Because if evolution is just another lie, this makes the existence of an immaterial God almost inevitable.This thread IS political because religion, university funding/accurate or biased research and different beliefs and priors all touch the political realm and have political ramifications.If evolution is fake, everything changes. This means the immaterial realm is real, non-biological entities ("angels") are real and spiritual warfare is real.
>>543424158>anon discovers recursion Buckle in
My opinion is, evolution is fake. It's a mainstream lie that collapses under closer inspection. The purpose of the lie is to make people believe in materialism (to turn those they can get a hold of into porn-addicted degenerates) and to separate you from God.Debunking evolution isn't hard:https://xenosarc.substack.com/p/from-a-mathematical-and-logical-standpoint
I was never a nigger.
How does the pic in the OP mean evolution is fake? Finding out that there is a biological mechanism behind the meta stability of biological life literally strengthens evolutionary theory.
>>543424455See the left half of the second imageGradual evolution cannot explain this
>>543424158Evolution is obviously fake. The elites that rule over us are themselves very religious (with their wierdo, Epstein island gnostic bullshit and magic), but want the little people to have no religion.Tyrants dislike religion, any religion, for the common people because it provides an organizing principle seperate from the state as well as a system of morality that could call out leaders that follow no rules.
>>543424158How is >descent with inheritancesomething that you can deny? Researchers make new fruitfly species all the time, it just takes a few weeks.
>>543424158You went step too far. First start with abiogenesis, which is still hypothesis. Translation: bullshit.
>>543424158It's real and it's not even up for debate, it's just dysgenics and niggers who argue against it because it conflicts with their self-worship.
>>543426632>The Le Science is SETTLED, CHUUUUD!!!Why are atheists always faggot communists?
>>543426927>I'm a fucking retard so that means you are tooWe don't know even 10% of everything at play when describing the entire synthesis and error check process. Just because you personally don't understand 0.01% of that 10% doesn't mean shit. There's no way people like you are anything but well poisoners.
>>543427391>communist word diareah with a side order of psuedo-intellectual word salad.Uh huh, yeah, sure, ok, whatever you say, mmhmm, yep.
>>543424158It’s in the name retards. “Theory of Evolution”. That’s all it is. A theory. A theory that most “experts” decided to agree upon.
>>543426632>it's not even up for debateThus proving it is a dogmatic religion, not a science.
>>543426632It's literally jewish kabbalah (tzimtzum) rebranded with pseudoscientific terminology by freemasons Erasmus/Charles Darwin and Charles Lyell. They are ushering in the one-world government for the antichrist and the one-world religion. Gullible idiots like you will follow the 7 noahide laws and take the mark of the beast, because the "soγence" is settled goyim.
>>543427499Your ignorance has no bearing on reality. Just because if you walk into a carpentry shop you would have no idea what the tools are for and would lose digits doesn't change that chairs and cabinets exist.
>>543424337It's complete bullshit. Modern genetic science proves that the theory of evolution is impossible. That's why you rarely hear it discussed these days.
>>543424158Evolution is real and the jew god is fake.thats pretty much it.
>>543424337>doesnt understand Life builds up from simple single cell organisms and becomes more complex over time as they develop to access different sources of energy>thinks it just spawns like already finished because some foreskin eating jew god willed itkek
I'm guessing that most if not all anons who think evolution is bullshit think the same about outer space.Am I wrong?
>>543424158It's already been proven with bacteria. Total abrahamic death
Faith is the key element of both politics and religion.Logic takes a back seat when it comes down to making a final choice.What one believes is of paramount importance.Discussion of faith in politics is largely absent outside of the propaganda aspects.It is an almost forbidden topic to say that you simply BELIEVE that something should be a certain way without some scientific backing. Political ‘science’ seeks to break down beliefs into a scientifical format to lend it legitimacy. It is really just a poor critique of the propaganda side of politics.FAITH has a very large meaning. If you care to explore it, https://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/faith has a historical and well thought out look at the meaning of the word. We will simply use the first:>1. Belief; the assent of the mind to the truth of what is declared by another, resting on his authority and veracity, without other evidence; the judgment that what another states or testifies is the truth.As you can see, logic, science, nor anything else have anything to do with it when it comes right down to it. They may assist you in making the decision, but ultimately FAITH is a choice. You set your will to have faith or you do not. There is no middle ground. If you are still debating the topic in your own mind, you have no faith. 99.999% pure faith is 100% self-delusion. You have refused to have faith in whatever it is. You have said, “NO.”Since we have established that science has no place in this discussion, we will not seek to prove our point using this system which promotes the abdication of thought while claiming to be the arbiters of all truth equal to any religion. They are mere hypocrites, overgrown children playing the game of religion without adults.
>>543432171Religion requires faith. If your religion lies about that fact, your religion is a lie. As we ultimately must discuss religion to discuss politics, since all are mere faith based systems, we will turn to the Word of God on the application of faith.>Hebrews 10:38-39 Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.According to God, you are either operating in faith or you are not. Indecision does not exist. This topic, as applied in the lives of the faithful, is discussed at length and in depth in the following chapter.
>>543432255>Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.Same as it ever was, politics and religion agree that whether the conditions you hope for exist or not, faith is key to making them so.>Hebrews 11:4 By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.The first murder was the end of the first brotherhood of man. Politics simply mimics this on a grand scale. Abel, whom God declares righteous for acting by faith, gave a sacrifice that we have no record of a command for. How then did Abel know to do it? He heard the Word form God some place that has not been recorded. How do we know? >Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.Without hearing, there can be no faith.This is no different in politics. Marx is the most renowned god of politics in the modern age. Whether you believe him, and enter into the communist faith, or refuse to accept his word, you still partake in the choice of faith that is modern politics. Communists have done more to communicate their message than most political religions. The true believers passion of faith carries this failed experiment on to new generations to learn the hard way. Other political religions are equal in failure if not in flair.Propaganda is essential to the life of politics. Without the word, nonbelievers cannot be brought to faith or judged for their lack of it. This condemnation is a mere aping of God’s Word reduced to a more bestial format.>John 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.As above, so below, in form if not function.
>>543432290From Enoch’s faith we learn,>Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.As in religion, so in politics. Those who question the faith of politics shall not prosper in it, but true believers will be elevated to the heights! Those who surround Donald Trump illustrate this very well. Those who believe and preach the true word of MAGA remain in the good graces of their chosen god. Those who waiver are trampled under foot as the dung in a designated street in India.
>>543432323That brings us to Noah, father of all men now living.>Hebrews 11:7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.We see this in twisted reflection among the zionist neo-cons of our day. They seek to remake the world to avoid that which they fear, being held to account for the sins they spill out into the world in a flood of human blood. They seek to establish their own riches to ensure their future to the condemnation of all who are not among their august class of rulership.
>>543432255>According to Godyou mean according to some jew who pretended to be god and wrote down some shit for gullible retards.fact is there is no jew god anywhere and it is not needed for any process anywhere in the universe. not for galaxies, not for stars, not for planets and not for life.
>>543432355We now move on to a key figure in modern politics, Abraham. His lineage has been claimed by the three major religions as their own, by their own faith in their traditions, not by the Word of God. Abraham was promised a seed, and it was delivered. >Galatians 3:16-18 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.All those who seek the inheritance seek to annul the promise. They ignore the lesson set forth by Abraham>Hebrews 11:13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.The set false promises based on an inheritance their forefathers forsook long before they were born, as their distorted aim. They seek to pretend an inheritance in the land of Canaan, which has never been theirs to claim. They view possession as 9/10 of the law, and pretend that last 10th does not hold their ultimate destruction. They base their political future on a lie that even God Himself has declared they will not profit from.>Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them WHICH SAY THEY ARE JEWS, AND ARE NOT, but are the synagogue of Satan.>Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, WHICH SAY THEY ARE JEWS, AND ARE NOT, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.Good fruit does not come from a corrupt tree.
>>543424158Both can be true. We were artificially created and then left to evolve.
>>543432405They mistake the physical blessing given to their forefather, Esau, as being the eternal promise made to Jacob’s line.>Hebrews 11:20 By faith Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau concerning things to come.They lie and say the promise is theirs for the land. They think that by occupying it first they make their claim more valid than the Palestinians they genocide for G-d. All modern politics hinge around this bastardization of faith. No one seeks to properly identify who the promises were made to or the conditions necessary for a valid claim of those promises to be honored.Joseph suffered in life and rose to great power, ruling over the land of Egypt, second only to Pharaoh., but setting his sights on the future he will be resurrected into.>Hebrews 11:22-24, 26 By faith Joseph, when he died, made mention of the departing of the children of Israel; and gave commandment concerning his bones. By faith Moses, when he was born, was hid three months of his parents, because they saw [he was] a proper child; and they were not afraid of the king's commandment. By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh's daughter; ... Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward.We see that Joseph gave this hope to others, with Moses himself carrying it until his death with a hope of life eternal. This is darkly mirrored in the political realm as men record their opinions of government and create schools to indoctrinate future generations to achieve them. For good or ill, the American forefathers have done this with great success. Even though some knew it would rot as it passed through the pages of history, they sought to establish their work for as long as possible. The Apotheosis of George Washington in the capital dome speaks of the hubris of such endeavors. Politics becomes religion even where religion fails to achieve political victory.
>>543432407or life just evolves on its own. thermodynamics dont require a foreskin eating jew god at any step after all.
>>543432445Men do great things in pursuit of their faith,>Hebrews 11:33-34 Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions, Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens.In politics, many kingdoms have fallen, morality (correct or not) established in conquered lands, promises obtained by force or deception, strong mouths silenced by the guillotine or other less bloody techniques, violence ultimately ended when everything has been burned, compatriots spared the sword of their enemies, weak and immoral men made to rule over all, many great battles fought, and enemies turned to flight, sometimes themselves to become and instrument of war invading other lands.
>>543424158Yup, it doesn't make sense. And they will point to shit like fruit flies going blind in the dark after several generations as "proof" when all that is is genes which already exist turning off/on NOT a totally novel invention of mutation/natural selection.
>>543432489Great sacrifice accompanies all true acts of faith.>Hebrews 11:35-38 Women received their dead raised to life again: and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection: And others had trial of cruel mockings and scourgings, yea, moreover of bonds and imprisonment: They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with the sword: they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins; being destitute, afflicted, tormented; (Of whom the world was not worthy:) they wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth.Modern political religions require no less sacrifice, though no rewards follow. Women receive their living returned in a box wrapped in a flag to prove their sacrifice benefited the rulers. Many are tortured, receiving deliverance only in death. No resurrection is promised, only that the suffering might serve to strike fear into the hearts of other nonbelievers who dare to disbelieve in the political religion of their rulers. Both believers and non may be mocked and scourged to serve the ‘greater good’, meaning specifically the good of the great. Slavery and imprisonment are also favored tools of the elite. Many die by shot and sword, with salvation offered if they renounce their disbelief and swear fealty to their overlords’ pretended divinity. They wander in rags, destitute of all earthly belongings and sustenance, being forced to hide in the mountain caves and holes they dig under the earth to hide from the violence brought by men who presume themselves gods.
>>543432407While this seems like a reasonable compromise when you think about it it makes no fucking sense to believe in both.
>>543432531The question is not one of whether you will have faith in life, but rather WHO will you have faith in. Do you embrace God and His Word, relying on Him to come and raise you from the grave as He raised His own Son after He died on the cross? Do you accept the blood sacrifice for your crimes against Him and humble yourself to be remade a new man fit for the Kingdom of God? Or, do you refuse the offer, placing your faith in your own flesh and fantasy, or the fantasies of other men who wish to subjugate you to serve them and build their kingdoms? You have faith in God or you default to faith in the world you see dying around you. As Karl Von Clausewitz states, > War is the continuation of politics by other means.Spiritual war is no different. Religion and politics are one. The spiritual war has been raging since our forefather Adam chose faith in his wife over faith in God. We have been losing ground ever since. That war is reaching a climax. The false intelligences that coordinate all the previously laid foundations of deception should be an excellent indication. There is coming a day when your faith will be proved. A man will step forward to lead humanity into a great future. Another man, also God, will return to claim His own and leave those who love the lie to perish in it.You, whether you choose by volition or default, choose the reward you will receive, be it life or death...eternal.
The problem with Abrahamics is that they'll concede science is an evolving and constantly growing repository of knowledge which their own lives depend on daily. But then they'll attempt to point out any momentary gaps in that knowledge as proof jewish sorcerers exist. >We don't understand the precise mechanics of black holes>"UNICORNS DID IT!" Just because we don't know something now, does not mean we won't know it forever.
>>543432162>It's already been proven with bacteria.No... its not.https://youtu.be/jlmgFFBBopM?is=fWITHaCXI4daEivn
what you actually disagree with is the age of the universe and the laws of physicsif you think that the world is 6000 years old and that capricious god just waves his holy fingers to break his inviolable laws of physics, then obviously you don't believe in evolution. And conversely, if you accept the laws of physics like everyone else does, then evolution from mineral to human is trivial.So argue over the more fundamental point, which is the nature of matter and the creation of the universe.
>>543424158>this makes the existence of an immaterial God almost inevitable.Proving or disproving evolution does absolutely nothing for the claim that there's an omnipotent, all knowing, creator being. Sorry. There could be a god AND evolution. There could be NO god and NO evolution. The two claims aren't related.
If evolution is real, God is still real.It just means the jews account of creation was corrupt, and the hebrew bible contains falsehoods.There is ONE thing in evolution that is hard to explain though, and that's how quickly humans diverged from other apes and acquired aquatic characteristics in record time.THIS, actually lines up with the assyrian creation account wherein man alone is a species that was consciously created.>>543432673Evolution proves that the hebrew accounts of divinity are corrupted.The existence of prior, more detailed flood myths supports this.The hebrews continued another culture and retold a corrupt version of the truth.
>>543432622>Just because we don't know something now, does not mean we won't know it forever.So, in other words... you have faith?
>>543432391>not needed for any process anywhere>>543432460>life just evolves on its ownShow ONE repeatable and testable example of macroevolution.You don't even have to star with a rock.Just a tree turning into a monkey or something equally impossible without a Creator.Not a 'scientist' manipulating something to 'prove' a hypothesis, just observing a life form transform itself into another lifeform without outside intervention. Testing for genetic proof before or after is fine, but NO INTERFERING IN THE PROCESS.You can't.You worship randomness, the most douch-baggy g-d of all.
>>543424158Why did you green text a chat bot?
>>543432645yeah, it has been proven. One strain, adapting and mutating over 50,000 generations, resulting in a different strain.
if evolution is true, u cannot trust ur mind at allur mind will force hallucinations on you so that you believe whatever is necessary to keep u alive to procreatethis means u cannot possibly fathom the conceot of truth, bc ur mind itself is unreliablebut u obviously understand that truth exist, bc u understand that there is a consistency, an order, a logos, between what u believe about evolution and the reliable, orderly conclusion that follows from that beliefto recognize this and then go on to subscribe to evolution is a willful ignornace, a belief in a lie on purposeand if u understood thr sbove, the only belief system that allows for truth is historic Christianity, bc logos is necesary for all of this to be recognizeable and make sense, and only Christianity affirms a foundational logos, which has to be both transcendental and yet interact eith this reality called creation
>>543432112Mainstream cosmology is obviously wrong because, despite the universe being 99.9% plasma, plasma physics aren't used to describe itOuter space is probably real thoughBut dynamics are misrepresentedSee this: https://xenosarc.substack.com/p/electricity-in-space
If evolution was real then their believers wouldn't need to defend it the way they do
>>543432770The hebrew bible contains falsehoods, contradictions, and a corrupted version of the actual truthExodus not happening as described and only levites coming through egypt for oneAs well as the hebrew kingdom being a province of egyptThe only accurate things in it are the covenants god made with these people to try and moderate their impulses, and the times he destroyed them for being awful
>>543432818I have hallucinated, and the mind IS unreliable. We lie to ourselves and make shit up to fill in the blanks all the time.
>>543432863upvote-farming nigger logic>if jesus was real, then obviously we wouldn't need to build shrines to glorify him
>>543428092>Your ignorance has no bearing on reality. Just because if you walk into a carpentry shop you would have no idea what the tools are for and would lose digits doesn't change that chairs and cabinets exist.Same rules apply, (You) communist faggot.
>>543432725>There is ONE thing in evolution that is hard to explain thoughits not hard to explain, massive electromagnetic discharges changes DNA/RNA. earth was in an electrically more active environment.this pretty much explains it all. basically same as throwing seeds in a microwave to mutate them but on a bigger scale.>>543432770>Show ONE repeatablewe cant do it because we cant run the experiment for hundreds of millions of years to see the results of that nor can we replicate the exact conditions needed for it because they are on a planetary scale.its kinda like you can fuck as many woman as you want but it still takes 9 months for a baby to appear and you cant really speed this process up.
>>543432770>You worship randomnessits not randomness, its thermodynamic inevitability.
>>543432725All middle eastern religions are corrupted accounts. They're all bullshit. Yes, this includes your middle eastern jew on a stick religion.
>>543432846>the universe being 99.9% plasmaI think I see a problem here. AFAIK no astronomers have made that claim, so I think you're fighting a straw man.
>>543432074>foreskin eating jew godSee imageBut noThe existence of orphan genes (encoding functional proteins) and irreducibly complex biological systems proves that it couldn't have come from a simple-->more complex processMutation and selection cannot create such types of systems
>>543432818>if evolution is true, u cannot trust ur mind at allThat's actually trueYes, your mind evolved to only perceive the parts of reality that were relevant to its survivalWe only know of our mind's lying nature because we have consciousness and were able to probe others minds to induce them to lieWe only know of reality beyond this because we created machines to detect it, and we still can only detect some of the electromagnetic spectrum.It took us centuries to begin to figure out that gravity was (as it intuitively would be) a higher electromganetic phenomenon. Things like space time fabric, the big bang emerging from "quantum fluctuations", consciousness as emergent from hardware computation, are all pure faith.>>543433001>Humans received a genetic kidney transplant from swine>it was.... le discharges>Also, your ancestors: "The gods labor force rebelled, so they slaughtered a god and his intelligence, mixed it with the stuff of the earth, and made man to bear his burden"
>>543433024It's the electric universe claim. And it's bullshit.
>>543433001>we cant do it because we cant run the experiment for hundreds of millions of yearsThen you understand why there is NO SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE of evolution.>>543432885You still don't have evidence I presume?>>543433021>its not randomness, its thermodynamic inevitability.Sure thing there, 'scientist'.
I always find it fascinating how theists will argue against evolution in the abstract from first principles but then take it as granted that, "since God exists, therefore He talked to this particular schizo sheep shagger 3000 years ago."God existing and Abraham being full of shit are mutually exclusive concepts. The burden of proof is on you to demonstrate that some guy who tried to murder his son and cut part of his dick off was subject to divine revalation and not a mere nutjob.
>>543432944but it must be reliable to a certain degree, bc ur grammar ordered the words u wanted to use to reliably and orderly communicate ur thoughtsand u must have believed ur mind was reliable to a certsin degree, since u wrote those grammared symbols expecting them to be understood by a receiver
>>543432559What contradiction do you see?
>>543433107>there is NO SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE of evolution.The fossils were suspicious, the DNA is the nail in the coffin. It gives us both the why and the how of organisms changing over time.
>>543433024See image(dark matter and dark energy cannot be observed - because these are mathematical artificats that would probably disappear once you'd account for electromagnetic interactions)
>>543433026you dont even understand how the process works at all and you go in with the assumption that some jew made shitskin religion must be true.so you would always find copes for why the foreskin eating jew god must be real.
>>543424158The modern theory of evolution starts to unravel the moment you start getting into the weeds about genetics. A big fucking middle finger to evolution is trying to get them to explain how the existence of the topoisomerase type 1 and 2 came into existence. topoisomerase type 1 and 2 are a complex enzyme whos only function is to run around and prevent super coilsSuper coils are what happens when DNA splits and begin to separate in order to allow cell division, when this happens, DNA cant split, the cell dies, no life. This thing comes along and stops that.The problem, how the fuck did this thing evolve? Because the only way it could have came into existance is it evolving over incredibly long periods of time though natural mutations, however, that natural mutation process could not have ever happened because super coils would have prevented cell division to take place. Its basically a biological chicken and the egg situation. topoisomerase type 1 could not have evolved because with out it, evolution could not have happened as described by modern theory due to cell death.It could not have just existed randomly before DNA evovled because then it would have evolved a HIGHLY specific function with out anything to actually do it on. It would be like having a socket wrench being invested because bolts were invested. The only reasonable explanation is that it evolved alongside DNA or was created to solve a future problem not yet present in existence, IE Intelligent design.
>>543424158>>543424337>Chickens cannot exist without eggs>Eggs cannot exist without chickens>Therefore the only possibility is (((the Jewish god))) willed them into existenceYou stupid nigger, the state of something today is not concrete proof it was always like that. For example Germany used to have men in it, now it has you
>>543433118God exists, and since the line of abraham was inherently mentally ill, having pre-flood corruption (man was taught the mixing of species in those days, biotech is our undoing), god imposed increasingly harsh restrictions on carnal pleasure.When god began regulating that tribe, he found them fucking everything that moved without restraint or any politeness and tearing raw flesh to eat from still living animals.
>>543433107>there is NO SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE of evolution.there is, look at all the life on earth.>Sure thing thereyes thermodynamics are real and your fake jew god is not real and will never be real or needed for anything.
>People try to disprove "science">They start citing scientific evidence and terminologyThis is like when flat earthers start arguing about the 2nd law of thermo dynamics doesn't allow for space to exist or some shit. Like nigga, you can't not believe in something only to selectively chose things from said thing to attack it with.
>>543433208So do you believe that 99.9% of the universe is "visible, ordinary matter"? Again I don't think any astronomers have made that claim.
>>543433255The only thing that can disprove science, is ironically more science.
>>543433219Unless a complex of simpler enzymes did the same thing, but worse, going back to a single enzyme that prevented supercoils but so rarely complex life would never evolve.Once these enzymes evolved DNA was stable enough to support life
>>543433102the very fact that grammar is embedded into language, and even those that believe in evolution use grammared words to communicate their thoughts means they think their mind is somewhat reliablethey should either give up consistency and order altogether, or admit that they know they believe an untenable belief systemthe fact that they understand the above should be their wakeup call
>>543433208Dark matter and dark energy aren't plasma interactions.They are a state of reality you can't perceive and haven't built a machine capable of measuring.
>>543424158There is zero evidence for god or any non-biological entities. Therefore even if one were to accept the premise that evolution is false and that some sort of god must exist there is absolutely nothing we can do with that assertion. And it would certainly do nothing to validate any specific religion, those are clearly fictional nonsense either way.
Obviously fake but careful you dont get sucked into the faction of Christians that just wants to debate evolution all day, as fascinating as that topic is. I spent a good two years obsessed with it.
>>543433364Internally consistent language generator != reliable reality-perceiver
>>543433371>Dark matter and dark energydoesnt exist, jews had to made this up to explain their failing big bang cosmology (the observations and data did not support their theory).
>>543433255>You can't believe in something selectivelyHave you ever talked to a christ cuck or any other magic sky daddy cultist? Believing things selectively is the basis for their entire identity
It exists, but it isn't done through random human mutationsIt is from gene transfer from bacteria and such.And, they have already weeded out the bad mutations and kept the good by the time it gets to usSo, you get cool stuff like lactaseIt is basically "smart" evolution
>>543424158>existence of an immaterial God almost inevitable.For evolution to exist the base materials and the energy for them to mix needs to exist. Nothing comes out of nothing so Where did it all come from ?Therefore THE CREATOR EXISTS !!!Without Begining and without End.Also God can be The Source of His Own Existence.
>>543433448nah man a foreskin eating invisible jew spawned you on earth so you mutilate your dick and do what jews say and be a poorfag loser in this world so you totally get rewarded in the fictional afterlife. proof: it was revealed to some schizo jew
>>543424158>god must be real he must be>otherwise why would my father let the jude priest-sama rape my asshole
>>543433501>Nothingthe state of "nothing" doesnt exist and the universe is infinite and eternal.so the universe didnt have to come from anywhere or needed to be created.
>>543424158Evolution is just the means by which god changes the living creations of the physical world. He can't act against the physical rules he set for our reality. Even if god wasn't real, spiritual warfare is real anyway. If people aren't outright influenced by demonic or evil forces, they manifest essentially the same effect by living ignoble lives and compromising their own morality often enough.
>>543433212I already disproved both of your statementsGod NEVER commanded circumcision, the "LORD" of the Old Testament (satan/the devil) did.
>>543433193Imagine>You believe that when I put fuel in my car it runs >You know this because I have a general understanding of how cars and combustion works>At the same time you also belive that when you fuel up, there's a bunch of car goblins who drink the gas, cus gas makes car goblins drunk, and the only way car goblins will get on their bikes that drive the wheels is if they are drunkSo you have a completely logical explanation vs one that makes zero fucking sense, yet you choose to believe both?
>>543433404"somewhat" is the key wordif u use language to communicate ur thoughts, u qlready believe that ur mind is reliable enough to put conjure stmbols that represent something about reality and structur them in a way that communicates ur thoughts to another mindlogically, either u believe that ur mind is capable of recognizing truth via consistency, or ur mind is utterly incapable of knowing any objective truth at allif u subscribe to evolution, the latter is ur position yet, despite their position, they still live and operate as if their mind is somewhat reliableits bc they hold an untenable position, so they borrow capital from whats really going on, which is that ur mind actually is somewhat reliable, due to the way logos is embedded in all of this reality called creation
>>543432074>Life builds up from simple single cell organismsWhete did the single cell organism come from? Di it appear ex nihilo?Nothing comes out of nothing.
>>543433661>The sacred texts were wrong>so we had to change them>But these new sacred texts are totally real>Please, you MUST worship the king of the JewsSo which is it krout? Were you molested as a child, or are you just autistic?
>all these copes and denials that you're basically pond scumRmao
>>543433287When modeling the interactions between ordinary, visible matter (which might or might not be 100% of all existing matter, probably the latter or tending into this direction), you need to use not just gravity but also plasma effects because 99.9% of visible matter is plasma. In the link there's enough circumstancial evidence to conclude that this is true.
>>543433645See here >>543433694
>>543432255>Religion requires faithand Logic.
>>543433694Focus back on what we were talking about:>We were artificially created and then left to evolve.What's the contradiction in this, as in why can't both be true? Forget cars and goblins.
>>543424158If Evolution ist fake, how cone weed gets stronger every day?
>>543427996Darwinism and evolution are not the same thing nigger monkey
muh heckin chaparinos
>>543433823I don't really see the issue and reading your blog didn't help much.
>>543433856>weedYou mean the second image?You need plasma cosmology/electric universe theory (i.e, the truth) to understand the meaning of the New Testament and how the problem will be solvedLuke 21:25-28, Luke 21:33
>>543433661religion is a waste of time regardless of that and all the rituals are also a waste of time.men wasted trillions of hours on this nonsense.>>543433750>Whete did the single cell organism come from?Its quite simple if you stop looking at life as a biological anomaly and start seeing it as a thermodynamic necessity. according to non equilibrium thermodynamics the universe is essentially a massive engine driving toward entropy by creating dissipative structures.these structures emerge wherever there is a potent energy gradient, they absorb energy from their environment and organize themselves into complex patterns specifically to accelerate the dissipation of that energy.also this isnt just limited to biology, it follows the same fractal logic seen in plasma cosmology.just as plasma filaments self organize into galactic structures via electromagnetic forces matter organizes itself into increasingly complex tiers to process energy gradients.So basically Life is simply the ultimate dissipative structure.it starts with high energy chemical precursors, like amino acids formed within localized electrochemical gradients. the progression from primordial fermentation to aerobic respiration is just the system upgrading its hardware to exploit new higher potential energy sources (like oxygen).also adaptation can be much more rapid as it is driven by massive fluctuations in the Earth's magnetosphere.
>>543433307Except you again run into the same issue.You are claiming that they must have evolved before DNA and then after allowed DNA to perform stable splits.Except the theory of evelution falls apart there, becuase why would these enzymes just randomly happen to form the exact mutations and or process needed explicitly to facilitate the replication of DNR and RNA? That odds of that happening are so astronomically slim that the only explanation for it would be fraud IE an outside influence. That is basically what i was saying earlier, it would be like someone creating a hammer before they even knew what they needed to use a hammer for.
>>543433998>You need plasma cosmology/electric universe theory (i.e, the truth) to understand the meaning of the New Testamentplasma cosmology disagrees with your idea of an invisible circumciser jew god tho.
>>543433750>expermints as far back as the 50's showing abiogenesis >Science at least tries to explain how things are and how we got here vs>My sky daddy with zero evidence was actually responsable! >Nothing can't come from something! >Who made god...>STFUYOULIBRALSCIENCEISTHENEWRELIGIONITTAKESJUSTASMUCHFAITHTOBELIVEINSCINECETHENRGODYOUWILLBURNINHELLSTFU!
>>543433230Did God tell you that? Perhaps you read it on some gold tablets you dug out of the ground and kept in a hat.
>>543424158NOVA Season 53 Episode 04
>>543433846I never said it's not imposable for them to both be true, I said that it's retarded to believe in both. You want to believe in something that's unfalsifiable go right ahead.
>>543424158if you studied the DNA mechanism in STEM there is no doubt its an intelligent construction by an intelligent creator. its to perfect to come into existence by chance or "evolution".the reality is quite to the contrary, humanity has devolved over time, humans lived for hundreds of years when the DNA was less corrupted.
>>543433856>selective breeding is the same thing as a fish suddenly growing a pair of lungs!You're an idiot.
>>543432074>doesnt understand Life builds up from simple single cell organisms and becomes more complex over timemay we see the evidence of this in nature?
>>543433219Jfc, see >>543433255
>>543434350see >>543433001
>>543433212I bet you didnt even study STEM and are held captive in the mindset you were educated (brainwashed) into.
>>543434350Why do flowers exist?
>>543425398The Earth is unironically flat and the elites know that. They push the spinning ball fantasy on us to detach us from the creator but they still put hints in media.Only a fool would deny his own senses.
>>543434268Which are you referring to as unfalsifiable, creation or evolution? And why do you think it's unfalsifiable?
>>543433001>changes DNA/RNAbut it cant create DNA/RNA because it needs nucleotide to connect in highly specific way. an electromagnetic discharge cant produce that since it has no intelligence to create complex constructs.>we cant>we cantand thus your theory falls into the gutter.
>>543434437because God created them that way.see pic rel. no flower can intelligently decide to look like a bee for it to replicate since the flower has no eyes or brain.only a being that knows what bees are and what they look like can create a flower that corresponds to that creature.
>>543434611>but it cant create DNA/RNAit develops from the ground up from simpler precursors, it doesnt spawn already finished.> since it has no intelligence to create complex constructs.no intelligence is needed for this process, see >>543434015no jew god needed at any step for this.
>>543434465Take a guess>>543434705>no flower can intelligently decide to look like a beeLiterally no one has ever argued this.>because God created them that wayWhy?
>>543434786>it develops from the ground up from simpler precursorsmolecules dont simply form into a working mechanism. that defies all logic.>>543434015your assumption breaks the law of thermodynamics, the law of entropy.the natural state is that of disorder, not order.
>>543434845I guess the latter in regard to my first question. As to why I guess that you don't understand evolution. Am I wrong?
>>543434845because he is a magnificent creator God. just as we humans like to create, so does God, because we inherited that trait from him.he just creates on a scale infathomable to us.
>>543424158The Theory of Evolution is the result of millions of physical bits of evidence, analysis and results arrived at by the scientific method. There is no undoing this. At best you can hope to slightly modify our current understanding of evolution with extremely minor tweaks. Religious retards hope that if they can convince all the other retards that if evolution should somehow be called into question, it somehow rationalizes their irrational beliefs in supernatural beings. It only serves to prove that they cannot discern fact from fiction.
>>543434954>molecules dont simply form into a working mechanismI already explained the process.>>543434954>your assumption breaks the law of thermodynamicsno it doesnt, look up non equilibrium thermodynamics.also learn how to read good.
>>543434954>muh thermodynamics!Jfc! See >>543433255
>>543435002How do you know any of this?
>>543433601>universe is infinite and eternal.>so the universe didnt have to come from anywhere or needed to be created.WrongThe universe is material. It can NOT be eternal or infinite therefore it needed ro be created.>state of nothingWhay is vacuum?
>>543435229>The universe is materialyou mean Hydrogen and Helium? yes these are the basic building blocks from which everything is made of.they dont require a jew god to climb up the alpha ladder or for the r-process or the s-process.>It can NOT be eternal or infiniteand yet it is and the big Bang theory made by a retarded jew loving moron didnt hold up.>Whay is vacuum?space isnt a vacuum.
Evolution is true because of race science. Also something can't come from nothing, which means there always must be an infinite something (christcucks really seethe about this one).
>>543424158>Because if evolution is just another lie,Even if it were incorrect, that doesn't make it a lie so much as an honest mistake. People can be mistaken about how the universe works. That said, if you can't understand the principle of evolution, then you are a dullard. Mutations occur, this is plainly observed. Some mutations are advantageous, some neutral, most are deleterious... this is also plainly observed. Mutations are passed down to offspring. This is also plainly observed. Advantageous genetics accrue.What about that is incorrect, or deceptive?>If evolution is fake, everything changes. This means the immaterial realm is real, non-biological entities ("angels") are realThat's a hell of a non sequitur. No, those things don't follow, not even if "evolution is fake". Someone being wrong about a point of argument doesn't mean you're correct on that same point. Both can be wrong.
>>543435412>>543435474kinda interesting that the same people who fall for the schizo religion jew nonsense are also the same people who get mentally raped the most by AI psychosis.
>>543435474>Some mutations are advantageous, some neutral, most are deleteriousI would say most are neutral actually
>>543424158>this makes the existence of an immaterial God almost inevitable.Why only one? What if we were created by aliens from another dimension or universe instead of something divine? What if the universe is a projection of human will, making humans the creators?
>>543434098>expermints May we see them?Lemme guess they needed energy. Where did the energy come from?>>Science at least tries to explain how things are and how we got hereSo does Religion and it does a better job than Science which starts from false premise to prove another falsehood.Nothing can come from Nothing.It's common sense and it's proven mathematical - try dividing zero!GOD is without Begining and without End!Hence the Mobius Strip picrel in my previous post which you completely bypassed.And again it is common sense - something idiots - not an insult but a fact - like you severely lack.
>>543433255>>543435133>hurr you cant use the 2nd law of thermodynamicsif you own system proves itself wrong then thats just proof it cant hold up to reality.
>>543435179because creation alone is the evidence of the creator God.
>>543435914non equilibrium thermodynamics describe reality better than your fake jew slave religion.
>>543434097>invisible circumciser jew godGOD is not necesarily what judaism says it is. But you're so fixated against Christianity that you fail to graso the bigger picture as it is typical to indoctrinated individuals i.e. low iq people.
>>543435944clearly no jew god is needed for this process. so "creation"/Life doesnt need a creator.since plasma is also self organizing, and if you accept the plasma cosmology (which you claim you do) you basically agree with me and your jew god is fake and gay.
>>543435875>Miller-Urey experiment>Where did the energy come fromThis isn't a gotchya >it does a better job than ScienceLol>Science which starts from false premise to prove another falsehoodLiterally the opposite of reality. >Nothing can come from Nothing.Where did god come from?
>>543435652>are also the same people who get mentally raped the most by AI psychosis.I didn't use AI for my post. This didn't require me to look up anything, except the spelling for "deleterious". Don't type that one out much. I've known and understood all of this since high school, if not before, I graduated in 1993. Maybe you're just mentally retarded. Are you a nigger?
>>543436045>GOD is not necesarily what judaism says it is.all the other religions are wrong about it too. no god of any kind is needed in this universe for any process.
>>543434845>Why?Go ask Him personally if you're too idiotic to use the brain He gave you to figure it out for yourself and be amazed in wonder as you should.
>>543436193>I didn't use AI for my post. I meant people such as OP to who you were replying to who is clearly mind raped by jew religion and mind raped by AI (the OP pic is an AI screenshot).
>>543436142>so "creation"/Life doesnt need a creatorConservation of Energy: Energy cannot be created or destroyed; it only changes from one form to another.nice bullshit theory you got going there that breaks your own laws.>you basically agree with me and your jew god is fake and gay.no, because God created the electromagnetic universe with his Word in a medium. my logic doesnt break the laws of physics, yours do. thus you are the schizo here.
>to disprove one of the most studied and well understood scientific theory's to ever exist, I shall completely misunderstand an element from a completely different scientific theory, but nevertheless 100% believe it.Pls kys.
>if theory isn't 100% perfect...>my kike desert fairytales are true!i fucking hate nigger minded christcucks like you wouldn't believe.
>>543435944>creation alone is the evidence of the creatorHow?
>mutt infighting thread
>>543424158Has anyone mentioned aliens yet? If there are/is (an) intelligent designer(s) of our existence, chances are it's aliens of some sort, not some singular "god". There's no reason to assume our creator is the root creator of all creation, or it was one being working by itself, nothing in nature works that way. There's no reason to assume they are benevolent nor smarter nor more powerful than us. Look humanity now, creating AI that is on its way to be way smarter and powerful than us.
>>543436471because something cant come out of nothing. law of conservation of Energy.
>>543436385>nice bullshit theorynon equilibrium thermodynamics isnt bullshit and explains everything without the need for a jew god. we can also observe this everywhere in the universe.>because God created the electromagnetic universeit didnt need to be created since it is infinite.again, at no step is a God needed for this process.>my logic doesnt break the laws of physicsyou dont have all the physics and the ones you have you dont understand so you fill the gaps with religious nonsense.>thus you are the schizo here.nope
>>543436546>law of conservation of Energy.Why does god have to follow this?>because something cant come out of nothingWhere did god come from?
>>543432460I didn't say anything about god.
>>543435373>yes these are the basic building blocks from which everything is made of.So where did they come from?How did they appear?>they dont require a jew god to climb up the alpha ladder or for the r-process or the s-process.GOD is not necessarily jewish but GOD is The CREATOR without Begining and without End! Everything MUST have a SOURCE!>>It can NOT be eternal or infinite>and yet it is Okay prove it! Logic says otherwise.Everything material is finite.>>Whay is vacuum?>space isnt a vacuum.Nobody said that. Stop deflecting.Vacuum is NOTHING and NOTHING exists as opposed to your claim.And now that you deflected to space please enlighten us - what is space?
there are many lowercase letter g gods, but only one big G Godjust as there are many Angels and "demons" or shedim.you can invocate the small ones or angels if you know how, im not going to tell you howone such small letter g god is the god of the canaanite multiplanetarian mafia, jabulon, molekh, baal hadad, samael, shaitan, it doesnt matter what you call them its all the same consciousness egregore entity, parasitic and foreign to this planet (h)earth. some even have dared to make the connection that it is actually the demiurge, yaldebaoth whom the so called yids/canaanites are praying to, since he is the architect of the materialistic counsciousness matrix grid, so they say. as he can make them steal the oil from the goyim without consequences for them.the big letter G God is probably the unknown one, The Prime Source Creator God, some say consciousness itself but i see that only as a telephone call.evolution is just a theory and that theory needs Time to be real, but time, cronos is fucking fake AF, time doesnt exist, there is only duration/eternity. by this mere simple logic evolution is already fake. but its a neat and cute concept which can explain a few things, limitedly
>>543435652Kek you used AI in your op you fucking numbnut.
>>543432460I said artificially created. That implies a creator, not a god.
If you score over 120 iq the "question" of whether evolution is "real" never occurs to youIt's mathematical statistical certainly that self demonstratesIf you possess under 120 IQ, you do not really have thoughts. >Proof that evolution is impossible is someone rambling in for paragraphs about the concept of a factorialLol
>>543436619>you dont have all the physicsmy man, physics is build on the theory that atoms are particles, which they are not. this invalidates modern physics and they have to come up with bullshit like dark matter and dark energy to make bs like gravity work.investing any time into that is a waste of existence.>>543436641God always was. he wants to share his glory with his creation and to interact with it.he is God, he can do whatever he wants.
>>543435412>(christcucks really seethe about this one).Uhm...NO? On the contrary that's what most Religions say - There's gotta to be a Source, a Prime Mover - GOD ALLMIGHTY ALLKNOWING without Begining and without End - THE CREATOR.
>>543436702>So where did they come from?it didnt need to come from anywhere.>without Begining and without Endthe universe has no beginning and no end. no god is needed for this.>Okay prove it!the Big Bang theory failed. they essentially tried to prove that the universe is finite and couldnt do it. all the data points towards the universe being infinite.>Everything material is finite.no its not, it just gets recycled forever.the universe is an open system, not a closed one that decays.>Vacuum is NOTHINGthats still something.>what is space?plasma
>>543435474>Even if it were incorrect, that doesn't make it a lieIt does!And only midwits fell for it.
>>543436850Post skin and eye color
>>543436756I'm not OP and been arguing against him the entire time, do you know how ID's work you numbnut?
>>543436769>I said artificially created.it doesnt need to be "artificially" created, the universe already has everything it needs to make it on its own.
>>543436816>God always wasSee >>543436546>because something cant come out of nothing>atoms are particles>invalidates modern physicsHow?
>>543436736You fucking moron. That photo of Darwin is a digital edit. It’s not real.
>>543437032he was a freemason nonetheless.
>>543436816>doesnt know about the geometric model of the atomic nucleus
>>543437098Yes he was a member of a gentlemen’s club in Victorian England era WOOOOOW. What a fucking sensation!
>>543436975I meant us, not the universe.
>>543424693Yes, it can
>>543437171you are not some separate thing from the universe.
>>543437023>because something cant come out of nothingif God always was then he didnt come out of nothing.>How?because atoms are electromagnetic charges.>>543437105>geometric model>but electrons behave like waves/a cloud
>>543437165Young man I wasted a lot of time in my life You get a dopamine burst for telling some "the demons the freemasons!" Guy he's an idiot and wrong, but where does that really take you?Do me a favor and just ignore them for your own sake. You aren't ever going to reach anyone like that, or most people in general
>>543424158i just dont see how it isnt true
>>543436170>Where did the energy come from>This isn't a gotchyaWell, where did the energy come from if isn't?>>it does a better job than Science>LolLol's on you>>Science which starts from false premise to prove another falsehood>Literally the opposite of reality.Literally exactly that which proves scientists are liars so untrustworthy.>>Nothing can come from Nothing.>Where did god come from?Read my post - I already told you once but you keep ignoring the answer and keep repeating the question like a midwit>GOD is without Begining and without End!Can you grasp the concept or do you need addtional explanations?
>>543436736>there are many lowercase letter g gods, but only one big G GodNo. I study theology a bit too, and this is simply wrong.When you say "God" with the uppercase G, what you're really doing is just abiding another jewish taboo... their refusal to use the god's name. But, I think, this isn't so much taboo as it is strategy: in failing to use a proper name, they can keep it ambiguous which god they are worshipping. They can even worship one god this week, and another the next, and no one can call them out. They can fool the other jews who aren't in on the scam... maybe the rabi's talking about another god entirely, when they think it's Yahweh.It's dishonest and pointless to talk about religion unless you're willing to name the deity in question.
>>543437165lol who paid you to defend him? weird shill angle>>543437249neither am i an idiot, nor am i wrong. do go on and factually objectively disprove what i said, for class to see.oh wait, you cant, you wasted a lot of time and are old and tired. sux to suck
>>543424158anyone who believes we are a product of chance will have difficulties climbing the ladder of enlightenment
If you were just to make a judgement call on how the earth looks, whether or not there is a god. The verdict would be no, the planet looks like there is no god.It LOOKS like we evolvedAnd your religion LOOKS like it was made up by iron age peasants to explain shit they didn't understand. Everything's just easier when you say magic sky daddy did it, but it doesn't look like that's what happened.
>>543437231>but electrons behave like waves/a cloudwrong interpretation, since once again, you dont have the physics (you were mindraped by jews).basically the Standard Model says the electron is a probability wave, and the pattern is the square of the wavefunction and the electron has no definite trajectory or position until measured.but how it actually works: the electron is a real, extended object with a finite "sphere of influence".Its "wave" like behavior is a consequence of its EXTENT and its GEOMETRIC INTERACTION with the nucleus and with other matter.
>>543437388read the rest of my post. i literally adressed that aka unknown one.no reading comprehension, just calling me an idiotim really done talking with you profane niggers. pearls b4 the swine and all thatstay ignorant then. its ur choice
>>543436170>Miller-Urey experimentIt is seen as one of the first successful experiments demonstrating the synthesis of organic compounds from inorganic constituentsWhere did the inotganic constituents come from? Who created them ?Also Religion - God created Man from dirt. I'mma gonna go out on a limb here and say dirt was pretty inorganic.The experiment proved nothing Religion didn't adress by that time. Alsothe Main Question continues to go unanswered by Science?WHERE DID IT ALL COME FROM?
>>543437477>more mental gymnastics to justify his failed system
>>543424158Giving the AI glazing machine to schizo conspiratards was a mistake
I believe on God only because Jews are so inherently Satanic that their behaviour has convinced me that Satan is real, and therefore God must be real too.
>>543437477>World view is based on things needing to be simpler for you to understand Shocking
>>543437521>no reading comprehensionI have sufficient reading comprehension. I just choose not to read stupid shit, especially in its nigger-brained wall-of-text form. You are mildly schizophrenic and need medication desperately.
>>543424337I don't feel like scrolling through a site that probably fails to deliver what you claim it does.Every time I read through such a site, it invariably is flawed arguments and Christian apologism
>>543424158Why are you arguing in absolutes?I believe evolution is real but I'm a buddhist, I live a spiritual life.I also believe that determinism is real.
>>543437277you think something like a sloth would evolve in a competitive environment and survive for millions of years?
>>543437596nope.>>543437635>things needing to be simplermore like the failed jewish standard theory is nonsense and there is a better more functional model out there.
>>543437659It contains no theological, only logical argumentsFor example, with linear length increase of amino acid chains, the probability to get it by chance decreases exponentially. For normal proteins you can argue that there's another explanation, but not for orphan proteins who don't have a detectable evolutionary history (gradual lengthening cannot possibly apply).Interdependent systems (irreducible complexity) is another point that evolution simply cannot explain.
>>543436546>because something cant come out of nothing.And yet, at some point, it did.Everything has a cause.Every cause only came about because of its own cause.This is one of the most unavoidable laws of reality.Go back far enough, and you're eventually going to find a first cause.What caused the first cause? Nothing. That can only mean one thing.>the first cause had some quality that precluded it from needing a causeEvery question of religion, science, and philosophy ultimately boils down to one question: What is/was the first cause?The answer doesn't even really matter, because someone is just going to ask what came before the first cause. Even if you KNOW the answer, your order-seeking brain is still going to ask 'Okay but there had to be something before that too, right?' We have no way of knowing because we have no way of learning such a thing.All we can do is keep trying. It kind of sucks, but it is what it is.
>>543437774yes
>>543436222>no god of any kind is needed in this universe for any process.Ye it is. Bc otherwise you can not answer that simple question? WHERE DID IT ALL CAME FROM?otherwise said How did Matter Appear?Not memtion Energy and Rules for >any process.You talk like a dogmatic which shows indoctrination. You don't know how and if science works but you chose to believe it out of sheer spite and rebellion against The Creator - your Creator.The explanation given by psychology for your kind of people is weak mental capability - you fear you're not in control of yourself or your life. Guess what? You're not!
>>543437760The math isn't mathing for macro-evolutionMicro-"evolution" is real, but this isn't evolution, just drift of already existing compatible components. Nothing new is created here, only composition changes.
>>543429266Who told you this retarded shit?Genetics strengthens the case for evolution beyond reasonable doubt..
>>543437983or, hear me out, we simply believe what God told us about creation himself. crazy, right?
>>543438044Ok, do all that math live on stream on paper without stopping to reference anything. Show where it's wrongYou are repeating something you read. It's hard to make you understand that you're not a real living thing; that you do not have thoughts.
>>543433533You are the only pussy that you will ever know
>>543438044math only doesn't math when you approach it with the math-brained assumption there is only one solution. "protein A does function B and the chance of protein A is only N" is irrelevant, because evolution did not need to find protein A specifically, it could have found hundreds or thousands of other proteins that also perform function B or it could have found a different function than B entirely. it just happened to find protein A for function B
>>543438044Micro feeds into macro. Panta rhei.
>>543438215you mean what humans, pretending to be God, wrote, which you unquestioningly believe, for some bizarre reason
>>543424158Moses never existed, yet your dead rabbi claimed Moses "prophecized" his birth. It's impossible to get lost in the road to Canaan was clear from Egypt. There was no getting lost in the Sinai desert of Arabia. There was a trade route from Egypt to the coastal cities of Canaan. The narrative device, a god keeping someone lost for years because the hero anger3d them, was stolen from the Odyssey. Because the torah was 'compiled' in the Hellenistic Period.The torah / old testament is judeo-supremacist historical fiction. Egypt never enslaved 'Israelites', there was never an 'Exodus'. There was no monotheistic yahwehist kingdom in Judea prior to the Persian Intervention. Yahweh started as a storm and war god in a pantheon, with a consort.The kikes came to Egypt as the Hyksos: parasites. They immigrated until they took over as a dynasty, until the natives had enough if their shit and deposed them. Exactly the opposite of the biblical bullshit narrative.
>>543437957>Interdependent systems (irreducible complexity) is another point that evolution simply cannot explain.All that is required are genetic mechanisms that "bank" mutations, and once a sufficient quantity are banked, expresses them all simultaneously. The basic mechanisms required to implement such are extant... epigenetics through methylation. There are any number of other mechanisms that amplify a given genetic trait, either from generation to generation, or even x1000ing it all at once. Pretty fucking easy to skip the intermediate steps. While this should be in practice exceedingly rare, the process has been occurring for millions and even billions of years, more than enough time for unlikely coincidences.
The Protocols explicitly mentions spreading "Darwinism" to the goyim to corrupt them and separate them from religion. Christianity specifically.>inb4 The Protocols are fake!Guess what you sound like? A Jew.
>>543437999>WHERE DID IT ALL CAME FROM?it doesnt need to come from anywhere, its infinite and eternal. apparently these are concepts you are unable to grasp for some reason.>otherwise said How did Matter Appear?starting from a single proton (H-1) the nucleus grows by sequentially adding proton electron pairs (PEPs) or whole deuterons. Beta minus decay converts excess PEPs into deuterons, advancing the element number.also the arrangement follows the principle of spherical dense packing, producing specific, stable geometric structures for each nuclide and basically all the macro effects we observe emerge from this.>You don't know how and if science worksactually I know very well how it works. this is why I reject your fake religion and fake gods.they simply dont fit into what we actually observe and there is literally no process that requires it at any step.
>>543437401I happily defend Darwin and his theory for free. Why is that strange? Is someone paying you for shilling Jewish christcuck fantasies?
>>5434380711. Given an amino acid length of 150, there are 20^150 mathematically possible combination (20 different aa's). What's the estimate for how many of these combinations will be biologically useful? (for simple ATP-bindings 1:10^12, for more complex enzymatic functions 1:10^64). Even if you accept the argument that gradual lengthening can explain this and that not all combinations are chemically likely, you still end up with impossibly small probabilities (orphan genes are the smoking gun, but that's explained in the article). And there's so much more.>>543438272Yes. But the odds for this matter. There can be trillions of candidates for the same function. The search space can still be impossibly spare.1:10^64 is impossibly spare.
>>543436619>>543436619>non equilibrium thermodynamics isnt bullshit It isn't. Energy transforms. But it can neither be created or destroyed in this material system. God can Create and Destroy Energy>and explains everything without the need for a jew god. You have an unhealthy obssesion with specifically the jew God- I'm assuming you mean Christ not YHWH. Get over it!We are talking about THE CREATOR. Name Him like that if it makes you feel any better.>we can also observe this everywhere in the universe.You need an eye /brain doctor visit.Your observation capabilities are subpar.>>because God created the electromagnetic universe>it didnt need to be created since it is infinite.Lies. Universe is material therefore it is finite and it needs to be created. How did Universe occur? Even if was infinite, how did it come into existence since nothingness does EXIST as proven by the existence of vacuum!>again, at no step is a God needed for this process.Again you need GOD at all steps starting with the most important ORIGIN of MATTER and ENERGY.>>my logic doesnt break the laws of physics>you dont have all the physics and the ones you have you dont understand so you fill the gaps with religious nonsense.All the physics? Are those physics in here with us right now? Religion makes a whole lot more sense than your incoherent atheist indoctrination babble. In fact Religion makes the most sense. What explains this and that? GOD. Carry on, enjoy and marvel at His work!>>thus you are the schizo here.>nopeYep
>>543438640See>>543438529
>>543438440God told Moses directly on Mount Sinai who then penned it down.
>>543438529correct, and darwinism leads to social darwinism social darwinism does not only corrupt the goyim it justifies evil actions. such as killing the poor. but nature is symbiotic, even trees share their nutrients to keep a stump alive
>>543424337>whoever has ears let them hearwow ableist much
>>543438672>God can Create and Destroy EnergyGod isnt real so no he cant create or destroy energy.>We are talking about THE CREATOR.no creator is needed for literally anything.>You need an eye /brain doctor visit.nope>Your observation capabilities are subpar.not my problem you are retarded.>Universe is material therefore it is finitethat doesnt even make any sense.>Even if was infinite, how did it come into existenceits infinite, there is no beginning.>since nothingness does EXISTnope.>proven by the existence of vacuumthats still something and it is not proof that absolute nothingness exists.>Again you need GOD at all stepsno you dont.>Are those physics in here with us right now?yes I been explaining them for many posts now.also are you pajeet? what is the color of your skin, I'm curious.
>>543438490I don't believe in the OT. Only the NT.https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1790616719533289.jpg>>543438519Billions of years are not enough time. The odds are way too small.>>543438777Kek
>>543424158No, it only proves that eternal life on protein basis is impossible. At some point the decay surpass the repair mechanism and you start decaying. This is the reason why we die mate.
>>543438927Please see:>>543438529
>>543438657You arguments immediately fall apart when you demonstrate A) you do not understand biochemical selection pressure, Amino acids do not randomly assemble with equal probabilities and B) you do not realise that "orphan" genes only refers to genes which are orphaned in extant samples, when the overwhelming majority of all proteins across evolutionary history are extinct
>>543436641>>law of conservation of Energy.>Why does god have to follow this?Bc it is His Law moron>>because something cant come out of nothing>Where did god come from?Now you're just being retarded - GOD IS WITHOUT BEGINING and WITHOUT END!i.e. GOD does not come from anywhere HE EXISTS ETERNALLY ! AlsoInfinity is something which is boundless, limitless, or endless something the universe itis not and cannot be since it is governed by laws of physics. It is denoted by ∞, called the infinity symbol.
>>543439021Anon, he can't understand the things you're saying.
>>543438990all religions are nonsense and getting rid of it should be humanities top priority.yes this also includes jews and freemason cucks.
>>543438215If God tells me what He wants Himself then I'd probably listen. The issue comes from that He didn't. A book told me. That same book has been translated and reprinted countless times, which becomes a problem when you remember that the book itself explicitly tells us that God is unknowable and any representation of the Word of God by man is invariably not 100% correct because man is a creature of sin and there's going to be countless false prophets, deceivers, and demons twisting every other verse out of context to get you to acquiesce to their temptations.The 'first cause' argument is a simple logical argument. It's so simple, it's practically math. Everything is happening in sequence. What was Thing #1 in the sequence? It's simple enough for a child to grasp, but we've been trying and failing to answer it for millennia. All we can say with any degree of certainty is that it gives us hope, that there's something more to the Universe than 'just' what we can see around us. We both know what a society without a higher calling can - and has - become.
>>543424158Wtf! Evolution is fake! I now believe in jewish sky god
>>543439158The Protocols also mention weaponizing atheism against the "goy".Any other rebuttals?
>>543439147I know, but styling on retards is one of the few perks of having a PhD
>>543439232see>>543438529
>>543424158> whether evolution is realIt's a theory that can never be falsified.For this reason it's not even a "scientific" theory in the strict sense.Popper called it a metaphysical research program. It's only valuable as such but the value is immense..
>>543439158A very bad take. Religion is important to give sense to many life's. Without religion chaos erupts and we become savages. Understanding biological concepts does not deny the existence of spiritual power. What humans did with it to gain power is a different story. But overall religion brings progress in human development.
>>543438956Well that's a problem because your dead rabbi specifically said Moses foretold his coming.
>>543439275basically religious jews make psyops about "weaponizing atheism" to get more retards to join their controlled slave religions.
>>543439066>Something can't come from nothing>GOD does not come from anywhereYou insist absolutely everything must follow this rule, except one thing that is above the rule. You're engaged in special pleading, and no one has any reason to take you seriously
>>543439319Ah yes Karl Popper the anti-Christian Jew. Totally trustworthy! Nice.lol
>>543439320>A very bad take. not really.>Religion is important to give sense to many life's.if you need religion to give your life sense you arent fit enough for living.>Without religion chaos erupts and we become savagesnot really.>progress in human developmentcan be achieved without mutilating your dick and believing in magical sky jew.
>>543438762Yes it’s evil to improve the genetic quality of your people. We should become slaves of the Jews instead. Be a good goyim! Don’t compete! Be a slave!
>>543439219so the only book that survived the test of time, destructions, famines, persecutions, etc to this day, which no other book in the world managed, totally preserved is not the divine Word of God in his own creation?I mean, he would have a stake in preserving it himself, you know?> the book itself explicitly tells us that God is unknowable the Word was given so we know the nature and Will of God.>there's going to be countless false prophets, deceivers, and demons twisting every other verse out of context to get you to acquiesce to their temptationsand yet, the Word prevails throughout all time, no many how many adversaries want to corrupt and eradicate it.the existence of the bible alone in this chaotic world full of corruption and lies should be proof enough that God is the supreme sovereign over creation.
>>543439393Not even religious, it's genetic for them. Like cuckoo birds.
>>543439021>selection pressureNot strong enough plus can't bootstrap biosystems and can't explain irreducible complexity>Amino acids do not randomly assemble with equal probabilitiesIt's shown in the text that this doesn't even matter. Even if there were only two amino acids instead of 20, odds for the demonstration object (orphan gene) would still be 2^150. These numbers are so big that it's irrelevant whether it's 2^150 or 20^150>you do not realise that "orphan" genes only refers to genes which are orphaned in extant samples, when the overwhelming majority of all proteins across evolutionary history are extinctSpecies that (according to conventional """wisdom""") separated very recently (a few millions years ago, like apes/"""common ancestor""" apeling and humans) still have orphan genes. A trillion years wouldn't be enough for them to appear, considering statistical odds. Clearly something different happened.
>>543424337DNA can replicate without the machines. I use single enzymes to do it all the time. And you don't need repair, if you're willing to tolerate mass death like a bacteria.
>>543439515The Big Book of Kikery was 'compiled' in the Hellenistic Period. >>543438490
>>543439315You are right, i Will now cut off my foreskin to please the jewish sky daddy
>>543424158Let me guess. You believe in Jesus Christ and that the world is roughly 10000 years old.Have you considered how awesome plant biology is with evolution being true and how there are wood types related to berries and flowers? And that wood evolved independently at least twice which is why we have softwoods and hardwoods?
>>543438956>Billions of years are not enough time.Clearly they are. Or possibly, the age of the universe is estimated incorrectly. Positing Zeus and Jehovah as a better theory is just stupid. You're a good example that people can't make rational conclusions based on evidence, because the vast majority of people are too dimwitted to even know what evidence is. You argue by regurgitating talking points that you've never contemplated. Doing so might endanger your capacity to feel as if you have special insight into anything important.
>>543439393lmao what a cope lolJews curse Christ on a daily basis and consider Christianity their main enemy (as mentioned in the Protocols). But yeah let's convince MORE people to convert. lmao cope much? Are you homosexual by any chance? Do you like cringe metal music and wacking off to porn? Don't like Christianity because it clashes with this stuff? Agenda much?
>>543439624>The torah / old testament is judeo-supremacist historical fiction.
>>543439275If the protocols promoted Christianity as useful to them, would you turn your back on Jesus?
>>543436890>>So where did they come from?>it didnt need to come from anywhere.Yes it did. Matter ca. Not aimply exist witbout a cause>>without Begining and without End>the universe has no beginning and no end. no god is needed for this.The Universe has a begining and an end since it is material i.e. made of matter.GOD - THE CREATOR IS NECESSARILY NEEDED FOR ANYTHING TO EXIST!>>Okay prove it!>the Big Bang theory failed. they essentially tried to prove that the universe is finite and couldnt do it. all the data points towards the universe being infinite.I asked you to prove not to tell me what failed and to make a generic claim in return. All the data. - which data is that? Who gathered it, by what methods? How was it quantified, how was it checked? How was it PROVEN? Hypothesis are not data. Logic on the otheris a process that can lead to TRUTH without the need for "data".>>Everything material is finite.>no its not, it just gets recycled forever.No it's not. It will decay eventually.>the universe is an open system, not a closed one that decays.If it is open then Creation must occur.How are things Created and WHO Creates them?>>Vacuum is NOTHING>thats still something.No it's not. Vacuum literally means NOTHING i.e. VOID>>what is space?>plasmaLiar. Here's your fucking science:Outer space, or simply space, is the expanse that exists beyond Earth's atmosphere and between celestial bodies.[1] It contains ultra-low levels of particle densities, constituting a near-perfect vacuum[2] . Are you schizo or just shitposting for the bantz?
>>543439629Christians also prohibited circumcison for over 1500 years. Viewing it as a kike custom. Don't you have some black metal face paint to put on while you listen to garbage Finn bands? And scream in the woods like a fairy? /pol/ is for men 21 and up.
>>543424158Even if evolution is real, you can theorize the unmoved mover and be a Deist. What you can't justify is the deluge or half the crap written in the OT no matter how much mental gymnastics you're willing to perform.
>>543439540Far smarter people than you have proven repeatedly that it is possible. I have given you sufficient keywords that you could peruse pubmed for hours on the topic (actual studies, not some dumass on stackexchange which uses an actual 4chan screenshot as part of his evicence). Simply repeating "NUH UH NUMBER BIG" does not an argument make.
>>543439663Praise the Holy Prepuce!
>>543439481life is about growing your soul through experience, not by getting better physical bodieswe could all live in peace on earth if it wasn't for a certain group that causes strife amongst the people
>>543439450Your opinion without any historical evidence, is only a empty claim. Jews suck, but jews drinking water doesn't make water bad. Take it as you like.
>>543436907>Post skin and eye colorWhiter than you mutt
>>543439432> Totally trustworthy!You only need trust if you lack brains.
>>543439837Your religion sucks because it mandates marriage and pointlessly antagonizes faggots. That alone proves it wrong.
>>543439663>Jews curse Christ on a daily basis and consider Christianity their main enemyand yet christcucks support the jews.>But yeah let's convince MORE people to convert.they make a lot of money with these fake scam religions.>Don't like Christianity because it clashes with this stuff?I dont like christcuckery or any religion because they are retarded and all the people in these religions are also retarded.and obviously they are spreading lies.also it makes no sense for a white man to worship a brown jewish subhuman from the middle east.
>>543438738Moses never existed, yet your dead rabbi claimed Moses "prophecized" his birth. It's impossible to get lost in the road to Canaan was clear from Egypt. There was no getting lost in the Sinai desert of Arabia. There was a trade route from Egypt to the coastal cities of Canaan. The narrative device, a god keeping someone lost for years because the hero angered them, was stolen from the Odyssey.
>>543439515>the Word was given so we know the nature and Will of God.If god exists, if he had a will... why the fuck should I care? This divine "word of god" that you exalt seems (and this is me being generous) to describe a god who is bipolar and unstable, and much too narcissistic. He's a bad parent. I won't let him see his grandkids.Do you have any idea of the selection process for the books of the bible? Have you never read of those? If you believe that the Book of Mark is a true gospel, how can you possibly believe anything else in the New Testament (or the Old)? And if you believe those other books in the New Testament, how can you believe the Book of Mark? They are incompatible. The early Church founders had little choice to include the Book of Mark, but it does not support the beliefs of the early Church nor the modern Church. To ignore the evidence of your eyes is one thing (dumb, but principled in a nigger-brained way), to ignore the evidence of your own Holy Scriptures is lunatic.
>>543439705Good thing it doesn't but yes. If it explicitly mentioned using Christianity as a tool then yes.And I'm aware that the Jews in the Protocols also explicitly hatched a plan to infiltrate Christianity from within. True Christianity is fundamentally anti-Jew. And by the way, I'm aware of certain rabbis "retconning" Jesus and/or Paul as a spreader of Noahide laws and what not. That's an obvious cope.
>>543424337>>543424158If evolution is bullshit then explain Africa and the west? You can't. We aren't all the same fucking retard.
>>543439794Good thing I'm not a catholicuck
One word is all it takes to dismantle the anti evolution crowd: Africans. Case closed.
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>>543440000>picAll religions are superstition and "demon" is an accurate word because it's original meaning is "god" or "spirit". Fagans are just as, if not more delusional than crossniggers.
>>543440103The anti-evolution crowd doesn't understand evolution and will ask, "when will africans become european?"
>>543440000>It's impossible to get lost in the road to Canaan was clear from Egypt.God drove them into the wilderness to test them, retard.>>543440011>This divine "word of god" that you exalt seems (and this is me being generous) to describe a god who is bipolar and unstable, and much too narcissistic. He's a bad parent.thats how I know you never actually read it and just repeat bs you heard somewhere else.>how can you believe the Book of Mark? They are incompatible.how so?
>>543439984>and yet christcucks support the jews.Heretics>also it makes no sense for a white man to worship a brown jewish subhuman from the middle eastFunny, you're own Fuhrer thought otherwise:>"Adolf Hitler made a recorded statement in 1921 stating, “I can imagine Christ as nothing other than blond and with blue eyes, the devil however only with a Jewish grimace”.
>>543439746>Matter ca. Not aimply exist witbout a causeyes it can.>The Universe has a begining and an end since it is materialagain, this doesnt even make any sense.it can be material and endless.>which data is that? astronomical observations.>Who gathered it, by what methods?empirical observations.>Logic on the otheris a process that can lead to TRUTH without the need for "data".the problem is that you start with an obviously false assumption and build your theory from there.every theory derived from wrong assumption (a creator must exist) are automatically wrong.>Vacuum literally means NOTHINGits not "nothing" tho.the concept of nothing does not exist in the universe.>Here's your fucking science:thats fake jew science tho which like their religion builds on assumptions and butthurt.
>>543439837>Your opinion without any historical evidencehumanity is deep in the shitter because of religion. religion only creates retards who do retarded rituals and have retarded views.
>>543440213>you'reyourYou know what I meant
>>543424337>My opinion is, evolution is fake. It's a mainstream lie that collapses under closer inspection. The purpose of the lie is to make people believe in materialism (to turn those they can get a hold of into porn-addicted degenerates) and to separate you from God
>>543440043Man, your beliefs are pretty fragile. You'd just contradict your whole world view because someone you don't like said they liked it.It's kind of contrarian if you think about it.Actually, let me clarify. You don't even know if someone you don't like actually said that or not. No one actually knows who wrote the protocols. So you might just be basing your worldview off of what someone said someone said.
>>543437477>you dont have the physics (you were mindraped by jews).Schizo>basically the Standard Model says the electron is a probability wave, and the pattern is the square of the wavefunction and the electron has no definite trajectory or position until measured.>but how it actually works: the electron is a real,Stopped reading right there.Fucking schizos man! Wasting my time with retarded schizo bullshit like electron dey be real n shieet.It's a fucking concept you moron that was proven in practice but a concept nonetheless.Here's an exercept from your favourite d zienz "The concept of electrons is essential to explain physical phenomena, such as electricity, magnetism, chemistry, and thermal conductivity; they are subject to the forces of gravity,"
>>543438071Not really. Where do you get unique orphan genes from ?
>>543424158if something is not known, it doesn't exist. In order for anything at all to exists, the awareness of it must also exist. therefore, the universe is self aware. information is self aware. the importance of the lie of evolution is not whether god exists or not, is because the lie as about convincing the goyim that he is disconnected from god, alone on a floating rock in space. As I said before, the universe is self aware, and you are, on some level, connected to that awareness of all, knowing this, it follows that the universe listens in some capacity to you and your desires. Study law of attraction or therapy involving communicating the subconscious to learn more on that.>spiritual warfare is realfalse equivalence, jumping to conclusion, fearmongering cuckstianity psyop
>>543440368>No one actually knows who wrote the protocolsXDThe fucking kikes wrote them lolAnd this isn't some "oh someone has a different opinion than you?" This is the world-dominating fucking sickening kikes we're talking about here.Not just """"someone""".
>>543440208>God drove them into the wilderness to test themNo, the kikes just stole from a better story (The Odyssey) where an angry god kept the hero and his men lost for years. Because the torah was 'compiled' in the Hellenistic Period.
>>543440549are you stupid or something?
>>543440452Even ignoring normal development and then subsequent orphaning via ortholog extinction, I can give you 3 mechanisms where you can generate a brand new orphan gene within a single mutational event:intronic start codon gaininterstitial deletiontranspositional gene fusion
>>543432812No, it didn't. You don't understand the experiment and are clearly a very stupid person motivated solely by religious bias.
>>543439562Yes, but life-forms need error correction or their genome would degrade too quickly and they would cease to be life-forms and turn into death-forms.>Completely uncorrected, zero-fidelity copying of a genome is not observed in nature; it would hit error catastrophe too quickly.In the beginning, if evolution is true, there could not have been error-correction mechanisms. It must have evolved. But without error-correction mechanisms DNA degrades too quickly to keep the protein encoding of pre-cursors of error correction mechanisms.There are many even more complex interactions like these.
>>543440500I suppose I shouldn't be surprised. you also believe the bible, which is again what someone said, someone said. (Recorded 300 fucking years after the guy who supposedly said it died. How accurate can a Jesus quote even be 300 years later?)
concepts like beauty and ugliness would not exist in a chaotic system that is based on chance
>>543440590You sure are for ignoring evolution and the clear molecular biological evidence, fossils, etc. Read a book or go to university.
>>543440213>1921Hitler realized kikestians were only a hindrance when they kept trying assassinate him and the church / priests kept actively sabotaging his efforts.
>>543440756>Recorded 300 fucking yearsNot even remotely accurate,You also type like a woman.I have a penchant for picking out female 4chan posts on this board. Are you female. /pol/ is for men, sweetheart.
>>543440590You worship a kike.
>>543440771>Read a book or go to university.I did, its all fake and gay because their basics are in error.>biological evidence, fossilsexplain maritime fossils in the alps.
>>543440208>thats how I know you never actually read it and just repeat bs you heard somewhere else.You know things that are impossible to know. Maybe you are big-G God yourself, eh? All based on opinions you disagree with.>how so?Now who hasn't read it? The Book of Mark doesn't describe a Jesus that is the descendant (let alone heir) of David. Though other people occasionally say that he must be so... Jesus never bothers to affirm this. He doesn't deny it either, but in a way where he's telling them "you're not even wrong" wrong. He goes around killing demons, and then admonishing people to tell no one that he was even there. Whenever he has a chance to tell anyone that he is the emissary of Yahweh, he avoids doing so. He never claims divinity. Never is resurrected. Warns people that some will come after him claiming to speak in his name but to not believe those liars. So Saul comes along not 10 years after he's dead, people believe him and all the weird shit he makes up about Jesus (including by some accounts, through Matthew, one of the gospels). Those other 3 gospels do not read as the account of someone who witnessed the events, but as jewish-inspired fiction very loosely based on an older original (Mark) but having redacted everything spicy.This is not a story that corroborates the other gospels. It denounces them, and more or less all of the rest of the New Testament.In an intelligent reading of Mark, one gets the distinct impression that Yahweh was the enemy of Jesus, but that Jesus failed to destroy him the way he destroyed the other demons.And, it should be pointed out, that the one single time Jesus tells us which god he works for, it's a name that the Christians have seemingly covered up since forever. It's pretty fucking strange. Mark is originally in Koine Greek, but the person writing it down found that name so important that rather than try to translate it to Greek, it's in Aramaic. You Christcucks never seem to think that important.
>>543440937and you worship satan.
>>543439515>the only bookI'm trying to be civil and find common ground with you, so why are you lying to me? The Bible is not the only surviving ancient book in the world. There ISN'T a Bible that has survived since biblical times. The oldest surviving Bibles were compiled centuries after Christ's time, and modern Bibles didn't exist at all for another thousand years after that.>the Word prevailsYes. The Word. That capital 'W' is important. What has survived all this time can't be erased because it's something in all of us. We were made in God's own image, were we not? Even if we all fall short, there's never been a time where God's Grace and His Will has been completely beaten or argued out of a population. That's not because of a book.I don't know why you're trying to complicate this so much. The ancient Greeks figured out that there's more to the material Universe than we could observe or understand before Christ was even born.
>>543440290Are you sure? The love and hate it created has archived everything what surrounds you. Therefore your claim is again empty.
>>543440988I for one look forward to millions of muzzy loving christ kikes being reduced to ash in ww3
>>543424158Evolution and all physical process can exist or not exist and have no effect on a higher plane. Your premise is flawed.
>>543440715we have modern day examples we can study of viral replication that has no dna repair mechanisms, it is a simple problem that is solved by sheer volume of replication
>>543438927>God can Create and Destroy Energy> God isnt real so no he cant create or destroy energy.OFCOURSE GOD IS REAL. Otherwise you can't explain the origin of matter and energy.> >We are talking about THE CREATOR.> no creator is needed for literally anything.Yes it is. All things must have an ORIGIN hence THE CREATOR.>>You need an eye /brain doctor visit.> nopeYeo> >Your observation capabilities are subpar.> not my problem you are retarded.I,m not. You are.> >Universe is material therefore it is finite> that doesnt even make any sense.The problem is you're an idiot that can't comprehend basic logic yet you think yourself to be smart - the defining trait of a midwit.>>Even if was infinite, how did it come into existence> its infinite, there is no beginning.It's not see above.> >since nothingness does EXIST> nope.Yep> >proven by the existence of vacuum> thats still something No it's NOT. Vacuum is void aka NOTHING. Here's the definition midwitA vacuum (pl.: vacuums or vacua) is space devoid of matter. The word is derived from the Latin adjective vacuus (neuter vacuum) meaning "vacant" or "void">and it is not proof that absolute nothingness exists.Yes it is, you're just too dumb or playing dumb to fathom it> >Again you need GOD at all steps> no you dont.Yeah you do for the above mentioned reasons.> >Are those physics in here with us right now?> yes I been explaining them for many posts now.Ah, so you're a schizo.> also are you pajeet? what is the color of your skin, I'm curious.Also significantly whiter than you given my ability to reason unlike you.
>>543440810The Protocols ALSO mention spreading "Nietzscheism", along with Marxism and the aforementioned Darwinism to corrupt the goyim.Have none of you retards read the Protocols? I posted the whole thing. Perhaps that's why Hitler lost? Initially and nominally pro-Christian he slowly abandoned it and look what happened.
>>543440988I worship nothing but whiteness.>>543440764So why did god make polacks so fugly?
>>543441179Do you believe in an afterlife?
>>543441115Good luck with your millions and millions of christian niggers.
>>543441108>Otherwise you can't explain the origin of matter and energy.1. Why do they require an origin?2. How does "God" explain their origin?>All things must have an ORIGIN henceWhy? What law of physics insists such? What evidence do you have to assert this?If you're a person who believes in spirits and deities, in particular in a religion where spirits and deities often lie about many things including their own identity, why would you believe a spirit that tells you it is a god and that it created everything? Have you never met humans who took credit for circumstances that they deserve none for? Why would spirits lie about everything, but never about that?
>>543441296That filthy nigger isn't a Christian I guarantee it.
>>543440957Sure, the alps used to be the ocean floor many millions of years ago. Ocean life has been around longer than that. So when the land was uplifted and exposed we got some nice limestone, dolomite, other minerals. We also got fossils as part of the alps.
kundalini energy is something you won't learn about in biology class and yet it's intrinsic to every human being
>>543439021Hey, PhD faggot, "extinct intermediates" claim is an unfalsifiable rescue device. The theory was supposed to be testable. Instead, every negative result gets absorbed by an invisible, unobservable, always-just-out-of-reach population of extinct intermediates. You pseudoscience practicing pansy. If proteins diverged over eons, where are the : gradient sequences, structural intermediates, sequence similarity that decays smoothly with phylogenetic distance ? Wanna expand on topoisomerase 5, the tardigrade Dsup protein ? Orphans are just "extant samples with extinct relatives," then as we sequence more genomes, the number of orphans should decrease, we should keep finding the missing relatives. But the opposite happened. The number of orphan genes increased as more organisms were sequenced. The discovery rate went up, not down. I would knock you out irl.
>>543440988Ha-satan is a tempter angel who's actions are ordained by God himself. The characters of the snake, ha-satan, the devil, and lucifer all being the same person are not canonical. That belief pops up way after the bible, when Milton wrote "Paradise Lost"
>>543440974>You know things that are impossible to know.its almost like there is a book so we can know.>>543440974the 4 gospels complement each other, Mark doesnt have to spell out Jesus as the heir of David when Matthew already did that.Each Gospel brings forth the 4 distinct natures of God in Jesus Christ as Man/King/Servant and God went totally over your head and understanding. each describe Jesus actions from a different angle but they dont contradict each other.even Matthew and John, 2 direct witnesses, read totally different from one another but still complement each other because they show two different natures of God.>In an intelligent reading of Mark, one gets the distinct impression that Yahweh was the enemy of Jesus, but that Jesus failed to destroy him the way he destroyed the other demons.no, youre just a gnostic retard if that is what you get our of the gospel of Mark.
>>543441429I gave you answers already fuckwit>>543440591
>>543439425>>Something can't come from nothing>>GOD does not come from anywhere>You insist absolutely everything must follow this rule, except one thing that is above the rule. Well duuh!!! Everything must have a begining and an end bc everything material is finite therefore there has to be a Source, Prime Mover, THE CREATOR that has originated all this and LOGICALLY that Source, Prime Mover Creator is not finite nor does it have a begining bc otherwise nothing would exist since what comes out of nothing is still nothing.THE CREATOR is by logical definition without begining and without ending i.e. INFINITE.>You're engaged in special pleading, and no one has any reason to take you seriously.So don't. Just use your brain, assuming you have one, and think Logically.You do know what Logic is don't you anon? No wonder the west has fallen. Can't grasp simple concepts.
>>543440996>The Bible is not the only surviving ancient book in the world.its the most copied and wide spread. we lost countless written texts throughout the ages, but the bible perseveres. there is no lie in that.>I don't know why you're trying to complicate this so much.you are the one complicating it in your mind for some reason I dont understand.>The ancient Greeks figured out that there's more to the material Universe than we could observe or understand before Christ was even born.every fucking civilization knew that, you had native americans that knew about the world of the spirits.the bible is unique in the sense that it clears up what this spirit realm is about, where it comes from and what it is. thats the unique feature of the bible, it gives answers where humans before would have only vague senses.thats why it spread the world, it is the inherent truth that all man seek for.
>>543441223Any universe that would allow shitskins to come into being is too insane, disgusting and chaotic for me to trust an afterlife.
>>543441057what makes you think you wont burn?
>>543441179whites have done nothing but destroy themselves in the past hundreds of years.>>543441423>Sure, the alps used to be the ocean floor many millions of years ago.do you actually believe this shit? are you this gullible?>>543441464>ha-satan, the devil, and lucifer all being the same person are not canonicalthis same shit over and over again.
music and harmony/rythmnplace a monkey infront of a piano and wait until it plays something that doesn't sound like cacophony
>>543441485>its almost like there is a book so we can know.Where in the book did it say that I didn't read the book? Did it say that with my given name, or did it use my /pol/ thread id?>the 4 gospels complement each other,They don't. You can't possibly have read all four. Mark is the odd one out. You're probably operating from some dumbass cliff-notes-type brochure. You don't need to read any particular translation (though Lattimore's translation of the Koine is superior), even the KJV version supports everything I've said.>Each Gospel brings forth the 4 distinct natures of God in Jesus ChristMark does no such thing at all. You haven't read it.>even Matthew and John, 2 direct witnesses,Matthew was a contemporary of Saul. He never witnessed anything. If I am generous and assume the witness Matthew writes down on parchment, that person never witnessed Jesus either. Unless of course you're saying that Matthew is just plagiarism of Mark (pretty supportable), in which case Matthew is a corruption of Mark. How do you not know this? Do you not read these? Are you too busy reading the jewish books of the so-called bible, to give a shit about the ones that are specific to Jesus?>no, youre just a gnostic retard if that is what you get our of the gospel of Mark.The gnostics actually believed in the other 3 gospels. They mostly ignored Mark. They posit that there's some all-knowing loving god, and the demiurge just cockblocks them. I don't believe anything like that.
>>543441701>Continues special pleading, which is a logical fallacy.>You do know what Logic is don't you anon?Yeah, I do, I'm not sure you do.
>>543441782Weak nigger GET THE FUCK OFF YOUR MUZZY LOVING ASS AND DO YOUR OWN DIRTY WORK KRAUT FAGGOT
>>543439450>A very bad take.>not really.Yes really>>Religion is important to give sense to many life's.>if you need religion to give your life sense you arent fit enough for living.The other way around.if you don't need religion to give your life sense you arent fit enough for living.You're a fucking sociopath.>>Without religion chaos erupts and we become savages>not really.Yes really. Just look what happens now in once religious lands like Western Europe Russia and America with Eastern Euros coming in hot to catch up the with the Godless degeneracy.>>progress in human development>can be achieved without mutilating your dick and believing in magical sky jew.Nobody said you need to that you filtby judaeoprotestant. And GOD whether Incarnate or not is above and beyond ethnicity.
>>543441888I just thought it was interesting. And paradise list is a cool book. So cool that it changed Christian doctrine for all time, because it's a really well written poem/story.
>>543439658Based, notice how the midwit kraut doesn’t respond to you? He knows that he can’t actually disprove anything without parroting (shit) arguments from other people
>>543424158> This thread IS politicalWhy do people still think you need to say this on here? Lol
>>543440073>Good thing I'm not a catholicuckNot that good. Those venerate the Holy Prepuce while holding their own. You cut you prepuce and suffer for all your earthly existence.
biogenesis cannot be replicated they just say it would take a really really long time for it to happen
>>543441748>there is no lie in thatYou said it's the only book to do that. You also >implied that that quality makes it a uniquely reliable source on the divine. These are both lies.>complicate Even if I wrote a whole book about my beliefs, I don't think it'd be 900 pages long. Also, your refusal to even ENGAGE with my beliefs let alone entertain them tells me there's little point in doing so.>the Bible gives answers that people before had only a vague sense of First off, it's not the only book to do this.Second, can you quantify these answers in any way? Or are you just using the Bible in correspondence with your own existing ideas and beliefs to try and make some sense out of the world, like I and probably most of the other people ITT are doing?
>>543442236Anti abortion=nigger loverYou go into the ovens first
>>543441888If plate tectonics and theories of land formation were fake, along with life being here on Earth, oil companies and coal mining companies wouldn’t have any revenue. So yeah I do, and so does one of the most important sectors of the economy.
>>543441943>Where in the book did it say that I didn't read the book?no, its your bs takes. most likely you got your info on the bible from some gay podcast from the looks of it.>They don't. You can't possibly have read all four. Mark is the odd one out.and thats how I know you are full of shit.>Mark does no such thing at all.Mark depicts Jesus as God the Man.Matthew as Gpd the King.Luke as God the servant.John as God the divine.>Matthew was a contemporary of Saul.you fucking retard, Matthew was the tax collector Jesus recruited himself.>The gnostics actually believed in the other 3 gospels. yes, and this is why I imminently knew you got everything from some gay gnostic podcast and not the bible.>>543442126its not canon and has no impact on the scriptures itself. its entirely fiction.
>>543432948>if jesus was real, then obviously we wouldn't need to build shrines to glorify himThe funny part is that we actually don’t need to do that, lol
>>543442336So you DO believe Satan, lucifer, the devil, and the serpent are separate characters?
>>543441625>Fine, maybe extinct intermediates don't explain everything, but I can generate a brand new orphan gene in one mutational event.I believe in sudden appearance. Explain how explain how a single mutation produces a functional, essential, highly expressed gene. Intronic start codon gain: a mutation creates a start codon in an intron. Congratulations. You now have a potential ORF. ORF is not a GENE, you flaming homosexual. Where are the : regulatory elements (promoters, enhancers), correct splicing, proper translation signals,q functional protein that doesn't immediately degrade or misfold and it needs to be selected for. You need the start codon, and you need to remove the stop codons, and you need the ribosome to recognize it, and you need the protein to fold, and you need selection to keep it. One mutation doesn't do any of that. "Interstitial deletion" is degradation, not innovation, faggot. A deletion removes DNA. It doesn't create new information. It might bring an existing ORF into a new context, or fuse two fragments. Evolution is great at breaking things, terrible at building them. A deletion is a break. It's degradation. It's the opposite of innovation. "Transpositional gene fusion" is a lottery ticket that requires winning the lottery twice. Fusion just shuffles existing parts. It doesn't explain where the parts came from, or how they fused into something new and essential. The empirical evidence shows that you can't cross sequence space to get from one functional protein to another. Fusion doesn't bypass that. Just give me : a transposable element (already complex) to insert in the right place, in the right orientation to fuse two sequences that happen to produce a functional protein that happens to be selected for.
>>543442265>I cant comprehend how abiogenesis occurred therefore I will believe that it was spontaneously created by an ineffable being Are you this dumb in real life?
>>543442300no they are not, please show me a book that depicts creation itself and the life before the flood.> Also, your refusal to even ENGAGEhow did I not engage with you when I replies to what you wrote?do you want me to suck up to you or what?>First off, it's not the only book to do this.yes it is, its specifically unique in that regard that it is the Truth.>Or are you just using the Bible in correspondence with your own existing ideas and beliefs the bible completely changed the way I think and what I believe, it didnt conform to me, I had to conform to it. thats what it makes it unique. it has authority and you have to humble yourself before it and accept the hard truths it teaches about humanity in general but also personally. its a mirror that you are looking into that shows you exactly who you are. and only God can do that since he is the only one that knows your heart and thoughts.
>>543433001The problem with your analogy is that once microwaved, the seed is fucking dead lmao Which is why you’re wrong
>>543441625Show me a specific orphan gene that arose via intronic start codon gain, in a single mutational event, and is essential for the organism.Show me a specific orphan gene that arose via interstitial deletion, and is highly expressed and essential.Show me a specific orphan gene that arose via transpositional fusion, and has no structural or functional analog anywhere else.You can't because you're engaging is logically fallacies, pseudoscience, storytelling and gay creation myths.
>>543441888And yet other whites are the only hope we still have.
>>543442489no, different names for the same entity.
>>543442560there are many reasons that prove a creator you just want to live in your material nhilistic pointlessness of a existence for some odd reason
>>543442690only, God is the only hope we have.
>>543442536>One mutation doesn't do any of that.It actually does, that is the beauty of introns. I will not bother spoon feeding you further on that point as there is an abundance of literature on it. Fusing 2 fragments can create a gene which fails BLAST alignment, that is all that is required to be defined as an ophan gene.Transpositional gene fusion can create a gene which fails BLAST alignment, that is all that is required to be defined as an ophan gene.I will not allow you to shift the goalposts. The existence of orphan genes do not in any way disprove evolutionary processes.
>>543442758God does not existThis is why you krauts are ruled by shitskin rapists
>>543433805> pond scumNigger, my ancestors walked up out of the oceans, watch your tone.
>>543442816cattle calling pot black
>>543442739>not canon and has no impact on the scriptures itself.Now you're just contradicting yourself. Satan was an angel, lucifer was a Babylonian king who fell from gods grace, and the serpent was a serpent. Right up untill the 1600s when Milton wrote a story.
>>543442856We are deporting shitskinsYou welcome them inWe are not the same christ kike
>>543442876>lucifer was a Babylonian king who fell from gods gracethis shit again...>>543442909pay your taxes to israel, goyim
>>543442336>most likely you got your info on the bible from some gay podcastI've been reading Richmond Lattimore's translation of the Gospels. My Koine is subpar, I'm having to look up every other word. But when I try, I read the Codex Sinaiticus. Which is among the earliest known copies of Mark. I've read it through many times. The other three gospels as well, though perhaps not as often. Here is is up on my desktop (picrel). I can't recommend Lattimore's translation enough. Instead of trying to translate ancient idioms into modern, he tends to translate literally, it can make it a more difficult read, but also means he's not injecting any bias into this.My "bs takes" are the only reasonable reading of it. It's a strange book that you clearly haven't even opened (in any translation/version... they all mostly preserve the strangeness of it).>and thats how I know you are full of shit.You make it sound as if you opened the book, in some half-assed translation that you've not bothered to name, and aimed your face at the pages. But that's not reading. In the back of your head, where the so-called "inner monologue" lives, you were no doubt chanting your own interpretation of it and ignoring the words on the paper. This seems like an intelligent activity to you, no doubt.>Mark depicts Jesus as God the Man.No, that would be the other three. Mark depicts Jesus as the second in command to John, executed by Herod, so Jesus had to take over. Learn to read.>yes, and this is why I imminently knew you got everything from some gay gnostic podcast and not the bible.I don't listen to podcasts. That's for illiterate people like you. It doesn't even occur to me to listen to people yammering... I only open Youtube when I need to find out how to repair an appliance. I read. Do you?
>>543440245>>Matter ca. Not aimply exist witbout a cause>yes it can.Nope>>543440245>>The Universe has a begining and an end since it is materialYep>again, this doesnt even make any sense.It does but you're too stupid for basic logic.>it can be material and endless.Nope>>which data is that? >astronomical observations.Not enough.>>Who gathered it, by what methods?>empirical observations.Failed to answer WHO? Empirical is insufficent. Observations - what kind? Optical? Means precisely dick.>>Logic on the otheris a process that can lead to TRUTH without the need for "data".>the problem is that you start with an obviously false assumption and build your theory from there.Nope. That's what you do. Universe is infinite - false premise. Logic is logic. Does it wear? Yea then it's finite. >every theory derived from wrong assumption (a creator must exist) are automatically wrong.Except The Creators Existence is a Logical Fact not a Theory.>>Vacuum literally means NOTHING>its not "nothing" tho.It is tho>the concept of nothing does not exist in the universe.Ye it does - it's called VOID or VACUUM and the space between planets is in fact a "near perfect" VOID/VACUUM>>Here's your fucking science:>thats fake jew science tho which like their religion builds on assumptions and butthurt.Ah yes, muh jooz even when (((their))) science is actually used to undermine Religion especially Christian - the actual one not that jewish protestant crap or the schismatic catholic.Learn learn learn ! Amirite "comrade"?Fucking militant materialists.Starting to think Inquisition did some things right even if for the wrong reason
>>543442573>please show me a book that depicts creation itselfThis is a joke, right?The creation myth, aside from not being at all dissimilar to other such myths about the origin of the Universe, also has little corresponding evidence to support it. Wouldn't there be SOME geological record of the Earth being formed in a single day, or less genetic diversity if all animals other than humans had the exact same source?>and the life before the flood.What flood? Where is the sedimentary evidence of a global flood a few thousand years ago? Where is the Ark itself, or the grave of the man who saved all of humanity and would no doubt have been recorded and remembered out of gratitude and respect?>I had to conform to itSo you follow it absolutely? How well do you treat your slaves? What do you do on Sundays? There is no way you observe everything in that book, yet you're trying to convince me that you do. Why?
>>543442743>lack of creator = “material nhilistic pointlessness“Projection. Religion is a prison cell you choose to lock yourself up in every day. I will not lock myself in a cage. Atheism has made me far more happy than the mental strife of trying to make the bible (or any religion) fit into my reality
>>543442956It's alright if the doctrine and dogma around something changes man. It's your book, interpret it how you want. Believe what you want. Just don't roll your eyes at people who care about the historicity of the characters and the stories.
>>543443082only so you can fornicate and be selfish without having a guilty conscience i bet
>>543443006>It's a strange book that you clearly haven't even openedno its not. its straight forward. idk what you read into it.>Mark depicts Jesus as the second in command to Johnidk where the fuck you get this from. your reading seems utterly impaired. maybe read an offical translation.>I read. Do you?yes, and I understand what is written which you apparently dont.
>>543442956Tell achmed to enjoy raping your country lol
>>543443257Catholis are ultra niggerishYour brainwashed boy rape sponsoring cult is fucking retarded when it comes to sex
>>543442909Actually we aren't retard.Fucking mutt. ICE isn't even close to doing anything substantial.
>>543443008>Ah yes, muh joozso you are jewish, only jews write "jooz", this explains a lot.also your circumciser god isnt real.
>>543443488Grammerniggers are below faggot tierBegone
>>543443068>The creation mythits not a myth.>Wouldn't there be SOME geological record of the Earth being formed in a single day, or less genetic diversity if all animals other than humans had the exact same source?we have the geological evidence of the flood which obviously reset the earth. and we see the genetically similarities of the animal on the continents according to their kind.>Where is the sedimentary evidence of a global flood a few thousand years ago?Mount Everest with its many layers and large drainage canyons is the best evidence.>Where is the Ark itselfyou expect a wooden ship to survive to this day? most likely the wood was used for building after the flood anyway. why would you preserve it?>So you follow it absolutely?the commandments are to be followed. otherwise I let God teach me in my day to day dealings with the world.I dont own slaves, sunday is insignificant and the ceremonial law is obsolete.the commandments are straight forward and just require you to not be an absolute asshole.whats so hard?
>>543443545please see>>543439275
>>543443208its not my book and I am not to interpret how I wants.when God talks about the Evil One then its clear as day who he talks about in the other books.
>>543443610fake atheism made by jews isnt real atheism.the goal is making atheism look bad so you have to come to the "sane looking" religious side.so basically another jew scam where they play both sides.
>>543443591Address my argument nigger.ICE isn't doing SHIT.fag.
>>543443596“Sunday is insignificant”Are you even German? A ton of shit is closed on Sunday and it’s impossible to do a lot of stuff. Moreso than in the US.
>>543443660>fake atheism made by jews isnt real atheism.PFFTTT HAHAHAAHAHAwhat even is this """argument"""?
>>543441331>1. Why do they require an origin?Bc nothing appears eh nihilo i.e.out of nothing. You need thw building blocks. How do building blocks come into existence.>2. How does "God" explain their origin?GOD is THE CREATOR.The SourceThe Prime MoverThe Cause of All The One Who Puts Things in Motion>>All things must have an ORIGIN hence>Why? What law of physics insists such? What evidence do you have to assert this?The very EXISTENCE of Things. If things Exist they Must have an Origin.What ks the Origin?And your question is slightly misguided. It's not the Law of physics that dictates that but the Law of Existence. Physics are just a consequnce of Existence.Rest of what you wrote is just a massive non sequitur and a even more massive brain rot - deities lie bc humans lie. So the first thing you thought about is a petty human behaviour which you attributed to "deities". You are most likely projecting your owm petty self. And petty people are generally stupid..And those lying "deities" you speak of are called in many Religions -plural - demons and are evil just like you. But we're not talking here about good and evil, we're talking about something that transcends that - The Creation specifically The Creation of the Building Blocks.
>>543443068>Wouldn't there be SOME geological record of the Earth being formed in a single day,If one supposes that this god can arrange atoms and molecules in any arrangement he might want, then the Earth might have been created 5 minutes ago, with you thinking that this conversation didn't start when you posted. All your memories of it occurring for the last 3 hours were just the arrangement of molecules within your brain. In other words, such an explanation has no explanatory power. It raises the question of how and why this god chose that particular arrangement, and if the arrangement might have followed rules that we can track back before the point of creation.
>>543443700yep, because Germany is Roman Catholic and not christian. sunday laws are against the commandments of God who tells us to rest on the sabbath and not sunday.
>>543443666You love niggersI do what I want
>>543443704never heard of controlled opposition? is that a new concept for you?
>>543443720>building blocksYou mean elements like hydrogen and carbon?
>>543443765cringeGo rank your favorite metalcore bands again faggot.
I made a new threadIn case people want the discussion to continueAlmost 400 posts here already>>543443870>>543443870>>543443870>>543443870>>543443870
>>543443795No.It's not a new concept.There is no such thing as "fake atheism" vs "real atheism".What even are you talking about? All the worthy Germans died in the wars. It's true. Fucking retard worm.
>>543442759Listen, you know that pressed in a public debate you'd fold like a cheap suit. Also, I don't need orphan genes as an argument; there's enough empirical science to debunk the evolutionary pseudoscience.
>>543443983>What even are you talking about?lmao retard never heard of controlled opposition.
>>543443329>no its not.No one who has read it can possibly say that. It's nothing like the other three gospels. Not even a little. Which other gospel has Jesus telling the apostles "that's not a demon, it's epilepsy and you can't exorcise it to get rid of it, only prayer works"? Which has Jesus (somehow, the details are never explaining) setting up prearranged signals like out of some spy novel? My jaw was on the floor when I read that the first time. I thought I knew the story, but you really don't until you've read Mark.This book is its own evidence that Jesus wasn't fictional. No 1st or 2nd century jackass could have fabricated it as fiction. One need not believe that it proves the supernatural... it only demonstrates that the people described within it believed in the supernatural themselves if you must insist. But there's no way in hell that Jesus was just some story that was made up. >idk where the fuck you get this from. From reading it. As you've never done. Somehow, the jews failed to corrupt this particular text. Which, as it turns out, didn't matter... because you've never read it. Guess they've got your measure as a lazy illiterate fuckwit.>maybe read an offical translation.Those say the same thing. Just awkwardly in language that's not quite so modern.>yes, and I understand what is written which you apparently dont.You can't even type with correct capitalization. You struggle to write out "I don't know" as if that's some chore. Your ability to self-assess is suspect.
>>543444123Explain to me what "fake" atheism is versus "real" atheism. And don't waste my time.
>>543444183>jews set up controlled opposition>make that controlled opposition side look bad by attaching all kinds of dumb shit to it>the originally dumber looking religion now looks like the better optionits really simple.
>>543444171>"that's not a demon, it's epilepsy and you can't exorcise it to get rid of it, only prayer works"thats not even what it is saying.> 25 And when Jesus saw that a crowd came running together, he rebuked the unclean spirit, saying to it, “You mute and deaf spirit, I command you, come out of him and never enter him again.” no idea what you are reading m8
>>543443943>In case people want the discussion to continueReally don't. Not one person conceded a single point in 350 posts
