If turkey would try to establish islamic controll over them again?
Based
>>543761154Ooof.Serb history is Jewish history.They will backstab Europe to get a shekel or grain of land.. and in the end.. get nothing.
>>543761154>Principality of WallachiaWe told them to stop fucking around, they refused to listen so we left then they lost.
>>543760947The fuck are these two knock-off little russias gonna do against Turkey?
>>543760947
>>543760947Obviously yes until the turkshit is gone.Well atleast from a serb perspective.No idea about the cros, can never trust them fully, they literally support analbanian mudshits to spite us so.
>>543760947Idk this is probably the most retarded conflict in the world. They are literally the same but both are so assblasted about each ither than rather imports indians while the other sells off everything to the chinese. In the meanhwile you have literal IS terrorcells forming in bosnia and kosovo.Bith of them could be a power house in the balkans if they formed some form of ecomic cooperations.
>>543763997Well anon we are two extremely prideful and stubborn slavic tribes.Add to that the fact we killed each other a lot and it's a recipe for disaster.
>>543763303>>543761154>posts one battle taken out of context because the serbian empire already fell and serbia became a puppet state with no choice>leaves out 3 other Serb factions that fought against itSerbia has the largest list of conflicts against the Ottomans in the world, while other Balkan countries like Bulgaria, Greece and Albania have less overall than Serbia has in one decade.Serbs were also bordermen and military guard in the Austria-hungarian empire, especially in Vojvodina (hence battleland) and Croatia (hence srpska krajina), where they were given permission to settle near the borders after Serbia and Bosnia (Serbian land see >>542965573) fell, in exchange for military protection. This means that even in Austria Hungary and Croatia, a significant portion of the soldiers were Serbs, fighting for their flags, not Croats.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Serbian%E2%80%93Ottoman_conflicts
>>543761154>>543763303Also killed more Turks than you
>>543761154>>543763303>>543764991>>543765058Picrel, Serbs the only to genocide Turks, Muslims assimilated them and hid them, and Bulgaria has them (Bulgarian Turks, Google it), and Greece has them.Now they only live there and in Kosovo (50k), which was dark red before assimilation and genocides.
>>543761154>>543763303there are 7-10 MILLION ALBANIANS in the world, ONLY 2 MILLION LIVE IN ALBANIAABOUT 20% OF THE 10 MILLION LIVE IN TURKEYSWITZERLAND IS 6.6% ALBANIAN DUE TO RAPEFUGEESRAPEFUGEETHERE ARE 50K TURKS IN KOSOVO, MORE IF YOU COUNT ASSIMILATEDhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanianshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanians_in_Turkey
>>543761154t. Albonig in Greece, picrel, since only 20% of Albanians live in Albania >>543765218
>>543761154>>543761154
>>543760947Turks are incompetent inbreds rife with inflation, they import most of their food, they never developed their domestic main battle tank while they talk about building an aircraft carrier, they are utterly incapable nation of dark skin anatolian peasant. Did you know that if you said to a member of an Ottoman court that he was a Turk that was seen as a grave insult? Turk was a pejorative for a rural muslim bumpkin in Asia Minor, not white, racially bleached sons of the ottoman dynasty. tl,dr- Turks are Mexicans.
>>543765218>>543765119>>543765058>>543764991>>543764418>>543763756Cope serboshrek, Russian cum guzzler
>>543761154>>543765448
>>543765495Who owns Kosovo today, hero of the balkans?
>>543765448>>543761154>>543763303>When comparing who fought more for (rather than against) the Ottoman Empire, Albanians fought for the Ottomans significantly more in terms of overall duration, numbers, and high-level strategic impact.While both ethnic groups had distinct periods where they acted as vital military assets for the Sultan, the scale of their contributions shifted heavily due to religious conversion and integration into the ruling elite
>>543765561USA
>>543763673>pre minutUhm did you post that?
>>543765632>>543765597>not even America has such an arm-ACKA bunch of Bosnians and Albanians turned your communist forces into shishkebab
Serbia's main exports are bottled Albanian cum, pedophiles, and shit-eating champions. The average wage in Serbia is able to cover the costs of food, alcohol, shelter, drugs, and the traditional daily blowjob. Blowjob workers make up a considerable amount of the public sector workforce, and recently heavy competition from Albania has driven down prices, forcing blowjob workers to suck even harder.
Serbian people are constantly crazed about stealing land in Europe which leads them to never shut up about the Yugoslav wars. Scientific research clearly show that serbs are sexually aroused by war and death. They possess a disorder all Serbs have which is their sexual desire towards the now dead Slobodan Milosevic & his anti-Bosnian speeches; to find them they use the internets videos featured on YouTube (which they wank off to every night) since they have a strong interest in necrophilia
>>543765750Serbians often brag because their country fired one missile at the NATO forces, but really never admit that they were defeated when NATO fired their shit back; Serbians will continue to insult anyone who doesn't think the same way, but they secretly know their country is the smelliest and worst shit hole in all of the Balkans.
>>543763622You have to understand its not about the numbers or anything but Croatians and Serbians have ethnic cleansing in their DNA I am Croatian diaspora and naturally became racist even though I wasn't exposed to other races where I was raised just because of t he racist energy flowing in my veins
>>543765750>This level of delusionTha k you Tonibler>Albanians name their kid after Tony Blair>Meet tonibler
>>543765448I thought Serbs and Greeks were tight and united?
>>543765561this is an albanian transplant
>>543765874He's Albanian, >>543765305 >>543765218
>>543765119we shouldn't stop till it's like this
>>543765869Albanians have both Kosovo and FYROM as strongholds, plus Bosnia OWNS Srpska Republiko. You call me an Albanian, you call me a victor
>>543765874Only cause we don't border eachother>>543765919This is a Serboshrek trans, no plant necessary
Sara, an Albanian woman and a victim of child trafficking, says she's terrified to go back>Since the late 1990s, Albania has had a reputation as a global leader in human trafficking.>ECPAT Albania estimated that in 2018 alone, over 5,000 Albanian children were victims of international trafficking.>Albanian Law Does Not Protect Children From Being Exploited Through ProstitutionSara, an Albanian woman and a victim of child trafficking, says she's terrified to go back>Since the late 1990s, Albania has had a reputation as a global leader in human trafficking.>ECPAT Albania estimated that in 2018 alone, over 5,000 Albanian children were victims of international trafficking.>Albanian Law Does Not Protect Children From Being Exploited Through Prostitution
>>543760947Croatia's entire existence is subsided by backstabbing us for foreign powers.
>>543765973
>>543765943
>>543766066>>543766032Remember guys, every time he shits on the red and the black, he really says "this is who BTFO us!"
>>543766146Glad you made it overseas, brat
>>543766149How did such lowly people beat you?
>>543766167Das rite the famous Albanian stealth bombers and the infamous >>543765632
>>543766243>LowlyDon't speak so low about yourself, you're Illyrians and ancient egyptianz n former ottomans, supapoopa ALBANIA
>>543766282I thought you shot them down? How did those measly bombers do you in? Are you claiming Serbia is not numba 1 in the world?
>>543766243Your masters helped.
>>543766332Aren't you the guys claiming Constantine the Great as Serbian cause of his illyrian heritage? Fuck off
>>543766336t. 165cm midget who can give me a blowjob while standingGo back to your shithole. >>543765218
>>543763303Really got the eternal serb riled up kek
>>543766424Albania and Kosovo turned you into hummus, LMAO
>>543766474The difficulty in understanding the Serb is that their culture is centered around gypsies. They have holidays for gypsies. They killed hundreds of thousands of white men to free gypsies. They listen to gypsy music. They elect a gypsy as their president. They dress and act like gypsies. They draw the entirety of their modern culture from gypsies. They post sassy gifs about gypsies. They watch music shows in worship of gypsies. Their biggest event of the year involves throwing parties during gypsy holidays (Djurdjevdan - Saint George's Day). They use gypsy slang like "pula" (dick, cock) and "undje" (where). Their cities are completely overrun with gypsies. Their men sit around watching gypsy reality television while their women sit around watching gypsy music shows. They worship gypsies like Šaban Šaulić and Ljuba Aličić and Džej Ramadanovski and the late Sinan Sakić while attacking white Europeans who actually built their country before gypsies took over. Their movies are filled with gypsies (see Emir Kusturica) and their music charts are topped by gypsy singers. They send gypsies to other European countries and celebrate when gypsies steal money and belongings from native European people. Serbia has always been and will be a nation of gypsy loving gypsies. The gypsy Serb is an outright barbarian, drunkard, thief and uncultured son of a bitch.
>>543766384No one's doing that. We're not you, we just acknowledge he was born in modern Serbian borders, while you try to larp as Illyrians despite being just one of hundred brown Paleo-balkan tribe and Illyrian being an umbrella term.It's like me larping as a Pole and claiming all Poles to be Serbs akshually, just because we're both Slavic.
>>543766350Turns out neutrality can be a detriment, you support no one and no one supports you
>>543766513If you rely on external support you're nothing but a whore.
>>543766507By your logic, even dinosaurs can be Serbian chetniks if found in Vojvodina. I don't like muzzie Albanians, but illyrians have a history in the Balkans
>>543766513Das rite, now you support them back by committing more crime than Afghanis as a thank you >>543766282
>>543766571Every Balkan nation descends from some foreign backed insurgency, sit down prideful lot
>>543766672I'll give you $5 to tongue my anus and fuck off, whore.
>>543766701Kiss my ass, Roma gypsy boy
>>543766582>Albanian IQNo, because we're not claiming him as one of ours, just acknowledging where he's born. On the other hand, you larp as Illyrians, which we do not do.>I don't like muzzle AlbaniansKosovo is 98% MuslimAlbania is 8% christianWorldwide Albanians as an ethnic group counting >>543765218 is 3% christian.Middle eastern Syria is 10% christian pre-war, more than Albania
>>543766649That's who you lost to, that's what you get. Every post you make against Albania, you make against yourself
>>543766728Your dad pimps your 7 yo sister to niggers, whore.
>>543766763Lmao. One city in Serbia with a population of 50k exports more than your shithole without toilets with a population of 2 million. Your entire existence depends on the mood of Donald Trump.
>>543766759That's alright with them being Muslim. I don't like that anymore than you do. I do know that Albanians have a heritage of antiquity though, and if you call it reconstructed, a lot of things fall on that label>>543766787Moldovan town rapist said WUT?
>>543766728>Albanian thinks he's whiter than Romanians
>>543766838>whore's mad I didn't pay his dad $1 to fuck his 7 yo sister
>>543766826Your biggest dream is making it into the EU, and being a respectable sub-regional power. Let's not play with Donald trump
>>543766872Albanians could be coal back. That makes the BBC humiliations of Serbia worse
>>543766927A lot of talk about child fucking coming from you, gypsy. You've got more crabs than you got hair down there
>>543766960>BBC humiliationThat's no way to talk about your owners in Washington. There's no humiliation in losing to the US, there is in being irrelevant throughout your history, naming your kids after Tony Blair >>543765869And erecting statues of bill Clinton >>543766649, as well as having all your generals killed despite NATO help >>543765632.You're an irrelevant shithole that was a useful idiot for the Ottomans, as per >>543765597, and now the US. Serbs, as a small West Slavic tribe in medieval ages, conquered your entire modern borders before you even inhabited all of them, and the entire peninsula of other brown Paleo-balkan tribes. It had an empire two times, something you never had without we wuzzing.
>>543767195>Small West Slavic tribe conquers his modern day shithole and the entire peninsula despite being vastly outnumbered>This sends him in a frenzy>>543766424https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Serbia
>>543767195I do appreciate the Serbian empire, notably how it lasted one generation, and how it aided the Turks in the fall of the fucking Roman Empire
>>543760947Why are you worried about Balkans? Your own country has been under islamic control for years and where were you when that happened, ya weak faggot? Yeah, you were busy dying your hair blue and beating off to black gay porn.
>>543767195>>543767286
>>543767286Outnumbered? Slavs poured into our Greek lands, and turned them alien
>>543766986I speak about fucking animal cubs, you don't classify as humans.
>>543767291Debunked by one google search. >>543765597Serbian empire losing the battle in Kosovo is basically what settled the ottoman invasion into the Balkans, and you became their most loyal vassal ever since.
>>543767355Your dreams disturb the goats and the chickens, Roma cigany, armata strigoi
>>543767393>>543767291>When comparing who fought more for (rather than against) the Ottoman Empire, Albanians fought for the Ottomans significantly more in terms of overall duration, numbers, and high-level strategic impact.
>>543767393You lost Kosovo back then, you lost it now too. History rhymes. Muslims took your kids and made them jannisaries
>>543767463Bosnians did a lot for the Turkish realm too, and what are they? Muslim Serbs
>>543767423Goats and chicken are useful to people, unlike you animals.
>>543767549A lot of hate coming from the sultan's tributary corps
>>543767476They lost Kosovo to Ottomans and to Americans. Where do Analbananians fit in?
>>543767683That's the same shit they say about Ukraine, as if the guys on the ground are American veteran cohorts, lmao nigger cope
>>543767609You perceive truth as hate-speech.
>>543767729>randomly bringing up another whore in the discussionWill this make you less of a whore?
>>543767763You don't have a fucking toilet, borat's son
>>543767831It is the same shit, wow America saves the day! Just fuck off will you? Child fucker, animal lover
>>543767851I don't need a toilet. I piss and shit in your sister's mouth for free.
>>543767891Peepee poopoo is the Romanian identity, there's nothing behind your two eyes other than mudblood malice
>>543767878>America saves the day!All it took for Kosovo to break away was turning Albania in a whore of Saud and the Clintons. Big win. Now you sell drugs and your sister's cunny in Greece.
>>543765448Kill yourself turkshit and leave Greece you filthy brown nigger.
>>543767939Big words for the brother of my toilet.
>>543767991Muh Clintons. Muh saudis! What is this, 2016? Go rape your father jeet
>>543768037You're the whore of other people now? Sorry for not keeping up to date with Albanian national identity.
>>543768037Suck more jewish mutt cock brownoid analbaboonian lmfao
>>543768030Whore of the Latins, aspirational Italian
>>543768103You're the one who brought them up retardo, muh clintons lmao
>>543768130>>543768023Bosnia has Serbia IN it, you've lost the fight and the plot
>>543768133Romanians are GODS to you filthy vermin.It's always funny how ALL of you post from ANY country except Analbania.Your country is SO GOOD that you infest every nation except analbania, you pathetic little shit.
>>543768133Latins were defeated by Romans long before they expanded to Dacia. Try again Maggotmet.
>>543768220What the fuck is this nigger talking about? LOL the Latins were defeated by Rome!
>>543768190Go back to analbaboonia nigger, why are you so pathetic and parasitic?
>>543768154You were fucked by so many clients that you forgot who's the last guy that paid you?
>>543768219>>543768258Half your country has already left it, no one wants to be serbshit no more
>>543768292Kekkkkk the history of analbanians right there
>>543768241It seems that European history eludes Maggotmedans.
>>543768292Albanians fought a war for independence, and America joined in on a struggle deemed righteous. The fact that you see whoredom is a Russian thirdworldist mentality
>>543768355According to this nigger, the Romans were not Latin!
>>543768312Cope and seethe more lmfao we are actually even more in love with our country, serbs are coming back in record numbers and we live pretty good.You wouldnt understand that as a parasitic western leech from shithole analbaboonia KEKKKK
>>543768359Pimping your children to niggers isn't a war of independence.
>>543768416Serbs are coming back home, THANK GOD
>>543768359You didnt fight shit, you were hiding in basements like rats while us real men fought each other.
>>543768461Dunno where that came from, I bet some bigdick Albanian fucked you in your youth, that's ALL you can talk about now
>>543768190Bosnia and Herzegovina is a federation that includes the former and Republika Srpska. The head of state is a German, and all 3 entities have their own president and equal power. Republika srpska is the larger entity, 50% of Bosnia, while the Bosnian Muslim entity is 27%, or almost half the size. Republika srpska has equal power and representation within the federation as the Bosnian Muslim and Croatian entity, except its also much larger. Republika srpska has its own president, police force, and a Bosnian Muslim can't even wave the Bosnian flag in it, while I can cross into Srpska with no border controls and wave the Serbian flag in half of Bosnia. Republika srpska itself is larger than Kosovo and Albania combined.Unlike Kosovo, whose existence is against international law and will never get to join the UN or the EU as such, Srpska already has the legal grounds to secede legally in the near future, unlike Kosovo.
>>543768388According to Maggotmedans Romans didn't conquer the Latins before they became an empire.
>>543768501I'm sorry I have to be the one to remind you that you're the whore of the Balkans and your only achievement was pimping your sister to pedophile niggers.
>>543768710>>543768529I don't know what muzzies think, I'm not arguing from their perspective, any more than Jewish folklore about maternal lineage
>>543768477Real men, like who? You fought an American fucking army, they walked into Posavina? Who did you fight?
>>543768915I never called you a Muslim. You are Maggotmedan, fake Islamist that is only useful to provide his sister as a whore to Turks, Arabs and niggers.
>>543768525I find it really hard to believe that you can't wave a Bosnian flag in half the country of Bosnia, which includes Srpska
>>543768983You're just inventing your own lexicon like an autist, you seem a tad bit fucked in the head
>>543769038Awww, little Maggotmedan is upset? Don't worry, tonight I'm going to pay your dad $1 for your whore sister instead of taking her for free.
>>543769127In your lust for cunny you've turned into a wild animal
>>543769004Bosnia = name of a riverBosnian Serb = half of BosniaBosnian Muslim = 27% of BosniaBosnian Croats = 23% of Bosnia>I find it hard to believe you can't wave the Bosnian flag.You get arrested by the police of Republika srpska, which is listening to its president and has more legal footing than Kosovo which sacrificed its future legally right at the start, unlike SrpskaDid I say it's larger than Albania and Kosovo combined?
>>543769240
>>543769186That's no way to talk to your sister's client, learn some manners or you'll never be a successful pimp like your father.
>>543769240>>543769284
>>543769287That's why the balkans are so fucked up, a guy is trying for a real talk and you're just focused on kid rape, that's all the roma mind can fathom
>>543769240>>543769284>>543769309
>>543769240Sounds like they're tolerant of you, legalistic, fair one might say. You brag of genociding them, they are fine with you being alive. You sound like a subhuman in turn
>>543769322You do know that Serbs in the south unironically purchase Albanian wives? It was a huge news article 6 years ago. This is combined with what he's saying about you selling child prostitutes to Italy and Greece >>543766032 Hell, for all I know, you may be a product of such a transaction yourself.
>>543769322It's not rape if your father consented to it. Just ask the Clinton crime family.
>>543769452Clintons haunt this niggas dreams. You fantasize about Seth rich too? Bill Clinton the secret Albanian guys!
>>543769497You deny whoring yourselves and your children to the Clintons?
>>543769430When Turks talk of defiling the slavs, let us then remember they're both cut out of the same rapist cloth
>>543769366L O L, they advocated for ethnic cleansing of Croats and Serbs before the war even began. The war started when a Mudslime killed a christian at a wedding, who he didn't even know. >Osama bin Laden served as a military adviser to the Bosnian president, Alija Izetbegović, in 1992-94>>The Declaration designated Pakistan as a model country to be emulated by Muslim revolutionaries worldwide.[15] One of the passages that was in particular picked out by his opponents was, "There can be no peace or coexistence between the Islamic faith and non-Islamic social and political institutions...the state should be an expression of religion and should support its moral concepts."[14]>The Islamic Declaration (Bosnian: Islamska deklaracija) is an essay written by Alija Izetbegović (1925–2003), republished in 1990 in Sarajevo, SR Bosnia and Herzegovina, SFR Yugoslavia.>Alija Izetbegović (Bosnian pronunciation: [ǎlija ǐzedbeɡoʋitɕ]; 8 August 1925 – 19 October 2003) was a Bosnian politician, Islamic philosopher and author, who in 1992 became the first president of the Presidency of the newly independent Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina.>Bosniak leader, Alija Izetbegovic wrote a book "Islamic declaration", in which he advocated for ethnic cleansing of Christians (both Catholic and Orthodox) from Bosnia because "Christians cannot live alongside Muslims and claimed the only way for Muslims to have their own country is if they ethnically cleansed all the Christians". For this, he was jailed in Yugoslavia by Tito and considered a terrorist. This was before any of the wars.
>>543769531I think you're overextending the Clinton angle, like trump and Iran
>>543769547You and Turks? Yeah.
>>543769553It's up to them, not you, they had the Victory and the support, remember? They didn't do it while you brag of having done it
>>543769584You mean I shouldn't mention how you offered your children for sex with niggers so they'll bomb children in Belgrade?
>>543769610All that talk about outnumbering is bogus, when slavs moved into the balkans so heavily. They might not have outnumbered Egypt, but where they went, they displaced.
>>543769686It does sound like a fan fiction, written by one deranged roma obsessed with the topic....
>>543760947no serbia would join the turkroach side
>>543769713A well established FACT. You can check the archives.
>>543769772Which archives, fucking 4plebs?
>>543769617It's not up to them and they did not have the victory, which is why the Dayton agreement is what it is, and why they are 27% of the Federation, while RS is 50% with all equal powers. It's up to the Dayton agreement, which they signed as absolute losers, seeing that Vučić was sniping them from the hills of Sarajevo while they were powerless pigs for slaughter, and seeing that Ratko Mladić had a 4:1 kdr against UN, Mujahideens from Arab countries, and sometimes even 10:1 against Bosnian Muslims themselves.Unlike you, they didn't luck out with the US wanting a new base for their army, they only had Mujahideens from the middle east and UN, like you also did.
>>543769835Certainly not the reddit archives. Go on, search and let's see how you cope with the truth.
>>543769839>It's up to the Dayton agreement, which they signed as absolute losers, seeing that Vučić was sniping them from the hills of Sarajevo while they were powerless pigs for slaughter, and seeing that Ratko Mladić had a 4:1 kdr against UN, Mujahideens from Arab countries, and sometimes even 10:1 against Bosnian Muslims themselves.Not really any different from you minus the US involvement >>543765632
>>543769839Here we go with KD ratio autism, that's the same shit they said in Barbarossa and look how that turned out, in Vietnam too! You say these Bosnians are westernized and aligned with some form of non prejudice, that doesn't sound worse than a guy openly bragging to being mass killers. Maybe that's why they helped them out, cause they weren't fucking dickheads like you
>>543769950Silence, retard.
>>543769892What the hell do you think can be found in a humble 4chan archive, the apple of eden? At most I'll find a guy like you talking about boy rape, you have to apply yourself here and list something
>>543770006>no more Turkish pies made from Posavina's golden wheat!LMAO
>>543770018There's a reason why I mentioned so many times that you Maggotmedans pimp your own children and you are the whores of the Balkans.
>>543770045Those are Serbian lyrics, absolute retard, as a mockery of Muslims, since you all collectively referred to yourself as Turks until the ottoman empire fell.
>>543770111The way you say it sounds deranged and totalizing, just wartime hearsay, like what's for reading? 4chan posts, come on
>>543770137That is the point you fucking ingrate, "Not even America has such an army!" WOW
>>543770045>>543770137>>543770206T.
>>543770272That's why it's tough to have the collaboration conversation, cause the guys that helped them became Turks. You genocided your own countrymen
>>543770341No, it's really not hard to have that conversation. The list of your conflicts against the ottomans is smaller than one decade of ours. >>543764991Also, a single google search tells you who collaborated more in 0.25s, or 20s if you're in albanig, which you're not. >>543765597>You genocided yoursNo, we did not, hence Bosnian Muslims exist in Bosnia and Sandžak, Serbia, as well as Montenegro.
>>543770508Earlier you were saying you cleaned your country up, now we're walking that back? Guess all the remove kebab talk was playful. Albanians collaborated with Turks more because Serbs that converted and collaborated didn't count as Serbs anymore, you can understand how your point proves mine if you apply yourself a bit
>>543770617We cleaned the peninsula of ethnic Turks, not Bosnian Muslims. Evidently, we didn't even clean it of you, which we should've twice. You hid those same Turks and assimilated them, which is why you now have 50k in Kosovo, not counting assimilated.>PlayfulIt's on Wikipedia.>Because Serbs who converted didn't count as Serbs anymoreNo, Muslims in the Sandžak region used the same identifier you used until 1970s in Yugoslavia, when they adopted the BosniaK (Bosnian Muslim) identity. Until then, they were the same thing your entire country became, and no, we did not genocide them, only ethnic Turks where you did not hide them. >>543765058>>543765119
>>543770797>Muslims in the Sandžak region used the same identifier you used until 1970s in Yugoslavia, when they adopted the BosniaK (Bosnian Muslim) identityBy that I mean the "Turk" identifier.
>>543770797Of course it says Serbs were reluctant, because the guys that did collaborate and convert either became Bosnians or Turks. It's like saying Greeks didn't collaborate with Turks, but all of Asia Minor is now Turkish, someone fucking did mate
>>543770899>The guy is too low IQ to process my post>They became bosnians or TurksNo, they did not become bosnians as evident by the ottoman, Austrian and Yugoslav censuses until 1971, which is when the Serb converts in Sandžak adopted the Bosnian Muslim identity.>Became TurksYes, just like your entire country, except that underneath that was the linguistic identifier. So, irrelevant yet again. There is nothing complicated in this discussion, only that you cannot cope with the reality, but we've already acknowledged you lied at the very start of this thread and that you are not concerned with the truth, only izzat.
>>543770899Also, since you're so low IQ, Bosnian = regional term. Bosnian Croat, Bosnian Serb, Bosnian Muslim (Bosniak, adopted in 1970s). A Bosnian can mean a Serb ethnically, as well as a Croat.
>>543771033Then what does it mean to identity with Turks? You posted the image of identity, that already muddies the ethnicity discussion, what does it mean for you?>>543771138Was there no pole of allegiance, in that Catholics saw common ground with Croatia, the orthodox with Serbia and the muslims with Bosnia? Frankly not even language sets you three apart
>>543771295If it were to muddy anything, it'd muddy it in the favor of christian Albanians which are a statistical error (2% of Kosovo, 8% of Albania and 3-4% of Albanian ethnicity). That would be enough to completely tip it in your favor, yet it does not.What it means for me doesn't matter, there's a historical consensus for what it means, and it was explained in the very first image on this subtopic >>543770272>Yes, Balkan Muslims often used or accepted the label Turk as a religious and political descriptor rather than a modern ethnic one>though they primarily identified by their local heritage, language, and loyalty to Islam and the sultan.>>543771295>Was there no pole of allegiance, in that Catholics saw common ground with Croatia, the orthodox with Serbia and the muslims with Bosnia? Frankly not even language sets you three apartOf course there was, except that Muslims called themselves "Muslims" and "Turks", just like you have Bulgarian Turks right now, who are really just Bulgarian Muslims and not ethnic Turks. The BosniaK identity was adopted in 1970s with a political goal in order to present the Muslims as the only indigenous people to the region of Bosnia.
>>543771565>The BosniaK identity was adopted in 1970s with a political goal in order to present the Muslims as the only indigenous people to the region of Bosnia.Even though they only became the main ethnic group between 1961-1971, exacerbated by Serbian losses in WW1 where around 1/3 of the population died and 1/2 of all males, in order to free Bosnia (which was plurality Serbian back then) from foreign rule, just like the war against the ottomans a year prior that, with greece and Bulgaria, kicked them out of the Balkans until the west decided to let them keep Constantinople at Greece's expense.[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_mujahideen#[2]https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%84%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0_%D0%91%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B5_%D0%B8_%D0%A5%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%86%D0%B5%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B5[3]1981 Yugoslavia ethnic census - https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%B0:Bosnia_Herzegovina_Ethnic_1981.png[4]2013 - ethnic census Bosnia and Herzegovina -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_population_census_in_Bosnia_and_Herzegovina[5]Austrian population census of Bosnia 1879https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1879_population_census_in_Bosnia_and_Herzegovina
>>543771565It was a civic nationalism then, a different thing from what we see down in the south. Stop with the Christian Albanian thing, I can't speak for them, I don't know their talking points, I speak from the perspective of one whose country is torn, because Greece used to be a world and now it is an island, and to become a turk meant more than just being a civic patriot. Your nation is of three tribes divided by creed, and whenever one changes their creed personally, they end up aligning with the other of the three tribes. Did Serbia collaborate with the Turks? I think it did for hundreds of years, just like the church did, if someone did collaborate it was the Bosnians since they converted. I count that as the tribe that Serbs belong to, apostasizing by a significant percentage, and if it was allowed for more time, it would have simply gotten worse. Is that controversial to you?
>>543772323Albania is not Greece, and you are not Greek, as evidenced by >>543765305, just like Serbia is not Slovenia, or, more realistically, not Poland or Russia.Albania clusters between Italy and turkey, with you being the one in-between them and Turkey. The distance is the same distance as between Serbs and Hungarians. Are Serbs and Hungarians the same people? The distance is only slightly smaller than between Serbs and Austrians. They cluster reasonably close to you, yet completely unrelated besides for shared ancestors thousands of years ago and being Paleo-balkaners and west Anatolians. Right now, you're only marginally more paleo-balkan than Serbs or Croats >>543769610>Did Serbia collaborate with TurksOnly as a vassal, far less than Albanians, just like Greeks did too, for a century, not centuries, after the Serbian empire fell in the battle of Kosovo, which cemented ottoman rule over the Balkans. You entered the thread and posted a vassal Serbian state, purposefully leaving out the context, several Serbian factions who fought on the other side, and the fact that among the Croatian and Austrian-Hungarian soldiers were also a ton of Serbs, who were given permission to settle Austrian land in exchange for military protection.You also posted it knowing damn well Serbia has the largest list of conflicts against the ottomans, and knowing Albanians and other Muslims collaborated far more than Serbs did.>BosniansBosnian Muslims. Bosnian Serbs and Croats did not. I don't particularly care.
>>543772864>>543772864>Albania clusters between Italy and turkeyBy that I mean southern Italy, the genetic distance between northern Italians and Albanians is the same as between Western Turks and Albanians.
>>543772864I did it knowing I'd offend a passing Serb, cause everyone in the balkans has a chip on their shoulder. Romanians say they never knelt, Bulgarians are too proud to admit defeat, Serbs say they gave them hell, Albanians talk of their Skanderbeg, like no one fucking lost? I can't accept that, something happened and it was debauchery. The only thing you've proven is that you're asshurt about it, I'm drawing the poison from the snakebite and you can't admit that mighty Serbia got brought low by forces outside their control
>>543773106We have the archive, your lies can only convince the most braindead person.
>>543773106>>543773301
>>543773410>>543773301I dunno who the fuck that is, I've got some leaf calling me Rothmus, I don't know what you people are going off of
>>543773518You were saying the same schizo uneducated garbage 2 weeks ago, when you admitted you're Albanian. Get a grip, do a backflip and kys.
>>543773652Every greek flag is the same dude, lads! Man you're terminally online
>>543773679There is indeed likely only one Greek flag with a positive attitude about Albanians, however you're repeating the same talking points over and over again.
>>543773791I don't have a positive opinion about Albanians, that's the funny thing. I agree they're a criminal enterprise masquerading as a country, but your prideful manner makes me attack you TOO
>>543773679>>543773791Not to mention you spoke about Albania as "we" and "us" in this very thread, while referring to Greeks as "they"
>>543773895Now that you're gonna have to prove
>>543773939>You call me an Albanian, you call me a victorI think I proved plenty and remember you from the previous thread, seems like you're doing the classical divide and conquer. In the end, Greeks and Serbs will split your and Turkish skulls in half
>>543774296Yeah, if you call me an Albanian, you're calling me a guy that beat you in wartime. I don't see how that proves anything
>>543774296And there is no previous thread, the fact that you have an elephant memory, memorizing threads from weeks ago that I wasn't even part of, makes you seem like quite the obsessive faggot, as if all greeks are fucking legion
>>543774348Famous Albanian stealth bombers. See >>543765632 and >>543766759. I don't know if there exists a war that you actually won by yourself, hell, even your independence from the ottomans is due to Serbs.
>>543774533Blame them for having an ally, if you hadn't been playing neutral maybe you'd have had one too
