZOGmerica is, the chinks and the russkies are even worse. Yuros aren’t even part of the conversation anymore. ZOG very well could persist for another 50 or even 100 years.
>>543223035"Its better to cum a shitload than to shit a cumload"
>>543223934Shut the fuck up nigger China isnt the one shoving niggers and jeets down my throat, Russia isnt the one blackmailing our leadership with pedo rings. ZOG must die, at all costs.
>>543210286Will I still receive my Amazon deliveries?
It makes the US introduction of Stablecoins, which are money backstopped by shorter term US Bonds a little more interesting.
>>543223934>fringeonly to goys hopelessly suckling on the tit of the system. Accepting for sake of argument that China, Russia and the yuros are all broke faggot retards as well, that doesnt mean that the US just wins by default. Maybe if the US was actively setting itself on fire while shitting its pants and flipping the bird to the entire world all at the same time, we would be fine. But we have not only lost all credibility on the world stage, but all fear and all respect. We have nothing left except debt and resentment.Hope you have enough canned food.
>>543223871In your first post you said you didn’t understand the OP and that yields were rising “to compete with the stock market” which is why I called you a midwit. And to be fair, you still seem like one notwithstanding your success. Maybe you are an unironic boomer which would be pure pottery.In any case, the big question is why are yields rising? Is it just because of our temporary political situation? Probably. OR are the schizo doomers about to be vindicated yet again?
>>543223934>ZOG very well could persist for another 50 or even 100 years.I can't see that. Timelines are hard though. The militarized extinction burst begins now. The paper game is over. That's why I'm hiding in the third world. We just hit 5.2
>>543223998Sure, I hear where you’re coming from. But I’m just talking about economics right now.>>543224150Re-read your post and tell me schizo doomer is an inaccurate label kek
>>543224315never said it was an inaccurate label, but that doesnt mean I'm wrong. I've only ever been wrong on the timing, which is why I have given up on the when. But the what and the who I have been right about for the past 15 years.
>>543224167I appreciate your honesty so will engage further. There's a dislocation on the market today. Stonks should be going down and gold too as bonds crater; but they shrugging it off as if it's already priced in or the dumb money thinks stonks are a refuge
>>543214207That was pretty fucked up of Bugs Bunny to trick that guy into doing that.
>>543224383Schizos are always right. American bond yields now higher than Malaysia, about the same as Peru. Third world status has officially printed
>>543217216Ha. A lot of people forget that the thing that propelled Ron Paul to the national spotlight was when he said that our problems with the Middle East were caused our occupation of the area. Giuliani went nuts and freaked out on Ron Paul. The crowd cheered and was totally in support of what he said. There was even a moment on Fox where a talking head stated that Ron Paul should be barred from any future debates at the same time that a graphic underneath showed the result of a poll naming Ron Paul the winner of the debate.
All of this could be avoided if Flight 93 passengers simply stayed in their seats..
