Welcome back. Last time I jumped around a bit, skipping some pages in the middle. But this time is different. This time I'll only focus on those pages in the middle, and forget about the pages at the beginning, and then I'll completely forego the pages at the end, which comprise most of the rest of the book. But in the end I should have riffed enough on all of them that you'll be fairly entertained. This thread will cover >What Christians Should Know About Jews and Judaism (1984) by Rabbi Yechiel EcksteinWe will go over Pages 34-39. Later threads will cover the rest.What is judeo-christianity, and why is it a grift? The term judeo-christian is propaganda aimed at ingratiating and obligating Christians to support the religious and political aims of jews. The idea is that Christianity developed in parallel with judaism, and that the two religions are part of the same general tradition. This is asserted in a vague fashion that never gets around to any specific interaction beyond glittering generalities and oblique references to the canon of the New Testament, and from there it usually skips from 60AD to 1936AD. Therefore, the judeo-christian has very little historical familiarity, and will assent to the following generalities>jews and christians are brothers in faith>jews and christians worship the same god>jesus was jewish>god blesses those who bless israel>christians were always evil oppressors of jews, and have to make amends foreverThese statements, intended for people who aren't thinking or who want them to be true, are all some form of lie, and cannot stand up to scrutiny. But as you read through this book, written by an Orthodox rabbi, it will become clear that you aren't supposed to scrutinize anything, you're supposed to take his word for it. The final position sought is your rejection of Jesus, in favor of the anti-Christ Noahide cult.see previous thread>>534828711
>>543900218These bits all lead into the basics of Noahidism, the head decapitation jew cult that the Bushes conspired with the rebbe to codify some decades back. The religious concept of judeo-christianity sets the groundwork for noahidism, as the author implies in the affirmative, that Christians can and should all become Noahides in order to fulfill their obligation to jews. Zionism, for those who claim to be christians, is frequently justified on the basis of the general framework of 'judeo-christianity', which itself is, as a term, a shorthand for many other doctrinal positions and theological arguments, which are generally associated with Dispensational theology, and the teachings of John Nelson Darby, and C.I. Schofield. This vein of theology has been encouraged by such commercial interests as the Rothschild bank and Union Oil, and is a central foundation for the continued support on religious grounds by many people for the state of israel.This book builds on the foundations of dispensationalism laid in the 1800s and early 20th century, to serve as a primer for people operating within spheres of influence within the churches, mostly liberals, to bring the churches into line with the agendas of jews. That it requires that these doctrinal precepts be taught, is a tacit admission that the doctrines of dispinsationalism are new. And because they are new, they are therefore not original to Christian teaching. You will notice that the writer insists on his own authority, but shrewdly by insisting that he only wants to be friends, and that the basis of that friendship should take the form that he lays out, namely your predisposition to accepting of his position as the authority.If a person goes through the book, without pushing back, then the assumption is that you want him to be right, or find him persuasive, and that you can be lead into his final objects.>>>>>>>>>>>>
>Will Peter Schaefer's new book, Jesus in the Talmud (Mar.), be controversial? "I'm afraid so," Schaefer told RBL. "That's why I'm nervous.">His editor at Princeton University Press, Brigitta van Rheinberg, laughed but agreed: "You think, oh, whoa, this is not going to go over well in certain circles.">Schaefer, who heads up Princeton's Judaic studies program, has collected and analyzed all the passages in the Talmud that apparently refer to the founder of Christianity, texts that were previously censored from Talmud editions for centuries. In his book he argues—against other scholars—that the scandalous passages indeed refer not to some other figure of ancient times but to the famous Jesus of Nazareth.>What exactly is so scandalous? How about Jesus punished in Hell for eternity by being made to sit in a cauldron of boiling excrement? That image appears in early manuscripts of the Babylonian Talmud, as does a brief account of Jesus' trial and execution—not by the Romans but by the Jewish high court, the Sanhedrin. The Jewish community, to the extent Jews were even aware of these excised texts, has been content to let them remain obscure and unknown.https://web.archive.org/web/20090308055522/http://www.publishersweekly.com/article/CA6411679.html
>>543900218>>543900297A brief recapPg34The rabbi insists todays jews possess the promises made to abraham, the hebrews and the ancient israelites, because of "the Fact that the bible SEEMS to Regard" jews as eternally chosen to be correct.Don't like it? Well you must not be a Real Christian . . . according to this rabbi.Somehow all the Christians got the same idea that jews are not chosen, judaism is invalid, and that people must accept Jesus Christ and be saved. Clearly, these Christians all misunderstood the bible and Christianity. Eckstein's reading of the bible says that HE is right, and jews are always right, so if you disagree, you must hate Jesus. What, you think you know better than a rabbi?The jews aren't illigitimate, and if you disagree they'll go around in circles redefining words on the fly to trap you into their narrative, until you capitulate to their view.judaism is a hundred rabbis in an elevator insisting that YOU farted.
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>>543900218>>543900358Pg 35A cartoon claims that Christianity is jewish, not Mosaic, Hebrew or from Abraham. Oh and also the rabbi says that the bible says Christians are grafted into the root of judaism, not into Christ. The cartoon suggests that ancient israelites, at sinai, were exactly like jews today. No difference, and the Christians changed all that.What? His cartoon drawing doesn't convince you? Anachronistic bait and switch, you say?Well, even if judaism is based on rabbinic traditions which didn't exist at the time of Moses, it had JEWISH ROOTS. Those are the roots of being whatever the rabbis of today say happened in the past, and the rabbis say that the israelis are jews, and israel has always been jewish, so whatever that means now, it must have meant it 3500 years ago. The rabbis are in charge and they say, today, that they had that authority to say make any rule from the beginning.What? You say "jewish" is a dishonest misnomer and that they've changed so much that judaism is just a religious ship of theseus?You sound like a Hellenist!
>>543900218>>543900472pg36 ln 3-5>moreover, claimed the pharisees, the shekhina, or "Divince Presence," went into exile along with themI wonder who exiled the jews? If the divine presence didn't leave them, maybe the god of the jews was too weak to protect them, because it got kicked out too. Rome must have been tougher than whatever the jews worshipped, because they kicked them BOTH out. When he said they were exiled, I almost thought the jews had done something wrong, but that couldn't be it, because the Divine Presence was Exiled too!The rabbis say so. Ln 5-8>By the end of the second century, Pharisaic Judaism had become normative judaism; its overall theology and religious institutions continue to be valid and compelling for jews rodaySo, if the traditions and theology of Pharisaic judaism BECAME normative, then they were originally not normative. Therefore, the original was different from what is taught by pharasaic judaism, and had different precepts. If you don't pay attention to this argument, and its constituent premises, you'll miss how flimsy their theology is.So what was decided by a committee after the fall of the second temple justifies what they teach was part of the original oral law before the first temple was even built? It turns out that judaism has a time machine, and can redact it's modern interpretations back into the original teaching from Moses. Incredible.This principal of redactive sanction covers anything and everything, including the divine sanction of any 'oral tradition' in the first place. >But what if they find something confusing?Well then clearly, they should justify leaving a gentile in a hole to die of exposure, (avodah Zarah 26b) by taking his ladder. When God said not to kill, he obviously meant that killing people by intentional negligence was a moral good. Morality means secret rules explaining how everyone else are animals meant to serve you, that's what the law of Moses REALLY meant, according to the rabbis.
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>>543900218>>543900508Pr 2>one of the central ingredients of pharasaic doctrine was the affirmation that ALREADY from the time of Moses and Sinai there was an oral tradition elucidating and accompanying the written one.His assertion is that the existence of an oral tradition proves its legitimate sanction by God. Their existence at sinai is pure speculation, but he argues they did to let his real point, the assertion of their legitimacy, slip by. The pharasaic interpretation of Exodus 18:20 and Deut 5:28, et. al, must be sacrosanct to give their tradition equal weight to the scriptures. Or, as they say now, 'the Talmud is the word of G-d, not of man.'>I'm right because God says I'm right>Where does God say that?>in this passage that I say shows that I'm right>That passage doesn't mention you>well I say that it does, and so does God>Where?>in that passage that I say says I'm rightIf rabbinic judaism is the correct form, and they already had it, why would God bother with the temple? Why make a parallel secret torah? Why not write it all down to begin with? Wouldn't it settle the matter, that the law is whatever the majority claim at the moment, to have made it explicit? Why is the god of the jews so obsessed with being vague, and misdirecting people, by not telling them the whole story?Of course, if the cryptic secrecy is really an admission that many who claimed to be israelites were in fact phoenecians, edomites and assorted converts with no familiarity or connection with ancient israel, then it makes more sense that they would be as puzzled with the nature of hebrew customs as immigrants to America are with White customs. >whaaat? i'm not an ignorant caananite half breed, it's just that G-D of israel being tricky again. A sukkot must mean that anywhere we pitch a tent is ours. Whaat? 'Remembering our time as slaves in Egypt?' Preposterous, we are all Free Men, and have never been enslaved to anybody! We were never slaves in egypt, do you hear? Never!
>>543900218>>543900622pg36 para 2 Ln 4-8>This oral tradition, or at least the hermetutical framework from which it evolved, was believed to have also been revealed by God to Moses . . . and was expounded upon and applied by rabbinic scholars from generation to generation.TraditionOr at leastFrameworkEvolvedWas believedRevealedWas expounded uponApplied byfrom generation to generationNine degrees of speculative separation of rabbinic justification from premise to practice. 9 coin flips where you have to believe him uncritically. 9 just so presuppositions, redactively justifying for his position. But this is just his argument for you the Christian. He doesn't have to take it as seriously, because, after all, he is on the inside. You the Christian have to do all the heavy lifting for his ponzi scheme to function. If he lies, no one would know, because this interpretation of religious authority is wholly in the mouth of the rabbis. It relies on their witness alone, and their interpretation alone, which is all the same thing. It relies on their witness, because the 'teaching of the previous generations' was oral, and passed only between 'the initiated', and so it can be whatever they say it was. It is interpreted by them alone, because only 'the initiated', rabbis or sages, or whatever term he uses interchangeably at any given time, had the right to interpret the scripture, and even a person who disputed the majority was wrong by default, making 'the initiated' infallible by default.That the written word finally came to the talmud proved only a minor challenge to the whole business, easily resolved by the rule, strangely not subject to reinterpretation, that no new ruling of the rabbis may contradict any previous ruling. This is roughly the same as a legal precedent, or to put it another way, legal precedent allows judges to behave like rabbis.
>>543900218>>543900670pg 36 para 2 line 12-14>the cryptic references of the Tora, therefore, seem to presume and to prove the existence of an oral tradition expounding upon the written one. >cryptic references>seem>presume>prove>oral tradition>expoundingsix definite possible maybes to get from it being their opinion to having authority. if it is only opinions, the rabbis cannot rule the people, and moreover, the saducees would not be morally disarmed!line 14-17>Thus the oral tradition injects into the written tradition both content and relevance, thereby enabling the jew to use it as a guide for his daily life.Injects? Yes. Injects. the Oral tradition, which became the Talmud, injects it's teaching and asserts it's addictive tendency into the brain, just like theological heroin. Marx could see this too, if you recall his snip about 'religion', but he only knew judaism.para 2 line 17-18>It was to remain fluid, and resilient to change and adaption in light of the conditions of the times.So change it to anything, but always assert that everything taught before is totally correct too? You'll have to make a lot of work arounds and exceptions to get away with teaching like that. You'll have to lean in and chuckle that you're going to let your followers in on the REAL Super Double Secret teachings that you can't get from the other rabbis, ONLY you have the secrets . . . You're hiram abiff.And the best part is that you can always take aside the richest and most gullible jews in your synagog and tell them the same line you just used on everybody, so that they'll pay for extra mystery lessons.>'Wait OP, are you saying that the oral tradition means whatever the rabbis want it to, whenever they find it convenient?'I guarantee it.line 18-20>The oral tradition was God's word and continuing revelation both to man and through him.And we know this is what God would have wanted, because . . . it's tradition. The rabbis say so.
>>543900218>>543900782pg 36 para 3>Within a centery or so before the Common Era one component of that oral tradition, midrash . . . came to be written down.I'm getting a midrash from this book, lemme tell ya.Any time you see 'CE' or 'Common Era' used, it is being employed by someone who hates Jesus, at the behest of jews, so as to avoid using Anno Domini, or AD.So the Midrash came to be written down a full century, OR SO, before Jesus? Oh my, that's convincing. May I see it? What's that? No? It was 'committed to the memory of scribes,' and there is no written example of the Midrashim prior to 200AD? What what? You say the Midrash that we have today was allegedly compiled between 400-1200AD? Every sentence from eckstein has some sort of false premise loaded into it from the word go. It is sufficient to explain what his purpose in making this assertion about the 'writing down' of midrash is for. By claiming that the Midrash predated Jesus, he can move onto his next point, which other jewish sources like to claim, that Jesus taught in the customary mode of jewish homiletics, or to put it another way, he can claim that Jesus was a Pharisee, just like he is, and a Talmud observant jew. A theological Moat and Baily. If called on the subject he could retreat and claim>oh, but I only meant that that the oral Midrash was extant before the time of Jesus, we don't know for sureIf no one challenges the chronology assertion, it stands, and he can move on from the premise that Jesus spoke in terms of Midrash, to saying he supported Mishnah, Talmud, and gave his own Hallakah! By saying nothing, the opponent is assumed to acquiesce to the point, which in rhetorical terms is why debates always bicker over first principals, and rarely get off the ground. And anyway, Eckstein was hardly one to go before hostile audiences. His swindle depended on going into prearranged talks with collaborators to create the impression of ubiquitous widespread support for eccuminicalism.
>>543900218>>543900832Page 37 starting with the end of pg 36>The overwhelming majority of the oral tradition, particularly the vast legal tradition, was not committed to writing but to the memory by "scribes."remember Matthew 23?>Woe unto you scribes and pharisees, hypocrites! for you shut the gates of heaven in mens faces, neither do you enter yourselves.That's the scribes, the illustrious scribes, that Eckstein is lauding, the same group that Jesus condemned. Curious that scribes wouldn't write anything down, especially from something as complicated and long winded as the Midrash, or Talmud. Unless you are willing to believe that the 'Oral Law' was about putting the law in the mouth of these self appointed rulers. I don't say 'Rabbis', because that job was in its infantcy at the time of Christ.>It was carefully transmitted orally from rabbi to student from generation to generation and was studied in the various seminaries and talmudic academies of Palestine and Babylonia, which served as the main centers of jewish learning during the first few centuries.Aha, Do You see? There were ALWAYS rabbis, it always was a real thing . . . in the first few centuries. 'before or after Christ?'*shrugs shoulders*Muh uh, which story would you buy? The customer's always right!Read over that sentence again, and see if you can deduce what time period he is referring to. He isn't, it's another Moat and Baily, a bait and switch. The point of phrasing it vaguely, as he does is to convince the reader that 'judaism has always functioned this way, right back to Moses!'Yet, Moses didn't teach Talmud, nor Midrash, nor Hallakah, nor Mishnah, nor any of this, and he never appointed a rabbi, or created a job for a scribe. But beyond Eckstein making this pedegree up from wholecloth, it is a muddled anachronism.
>>543900218>>543900887> . . . the main centers of jewish learning during the first few centuries.The rabbis didn't exist before Babylonian exileThe Israelites couldn't have studied in Babylon before exileThere were no academies before Babylonian exileAll of this had to have happened after the return from the exile, but he spreads it out over 'the first few centuries.' It is a particular sort of jewish lying meant to muddle YOU the listener into coming to your own synthesis conclusion of what he means, and then assuming yourself to be stupid if his way of jumping about is disorienting. You're not stupid, however, he is just trying to trick you. Putting his statement into context with the words of his book is the only option left, but as this is 'interpretting' and a sort of redactive edit of his statement to clarify what he intentionally uses to misdirect, we won't do it. He is just lying. Rabbis, in the sense that they exist today, did not exist until after God had the 2nd temple destroyed. In the sense that they existed at all in Jesus time, they'd have been referred to more properly as Sages, and were akin to sunday school teachers, bloggers or podcasters. The Midrash, Mishnah, Gemera and Talmud, the written examinable trappings of rabbinicism, are all written reactions to the rise of Christianity, and are illigitimate fan fiction in their relation to the old testiment. All assertions of pre-christian oral equivilants are snake oil, even if they existed.>but the rabbis opinion is the original opinion ever since Moses, a full 1500 years before Jesus!According to what written source, could we validate that claim?>According to the rabbinic literature that appeared in the 1200 years after Christ!
>>543900218>>543900938Paragraph 2>the decentralization and dispersion of jews to different parts of the world, and the overwhelming amount of material that had accumulated as part of the oral tradition by the third century, contributed to the growing fear that aspects of that tradition would become distorted or forgotten.Decentralized oral tradition also got the jewish broom into a few pickles, see the Uthmanic recension, and look into the nature of Hadiths, to see the smirkingly similar parallel between the development of jewish Talmudism, and islamic Noahidism. Both had too many cooks in the kitchen making it up as they went along, and both had to write down just exactly what the rules of their game were. Fortunately, as both judaism and islam function by keeping their followers absolutely ignorant of the 'foundational text,' they could keep most members from suspecting the game. Christians, meanwhile, had to be subjected to more elaborate ruses to be decieved, indeed these plots by wolves are still ongoing.They had to do all this 'by the third century', because having failed in 70 and 132 to cast off Rome, they again turned to intermingling with Romans to get their way, but only succeeded in hastening the collapse. The Mishnaln 9>was written entirely in HebrewThat he has to assert that point makes me think it is some vein of lie, and . . .>t. looks up claimThe oldest surviving fragments of the Mishnanh are from the 6th or 7th century, and are written in 'mishnic hebrew', 'amoraic hebrew,' and in jewish aramaic. The first two are languages from the 200-600AD era, while the third was the pidgeon language of Babylon. None of these are proper classical Hebrew, and all three of which are influenced by Babylonian Aramaic. The man is pathological. He didn't need to bring up the assertion, but did so, and it's wrong. It's not true. It is, as they say, falsehood.
>>543900218>>543901014Para 3>And While Rabbi Judah was the one to compile and edit it, it was Rabbi Hillel, another pharisee, whose views became most often cited by it and whose legal decisions became its cornerstone.AHA, see there you silly christians, it isn't Jesus who is the corner stone, but Rabbi Hillel! He was a Pharisee, and His words will stand! he was patient and loving and generous and lived in Israel at the time of Jesus! Hillel was a SAGE, and is considered to be a very big deal, and if you read in the Talmud, particularly Gittin 57a, You'll see where they claim, that Jesus was raised by necromancy, which Moses said kill them for, but nevermind that, and look at why Jesus died:>as the Master said: Anyone who mocks the words of the Sages will be sentenced to boiling excrement. And this was his sin, as he mocked the words of the Sages.So when Eckstein goes on to say that Hillel moved to Israel in 30BC (while wikipedia states 70bc), and proceeds to glad hand intimation about Jesus 'maybe' meeting Hillel, remember what a Sage was, and why the Talmud claims that Jesus was punished for eternity in boiling poop. Indeed, the 'similar sayings' of Hillel and Jesus, were construed by the pharisees as mockery, to say nothing of Jesus' routine of publically condemning and damning the Pharisees and Scribes to their faces.The only reason for bringing up Hillel, aside from associating him, by tricking the reader into doing the heavy lifting, with Jesus, is to give the descriptions of what a nice kind loving gentle man he was. In short, Hillel is supposed to remind the gullible christian nominal of Jesus, and stand for the non-christian church power player as a more comfortable substitute for Jesus. Eckstein goes on to say that 'Hillel was more lenient than other Sages,' so do you, the Rube being groomed for Noahidism, want the good cop or the bad cop? Hey?
>>543900218>>543901084Page 38So these Sages, Hillel and Shammai had Torah students, that is, they had gathered together deciples, and were teaching them Babylonian Oral law. Hillel was also known as Hillel the Babylonian, and was a proto Talmudist, such as it was. Interestingly, his most famous pronouncement was the Prozbul, which contradicted the Mosaic command of debt cancellation, so as to 'repair the world' by protecting creditors. So when people read about rabbis, and judaism, it should be noted that the prime movers and shakers of the initial movement were mixed race people of Babylonian extraction, with a vested interest in Payday Loans.pr 2 paraphrased>hey kid, wanna be a Noahide, do this inverted variation of Jesus' Golden rule, and study Torah!That this exchange with Hillel and the non-jew even happened is spurious and convenient. Remember Eckstein and the jews must have a jewish alternative to Jesus, who teaches roughly the same sounding thing, to an uncritical mind, in order to have subjects for their Noahide experiment.Why do i keep using that word?Because Noahidism is the whole point of this book, and he will call for it explicitely, in chapters 1, 10 and 13 and elsewhere. Eccuminicalism/dispensationalism/bridge building/interfaith dialogue/one worldism, all of them are paths to Noahidism. Christian boomers have been muttering for decades about the danger of a one world religion, and Chris-Lam, but never Noahidism, because they've been indoctrinated in mainline churches that the jews are somehow their friends, despite Murdering Jesus Christ.Funny that Hillel said to study the Torah, didn't he have the Talmud? Didn't it ALWAYS EXIST, Huh Eckstein?Rabbis never tell people to study Torah alone, now, they must read it in light of the Talmud! Even Eckstein states that the jewish way is not to study the bible, but to study the commentaries on the bible. Otherwise, people might make a mistake and not come to the same fakakta opinions as the hasids.
>>543900218>>543901190Pr 2 ln 8>The striking similarity between Jesus' and Hillel's congenial, irenic dispositions and the fact that both insisted that the essence of the Torah lies in the biblical commandment to "love your neighbor as yourself" (Lev 19:18) are, in all likelihood, more than coincidentalWow! Another definite, possible complimentary suggestion from a man who wants the nominal christian liberal to positively associate his Christ denying sect with Jesus Christ! Oh boy, so Jesus MIGHT POSSIBLY be a nice man just like Hillel was? Well I know I've been told that Jesus was compassionate, somewhere, so this Hillel guy must REALLY be great! I'll just not look into it at all, and take the word of this guy who says that Jesus was a liar.>This supports the view that Jesus, like Hillel, came out of the pharisaic tradition, which was more open to the masses and more tolerant and democratic than other Jewish groups at the timeWhew, I was worried that he might have had any rules at all, but he's tolerant? I guess hillel wouldn't object to gays and race mixers and cross dressing. That's convenient, because when I look around at the world, there's a lot of that everywhere, and I wouldn't want to have to confront any of it. I guess I'll just do what this Hillel guy wants and be tolerant and open to the masses, and assume that Jesus was just as jewish and permissive. And if a preacher or Christian ever tells me otherwise, I can just drop the Jesus thing and side with good ol' tolerant man of the people: Hillel the Babylonian!That's the line of thinking. And that's what these followers think and do for the sake of interfaith fence sitting.
>>543900218>>543901236Paragraph 3>the skeletal outline of the oral tradition provided by the mishnah, however, soon became insufficient to meet the needs of the jewish people.Why was that? Wasn't it convoluted enough? Was it incomplete?>by the fifth century there had developed an extensive body of unwritten rabinnic commentaries on the abreviated mishnah . . .>Look in your breeder's guide>What? I haven't got any breeder's guide. Do you know where I can get one?>Well, it just so happens I've got one right here.>I'll take one>You can't buy one, you have to buy the whole set!They took 500 years to answer Jesus claims in writing, and they've been doing it ever since? I don't buy it, not even for a dollar. In occultic mystery, of which judaism is the foremost variety, you don't sell them all the religion at the door, you rent it to them for years and years, and instruct them to study an ever expanding set of books and papers, which they must pay for, of course. This ensures that the people have to come back every friday night, and provides you with cash flow. Watch The Master (2012) for an decent send up of the idea, based loosely on Scientology and L Ron Hubbard. Mary Baker Eddy, Joseph Smith, Judge Rutherford, and Ellen G White, following the lead of the rabbis, also follow this pattern of interminable writings and ever expanding rulebooks. Meanwhile, I just wanted to play a table top game, but instead I have to read and respond to this bunk, and never get around to having my plus 3 paladin use his dual wield chainsaws on endless vermin, but I digress.>fearing lest this too be forgotten and distortedThis too? So other teaching was forgotten and distorted ALREADY? Perhaps something pertinent concerning the messiah had been forgotten? Perhaps it involved Isaiah 53, or the book of Micah. Or no, maybe it was just more talk about how priests wives could commit beastiality, and it was ackshually kosher.The herbal bombing is strong tonight.
>>543900218>>543901319Line 7>rabbis rania and Ashi of babylonia decided to compile the material and commit it to script. They wrote in Aramaic . . . in the fifth century. The Gemara, as it came to be called, is a direct and far more extensive commentary on the mishnah, which itself is an abbreviated commentary on the TanakhSo they don't have anything new, just more to say about something that was an opinion. A fan fic of a fan fic, a spin off of a spin off, a blog about a blog. This can only make sense to people who have nothing going on, and a mountain of time on their hands, and seemingly all the resources of a nation to fund this project of nothing. How nuanced does one need to make 'Thou Shalt Not Steal'?If you want to obey the rule, you could leave it at that, probably. If you want to obey it.The cliche' of the hair splitting lawyer, the jew looking for any pretext and excuse to screw over any and everyone, pick your stereotype, they come from somewhere, and they exist because they're quite true. Gemara wasn't written to help the people obey the injuctions against murder, or adultery. It was the next step in crafting an ever expanding rulebook through which the jew who had no interest in keeping the laws could find a means of breaking them. The same is true of any legal code, the longer they are the more loopholes they contain. In creating a rulebook that never ends, they created perminent employment for themselves as the rule makers, the rule explainers, the judges, the lawyers, and the guides for the confused and confounded.Jesus said this about such people:>woe to you, scribes and pharisees, hypocrits, for ye pay tithe of your mint and anise and cummin, but have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgement, mercy and faith. These ought ye to have done, and not to leave the others undone.
>>543900218>>543901375Page 39The Jerusalem Gemara was compiled which was 'very similar to the one compiled in Babylonia.'Not close enough, however, because Babylon is in charge of judaism, and NOT jerusalem. Babylonian culture, influence, custom, sensibility, propriety, all these take place over the jerusalem influences, because judaism, such as it was and such as it is now, is not the metaphysical worldview taught by moses, or practiced by Jesus Christ.>nah but he went to jerusalem during passover.yeah well, I remember on 9/11 I walked through blood and bones in the streets of Manhattan, trying to find my brother. He was in northern Canada at the time.You may not know this, but it is ADMITTED that both jews AND Jesus Christ ate bread! They also all wore clothing and went to the bathroom. Cohencidence? But what does it prove?The constant allusions of Eckstein to babylon demonstrate its preeminent stature in judaism, a stature which would have begun during the exile, and continued ever since.He gives some double talk about dates for the 'Talmudic period', and again, his dates are fast and loose. He states that the Jerusalem talmud, due to its jews were less influential than the Babylonian jews and their talmud. An odd point to bring up if the books were 'mostly the same', which means he is hiding something about the whys and wherefores, and also probably lying about the content of the Jerusalem talmud. The 300s were when the 3rd temple was attempted by Julian the Apostate, and met by earthquakes and raining fire from God. The main point is that Babylon is in charge of judaism, which is a Babylonian mystery religion with Hebrew Characteristics. You could redo the origin story and use the same tactic of permanent clandestine redactions and remake judaism from anything, as they did with Islam.
>>543900218>>543901465Paragraph 3>in Summary, the oral tradition, one of the principal Pharisaic contributions to the survival of jewish life after the destruction of the temple, revolves around the written tradition, or Tanakh. So the Tanakh is the written version of judaism, and is NOT the Old Testiment? Doesn't it mean just the Torah?>It comprises the Talmud and Midrash, as well as responsa literature (i.e., questions and answers pertaining to law that arose over the centuries and that continue to be written today).Oh OK, so the Tanakh is just the writings by talmudist jews?He is substituting 'tradition' for 'scripture', in order to confuse you. He uses the colloquial usage, i.e. 'this is our traditional scripture', to accustom his reader to the term Tradition, and then substitutes that usage for his own usage of 'tradition' in the context of the Oral Talmud; a Mote and Baily.Wikipedia says the Tanakh is the Hebrew bible, and composes ONLY the 5 books of Moses, the Prophets, and the so called 'writings', and is represented by the Masoretic text from the 10th century AD.Chabad's website's version of the Tanakh has with parallel commentary by rabbi Rashi. In this sense, the 'Tanakh' replete with a mandatory explanatory commentary by a Talmudist, is an older version of what was done in Christian circles with the Dispensationalist commentary put into the Scofield reference bible.>see, we didn't change a word!Again, Eckstein's evaluation of the content of scripture, dates, the meanings of words as he wrote them in 1984, varies greatly with those of today. One could speculate why he keeps getting these things wrong, either because he is lying, or because the redaction of official terms, definitions, histories and more have been a continuous process throughout the digital age, that is since the 1980s. It could also be that the definitions, as espoused by jews have been changing, or are generally not fixed, that is to say, they are meaningless.
>>543900218>>543901544para 3 line 6>The traditional belief dating back at least as far as the time of the PhariseesBecause they made it up and codified it. Also 'the time of' is a span of 400-600 years or more.>is that the principles, and perhaps even content of this oral tradition, while written down in the first few centuries of the common era, were actually imparted by God at Sinai.The tradition of 'perhaps'! >We have always believed that 'perhaps' . . .It's meaningless, and he is building his position as a series of redoubts, and bluffs. He must do so in case 1. any of his readers might somehow confront him over what he said2. the jewish authorities changed their terms around later on>wait? they'd change their definitions and terms?'Why wouldn't they do that? The rabbi is demonstrating already, that jews will change their meanings, and terminology on the fly to win, because their purpose is to win. If they make 100 assertions, and abandon 90 in the face of push back or politics, that means that they had a success of 10 new theological beachheads from which to launch assaults on Christians at a later time.>'isn't that a 90% failure rate? or at most a 10% success rate?'No. It is a pure success. They had 10 successful entries into the discourse, and took zero losses. No one is arguing the jew into accepting anything at all.
>>543900218>>543901586Line 10>Accordingly, the oral tradition is treated as constituting the word of God just as the written Tanakh does.So now he is, at a glance, back to the modern definition of the tanakh being constituted of written cannon; The books found in the OT. However, as he is using the terms interchagably, and trying to make the concepts of Talmud, Mosaic writings, and Midrash synonyms for eachother, at least in the mind of the nominal christian, remember dear reader, this book was written to hoodwink your parents and grandparents, his purpose is to make you so used to the idea that these words all refer to the same category, that you'll accept all the rest of his assertions, due to confusion and mental exhaustion in trying to keep HIS WORDS straight.Remember in the preface (page 12 paragraph 2), where he hedges his bets saying 'errors will be made and sensitivities trampled?' That was his signal to other jews and conspirators that he was going to massively play fast and loose with the facts, the terms, the definitions. It is, in another parlance, the rabbinic form of the Gish Gallop. He doesn't want you believing any particular narrative just yet, just that he knows more than you do, 'see how many terms he invokes, and all the traditions he mentions?' You are expected to defer, increasingly, to his explainations as the book progresses. He thinks he's smart, but he's just Dull and Disappointing.Obvious.Shame on him.
>>543900218>>543901630Line 12>Jesus, in all Likelihood was intricately familiar with the oral tradition since it was studied then in the synagogs. In all likelihoodIn all likelihood? ALL likelihood you say? Well, that about wraps it all up, doesn't it? Who needs to study the bible when a rabbi states that 'in all likelyhood' something may have been familiar to Jesus? What stronger evidence do you need?He said 'maybe', OK? Can you just accept the theology of 'perhaps' and obey him already?What, WHAT? You want to build your theological position on something more than a feckless 'if' from a jew? Don't you trust him? Aren't you Christian? WHy the doubt, eh? WHat did jews ever do to make you mistrust them?See how he will allude to the subject as though neither he nor his readers has ever cracked open the book of Matthew? He certainly has, because he keep trying to argue against and dispel belief in Jesus, but it is very probable that Ecksein's intended audience did not, and does not read the bible at all. They are, again, Liberals, as the forward explains. Eckstein failing to mention that Jesus spoke clearly about the traditions of the elders 'You nullify the word of God for the sake of your traditions,' indicates that he only wants his readers to accept his characterization of a somehow friendly, pro-rabbinic judaism Jesus, with the terrible anti-semetic christians!>See, Jesus loved and supported us jews, and wanted the same things as us, it's YOU Christians who got it all wrong! If you differ with us in any way, then you don't love Jesus!It's the 'maybe you'll do what I want' smuggy. Every smuggy ever drawn, could be redrawn and replace the caricature of a liberal leftist with a jewish rabbi making the same statement.It still works.
>>543900218This 6800 word essay was written with the full support me me, the author, for you the fren, to gain familiarity with the concept of where judeo-christian talking points originated, some 42 years ago.It is a fact thqt this docteine has proliferated, and a fact that it did so by means of deception. The rabbi, for all his insistance otherwise is not operating with the authority of God, nor is he knowledgeable of the meaning of the bible.His traditions are the result of his people's race mixing into an apostasized religio-people group, which his group apostasized still further. To summarize, though there will be further entries, the jews as the exist now and in any sense in which they could ve argued to havr existed in Jesus' time, were a group of immigrants, apostates, heretics, and assorted demon worshipers who drove the final nail into the coffin of the original Mosaic covenent tie to the nation of ancient Israel, when they murdered Jesus. That they have made inroads with christendom in our lifetimes speaks to the rampant apostasy within the churches. You must be able to understand the enemy to deal with him, and our enemy is teaching judaism, beyond any other cult, the anti-christ, as such, is jewish.All anti-christian religions and philosophies are at some level either created by jews, or emulating jewish doctrine, and typically both. If you wish to inform your friends, or family on the danger of judaism, you must understand it, and hopefully, this thread will have served as a loose primer for the ideas that your parents would have been indoctrinated with.I believe that God will help us to speak the truth on this, to lead people away from the sinful heretical docteines of jews, and towards the salvation of Jesus Christ. Therefore, I pray for you all in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.Amen.
>>543900444Checked. Through political capture, which they learned in persia, and as you will find recorded in the book of esther, the destruction of the non-jews by proxy is a favorite passtime of the yidish. The other seems to be false flagging prophesies until they get enough crypto influence to start a war. Then once the war begins>behold it was a miracle, and the will of god!Mix in a few thousand mammonists propagandizing a high trust (pronounced White) congregation, and suddenly you have a grandmother telling her congressman that wr have to support our greatest ally. And all it takes is 30-40 years of non-stop propaganda, and several million dollars per square mile.
>>543900580That's what they say when they want to signal to their backers and conspirators that they oppose Jesus on behalf of the jews.See>>543900832What do all these years have in common? What did they have in common before they had this in common?Why Jesus Christ of course, but they dare not mention him. Like in the talmud where they refer to Jesus as 'that man'.The jews, el juden, der yidda, they're a superstitious people riddled with magical thinking, and paranoid schizophrenic tendencies, like thinking that 'words have power', and therefore the word most dangerous to you would naturally be the name of your mortal enemy.
>>543902913In all honesty, I should probably read all of this tonight.I have a lot on my plate, though this does seem compelling.I'm going to go out on a limb and assume your effort-posting is for benefit rather than enemy narrative insertion.I offer blessings for caring enough to type all of this.
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>>543900218I'm actually working on a pet project involving a re-examination of the friend / enemy distinction as applied to jews in the current year. It's funny that everything you're describing in this first post is entirely consist with my over-all thesis:jews are fundamentally hostile toward non-jews, particularly Whites and Christians, though they present as friends so as to lower the defenses of Whites, which makes narrative insertion easier since friends generally trust one another. I have a general praxis model of only two steps:1.) Identify jews as jews.2.) Quote them verbatim.I'm not trying to pitch anything here, so much as offer context in reference to my interest. It's refreshing to hear someone with a clear mind discuss the subject with familiarity and honesty. I'm going to take a break from my scribbles and read your TED Talk.
>>543903125I posted the link to the previous one at the beginning, but, to summarize, the jewish religion, what we can see of it now or back generally to the era of christ, is neither legitimate nor original to the teaching of moses, the law, the promises made to abraham, nor any of it.Personally, I am a Christian, but whether or not the reader is Christian, my arguments concerning judaism and rabbinic tradition should demonstrate to be helpful, as the rabbinic position of authority is entirely fabricated and asserted through redaction.The posts take a bit of time to write out, and proof, but otherwise i intend to elaborate on the entire book, if i ever get the time, as it seems pertinent to our present troubles and circumstances.
>>543903756I'm also a Christian. While I skimmed some of the text in the images, I didn't read any of your posts. I can see that you're earnest. I'm currently going through the Catechumen process and one of the texts that's provided as a basic learner's guide involves some of these heresies - that Judaism is foundational to Christianity. I looked at the author and it's a converso. I can't take it seriously and will likely end up just reading other books by non-jews who discuss liturgical cycles and so on. I've recently come to the conclusion that jews are always attempting narrative insertion. I try to protect myself from them, not because I'll believe them, but rather because they're just massive wastes of time, life, end energy.Anyhow, it's just funny that your thread came along at an opportune time. I was thinking about examples of listed jewish narratives and your initial post had a perfect list. I'm incorporating it into my pet project. Thank you. I'm a slow reader, so I simply will not respond until well past a reasonable time. That being the case, I think I see what you're doing and it's God's work. I wish you all the best and thank you for what I consider to be "good works." God be with you.
>>543904135God Bless you too fren
>>543900218From the first thread, reposted here without edit.>>534828711>christians support the jewsThe shill says. In the sense that the American rootless cosmopolitan nominal Christian supports jews, yes.How did this happen? Where did this come from?Through itterations and a gradual overton shift. However, the holocaust grift came into its own in the 1960s-80s with Night and sophies choice. Nuremburg show trials set the stage, but were largely ignored in the general consiousness, except as a forced mia culpa for the German establishment, which, being 'our enemies', were most welcomed in giving up a casus belli by confessing to impossible crimes after having their testicles crushed. The low key justification that was allowed to ruminate in the wake of this was the ironically named 'holocaust', a term for a jewish pagan human sacrifice to Ba'al, which was somehow transfered to the Christian German people by way of inferrance, and kabbalah. But I digress.The inculcation of European and diaspora Christians into the guilt cult of zionism was affectednin the 1980s, in no small part due to the effort of one rabbi Eikstein, who wrote this book, picrel, and had it pushed into the public fore by means of conspiracy of the publishers and the compromised churches, that is, the Mammonists.This thread will cover the book which gave rise to the public exposition of the 'judeo-christian' grift by the rabbi in the 1980s.I thank God for pointing this book out to me while in a church library several years ago. As of 2024, this book had not been checked out since 1991. It is no wonder that nominals believe that a book preaching Noahidiam is in some way compatable with Christian teaching when no one reads it, and that it should exist within a church library.Let us pray.>Jesus Christ, thank you for salvation and foe the strength whichncomes from the Hole Spirit. Help us to discern truth from lies, and to repudiate the teachings of the children of Satan. Amen
>>543906556Here we see an opening by an, ostensible, Christian. But read into his explaination. He is so enamoured with judaism he may as well be a convert. He is, essentially, one of the first modern converts to Noahidism.This is, more or less, the pointnof the book, is to push nominals and ethnic fanboys into Noahidism. If any lurkers have noticed this term recently, check the archives and research it. This cult will be our bain for the foreseeable future.>nb4 christians are noahidesNominals are the target for noahidism, not people who have read their bibles and studied the scripture. The point, in picrel, is that the evangelicals are, or were in the 1980s, the prime rubes for the jews, because American evangelicals are completely uninformed on christian history, and especially on the danger of the jews.As this shill forward writer suggests, evangelicals know nothin of jews, having the least familiarity with them. In thenfollowing pages, you'll see that the liberal wing is the entry point for evangelicalism for judaisers. However, look into picrel, and notice that the point suggested is an affirmation of the collective guilt of 'evangelicals' due to their alleged indifference to the holohoax during ww2. The point is that if you are an evangelical reading this garbafe in the 1980s, you are so uninformed and uninterested in trut, that you believe the propaganda about Hitler, and WANT to feel guilty, because to the nominal, religion is a matter of emotional supply. So for him to infer collective guilt onto American Christians for a fake and impossible genocide conducted by the most conscientious group of White Christians in history, the Germans, against the most guilty and dishonest group, the jews, he could not do much better than to make this obvious claim a non-sequitor. Yet he leads with this.One might think that it would be too obvious, but that would betray an ignorance of how the politics of women, nominals, mammonists and assorted sellouts functions.
>>543906586He concludes his foreward here by name dropping his association with>the Criswell center for biblical studies>dr jimmy drapper (then president of the southern baptist convention)>trinity collegeAnd then the rabbi's founding of>the holy land foundation for christians and jewsWhich would later, as of now, become the International fellowship of christians and jews, now called>the IFCJThe same group shilling on TV to your parents and grandparents for a $25 contribution for Ukrainian jewish holocaust survivers.We can judge a group by their friends, and individuals by the company they keep. These groups are suspect, due to their relation and mention by this anti-christian kabbalist and Noahidist, rabbi eikstein
>>543906615This post is included, but was conteibuted originally, by another concerned fren. May the Lord Jesus Christ look out for him, and for you, the lurkerHis post was>>534831279>'judeo-christian'Definitely a grift, and was unknown prior to the 1980s in America. Total bullshit Zionist propaganda, inserted into corporate mass media, political campaigns, and selected departments of right-funded academia.Netanyahu himself visited the United States and along with Menachem Begin gifted private jets to picrel, signed contracts $$$$$$$$$ with American evangelical church leaders for them to worship 'holy zion', insert Scofield bible heresy into all of their liturgies (both Protestant and Catholic)Befor the Arab oil embargo 1973, almost zero Americans—yes, including most bible bashers—even knew an actual country called 'Israel' existed let alone where it was located. It was just another Old Testament biblical word.WarRoom (funded/supported by Heritage Foundation, on their daily streams for example utters:>Judeo-Christianevery ten minutes like clockwork no matter the guest or topic.
>>543906615Now we enter the, very sanctimonious, into by the rabbi himself *eckstein.>estrangedThe Christians and jews are estranged. 'Why is that', one might wonder. Because of the Christians of course!The jews aren't wrong, certainly not!You sayin' they killed Jesus Christ?
>>543906724Now we get to page 12, where the rabbi concludes his faggoty interjected story about the young male loving the rabbi so much>why don't you marry him?The pagengoes on about how jews are offended by, seemingly, everything a Christian can say or do.More important than the taking of offence, is the groundwork being set. This book is about something called>dialogueAnd 'dialogue' to jewish taste means everyone else succumbing to their 3rd class status in the pecking order, and doing and saying everything to suit jew sensibilities.>no offensive denegration of the jew character (cheap shady criminals and shylocks)>no mention of jewish failure (i.e. the initial result of the crusades)>all offences against jews must be expiated by groveling and self-condemnationThis author, eckstein, is a faggot, if you haven't noticed it yet.
>>543906761what>. . .>whaaaaaaaaaaat?!?The jews don't like the cross? They are offended? Like devils, eh? They flee from the cross, and are hurt by the symbol of the . . . Man . . . They . . . Murdered . . . On . . . A . . . Cross>awkwardI'd feel bad for jews, if they meritted any sympathy.The concept of 'dialogue' is mentioned again.What is the purpose of dialogue, except to draw Christians into a cult? The thrust of this tome, if you don't know already, is pushing nominal Christians to embrace the Noahide Cult.You will find in chapters 2 and 13, that under no circumstances are jew to be evangelized into salvation in Jesus Christ. Indeed, as the rabbi insists>the messiah has not yet comeSo to pretend that the Messiah is concerned with making atonement for sin, or keeping people outnof Hell would suggest that the jewish ideas of the meschiach coming to make jews dominant over the world, and the goyim their slaves, and human cannibalism koshernwere not legitimate promises of God. That would mean that the rabbis are wrong?!?!?!? And a jew can't have that, or else what is there?No, the whole of life is about dualism, and making an ugly inbred people the rulers of earth in honor of a stone idol dedicated to burning babies alive, and to bestiality and incest.Because that's kosher
>>543906797>dialogue is about a commitment to respect for the paramitersFor the jewsDialogue is about getting the Christians to concede everything, by degrees, until there is nothing left.He explains his purpose in writing the book, but it is not an explaination of a noble goal, it is a comic book villain explaining his grand scheme. This dude is straight up evil.>support jews>support israel>aid zionism>worship jews>kill anyone the jews call 'amalek'If i can get as far as the chapter where eckstein desceibes the soviet union you'll see first hand how his pil-pul allows hom to.never mention bolshevism, butnto somehow bemoan the oppression of the soviets on the poor unappreciated jews.It's a pathetic line, but he is a jew, so what can be expected?Also, the chapter on the holocaust is the whole point o lf the book, a chiasm, as the hebrew convention goes, of putting the purpose and thrust of the argument, the thesis, in the center of the work, and working towards and away from this thesis.If they ban me, ill only post all this again.
>>543906855An orientalist appropriation of Jesus' sentiment is atteibuted to rabbi hillel, a babylonian talmudist , in the 4th paragraph.If you've never noticed, jews love to attribute any noble sentiment they can find to their own influence. Ironic, since they view humanity as a dualistic existence of, incomprehensible superiority, attributed to themselves, and the rest of humanity, which they contend is not really human, but in human form so that they won't have to be served by beasts. This means that they are concerned with deceiving beasts, arguing with beasts, pursuading beasts, and interbreeding with beasts.The jews are dog fuckers, according to themselves.Shoukd this be insulting? Not really, since they argue that women, jewesses, who fuck dogs should marry jew temple priests.Any-who, eckstein is proud to be influencing evangelicals, and to pursuade their thought processes. However, his audience, like closet faggots, WANT to be pursuaded into something bad.They WANT to be tricked.They WANT to be deceived.They WANT to be mislead.They WANT to be lied to.I'll not castigate all evangelicals in this, though they are the targets, becausentheir sin of acquiessing to jewish propaganda stems feom their ignorance. However their clergy certainly know enough to be guilty.As mentioned above, and furth into the book, chapters 12 and 13, and elsewhere, Jerry Falwell sold out to jew money in the 1970s and 80s, as mentioned here>>534831279The greater condemnation isnupon the mammonists, the wolves in sheep's clothing, who mislead the flock for the sake of gain, and betray Jesus Christ and sell the souls of men for Mammon.God made Hell for a reason.
>>543906913Page 16>the jews are the seed of abrahamPffftSorry jew, Jesus Christ is the seed of Abraham. Galations 3:16The jews, if they ever had it, lost their covenant with God after murdering Jesus.Sorry, not sorry. You done goofed!The jews played themselves.Matthew ch21 v33-44Mark ch12 v1-11Luke ch20 v9-18They tried killing the heir and taking the inheritance, but they lost the whole farm, and now it has been intrusted elsewhere, to a people who will render it's fruits. And praise the Lord too.The world has enough jew behavior and nigger behavior and jeets and masons and liberal faggots pretending to make the world better by selling us out and eshewing salvation.If there was ever a chance of people fixing things, wouldn't it have happened already?>nb4 tikun olamThe jews just use that crap to justify faggot parades, which is to say, gatherings of common jews
>>543900218>>543906947>only when WE Christians and jewsAs if this Christ rejecting rabbi can bridge the divide between Christ followers and his killers. Kek.>the jewish people. My faith community.Not his racial community, of course, because he dare not call jews a race, and dare not admit to it.>the voice of godWhich god? Christians say Jesus is God, while jews worship 'ein sof'. Is there a commonality or point of agreement between them?Only to a disengenuous jew could Jesus Christ be given common parlance with satan, which is to say,>any random jew
>>543906978Thanking his friends and, obviously, his colallaborators, eckstein names the jews, satanists, witches and, of course, mammonists who conspired to put his text into the fore of american christian bookstores, and church libraries.>evangelicals, liberal protestants and catholics>ah haSays the skeptic, the catholics are in on it too. Read the later chapters covering Vatican 2. The 'catholics' which help a jew undermine Jesus Christ would be either nominals, infiltrators, or so ignorant that they may as well be anything.>but inherent contradiction is the true representation of a position.Sure it is.>hasidic backgroundOh yeah, this guy presents himself as following the 'orthodox hasidic tradition'. So basically everything you read from him is representing what the garden variety zionist/talmudist/kabbalist/sabbatean/noahidist would support.>A grain of saltYou say? Fine, but remember he is boasting. So he is making admissions.Keep in mind the group:>common groundThe founder is an occultist, who seeks to bring about the Matrea.>wow very Christian>so gospel>much salvationMuch wolves in sheeps clothing.Fer reals, yo, everybody this jew thanks is some stripe of anti-christian sellout or subversiveThe list of other jews and jew shill oranizations would be staggaring if it were not the totallity of his acknowledged sayanim.
>>543907012Ron miller, deceased, was a theosophist. Theosophy was founded as a Kabbalist organization in 1875 by Madam Blavatski, and has for the past 150 years advocated for the comming of the anti-christ, whom they refer to as the matrea, or what jews call the meschiach. The organization, with mason-like lodges all over the world, pretends to have 'no dogma', but this is obvious deceit, as for the initial 15 years of the group they souht onl to practice jewish witchcraft.>nah bro but they changed>and anyone teaching that theynhave dogma gets kicked outScrew off pil pul jew. Humans are talkingYou can judge people by the company they keep. Look up Dr Ron Miller and tell me he looks like anything but a kabbalist.
>>543907054And now, it is my displeasurable duty to begin chapter one of>What Christians should know about jews and judaismPublished 1984, by rabbi yechiel eckstainChapter 1, concerning jewish terminology and the foundation of his argument, such as it is, is premised on the idea of the sancrosanct status of modern jews, on the basis of gentile Christin feelings of guilt over the holocaust.>ugh that canard againThat canard first last and FOREVER.Without the holocaust myth, zionism would be totally untenable. Without collective guilt no one would care about such a petty and unimportant a people as the jews, or their delusions of grandure.You will find, in reading further, that all, ALL jewish justification lies inexorably bound up in the myth, and the world's acceptance as history, of the holocaust myth.>zionism>ww2>soviet union>women's rights>abortion rights>desegrigation>race mixing>globalism>open boarders>meschianism>judeo-christian dialogue>gay rights>minority rights>decolonialization>anti-White agitationAll of these things find their justification in the lie of 6,000,000,000,000 pairs of shoes in poland.Whoever you are, you should have your own nation, free of jewish influence. So long ad they are permitted to pretend to be victims of an impossible crime, you'll be sold out by the grifting averace of your own spend thrift politicians, trillions borrowed feom the IMF at usury, jew lead NGOs shipping brown people into your country, jews teaching your women and young people homosexuality, or any other jewish poison. It all finds it's justification in the holohoax.The jews dress their tradtions up in the sanctimony of 'tradition', but all of these customs are maintained at the expense of you, or of someone like you.
>>543907092This was the intended picrel, pardon me
>>543907092Page 26The beginning of pilpul in this book, arguably, proceeds from the title, which woupd more readily b desceibs as>what jews want christians to believe about jews, judaism, christianity and the obligations of christians, with the caviatnthat they never investigate let alone contradict any of it; remember you are guilty of the holocaust (TM)However, second to that, woupd be the rest of the book, which is a series of lies and distortions at once kntotted together and onion like in it's scope and perfidity.Take, for example, the frequent deference to the torah. Eckstein explains the torah a half dozen ways, and one might think he is being thorough, until one realizes that >1. he is making his explainations so broad as to be meaningless>2. He is hedging his explainations/descriptions to appeal to the broadest reader base>3. By being broad he is concealing his true position.Eckstein is trying to confuse tuenissue by d3scribing the torah in multipl3 contradictory and mutally exclusive ways, because he is only seeking to solicite buy-in from would be collaborators and rubes, much ike the theosophists, he is intentionally vague to string the least dedicated, least focused members along, so that in the end they cannot but help with his own particular and very specific ends.It is a foolish trap to assume that any organization would base itself and practice as an entity on vague premises, and as such anything theosphic/masonic/cabalistic is sure to be rife with self deceived members and dedicated useful idiots, who assume that a group would side with their own unspoken and unelucidated goals IN SECRET, while publically eschewing any explicite goals. It is, as orwell would describe it,>double thinkThe bible calls these people self deceived. Pray for them, but do not trust them.The jews follow>talmud>rabbis>kabbalah>zohar>witcraft>satanAny deferrance they pay to the bible is a theological beard.
>>543907203Every word is couched in talk of>torah and godWhich God? What about the torah? What does it mean?According to the rabbi, it means whatever the rabbis say it means.He doesn't talk about only the 10 commandments, but about>crowns on top of letters>mishnas>torah from heaven>jewish affirmations>midrash>talmudThat he throws the term torah in among them proves the meaninglessness of his invocation of the term, as it is ALWAYS qualified in his own pet usage.The jews do not follow the torah, they use the torah to wedge themselves into polite society, by way of the most ignorant members, and to put on a garb of legitimacy among nominal christians, and social liberals, which among affluent White people is roughly the same group.He dare not affirm the authority of the torah on its own, because without his own mileu reinterpreting it's moral weight, his position falls apart. He must, and starts by, insinuating his own legitimacy, and that of jewish occultism, before the giving of the torah, as indeed he will hint at later, in describing how zohar and talmud came to Abraham, BEFORE the law was given to moses. The slight of hand is very silly, petty and obvious, but then, so is judaism
>>543907252Notice that last bit>God is not a physical being mortql man can ever come to fully knowThat gnosticism. This jew faggot is a gnostic, among other anti-christian theological precepts. His powition, as he will re-itterate, assumes that God cannot have come to earth as Jesus Cjrist, because what would be the point of judaism if he did?Indeed.He keeps dressing up talmud as torah, and the rabbis as the ordained priests as described by Moses. If you see the text say>B. T.that means Babylonian Talmud, as in the secret teaching that the exiled israelites learned in Babylon, as in the secret teaching that displaced the teaching of the law itself, as in the traditions of the elders that Jesus Christ condemned. It is also worth noticing that Babylonian Talmud displaced and superceded the Jerusalem talmud, though thatnwill not be explicitely mentioned in this work until later.Still, the 'torah' cannot be permitted to stand on its own, or else the people would cease listening to the rabbis, and they, in turn would be deprived of a nice living.The whole of judaism can be viewed, from an angle, as the religion for the empowerment and enrichment of the rabbis and their witch wives.All the rabbis explainations point to this end of YOU the reader deferring to the opinion of some sanctimonious old jew in a black hat with a vague enlightened mannerism.
>>543900218>>jews and christians are brothers in faith>>jews and christians worship the same god>>jesus was jewish>>god blesses those who bless israel>>christians were always evil oppressors of jews, and have to make amends forever>These statements, intended for people who aren't thinking or who want them to be true, are all some form of lie,You're being too generousThey are all blatant lies Probably the biggest lie in history is satan convincing the world that Jesus was a jew. Realizing Jesus was not a jew, nor was the Davidic line of the prophesied messiah jewish, is the final redpillI often say you can find a jew that says the holocaust is fake, you can find a jew that says the IDF is committing genocide, you can find a jew that says the entire world is controlled by child-sacrificing pedophile jews, you can find a jew that says the talmud is a demonic book that should be denounced, you can find a jew that says every bad thing that has ever happened to jews was deserved etc etc etc...But you will never find a jew that says Jesus was not a jewThat is the one thing a jew cannot say because it exposes the satanic lie that props up the entire existence of the jew. *Also your posts are too long to be digestible in /pol/ format anon but keep up the good work anyway.
>>543907450>Page 29Here he talks, about>shabbatIt.is worth noting that Hebrew is a dead language, and has been for over a thousand years. The pronunciations given today as 'hebrew' are a combination of yiddish and words borrowed from arabic. So when someone bickers about 'yahweh, or jehova,' you can be sure that they are ignorant and a liar. The name of God in hebrew was 4 consonants in a dead language and no vowels.So, when this occultist quack alks about>the jewish herminutic.of deriving laws from each word and letter of the torahYou can be sure that he is a preposterous heritic. The jews do this, certainly, because jews are heretics, but not with the blessing of God. This behavior betrays the schizophrenic tendancy of jews in general, to ascribe profound meaning to minutia. Indeed this is a schizophrenic symptom.This is, further, where the 6 million idea, and occultist teaching came from. Some mistranscription of a torah passage a millenia ago became sacred writ because these people suffer from congenital mental illness, and yet persist through cunning and deceit. Look into the kabbah and zohar origins of the 6 gazzilion figure. It's in the archives. Other anons have explained it better than me.
>>543903188the term kike is in reference to those who hate christ
>>543907483The purpose is to be overarching and to take arguments and ideas to their conclusions. I don't expect the lurker to regurgitate the whole odea or phrase o am using, but to have an idea of what the jew is arguing to his conspirators, so as to form his own retort. The Fren will have to answer the lies of the jew on his own. His only help will be the Holy Spirit, and so he must understand where the jew is coming from. He will be given the word of the Holy spirit, assuming he has the Holy Spirit, but his familiarity with the arguments will help his thinking, and encourage him, to know that the enemies of Christ have appointed themselves, and set themselves against the Lord and his annointed Christ. I mean only to encourage, and to lay bare the hollow sham of jewish theology, such as it is, for frens to examine and learn from. We would do the same with an autopsy and we can do the same with this discredited religion of judaism.The scripture says that the people perish feom a lack of knowledge, and elsewhere it says that in the absence of a sign, the people become discouraged. But Christ reminds us that the Truth will set us free. I love the truth, and so if I talk too much,, i must ask your pardon. I'm only excited for what Jesus is up to, and that he will win either way, because his enemies are all liars and dorks.
>>543907516>page 30We get another brow bearing over the term old testament. It is old. It is over. The Law of moses was completed and abrogated by Jesus Christ, as he said he would in Matthew 5.But watch him shift gearz and explain that ONLY the torah is truly inspired and inerrant, and as such MUST BE INTERPRETTED. If is is so inspired, wouldn't it's meaning be self explainatory? Would it imply within itself a perminent job for post second temple busy-bodies to lord it over the world forever? Of course not, but then, how would the elderly faggot class of jewry be supported at the expense of the lay jew?The history and PROPHETIC BOOKS are, obviously not considered authoritative, no no no. They don't dare teach isaiah 53, for instance, as thatnwould make it too on the nose.Get it? Big noses?!?Huh?>please clapAnyway, whatever the rabni finds convenient to ascrine authority to he will, and YOU, the dumb reader, must accept his authority. I'm not saying that, but he implies it with his writing. You cannot.really know or say or deduce.any positiin from scripture alone, but he sure can, because 'he has the true secret special authoritative real divine knowledge'. How do you know this? Because he says so.He glorifies himself, as does the entire rabbinic tradition. They are the modern variation of the korahites from numbers 16 and they cannot get their comupance soon enough, though, arguably they have been repudiated repeatedly, as in carthage (the punic wars), and 70 AD and 132 AD and the spanish inquisition, and on and on. They are not a penitant people, so they will only repeat their sin.He finishes the page with a vaguery about>scripture being revealed - however one understands that term - by GodKek.So if i understand that as being the prohibition against murder, and someone else understands that as being a talmudic exception permitting murder, then we are BOTH RIGHT, which really means 'the rabbis are right'>long fart sound
>>543907875>page 31Here, among other places he describes>jewish peoplehood>the jews at mount sinaiWhat about the other 12 tribes? Aren't jews from judah? Did jews exist in Egypt? Was Abraham a jew?It's all bait and switch pil pul, distortions and assorted lies, but without that, what would he have to swindle the nominal christians with?Remember this was put out in the 1980s>before gay marriage>before the migrant crisis>before 9/11>before the fall of the soviet union>before the internet>before most of us were bornWe just have to deal with the aftermath of the jews tricking our ignorant ditzy grandmothers into supporting fag parades.See in the mddlemwhere he talks about God>addressing Israel directlyThat's why they call themselves 'jews', butnhad to create israel, to give themselves legitimacy with ignorant self deceived morons.>the jews are the people of god>they rollow his lawsNo they aren't and no they don't. They kill people constantly, they blaspheme God with everything they do. The term 'jew' is the greatest insult in human history.Everywhere the jew has gone he has been condemned for his malignancy, dishonesty, treachery, at all times in all places.>but the midrash says that the people thought moses was divineWhatever. That sounds like jew cope and pilpul. The fact is that the jews teach that they ARE divine, and in charge of God. We'll get to the story of the kosher stove soon enough, and you'll see the extent of jewish delusion on full display. These peopel are really full of themselves, and still their biggest claims to fame are>assassinating the son of God>murdering Christians in russia>defending leo frankIn that order
>>543907965>page 32We see the pretense of piety on full display>oh well the torah can be used to for holiness of idolotry, oy veyCertainly the jews wouldn't misuse the torah though, right?>cue anikin/padme meme>right?God and Man, a parnership for Shvartze!Whenever you read a jew talking anbout>mankind>man>humanity>shared humanityAnything of that sort, they mean jews ONLY.some talmud passage mentions how non-jews were made in himan form somthat jews wouldn't have to be served by beasts.Anyway, the jews are bad people, and teach something that nobody should follow. Among their bad teacjing is that, as the rabbi will reitterate,>the jews are PARTNERS with GodNot servants, not subsidiary to God, not accountable to God, partners.The it where he tries to make the delusion of grqndeur of the jews analogous to christianity is laughable, as it is precisely the acting out of the act of lucifer trying to 'become like the most high'.These people are really full of themselves, and think God needs them. This theme repeats itself, because their real god, Ein Sof, lucifer, does need the help of jews to get anything done. All the double talk about 'affirming god' or seeking him is just jew BS. They orchestrate all their rituals to make themselves in charge of God, and to reject their need for repentance.>man is pure>man can lift himself up>man comes from the divineThese are their way of doing double talk and besting God. It gets gayer the more you read about it.These people are just insufferable. Really the worst.Ooof!
>>543908036>page 33Oh how the midrash teaches the holiness and so on. I'm getting a midrash reading this occultist diatribe, lemme tell ya.There is a brief section on christins disagreeing with jews, how could they do anything else? And more pilpul about how we have to>agree to disagreeIf you don't agree with the rabbi you havr to agree to disagree, but you don't get to be right, you just have to hold your peace. You get to have 'dialogue' with jews on the premise that you will abide by jew sensibilities.It's the whole basis of interfaith dialogue. Whoever is the target of jew dialogue will be subsumed by it. This is the purpose of 'dialoguing' with the children of the devil.Then we come to the oral tradition.The talmud!We have come so far and yet it means nothing.>the talmud is shit>the zohar is shit>rebbe schneerson is dead shitAlls you gots to understand, is that the talmud is the jew's explaination, in plain language, of how and why they hate YOU and will try to enslave, rape and murder you and your whole civilization. They don't saceifice their kids to kronos just to be your friend.They do their evil to gain control of the whole world, thinknthe letter of Marx to levy beruch, or whoever the hell it was.The talmud, also, is the whim of the rabnis. It means whatever is convenient to the jewish bosses goals TODAY. if that means helping or discouraging any plan any movement, any agenda then it is legitimate, because tomorrow it can mean the opposite, and any person, however shabbos they are, can be killed and his family desecrated, because to a jew, YOU ARE AN ANIMAL
>>543908107>page 34>the christian bible seems toThis line of attack is so jewish.>seemsThis jew can't even make a direct statement about the position he wants you to believe, he just goes>huh, that's odd. It SEEMS as though your bible says i'm the best and that Jesus isn't the son of God, because being accountable would offend me. LolThe legitimacy of this faggot's argument hinges on YOU thinking that anything he says has weight to begin with.The bible SEEMS to suggest that jews have an eternal covenant? Doesn't he know? Wouldn't it be obvious? Wouldn't that have been the Explicitely stated point of Christianity since 33 AD after the jews murdered Jesus Christ?Instead it was apparent to nobody except liberals in the 20th century, who already want the jews to be in charge. The people who push judeo-christian cultism are like closet faggots.>john haggey is a fag for jewsIf you don't understand that jews are the bad guys, and that they are against God, you are a gay man.Why are you gay?Anon, stop being gay.
>>543908195>page 35His illustration of judaism is made up, and looks like an anatomy textbook. Also he is a liar. The practices of the jews are not taught by moses, but rather appropriated from the caananites and from elsewhere. Sacrificing their own kids in a tophet isnwhy those niggers got exiled to banylon, where they learned even worse traditions and did worse acts.Notice at the bottom where he sticks up for the pharisees?This jew has a hardon against the Saducees that won't quit, one thing the jews know is how to hold a grudge. He gets irate in a few pags over the saduxees having no authority, it's funmy to watch him spaz out, i'll try to rmember to laugh again, but i may forget, because eckstein is a dead jew faggot grifter with a fat ugly jew daughter. That woman looks like big nosed poison.The premise of authority, coming from.a jew, is peak nonsense. They just make it all up as they go along. None of the particulars matter, and if younever call them out, even if you prove the hypocrisy qnd inconsistency of their position they'll just pretend it never happened, and that they won.Hitler was right, he did begin to hate gradually.They were never massacred though, that part is made up by bolshevik jews to justify the war after the fact. Allied soldiers and politicians were complicite, probably lots ofnthem were masons, and they went along with it for religious/political considerations. No one would kill precisely 6 million people with bug spray, you'd do only 3.2 million. Specifically that number, because that's the total population of jews in europe during the course of the german occupation. Also because bug spray had a hard limit of how many jews can be killed before you void the warranty.Get it? Because it's all arbitrary and made up, and my absurd reasoning is as rational as any rabbis.>christianity is based on judaismChristianity is based on a religion that rejects him? Orly?Sure thing, jew.
>>543908225Here's where I got off track last time>page 36-39 i have misplaced so nevermind the bollocks, here' page 40This part covers the kosher stove. This is, and i'm sorry yall, it is so damn gay it's GOTTA BE jewish.So the story goes that God, the creater of everyrhing is so weak that he defers to the judgement of jews, yet so pedantic that he cares about the formalities of a stove, and so great he cqn create thenuniverse, but so wrak that making everything breaks him into pieces.This is because, and i hate to reiterate this butThe jews DON'T WORSHIP GOD.the jews worship Ein Sof, which is NOT the God mentioned in the bible.>Ein Sof did not create anything.>Ein Sof did not save the Hebrews from egypt>Ein Sof didn't write the Law>Ein Sof is not worthy of worship>Ein Sof is not GodEin Sof is a faggot. The jews worship a faggot fake god, and israel is the fag capital of the world.The kosher stove story, page 40-41 illustrates what Godless insufferable faggots the rabbis are. Read through it at your own risk, you may vomit.>the torah is not in heaven>the law is in the opinion of the majorityThis is how younget show trials, by the way.This is how Noahides intend to conduct their starchamber courts after they consilidate world control, or whatever term they with to use. The law is whatever a gang of jew pedophiles says it is.Freemasons and assorted shabbos traitors will be only too happy to help jews enact oppression and murder. I'm looking at you india! You know who you are sukdeepdikshit, working for the jews.However there will be plenty of people from everywhere else too. Noahidism will be everyone's problem, the same way covid lockdowns were everyone's problem.Did you know that 2020 began the jewish decade of the face? Some jewish broad explained that to me in an aldi. I'm inclined to believe the jews were partially complicite in all of it, not just the pharmacy jews or netanyahu, but the common ground level jews too. Is that unfair?
>>543908329And the big one>page 41So God is pleased that the jews jew him, eh? He is pleased that the jews snub their nose at his authority?So God wants to be defied? He fetishizes disobedience and sin? HhmmmThis story reads like the jewish idea of God is that he is a capricious crazy monster, the sort of a being that they don't like or obey or care about. The story states that the jews, and not God, are in charge, and that they don't have to listen to him or obey him and that he likes it this way. So their god is trying to teach them to be disobedient, and that they get to make the rules?Isn't that just satanism?Yes. It is satanism. I wasn't being rhetorical, i'm being sarcastic with all the questions, and facetious feigning ignorance.The jews are actually just satanists.That's the long and short of why i'm posting all this. They put on the traditional garb of being, somehow, ancient isrealite hebrews, but don't teach or practice anything in the bible. Instead they teach and practice the things that were condemned in the bible and they rely on the ignorance and credulity of the uninformed uninterested public to let them get away with the pretense or being moral.If they think, legit think, they can trick and thumb their noses at God to hisnface andnthat he's happy about it, they'll do anything. No attrocity is beyond a person who thinks that way, and the jews think that way.This book demonstrates one of the most influential jews of the last 50 years, in his own words, descrining what he wants and how he thinks the world works, and he thinks he is in charge of God.The jews are out of their ever loving minds, and you'd better be on guard. Nothing they teach is true. Everything they are up to is dangerous and evil. They are not your friend because they cannot be. They are the kids of the devil, and want to rule the world, and that kind of crazy doesn't wear off just because YOU try to be reasonable or friendly.I'll post more later.God bless.
>>543900218White people are the Biblical Jews. The antichrists who blasphemously refer to themselves as Jews i.e. practicioners of Judaism are just an inbred offshoot of what used to be White people, and the immediate aversion to this fact tells you exactly why this psyop has been run so effectively to convince us otherwise.It's all laid out in the Bible. We were one people until they rejected Christ and were cut off and exiled from our family line by the Lord himself, so much so that he said that it was now a blasphemy for them to refer to themselves as Jews as they are instead antichrists and the Synagogue of Satan. The Israelites were originally the descendants of Jacob, who was also called Israel. Jacob/Israel and his descendants were specifically chosen by God to be a special people set apart from all others for a time to demonstrate to the rest of the world what blessings could come from those who were devouted to him and also the hardships that could be delivered unto them for sinful disobedience so that when he reestablished the covenant for all the world they would know what they were gaining and the cost of falling astray.Due to the antichrists rejecting the Lord, he also rejects them so much so that to illustrate his point the Lord said these antichrists were no longer Israelites and should be considered as much the descendants of Jacob as the children of Ishmael were (Ishmael was Jacob's Uncle, Jacob's father Isaac's older half brother from a different woman. Obviously since he was Jacob's grandfather's son from a different woman than Jacob's Mother it would be impossible for him or any of his children to be considered Jacob's children or their descendants.)
>>543908972Since the new covenant established the Church of Christ as the new Israel, i.e. the "special few" chosen by God to be set aside from the rest of humanity to be saved and live with Jesus Christ forever in New Jerusalem after Judgement Day that means that all Christians are Israelites, which is why over time referring to ourselves as Jews gradually fell out of fashion as the antichrists desperately clung to this identity to reject the fact of Christ and attempt to lead others astray from him by following the old covenant so we began to refer to ourselves as White, more so breaking into our own tribes such as we did when we referred to ourselves as Levites, Judeans, and etc we began referring to ourselves as Saxons, Celtics, and etc.It also says in the Bible that the antichrists know this, but believe that if they can convince every one of us to stop believing in Christ and be damned that the Lord will come to them and absolve the new covenant and re-establish the old, giving them a second chance and reinstating their original status and this is why they are so desperate to circumcize others and besmirch Christ. Even getting you to refer to them by the name Jews is an attempt to trick you into blasphemy and show your ignorance of the Word of God, much like referring to us as Goyim is a reality inversion since Goyim comes from Goylish and means Heathen. Heathens are ones who rejecte God and since antichrists reject Christ they reject the one true God which makes them heathens and as such are the true Goyim.In addition it says that one who is knowledgeable of the Word of God but lacks the Holy Spirit that one can only gain from faith in Christ will be exceptionally vulnerable to the Devil and tempted to abominable sins that far exceed all others, which explains why they're so particularly evil compared to everyone else.
>>543908987SOURCE:> Israelites are God's Chosen:Exodus 6:7, Deuteronomy 7:6, Deuteronomy 14:2, Deuteronomy 26:9, 2 Samuel 7:25> All Christians are Israelites:Matthew 3:9, Matthew 3:10, Acts 15:14, Romans 2:13, Romans 4:14-16, Romans 9:3-8, Romans 9:24-26, Romans 11:16-24, Galatians 3:7, Galatians 3:29, Galatians 4:1-7, Colossians 3:11, 1 Peter 3:6, Revelation 22:7> Antichrists:Acts 26:18, Romans 1:21-32, Romans 7:13-25, Romans 10, Romans 11:7-12, 2 Corinthians 3:13-16, Galatians 4:22-31, Galatians 6:12-18, 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16, Titus 1:10-16, 1 John 2:18-26, 1 John 4:1-3, 1 John 5:10, 2 John 1:7, Revelation 2:9, Revelation 3:9
>>543909004In addition Jerusalem, Israel is the Whore of Babylon.Revelation 17:18 describes the Whore of Babylon as a city.> And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.Revelation 18 states that it will match the following description:> For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.- Revelation 18:3Revelation 18:13 states it will be responsible for, among other things, human trafficking:> And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.Revelation 18:17-19 trade ships mourn the Whore her coast line.> And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.- Revelation 18:23> And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.- Revelation 18:24 [It's always ((Them))]
>>543909014Another cope is that antichrists push circumcision because they're "commanded to circumsize their slaves" but that's not true. They were only told to circumsize those who converted over to Christianity from paganism, not to do it as a sign of all slaves. Those they are supposed to mark with an earring and even then only if they voluntarily choose to be a lifelong slave after seven years of service.Instead, the Bible reveals what the real reason it: the antichrists who blasphemously refer to themselves as Jews know that Jesus Christ is the Messiah and the son of God, they know they made a mistake by rejecting and crucifying him but they are so weak spiritually that they can't trust in Christ to forgive them if they repent so instead they believe if they can lead every human astray so that there isn't anyone left on Earth who believes in Jesus Christ that the Lord will come to them and admit he was wrong and give them a second chance. This is blasphemous nonsense as not only is the Lord never wrong but he's started himself that the church of Christ shall never be wiped out and will last forever and ever. They think that can stand stiff necked against God and they shall be broken beyond all repair.Thankfully, while physical circumcision isn't a part of the new covenant, unless you're doing it specifically because you reject Christ and follow the old law Jesus isn't going to hold it against you as it says in Galatians 5:6.> 6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.—Galatians 5:6
Silly thread. Bible states God’s promise to the children of Jacob and reiterates it in Kings. The Bible also states in Romans that Christians are gentiles who are grafted into Judaism.Christians join the chosen.This is what it says. If you’re not on board with it then I don’t know. You dislike Christianity because you dislike Jews. Understandable.
>>543909038B-but Christianity is made by jew to cobtroll goyms!!!!>you cannot belive in religion in which messiah was killed by jews because its controlled by jews!
