I've noticed that in the past few years, the 'lifestyle' as many people call it has become really popular, even 'normal' to some degreei've seen it myself, especially in the music scene, but in general it seems that it's now a cross-generational thing that just exists now for many. The causes (porn, degeneracy, assorted kikery) is well known at this point even by the people who are part of it, so it's not even interesting to discuss, but what about the effects of it? The aftermath of this is something i've never ever seen discussed much, even here, where a lot of assorted degenerates talk about their escapades and exploits, but never what comes of it, in general and at large or even at an individual level. Porn is bad enough on its own, but sex clubs, cuckoldry, dysfunctional-by-design perverted relationship dynamics, it's quite worrying. It mirrors exactly how gay people live, unsurprisingly.What's the deal with organized perversions and what are the consequences at large? Are there any articles/books/info about the topic that don't romanticize it or frame it as "dirty dark but curiously enticing"? Most everything written about it reads like wikihow guides on how to get into it and not worry, it's normal and normalized, shame and conscience are just socialized into you and not reali'm sure mental illness plays a big role in this. this isn't even about libtard gay shit like polycules and trannies, this is more vast. I'm sure you know what i mean, considering where we are
>>544208331What are you doing here Stalker?
>>544208331>i'm sure mental illness plays a big role in this.
Kink can be a dangerous thing. It's all about pushing boundaries. But some boundaries should not be pushed
>>544208331>The causes (porn, degeneracy, assorted kikery) is well known at this point even by the people who are part of it, so it's not even interesting to discuss, but what about the effects of it?the most popular types of bdsm is what would be considered normal or normal-adjacent a century ago (i.e., pre-feminism) male dominance stuff and is interchangeable with what's called rough sex.
Some people get off on the wrong station.
>>544208331>finally weekend>after a really bad week>so tired>the fucking lazy bitch wants you to BDSM her for hours
>>544208331many things can happen, from the most common, financial ruin, to the rare but significant, accidental deathhowever, there is one sure outcomeIT MAKES YOU GAYit is beyond certain
>>544209191that's the thing, when is it enough? you push a boundary, now you have a new one to push and an entire system designed to help you do soi figure a lot of people into it also want to help people get deeper into it as a personal source of satisfaction from corrupting someone, and when consequences come for them, they vanish and seek someone new>>544209393what about sex clubs and the like? i've found out rave orgies are quite common here and have a lot of avenues for it. The g*rman shit like Berghain/KitKat has been a thing for decades but it seems like it's getting more popular now around here, especially with young people. Boomers have their clubs, and 19-35 have theirs as well. But you never really hear about what happens long-term in terms of self-worth, expectations of normalcy in intimacy and relationships, loss of pairbonding/love, and all that. I've been trying to look for things written about it, but to no real avail. Searches are DEFINITELY piloted. Like those heroin addiction story/warning books, they all tell stories about how it will nuke any possibility at a normal life, and there's tons of those around, but you never see anything like 'trainspotting' but for people who are part of this.Hell, i've seen doujins pussyfoot around this less, even though a lot of it is meant to be arousing (NTR shit and derivatives for example)>>544209863yes, with all that comes with it i'm afraid
>>544208331Sadomasochism is not just a sexual kink. Its a mix of life experiences or trauma that have built specific emotional processing styles. Sadists are outspoken, aggressive, and fearless, while masochists are quiet, self blaming, and empathetic. Most masochists are BPD while most sadists lean towards narccism. When they can adapt to each others communication styles (the masochist becomes a louder asshole, sadist becomes more empathetic and understanding) it makes for a great strong relationship dynamic, stronger than normal ones.The problem is because these emotional processing styles are tied with sexuality, people think putting the cart before the horse is helpful. It's not. Monogamy and emotional bonding are the foundation of sadomasochism for it to be healthy. If not you get degenerate "pride" parades. Please ask me anything.
>>544209191>>544209963It's not about pushing boundaries. Its about deep bonding in extreme ways. Normally the woman wants to get play raped and the man wants to play rape. The masochist recieving pain is a relief from their strong empathy and dealing with others emotions. The dynamic builds deep trust.
>>544208331well its a form of mental illness and surrogate narcissism. Even when having talked about such things in past relationships jokingly, it always remained cuddly and wholesome/organic. People often talk about how normies are NPC's, but that is not rlly true. The people who get beholden to such degeneracy, or comparable one are by definition NPC's. It makes it increasingly difficult, becauuse it is an NPC'dom which is specific to people who would usually have an amount of agency that you could call above average. This is the long term side effects. Not being able to appreciate authenticity anymore.That faggot sam hyde did a ''comedy sketch'' about it recently i think. America's next daddy dom or something idk. You can see it being explicitly propagated through narcissism, as people who excel in this have per se no talent that they developed instead. It's like when you devote your life to religion just in inverse, where religion, meaning complete service to something in the service of a greater good in humility, within which you slowly develop talents to let people actually partake in, such as arts, science or actual religion, without a need for yourself. (doesnt mean you cant be proud of it or something idk, i hope you get the point tho) So yeah. Narrcissism and degrading the common good, deriving sexual pleasure from it. Shoutout also goes to all the faggots who browse here who would on the streets try to recruit me into orgy going. eat shit niggers. (figuratively)
>>544209963>you never really hear about what happens long-term in terms of self-worth, expectations of normalcy in intimacy and relationships, loss of pairbonding/love, and all that. I've been trying to look for things written about it, but to no real avail.Casual sex clubs are incredibly toxic for the mind. They are the antithesis of what BDSM emotional bonding should be.
>>544210078>>544210147You are wrong, in the end it is just a ''kink''if you dont manage to develop past some kind of pathological impetus in an interpersonal relationship then you obviously have a shitty life. if you mean to say that this is the pinnacle of relationship building then you have a maladjusted philosophical outlook imo.
>>544208331Just normies trying to be edgy... It's incredibly cringe.
>>544210296>The people who get beholden to such degeneracy, or comparable one are by definition NPC'sIts not degeneracy inherently. Its specific emotional processing styles that involve specific sex acts for relief. >Narrcissism and degrading the common good, deriving sexual pleasure from it.Thats only the sadist side. The masochist wants to be degraded so they can stop caring about everyone else's feelings for a while. To the masochist's mind, its a selfish act.Sadists are also often higher empathy outside the bedroom.
Counterpoint:Girls are super cute tied up.
>>544210435>Sadomasochism is not just a sexual kink. Its a mix of life experiences or trauma that have built specific emotional processing styles. Retard. Yes describing it as maladjusted is accurate. Either way S/M make great pairs with deeper and stronger emotional bonds than normal people.
>>544208331NOT POLITICS
>>544210476its to a degree also the masochists side, as both is driven by narcissism, which is the more proper framework. lots of things are describable via narcissism, while obviously masochism only is describable through some form of emotional verification as you yourself admit. If you want to have a healthy relationship you inherently need to develop past something like this anyway, because else you will remain a gratification driven mentally stunted child.
>>544210078well, it's about what i've said in the previous post, i am not against the idea of kink and all that in a relationship dynamic (i'm not vanilla, or at least wouldn't be if i wasn't alone -by choice, yes really- right now) but seeing how popular it is, curiosity does ariseespecially when it comes to involving other people and how that can disrupt a relationship between two people or how continuing to push boundaries and expecting the other person to understand that can shatter trust and respect for the other personi also question the ethics of getting someone into it, and if that relationship ends, the other person is now part of something that they wouldn't have been if it weren't for you. I'm not a part of it myself, but it mirrors a lot of how things go down with people who experiment with drugs for one reason or the other, and i'd like to know if anyone has written anything of note about it especially after years being in itand: a lot of people (girls included) just do so in the most impersonal way possible, like hiring masters/mistresses or just looking for people to hook up and get roughed up by. I had a girl leave me because i was trying to take things easy and seriously and she couldn't keep it in her pants, so went and found a master on some social site to get beaten and porked by. Didn't really hurt me as much as you'd think, but i often think what would compel someone to betray their conscience and themselves for pleasure like that.>>544210387all the satanist aesthetics and filthy-by-design shit really are NOT there for show i think>>544210561>how is the mental well being of society in the context of relationships and family at large have anything to do with politics lol mind ur own bizok nigger
Incel retards talking about BDSM is like hobos talking about what supercar they like to drive.
All deviant s x is BDSMWe know the consequences. The 60s revolution showed what happens when violating family morality
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