What would /pol/ do different from the Nazis? Obviously the Nazis failed, so it would be nice if we could failure-proof our ideas and not share the same fate.
Revelation 2:9Revelation 3:9Romans 2:28-29Philippians 3:31 John 2:22-232 John 1:9-11You don't even need to engage with pilpul. Just post these Bible verses in their entirety or in part. You don't even need to elaborate.
Nazism was a mistake. Most whites dislike it because at its core Nazi ideology comes into conflict with the foundations of Western civilization and thus does not resonate with most white people on some primal instinctive level. People cannot always pinpoint what exactly is wrong with it, but deep down they feel it is foreign to their nature and reject it. For the Western world ideas of freedom, individualism, democracy and rule of law are not just words, but a foundation any functioning society should be based on. Nazism offers none of that - instead of individualism it expects people to be extremely collectivist to the point where a human is no longer their own unique self, but disposable resource to be used by the state and discarded as soon as it stops being useful. Instead of rule of law Nazism insists on a despotic state possessing all the power and not being confined by different branches of power. It even attempts to forcefully erase all the empathy and compassion from people, which Western civilization has always held in high regard. But to Nazism they are mere obstacles which prevent the state machine from achieving its aims, so they attempt to root it out. "I liberate you from the chimera called conscience!" - this famous quote is the essence of Nazism and how it attempts to shape the world and society. It seeks to abolish morality in its every form, so that people would fully waive their human nature and embrace becoming a hive with one Fuhrer at the top. In a way Nazism was one of the most anti-human ideologies ever conceived, since it views humanity itself as its biggest enemy.
>>544503816I think the contradiction/differences between Naziism and Christianity is an important subject. One of the Nazis at Nuremberg said they had abandoned God, I think if they had been more in line with God's will and righteousness and less influenced and motivated by rage and opportunism they wouldn't have been destroyed. While Hitler had been very successful in consolidating power in Europe, I think the fact that he went against his own non-aggression pact and invaded Russia is what damned him in the end, that he was ultimately not a man of peace but a man of war and lawlessness.
>>544503789Nothing; it was America and England that fucked up>>544503873>troon doesnt like nazisOf course you dont
>>544503934Are you implying that America was with God? Because looking around, it doesnt seem that way.
>>544503789They should just skip to the part where they kill themselves in a bunker
Stalin so being a Nazi is pointless
>>544503789Actually be racists who kill jews and non-euros.
>>544503967Was yes. Is definitely not. God stopped increasing America's happiness around 2000, as America took the slow route to atheism and apostasy that France and Germany had taken a bit quicker and earlier. I do think God approves of still a great handful of things that make America unique, and believe there is hope on a long shot that America can change and intelligently adapt. As >>544503873 highlights, morals are an important key in societies being successful.
>>544503789fascism is the way
>>544504089>why yes this godless satanic hellhole is entirely moral >child raping jews are exactly what God wants>mass migration and the surveillance state is actually what God wantsYou wouldnt happen to be jewish, would you?
>>544504210I think God punished the Nazis for being warmongers and aggressors against the Soviet Union who wanted peace and didn't do anything to contain the Nazis, where he didn't punish them for beating the British and French.
>>544503873this.In fact, the authoritarianism and totalitarian control advocated by Nazis contradicts their claim on aryan superiority.If Aryans were supposedly inherently superior in their abilities and judgment, why did they need a Führer to dictate the direction of their society? ? Wouldn’t its members naturally accomplish great things if they were given freedom? Why, then, would the Nazi Party need to control every aspect of the lives of the very people it considered racially superior?
>>544504070That's how the norse gods came to be
>>544503789> The Nazis failedThey had a war against two separate super powers. They succeeded in many more things than they failed. If Europe in general went NatSoc it would become the premier world power without a shadow of a doubt.
>>544504436So God punishes the people that oppose the pedophile cabal but rewards the pedophile cabal with more children to rape? You sound severely jewish
>>544504605You don't think this amount of success is enough for a power to be judged for losing from this? I think if a power were to come into being it ought to learn from the mistakes that led to the downfall of prior movements.
>>544504775Evidently Nazi Germany wasn't a useful instrument in the hands of God against any evil cabal, and suffered the fate of an evil cabal in its own right.
>>544505077So you do think then that the pedophile surveillance state is more moral than the people specifically trying to stop the pedophile surveillance stateBecause thats stupid
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>>544504986No, considering it lasted for 4 years, while Stalin won and his projected lasted for decadesStalinism is clearly the better idealogy
>>544505203Yeah it was so successful they named the period after him 'de-stalinization'
>>544503789Be nicer on slavs and harsher on jews and blacks
>>544505203Stalinism/Soviet Communism is more of an actual ideology than Naziism, which is basically centered around the person of Hitler before any solid convictions. I like the Hilter that established peace with Russia and defied the West by partitioning Poland better than the Hitler that went against his own non-aggression pact and threw the world into a terrible war. I don't think he was a good leader for taking such a risk as he did.>>544505177If the pedophile surveillance state is to be stopped it must be done by a movement that isn't doomed to failure like the Nazis were.
>>544505257Lebensraum was very specific doctrine that brought about the ruination of the Nazis. If they had been more general National Socialists and not very extreme racial imperialists they wouldn't have fallen apart so fast.
>>544505236"De-stalinization" was reserved, and Stalin is still one of the most popular people in Russia (70% approval rating) and his home country, GeorgiaWhere as celebrating Hitler in Austria or Germany gets you sent to prison
>>544505308>if Jesus was the son of God he wouldnt have been crucified See, actual Christians understand martyrdom intuitively. Something you jews never seemed to have grasped
>>544503789they defeated the weimar repbulic and you call that a failure?
>>544505366Jesus's martyrdom fed the church as a movement and gave it meaning. Nazi defeat killed the party as a movement and refuted all meaning they attached to it. Debate is good
>>544503789Avoid all out war with Poland, and fram expansionist actions carefully to the allied powers as anti-communist measures.Once war with Britain starts it's game over eventually because the US will get involved. You can fight the US, or you can fight the Soviets, but not both. And you have much more to gain by fighting the soviets and framing yourself as the defender of the west.Nobody will care enough about you killing the Jews if it's not good for propaganda, they'd end up like the Armenian genocide.
>>544505407They got very far >>544504986Those successes are remarkable. But the failure is the ultimate fact of their project that needs to be comprehended.
>>544505362>this is just like Austria where foreign powers specifically banned statues of HitlerYou can wear a hammer and sickle shirt around and no one will care. You cannot wear a swastika shirt. By that alone we can see who is a threat to the establishment and who is considered a joke>>544505438And yet you make the same argument as the jews and romans did. The fruits of martyrdom take time. If anything, the resurgence of NatSoc in recent years should tell you something. In any case, arguing moral highground on behalf of the allies, while jews rape our children and shit on our religion, is stupid at best and heretical at worst.
>>544503873nonsense.All this hoopla about meaningless concept-sausages like>individualism>democracywill always just lead to zionism aka rule under the jewish boot.You guys always forget that every day zio-globohomo is feeding you lies about NS. Almost every news article, show and AAA vidya is about why zionism is great and NS is evil. If you cannot see and understand the messaging of it, how can you know what NS is really about? Your gut instinct is wrong, you've been astroturfed your whole life!>does not resonate with most white people on some primal instinctive level.How come every piece of art is shit now and people can't say why? Why is every movie playing the same songs starting from the 80s? Why don't we have great books anymore? The boring, nonsensical and unifying pop messages in culture mirror exactly the Palestinian genocide. One couldn't happen without the other.Same with "woke" games. Everybody gets they all suck now and most here would agree it's jews shitting them up. But what does it mean and what does NS have to do with it?National Socialism has only ONE (1) big principle around which it's constructed and that is the >VOLKeverything else is optional. The state isn't meant to be a giant machine, it's just a means to an end.You've been carefully mislead your whole life which is why even a Slav who lives in an actual, factual fascist shitty empire would write such an idiotic jew drivel.You need to meditate on what the Aryan Volk means for some months.Then you'd realise the Nazis did almost everything entirely correct, given the time, frameworks and constraints they had, for instance the imminent danger from the (((red))) east. What they accomplished was nothing short of a miracle.Sieg Heil
>>544503789>What would /pol/ do different from the Nazis? Obviously the Nazis failed, so it would be nice if we could failure-proof our ideas and not share the same fate.Actually kill the jews instead of giving them swimming pools and movie theaters. German socialism was far too kind to literal genetic devils, and they were lied about and slandered after they lost anyway. In for a penny, in for a pound. If you're going to be a monster no matter what you do, you may as well hunt all the blood libel kikes down and skin them, so some of them at least face some consequences for the last 10,000 years of lies. God commanded the Israelites to cleanse the land of Canaan, or they would regret it. God was right. They failed due to their own weakness and moral failings, and they did indeed regret it. God was right, and the task He gave us should be fulfilled. No more pardons. No more lies. No more excuses for being weak and pitying the wicked. No more "a few good jews" and one-sixteenth jewish officers that are 'basically German.' No more "we'll keep some of the women and children around, because God is a big old meany-pants and can't really have meant ALL of them, right?"No more. Nits make lice. God was right about everything. The Holocaust didn't happen, but it should have and it will. The jews predicted six million of them would be killed some time in the future. Isn't it time we made honest men out of them? For Simeon of Trent? For Christ? For Uncle Adolf? Righteous men don't make peace with evil. They destroy it. It's time for jews to be honest, and white men to be righteous.
>>544505539A majority of modern NatSoc's deny the genocide project and try to say if only they had been better in invading Russia. I say invading Russia doomed them for being unreasonable and unstable in God's eyes.
>>544505539>You can wear a hammer and sickle shirt around and no one will care. You cannot wear a swastika shirt.Exactly, because Stalin won and Hitler lost. Stalin's ideas, and actions, still have an effect on the world. Even from the grave, Stalin's actions prevent Nazism from existing. That's how powerful and decisive his victory. Even today,
>>544503816>You don't even need to engage with pilpulyou are the enemy.>Citing jewish gobbledygook=>literal pilpulIn a better world you'd be the first to go into a camp.
>>544503873>Most whites dislike it because at its core Nazi ideology comes into conflict with the foundations of Western civilizationChristianity and Christian values are the problem here. If the West would forget Christian values and their impact on Western culture and the common Western worldview, NatSoc would feel much less crazy and evil to most Whites.
>>544505770Abandoning Christianity is what failed the Nazis.
>>544505688Had America and England stood with their Christian brothers against the communist horde, they would have been successful. We supported evil and now our children are the ones who suffer for it. All the satanic nonsense that America spews comes directly from WW2. It was a battle against evil and we picked evil. Full stop.>>544505720Literally no one gives a shit about Stalin. Sorry tankie, if your ideology worked it wouldnt have been defeated by fucking pizza hut lmfao
>>544505870America abandoned Christianity and won
>>544505720>the world is shaped by the most bloodthirsty and merciless Three types of people say such things>idiots>Americans>degeneratesGreat, let's always live in the shadow of mongolian rapists and nigger dictators. Based!
>>544503816what the fuck is this post, dudeanswer the fucking thread question. you contribute nothing to the discussion by copypasting this
>>544503873so a White china then
>>544505675>Then you'd realise the Nazis did almost everything entirely correct, given the time, frameworks and constraints they had, for instance the imminent danger from the (((red))) east.Stalin wanted to join the Axis. The only reason the Nazis had coordinated enemies on two fronts was because of Hitler's decisions.
>>544503934You're chronically retarded. The NSDAP failed God because they were too merciful to His enemies. The German state did not deliberately kill a single jew. Any German who was caught harassing or harming jews was jailed, and if they were military personnel, they would face a firing squad. And those laws were enforced. That's how seriously they took the concept of peaceful mass relocation. The Holocaust is a complete myth, it did not happen. God abandoned Germany because the Germans were too merciful to the ancient enemies of Israel. God turned His back on Germany because Germany spared the jews. You must understand, if Christ had lived in Germany during the NSDAP era, the party would have jailed him after he attacked those jews with a homemade whip. That's the reason they lost. There hasn't been an active, serious attempt to hold jews accountable for their actions in the West since the Spanish Inquisition. Even then, arguably not! Because the Inquisition was concerned about the SINCERITY of jewish conversions, and accusing the jews of insincerely converting to Catholicism to escape punishment for capital crimes! They technically didn't have a problem with jews becoming Catholics, and they SHOULD HAVE!Uncle Vlad might actually have been the last. Vlad Tepes III was the last time anyone actually held jews accountable for their bullshit in a coordinated retaliation. And they've pained him as a blood drinking genocidal monster ever since. Projection much?You won't get the God of Israel on your side by being more merciful than Uncle Adolf, fool. You'll just fail faster. Read the bible, read the history books, and then read the bible again. God told us what He expects. He told us who the enemy was, and all of history has vindicated Him. Christ's life and death vindicates the genocides of the Old Testament.
>>544505870From the beginning the Nazis only showed public support for Christianity to appeal to the masses. They were always critical of it and had they won they would have started to phase it out for some sort of atheism or agnosticism. It is not why they failed and especially today it would do ethnonationalist movements a great favor to just embrace a more or less neutral stance on religion as a whole and not talk about it publicly.
>>544506181Atheists weren't even allowed into the SS
>>544505922>Literally no one gives a shit about Stalin. Sorry tankie, if your ideology worked it wouldnt have been defeated by fucking pizza hut lmfaoYou Nazis openly admit you can't even be Nazis in public because of Stalin's legacy, lol. You clearly care. Even more, Stalin has actual influence in Russia, China, Vietnam, and North Korea. Even in the United States, Stalinists out number you.Hitler has nothing, and his supporters curse his name from the shadows of the internet. Stalin's is just in a league of his own, and he haunts you to this day.>>544505995>Nazis upset that Stalin represented the superiority complex and "will to power" they could never achieveSay it ain't so!
>>544506215All a show for the masses. It worked for them then. It would not benefit us today.
>>544506256>America is a shining beacon of Stalins idealsI suppose both America and Stalin enjoyed jews fucking their kids, so you got me there
>>544503873>In a way Nazism was one of the most anti-human ideologies ever conceived, since it views humanity itself as its biggest enemy.Well that’s just government in general, we are a liability to be managed. You have to imagine that the elites must long to be free of us as much as we long to be free of them.
>>544506117Again, incredible nonsense. Stalin was truly the one hellbent on conquering Europe. It's the Russian tradition to hog resources like a nigger and just build a war machine. Which is what they're doing right now. Barbarossa cannot be understood without this angle.It was always clear that the eastern menace had to stop. And once more, history now says Adolf Hitler was right without question.Stalin was not somebody you could have as a partner. The systems were too different. The Soviets were all the inhumane things jews now connected to 30s Germany. It's an enormous evil empire which at best which will be disfunctional.
>>544506262Atheists, like all materialists, are poor soldiers. They can share your ideals but in the moment of action, if their lives are on the line, most will choose self-interest over collective interests. Shit they dont even have to be soldiers, just look at how atheists today are majority hedonistic leftists and cowards.
>>544506138If Russia had been an unrighteous Canaan for the Nazis to make into their own Zion, then God would have let it happen as the Nazis wanted, rather than use Russia as an instrument to destroy them.
>>544506409>Stalin bans christianity >God considers this righteous
>>544506384If Russia was going to be disfunctional, why gamble on a risky invasion when they did, rather than wait until their own superior system could guarantee a victory? or were the Nazis actually comparably disfunctional. see >>544504986
>>544506256Your jewish rants about raw power is just more reason to hate monsters like Stalin and pity Russians who've been turned into Untermenschen by him. We want White people to ascend. You gloat at our suffering. I don't have to ask to know you support zionism.>>544505922yes the ultimate irony is that (((America))) saved communism and gave it another 40 years.
>>544506523Its because were occupied by jews. A grim fate for a naive people
>>544506300>Stalin was truly the one hellbent on conquering Europe. Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf that was planning to invade the Soviet Union. This is just nazi cope.It's funny too because it doesn't change that you lost, so there's no point in doing this besides cope.
>>544503789We would actually "liquidate" jews this time around, rather than play nice. Hitler was a moderate in the NSDAP, and obviously he didn't go far enough.
>>544506583He was right to do so, Stalin was a piece of shit that slaughtered millions of people and fully intended on destroying Europe. We should have helped Hitler.
>>544506474There was nothing he could have accomplished by waiting.Again, we know Stalin had assembled the biggest invasion army in all of history and was poised to attack. Barbarossa was a pre emptive attack at the last minute. A couple months later, Stalin would have steamrolled the whole of Europe. I guess maybe the US would have nuked a dozen cities? Who knows, it's highly speculative, but the continent would have been red to the Atlantic.Adolf Hitler saved western Europe.
>>544506391A true Christian can never cross certain mental barriers to become a true defender of their race. Ask a Christian if they would rather have a world without any Whites that would be mostly Christian or a mostly White world that would be atheist or agnostic and you will see what their values truly are. Atheists are only degenerate today because of Jewish and leftist meddling in culture. A Christian family may be better at resisting degeneracy than the average atheist family but they will also resist any ideas of true tribalism the same way.
>>544506181>From the beginning the Nazis only showed public support for Christianity to appeal to the masses.The table talks were completely fabricated by MI6 to turn the average Briton against Germany, and even mainstream historians don't take it seriously anymore. Retards like you will still cling to it, because you have an anti-Christian agenda and are willing to be utterly dishonest about it. You will shill literal CIA narratives if it supports your ongoing daddy issues. Also, that meme is pure cope. >atheists are either morbidly obese or skeletonmode freaks>"God isn't real but He did make everyone equal"/"Evolution is true but stopped at the neck for humans only">98% race traitors, hold European blood and culture in contempt>literally do not breed, the only sex they know is faggot sodomy>arguments based on European Enlightenment contrarianism and whataboutisms, literal reddit philosophy>has never had an original thought in their lives, or they would be agnostics>seethes about religion enough to make a meme depicting himself as the chad over and over again (it will never be true)>his last argument of desperation is to claim all the agnostic normies as being atheists, so he can at least pretend to not be a freak
>>544506523Stalin wasn't a monster for killing Nazis. He was a hero for defending his country from genocidal invaders. You're just angered he stopped them,
>>544506729>genocidal invadersAlways projection with you lot
>>544506652>Stalin was a piece of shit that slaughtered millions of peopleNazis aren't people
>>544506711Christians were fine with racial states for two thousand years, wtf are you talking about
>>544506823I was talking about the millions of slavs he killed. I guess he didnt think communists were people either..
>>544506883>I was talking about the millions of slavs he killed.Millions of slavs weren't Nazis.
>>544506729Starve to death.am yisrael chazirimam yisrael met
>>544506409>If Russia had been an unrighteous Canaan for the Nazis to make into their own Zion, then God would have let it happen as the Nazis wanted, rather than use Russia as an instrument to destroy them.Russian people allowed genocidal jews to ban Christianity in their nation instead of dragging them out into the streets and lynching them. God punished this by allowing them to be destroyed by their mistakes.The Germans made excuses for the jews who openly tried to slaughter them, and put the jews in labor camps with movie theaters and maternity wards instead of cracking whips over their heads and driving them into the sea. God punished this by allowing them to be destroyed by their mistakes. America and Europe engaged in the great brother war in service to jewish interests and power. God punished this by allowing us to be destroyed by the jews we should have fought. The jews spit on God and hold Him in contempt, spilling the blood of the innocent and mocking the holy. God punishes this by sending dreams of rightiousness and prophecies of truth into the youth, and raising up the ghost of Adolf Hitler from his grave for the whole world to see. Everyone who failed God was punished. The jews, who sinned the greatest, are now being exposed worldwide in a way they can't take back, even if they shut off the whole internet tomorrow. The hand of God is clearly visible in the outcome of World War II. Russians live in squalor because they still can't bring themselves to reject Stalin and return to Christ. Europeans and Americans suffer under all the curses of the Old Testament, such as being ruled over by foreigners and having shrewish wives and effeminate sons. But God still shows mercy to the children, He still torments the jews. God sends fire and truth to the youth, and rips down all the propaganda and lies to let the bitter reality be known. I'm right, and you know it. No sarcastic exaggerations or twisting of words can change what is plain to see.
>>544506938They were, actually. Die.
>>544506938Yes, and he killed them anyway
>>544506823what about the Russians and Ukrainians and other eastern Europeans he killed? Are they not people?
>>544506970>>544506965No, he did kill millions of Nazis, spies and corrupt bureaucrats. You have Stalin confused with someone else.
>>544503789Secure the borders and slowly undermine enemies from within their borders.
>>544503789I wouldn't send gays to camp
>>544507021He never killed millions of Russians and Ukrainians.
>>544506725It doesn't make logical sense to be an ethnonationalist or neo-nazi and also Christian. It causes too much cognitive dissonance which immediately weakens any political movement.>>544506841Yeah when their states were still ethnically homogeneous by default and they didn't have massive hoards of shitskins within their borders. These days Christians are the prime cuckservatives that could never bear to throw out millions of shitskins born in their nations as needs to be done because that would mean being too mean to innocent little nigger children and fellow Christians of a different race. We (and especially your mutt country) need more radical measures than what Christian moralfags can allow.
>>544506583laughable third grader's reading of Mein Kampf.The Drang nach Osten has been a historic fact for centuries. Germans have been welcome with open arms for when they showed up, prosperity followed without fail. This shitty, jewish trick of holding 100 year old texts up to modern standards is so disingenious because everybody was talking like that. What counted in the end were facts. Facts like >Stalin produces tens of thousands of tanks>dismantles his expensive, conplicated western defensive line>places all his attack aircraft near the borders>increases his army to hitherto unseen size, without being able to maintain it for long, obviously>mass prints and hands out German phrase books and offensive plans, no defensive plans whatsoever (which is why Germans could steamroll them) to the officers>certifies hundreds of thousands (you read that right) of paratroopersand moreall these strategies only make sense for an impending assault. Some of the orders were so crude and orc like it boggles the mind, like training some paratroopers regiments in climbing on top of planes and literally jumping from the open fuselage..
>>544507147Christian pan-nationalism is rooted in Old Testament ethnonationalism; transcending nationality or ethnicity can only be done righteously in a way that benefits the self-interest of the participating nationality. If Christianity was a cancer on the peoples who believed it there would be no peoples still who believe it, and peoples who abandon it would not be failures as they are.
>>544506729He wasn't a hero defending his country, he just drank and whored most of the time like the bandit he was.It's good if your opponents readily admit they root for human refuse. It makes it that more easy to show who's who.
>>544507177>Stalin was preparing to invade Nazi Germany because he had an army that was powerfulStalin read Mein Kampf, knew Hitler was going to invade eventually, and was prepared for war. Only a person with special needs would think this is a great argument against Stalin's foresight and intelligence. Again, what is the point? You lost, lying doesn't change history you live in.
>>544507296>He wasn't a hero defending his country,Most Russians don't even agree with you, lol.
>>544506953>Nazis lost for not doubling down enough on NaziismI think they lost because they thought they couldn't lose
>>544503789Actually do the holocaust. And win the war.
>>544503789they should have just round up Jews and kill them all 1938 instead of letting them flee to Europe and the USA so they could corrupt them and bribe them into the war. Also should have stopped expansion after invading Poland, actual Slovenia and Austria. This would have probably avoided WW3 and the dystopian situation we live today.
>>544507319You're right but for the wrong reasons.Stalin was planning on attacking Nazi Germany and his troops were in an offensive position by the time Barbarossa started, which is the reason why the red army got btfo so quickly, since they weren't expecting Hitler to preemptively attack them.So tell us again who's the real savage invader? The Nazis who saw a Soviet invasion as an imminent threat and decided to attack them first, or the soviet niggers who wanted to conquer Europe because they wanted everyone to be retarded commies just like them and by force if necessary
>>544507409>>544507742Operation Barbarossa is where it all went wrong. They could have won the war if they just stopped.
>>544507808Hitler blew his brains out, in his bunker, while Stalin's army controlled over half of Europe.Telling HOI4 fairy tales on 4chan doesn't change that. It's even more hilarious you keep saying "Stalin doesn't matter", but have to spend so much time here slandering his legacy. It's clear that he haunts you from the grave.
>>544503789Blaming others is instant failure. Racism denies the biological superiority if diversification.
>>544506662Seeing how close the Germans were to winning an offensive war, imagine how much better they would have been advantaged if it had been defensive from the start? It would have been total war far earlier, and focused on life or death things rather than offensive prospects.
>>544507847Communism failed after Stalin died, because he was a Fascist holding it together
>>544503873Kys Schmueli. Hitler said he wanted to pattern Germany partly based upon the original founding laws of America. Rejection of the Founding Fathers and Germany has lead us to picrel; a world where white non-jewish humans are seen as futureless and without a homeland.
>>544506474Read a book once in a while. The Germans were getting 30% of the oil from the USSR. They had oil until march 1942 without any major operations.What do you think the logical choice is? Wait until the USSR recovers from the army purges and builds up its army or strike while you can and try to get the oil fields?Just as a reminder before the attack on stalingrad and the caucuses began germany had to remove trucks and tanks from its army due to how bad the oil shortage was. 50% of the axis oil came from romania, can you imagine today europe getting 50% of their oil from tiny romania and having to support thousands of planes tanks trucks?
>>544507847Source?Where was Hitler's corpse then, you seething kike tranny?You're projecting your own insecurities onto others as usual, rabbi. Go get that Hitler derangement syndrome treated before you end up acking yourself
>>544508048Read the Bible. God cheats for those he favors and against those he disfavors. If the Nazis hadn't been aggressive for its own sake God wouldn't have punished them for it. This isn't saying none of their prior victories were good however. I think everything before Barbarossa was a legitimate win, as it was against aggressive Western powers.
>>544508078The Hitler suicide story originated with those trustworthy Soviet Russians that also publicized the rollercoaster of death and masturbation machines LMAO. To see illiterate mutts repeating Soviet propaganda of 80 years ago in 2026 confirms how stupid they are.
>>544508206So Britain starting WW2 wasn't aggression then. Right bubba.
>>544508314Reading comprehension
I'm not a genocidal nordicist for one
>>544508265>>544508078We have images of Goebbels body, you think the person most loyal to hitler would stay in berlin and die while he went to argentina? Why would hitler make a last political testament?David Irving had an interview with Otto Günsche the guy who burned hitler's body. You have like 4 people saying the same stuff about that day right after being captured without having time to coordinate a fake story. There is absolutely no doubt hitler died that day.
>>544508265>>544508078>Hitler fled Germany as Soviet troops dismantled and his entire regime, partitioned his countryDespite this too being a fantasy (there were Nazi eye witnesses who confessed to it, and DNA evidence confirmed it), it's even worse because you admit that Nazis are effeminate losers lmfao.It also explains why you're too afraid to walk outside with a Nazi shirt, speaking of "insecurities." You seem to be very afraid to leave the internet.
>Hitler fled while Soviet troops raped and looted BerlinChad behavior, guess he was okay with it too
>>544503873>Nazism offers none of that - instead of individualism it expects people to be extremely collectivist to the point where a human is no longer their own unique self, but disposable resource to be used by the state and discarded as soon as it stops being usefulThat's USSR you fag. You would think being a russian you would understand the difference between communism, which had informants in every apartment block under Stalin, and National Socialism, where Hitler rode in open-topped cars and shook hands with cheering crowds
>>544503789have a one drop and you get the shower-rule instead of this pussy ass softball shit
>>544508827How would a victory be gained from this? Also, if you agree with Hitler in general terms, you are condemned to submit to his government in particulars.
>>544508660Lmao, like Otto was going to tell everyone, oh yeah he got away to Argentina, I actually burned some other guy's corpse that day but lied about it for 50 years to save my ass.His testimony is as reliable as a jew's claims about the drowning pool, and the bear and eagle in a cage having existed
>>544503934I think if you want to actually get an idea for what National Socialism is, which you should definitely do before trying to figure out what to do differently, you should probably stop calling them by a political slur that was invented to caricaturize them and their beliefs. And don't put too much stock into what people at Nuremberg said, they were tortured and some of them just said whatever they thought would convince the Allies to let them go. Others weren't so quick to abandon their life's work.
>>544508780The USSR was a country siege by spies & saboteurs so it was necessary, Nazis had no real opposition. Even then, Stalin had massive crowds and parades. You have no idea what you're talking about, as do all you Mexican Nazis lmfao
>>544509037They were forced to abandon it by losing though. What doomed them to lose?
>>544509034still haven't adressed my point about hitler supposedly leaving goebbels behind and letting him kill his 6 children and kill himself
>>544509034You're kind of retarded if you think Hitler, who was suffering serious health issues and would likely be dead within a handful of years anyways, who only approved of the Navy by the war's end and thought everyone else was abandoning their duty, who devoted his entire life to his people, would just abandon literally everything he lived for so he could sit in a safe house in South America and watch helplessly as everything he built was systematically destroyed. He said "capitulation is not in my vocabulary" enough times that it's really amazing there are even people who think he would just run away.>>544509137The USSR was literally being fed everything thanks to the Red Opera. They knew more about what Germany was going to do than Churchill did.>>544509140Plenty. The number one problem was counterespionage failures. Number 2 is probably arrogance, they didn't have any idea their encryption had been cracked. After that, nepotism - Hitler felt he owed things to people who had been useful in WWI and during their struggle to gain power - as a result he waited way too long to relieve people of positions they shouldn't have been in, like Goring. After that, an assumption that Britain knew the stakes and wouldn't commit to utterly destroying Germany, which led to Hitler going far too easy on them until it was too late to matter. Beyond this, a belief Communists could be rehabilitated, when in reality all those commies they trusted later would end up contributing to that counterespionage problem I mentioned earlier, but also sabotaging Germany at every opportunity. For example the guy sent to negotiate Franco's entry into the war convinced him to make demands Berlin couldn't agree to. Then the actual logistical problem, they just didn't imagine the war would last so long and didn't prepare thoroughly for the especially harsh winter. Then their unwillingness to use females for the war effort until again it was too late to matter. Dishonest generals too.
oh sorry, red orchestra
>>544506474Everyone believed the Russians would fold instantly, because of how they had performed in WWI and against Japan. Hitler didn't have all the time in the world and needed to deal with the Communist threat ASAP, he was seriously concerned for how Germany would perform if he died because he knew there was no one who could fill the same role in keeping the country so united and determined. Moreover the USSR was only building up as time went on and as the Mannerheim conversation shows, he was well aware of how easily they could occupy Romania and deprive Germany of its much needed oil.
>>544503789Just stop Japan from bombing Pearl Harbor. Maybe have U.S.A. support Germany instead of England and Russia.I just don't want to have to race mix. I think American rock n roll and movies are awesome.
>>544509531I agree there were a bunch of small fuckups but I think if a big fuckup could be pointed to it would be more useful. That big fuckup being invading Russia. Demonstrates a willingness to risk and be aggressive by default, a war focus and not a peace one, and ultimately an instability.
>>544509531I always hear about Goering being incompetent but i never get reasons why. He had a 138 iq in nuremberg after losing fat and detoxing.On the top of my mind i can maybe thing him being at fault for not stopping the 1943 bombings and him being in charge of the economy in 1936 and berlin having a coal shortage but other than that i've never heard any other significant reasons to why he was incompetent
>>544507847As if Stalin getting poisoned by his own kikes is any better.
>>544509806The US wouldn't support Germany under any circumstances, because FDR had a personal hand in fomenting the war in the first place. His entire strategy was basically to salvage his domestic failures through war profiteering.>>544509833Those mentioned were the major fuckups. There was no singular thing they could have done differently that would have guaranteed success, but the biggest failure of all was out of their hands - the military leadership was staunchly monarchist and didn't approve of Hitler at all.Invading Russia was necessary because Russia was planning an invasion. Go listen to the Hitler Mannerheim speech, you can find it on youtube and Hitler had no reason to lie there, it was recorded without his knowledge. Peace = get invaded by major powers once they think they can win. Hitler's """aggression""" at every step of the way was only an attempt to remove a threat. This goes over it quite well:https://ihr.org/other/what-the-world-rejected-htmlAnd since I have no more time right now, Goring was of the same opinion. Picrel.
>>544510010Stalin wasn't poisoned, he died from over working himselfRunning the most powerful country on Earth takes a toll on the bodyHe also had one of the largest funerals in Russian history
>>544510011>Europeans who lose world wars are better Europeans than Europeans who win themInteresting philosophy.
>>544507147>It doesn't make logical sense to be an ethnonationalist or neo-nazi and also Christian. It causes too much cognitive dissonance which immediately weakens any political movement.Racemixing is one of only a handful of crimes for which an automatic death penalty is to be applied under the moral law. Almost everything else can be punished as the appointed judges and community elders see fit. But for adultery, racemixing, sodomy, and bestality, the death sentence is immediate and automatic. Going even further, the scripture elaborates on the racemixed, and proclaims that a bastard can never be allowed back into the community even if 100 generations have passed. So once a group is racemixed, they are tainted FOREVER. That's the literal One Drop Rule, a measure of racial purity to the harshest possible degree. If someone had a nigger in their heritage 100 generations ago, you aren't white according to the Old Testament. Every ethnonationalist I've ever spoken to balked at the One Drop Rule. Everyone like you who has ever debated me was taken aback by such a standard, and tried to insist that SOME racial compromise MUST be given.The only reason you think the bible isn't racist is because you have never once read it in your entire life. Not only is scripture explicitly ethnonationalist, it has standards so harsh that all self-proclaimed ethnonationalists today balk at them.The only weakening and undermining element here is you.
>>544511433God expands the covenant to Christians
>>544511576>God expands the covenant to ChristiansChrist called the moral law good, and said it would remain in effect until the end of time.Christ also said he came for the lost sheep of the House of Israel, and no one else. Salvation was only ever offered to Abraham and his ethnic descendents, which the European races are. You're espousing Replacement Theology, which is a heresy rooted in greed and politics and for which no scriptural support exists. White people fulfilled the prophecy that Abraham's children were supposed to. They became many nations that warred with one another, they conquered the world, they owned every piece of land they ever touched, they forgot who they used to be, and they adopted a new name for themselves after the savior, Christ, calling themselves Christians. White people are the Israelites. "God expanded the covenant to Christians" is such a cartoonishly wrong statement that it's hard to even explain to you how confused it really is. And even if Replacement Theology were correct, you can't escape Christ explicitly endorsing the moral law and saying it would be in effect forever. That's still a hard death penalty for racemixing.
>>544512443If there is neither Jew nor Greek for ye are all one in Christ Jesus, then the covenant was expanded to Christian gentiles.
>>544510186lol>>544510555'win'and yet, look at Europe today. Were it not for the atom bomb, literally everything he predicted would come true. As it is, his prediction about the British Empire ending was true, commies still got into power there even without WW3, and Europe is subservient to foreign powers. >Losing makes you worseWell why bother making this thread then? You apparently are quite happy with the world the jews created after getting stupid goys to go kill Germany for them, and they won, so they're obviously 'better' and there's no point trying to figure out what the other side could have one differently because they're 'worse' and shouldn't be emulated at all. Unless that's not what your dismissive response was implying?
>>544505755>You HAVE to engage with JewsNo YOU are Jewish.
>>544503789>so it would be nice if we could failure-proof our ideas and not share the same fatethe problem, is you are the problem. You are worse than the nazis because the nazis held education in high regard.. whereas you want to be as stupid as possible.
>>544512677What is your point?
>>544503941
>>544505675>How come every piece of art is shit now and people can't say why? Why is every movie playing the same songs starting from the 80s? Why don't we have great books anymore? 1. You didn't look hard enogh2. Corporates and investors tend to avoid avant garde and be risk averse hence the same old shit repeated over and over again. This is mainly because of increasing production costs stemming from inflation. 3. You ask "why" but can't answer it quite yourself.
>>544512906That your post >>544510555 was retarded. That it implies people who 'won' a war (to the detriment of Europe) are somehow better Europeans than the people whose goal was ultimately to defend Europe from International Jewry. That this post of yours not only suggests such stupid notions, but also actively dismisses everything shown to you before. That it also gives the lie to the thread itself and makes me wonder "why make this thread at all?", because while you present yourself as sympathetic and wanting to 'prevent future failures', it's pretty clear (just by your terminology but especially after dismissing it all and trying to reframe the conversation around the (preemptive) invasion of Russia) that you aren't sympathetic at all and are attempting Socratic questioning to get people to disapprove of said invasion and hostility toward one's enemies generally. But only for us 'nazis' I'm sure.
>>544503789The Nazis were right, we fucked up
>>544505688>A majority of modern NatSoc's deny the genocide project and try to say if only they had been better in invading Russia. I say invading Russia doomed them for being unreasonable and unstable in God's eyes.I think a lot of people wrongly assume that if Hitler completely ignored the USSR everything would've turned out fine and Stalin would've just jacked off in a corner.There was a proposal in their government to attack Germany preemptively, and also, when the Germans attacked, the Russians had a lot of tanks and troops very near the border, and not dug in at all, which suggested that they were preparing for offense, not defence. Which is why in the early invasion, the soviets faced heavy losses.
>>544513784How do you say I am disapproving of invasion and hostility when I previously acknowledge that Germany's asserting its own power in Europe against the Western powers was legitimate and only suggest that the aggression for its own sake against Russia was what doomed them to failure?
>>544513434Seethe more Trantifa.
>>544514300Do you contend that Stalin was more interested in war than Hitler? It seems Hitler had announced plans to utterly destroy Russia in Mein Kampf.
>>544503789>if we could failure-proof our ideaslmao. I bet that you're the kind of guy who believes that if you just say the right sequence of words with the right tonality, you can get any girl, even as a fat bald manlet.The nazis didn't fail because of ideology or ideas. It's just that their enemies, the >rootless international clique of bankers controlled countries that had larger populations and stronger industry. It was pretty much over from the start.
>>544514904>The nazis didn't fail because of ideology or ideasYou don't think they made mistakes?
>>544503873
>>544515051>You don't think they made mistakes?They made plenty, but what I am saying is that from a logistical perspective I don't see any way in which they could've won, so nitpicking over specific battles and tactics is kinda pointlessJust one factor that goes a long way: Germany was constantly under threat of bombing and had to huddle their factories underground, while the US had no such worries and could outproduce the whole axis combined.
>>544505257it is imperative to exterminate ziggers
>>544515627>nitpicking over specific battles and tactics is kinda pointlessI appeal to the broader account of things being that God judged Germany for its aggression and gave it what it deserved. Any disagreement sustains God as imperfect and unjust.
>>544515764did you bless Israel today so that god can bless you back?
>>544515923Are you unconvinced of the Christ-rejecting Jews being cursed of God for 2000 years? Do you think they didn't have it coming every single time?
>>544515764What the fuck? What kind of nigger brained argument is this? That the US is juat so fucking perfect that God blessed us with niggers and Epstein, is that right? You fucking cucks need to be purged, youre worse than jews
>>544503789America needs separate territories, racially, culturally, and spirituallyVegetarianism and vegetarian co-ops should be Aryan requirementsHitler was right about Ethnic Jews but underestimated the amount of non aryan, judeo cultural, traitors, and lesser whites... So the cultural and spiritual separations even amongst whites needs to be stressed more... "Fellow whites" are sometimes fully white, tooMore individualityDetachments and separations and the enemies will kill themselves at this point they're beyond repulsiveRead all of my shit posts and memes, AnonEvery white is a "fellow white" until proven and all non whites are double niggers, niggers until proven as FRENsAlso insulting women more, most modern women aren't worth enlightening but accepting that they're not mutually compatible and lack common ground Etc etc
>>544503789Personally what i'd do would be to contain Mussolini for being a complete and total retard and solo losing the war. Also wouldn't get on with the whole Havaara agreement.
>>544516055Where do you get this idea that I am not critical of the USA?
>>544516193The United States is evil, Hitler was right, the good guys lost WW2.
The USA DOESN'T have the colossal fuckup of putting all power into one guy who is clearly a lawless aggressor. That got weeded out of Germany by natural selection. The USA has some colossal fuckups that have been building for a long time since, sure. But we can't revert to Naziism to fix these problems, Naziism isn't even a real ideology, it's just Hitler, who was wrong and failed.
>>544516269If Hitler was right, why was he wrong to the point of failure? It seems whatever he was right about can be considered overshadowed by whatever he was wrong about.
>>544503789Make the holocaust a reality. Build real gas chambers
>>544516330Be silent jew lover, you cunts are the reason we are in this situation. You worthless fucking boomers need to hurry up and die already. Die in a fire old man, you pieces of shit sold us out to jews for cruises and sports gambling. Hitler was right, Hitler is right, Hitler will be right.
>>544503789Not be fucking socialist for one.Private property rights are fundamental to a free society
>>544516380>Korea>Vietnam>Iraq>Afghanistan>Ukraine>IranYou keep getting your shit kicked in and still you cling to the delusion that this nation is worth defending. You fucking scum, if youre not a jew, you may as well be. Youre just as fucking revolting as they are.
>>544516473They had private property you stupid tool
>>544516420>you cunts are the reason we are in this situationIt seems God has punished Americans for abandoning his righteousness, just as he punished the French, Russians, and especially Germans with destruction.
nazis again were right. the longer i live, the more my eyes are opened
>>544516473Youre a fucking retard. Ns wasnt Marxist
>>544503789Giving other countries an excuse to attack you. He should not have invaded Poland.
>>544516516Dont hide your failures behind God. You people dis this yourselves, you fucked us, you stabbed us in the back. Die old man. We dont need you.
>>544503789>don't be lead by controlled opposition>decentralization>getting rid of all leftists >turn the right into several political parties
>>544516599I literally don't care if you are a dumb nigger who can't read just like leftists you are getting beaten and replaced by.
>>544503789Denounce international socialism (a form if which is nazism). Then let people free with minimal goverment intervention
>>544503873Nicely explained.
>>544516679Shut the fuck up nigger lover. You people wanted to be surrounded by niggers and jews. Thats our divine punishment- thats God having a big laugh at our worthless fucking forebears. Dont pretend to be racist its fucking cringe>>544516718>nationalism is the same as globalismJust more kike well poisoning.
>>544503934Because he underestimated the jewish controls in all of government
>>544516473honestly I can def fuck with their take on socialism>nationalization of certain large corporations>abolition of interest-based income
They brutally underestimated the the recklessness of their enemies.They should have taken a much tougher and more ruthless stance on just about everything.
>>544505770Thats why many islamists love nazism. Both are death cults.
>>544516941>>544517033There's this idea that Hitler wasn't extreme enough, that if only they had had better more pure Nazi leadership they would have won. You do realize Hitler would not have permitted you to make this criticism of the ideology he established for his state, right? Maybe the flaws are prior to assuming the absolute ideological perfection of Hitler.>>544516937If we had stayed upright we would not have fallen into the power of non-Americans
>>544505945*Bible belt blocks your path*
>>544517138Nazi islamists, far more common that you thought they are.
>>544517178>if >if>ifWorthless. Hitler told us EXACTLY what was happening and our ancestors were too stupid, proud, and weak to listen. Now theyre in literal hell and were in metaphorical hell. Stupid fucking boomer. The truth is right there in your face and you cant see it because youre yoo proud. God your generation is pathetic. >>544517138Nazis would pay families to have kids, unlike you jews, who just want to rape them.
>>544503816>t. jew desperately trying to herd the increasingly rogue goyim into worshipping a jew
>>544503789I think you can't really run an entire country off of military autism alone. Time and time again, societies that were like this fall apart the first time they lose a war because they have nothing else going for them.
>>544517300So being stupid proud and weak leads to defeat? Sort of like the Nazis in WWII
>>544517513If the military autism seeks peace, that is different from if it seeks war for war's sake. Aggressors are unintelligent and go against God's will.
>>544503934>the testimony of men subjugated to genital torture is accurate and truthfulI disregarded your entire post after the first sentence. Back to the drawing board
>>544517524All I have to do is look outside. Thats it. Thats the world you cunts wanted, right out there- and you know what anon? It tells me "Hitler was right". Thats how colossal your failure is, the very land itself revolts against you.
>>544517178Even if he had been more radical, he might have not stood a chance.His enemies were already omnipotent in terms of monetarian and therefore physical resources at the moment he came into power.The scale of required ruthless measures - even toward people who were essentially similar to his own - would have had to reach unimaginable proportions, and it would have taken almost superhuman efforts to turn things around at that point.
>>544517726Your idol Hitler was given over by God to his own mistakes' destruction
>>544517811You don't think God could have preserved Nazi Germany if the Nazis had been in line with God's will?
>>544517586National socialist Germany’s war was defensive. Your response to this statement will show if you are smart, or not.
>>544517586Well no, defense is supposed to be just one part of society that exists to ensure the security of everything else. When it is the biggest part of your culture, the "everything else" then exists in service of it, rather than it working in society's service.
>>544517899Your idol Jeffery Epstein is in hell along with your precious race traitors
>>544518009How is war for Lebensraum defensive exactly?
>>544503789A lot of their racial ideas were based on wrong data because they didn't have the technology back then
>>544518095I accept your concession
>>544518176MY concession? Nigger we live in a fucking shithole, what the FUCK are you talking about
>>544516330>The USA DOESN'T have the colossal fuckup of putting all power into one guy who is clearly a lawless aggressor.LolLmao
>>544518235you don't get it, if you'd just kneel to the sky jew more often, everything would fix itself
>>544518310>Drumpf is.. le HITLER!!!
>>544518334I miss when christians would burn jews. What the fuck happened man
>>544518334If God is not righteous why is life worth preserving?
>>544518403No correlation
>>544517995Depends on what you define as god.I'm not a fan of the Abrahamitic versions.
>>544518403Not all life is worth preserving. >jews>niggers>fags>you
>>544518361It's not just Trump.Is that your country has been firmly in the hands of a certain group.And that certain group is known for being extremly organised and having an oriental tendency to blindly follow the orders of their leaders. And because America has behaved like a retarded agressor especially since 9/11. But yeah this Trump war for Israel against Iran is the most glaring case.
>>544518483So God is impotent to govern his creation and most esteemed creatures?>>544518491The ones who hate Jesus want to filter out the Christians from knowledge of God's real righteousness. God is a god of plagueing everyone who deserves it as much as they deserve it, and also people who don't deserve it but can overcome it. Jews who hate Jesus have been cast off for 2000 years and are only allowed to live in the Holy Land because they are legally unable to persecute Christians there. Everyone's sin in unrighteousness is really a sin against their own self interest.
>>544518403God decided that our sons and daughters should be stabbed to death on trains and track meets, and you call this victory
>>544518647I am distinguishing Hitler's actions before Barbarossa from Barbarossa itself. I think the invasion of Russia was a proof that he was a lawless aggressor. I think his wars before that were justified.
>>544518716Skill issue. He gives over shit people to live in a shithole country. If you don't like it get with the program.
>>544518741Of course you would defend the communists lmfao, youre not even a christian are you, your a jew
>>544518695Looks to me like jews are doing great. I don't see this curse that you're talking about. The holocaust numbers are inflated btw
>>544518771>niggers murder your child>"skill issue"Yeah, youre just a jew. Should have caught that earlier.
>>544518797I'm not going to say God didn't use the Nazis to plague the Soviets as well, as, that is exactly what happened. Who would have thought, the two countries that abandoned God in the 19th century would fight each other in such a terrible bloody war?
>>544518844Wanting people to exercise their will against black criminals and not be weak anymore is judaism now?
>>544518909>doubles down on niggers murdering childrenFuck off and die jew
>>544518741The invasion of the Soviet Union was justified. You can claim he did it wrong but it was justified. It was a necessity. Stalin would have attacked him otherwise. And the regime there would always be at odds with Germany and all of Europe and the Civilised World.
>>544518836Looks like defeatism on your part. Hitler would make you keep your mouth shut.
>>544518965see>>544518107
>>544517995Nazi germany was righteous and with God for the first 10-yrs of its existence. It cleansed the Masonic presence and pulled Germany out of the death claws of Jews, with a national Christian morality commission that succeeded in every facet of society. Germany was a beacon in the hellscape on earth in the 1930s. Americans were starving, while Germany was enjoying paid vacations and free housing. You cannot argue this. Pagan Societies like the Thule society gained its ranks by 1940 and began sinking their teeth in the culture and twisted the national socialist system. This division and a false flag at Pearl Harbor, ended the German Reich. Hitler lost control of his system by 1941. The last 4 years were complete chaos. Imagine being such a great leader that your enemies have to lie about you 80 years later so your ghost doesn’t come back and destroy them
>>544519021You're a communist, I suspect.But everybody knows that the Bolshevik kikes based in Moscow were rabid war worshippers who delighted in killing innocents by the millions and they themselves were not shy about their intention to conquer the world, although Stalin reigned them in a bit.
>>544519201I'll grant that God didn't explicitly condemn them until 1941 when they invaded Russia and got what they deserved.
>>544503789VibeGHOULS (aka thirdies) were a mistake
>>544519269I see communism as similar to Naziism. I want to learn primarily things that are separate from these two failed ideological movements, secondarily I want to learn the actual core errors they made so I those mistakes can be avoided, thirdly I am open to pulling good ideas they had, if they had them.
Interestingly I think the core error of Hitler was the same as Napoleon, in being willing to invade a country and open up a front that didn't need to happen, Russia and Spain respectively.
>>544519301Even the Russian invasion was defensive. You have no idea what you’re saying and clearly are out of your depth
>>544519301Youre a communist jew
>>544519581see>How is war for Lebensraum defensive exactly?
>>544519363A system is not better or worse because it lost a war. The Germans lost the war because they fucked up the invasion of Russia despite their early astounding successes there.It was basically that they bit of more then they could eventually chew.Perhaps with a thing or two being different they would have been able to liberate Russia. I don't think neither National Socialism nor Bolsheviks were failed movements. They were both awesomely successful. Especially Bolshevism. I am not saying though that Bolshevism is the system that produces a better life for the people nor anything close to it.Hitler also clearly majorly fucked up by understimating Britain, and is some ways the USA. Or at least understimating how much the jews had taken Britain and how much of a huge power the USA would become with a destroyed Europe. The idea that political systems, ideologies or even states "fall" or "lose wars" because of flaws inherent to it is a myth. You're comparing oranges with apples. You cannot avoid mistakes, neither in politics, war or life in general. You're too blue pilled. Study the fundamentals of power, especially state power.
>>544519626I already explained it to you. Why do you refuse to accept reality for what it is?
>>544519581>>544519596Believing in a just God who governs the world is incompatible with communism. Nazis believe God was wrong to eradicate Naziism from Germany; Communists believe God was wrong to eradicate Communism from Russia; I think he was right on both counts.
>>544519788All those little fuckups don't matter, all that matters is the fact that God calls the shots in every war, and he didn't want the Nazis to accomplish their goals in the east. He was completely fine with them fucking over France, and Poland, and Czechoslovakia, just not Russia, and not what they were going to do in it.
>>544519977Perhaps.But we don't know the design or the will of God. You seem way too prone to atribute to God the shortcomings of men. The good lose more often than not.And it's not God's fault.
>>544519855>doesnt deny it>doesnt invoke JesusYup. Jew
>>544520285All the world is governed by wisdom/intelligence. When a shot needs to be called, he calls it. He does it by the way he established he would in the Law and Gospel.
>>544520293Ok you dance for me nigger. Be a good nazi and explain how hitler was actually right to lose the war.
>>544520393So Epstein is the will of Christ?
>>544520472Was Epstein the will of Christ?
>>544520487Human agency being corrupted by the fall is pretty much the center of the law and gospel
>>544520516Answer the fucking question, was Epstein the will of Christ? Say yes or no nigger
What is your point?
>>544505675The only post that matters. There is so much faggotry in this retarded thread it should be burned with hydrochloric acid.
>>544520610Answer the fucking question you disgusting pedo worshiper Was Jeffery Epstein the will of Christ?
>>544520646Anon did.Death and suffering were introduced into this world with sin. Everything bad that happens is a consequence of humanity decidedly choosing to distance themselves from God.
It's pretty simple. Just kill all niggers, kikes, sandapes and any other non-white group. There's some exceptions like Japenese and Korean but even they should live as second-hand citizens.Also we would not waste time and resources building huge concentration camps but we would simply kill them all in the streets. We would not bury them here in Europe in the US. We would put all their skeletons on container-ships and put their remains in the oceans
>>544520716Anons position is that our cursed hellworld was the will of God, thus, I ask, does he believe that Epstein is the will of Christ?
>>544520777You got lucky someone thought they could wipe your ass for you faggot stfu
>>544508078it really happened. my grandmother was there, she along with thousands of defenseless jewish and roma babies were used as kindling. he quickly shot himself then set the pile alight so that nothing would be left of his body. thankfully my grandmother was able escape by pretending to have a cold
>>544520836>deflectsOh whats this? Can't answer? Getting flustered? Was Epstein the will of Christ or not?
>>544520879im flusten your shit posts down the toilet
>>544520777God isn't the architect behind all the bad shit that happens in the world. That's an atheist meme.
>>544520911He kind of is though, all the plagues happen by his consent, it's how he governs
>>544520901You jews sure love your poop humor dont you? What happened to the LARP? Can't pretend to be a christian anymore? Was Epstein the will of Christ or not?
>>544520958see>>544520610
>>544520993Dont try and weasel out of it, you've been LARPing all day, finish the job cocksucker and answer the questionWas Epstein the will of Christ?
>>544521058Whats the Larp?
>>544520487>>544520512>>544520540>>544520646>>544520777>>544520879>>544520958>>544521058see>>544520716
>>544512612>If there is neither Jew nor Greek for ye are all one in Christ Jesus, then the covenant was expanded to Christian gentiles.The word 'jew' is a medieval term that would not be written down nor spoken aloud until over 1,000 years after Christ's death. It's inclusion in the bible in any form should be massive red flag to you, but of course, you are intellectually dishonest and seeking support for beliefs and politics you already held. You don't care about the truth. Christ said that there is no difference between the Judeans, one group of ethnic Aryans, and the Greeks, another group of ethnic Aryans. And when the Pharisees tried to claim to be Abraham's children, Christ rebuked them twice and called them the children of Cain, not Abraham. You can't escape this reality. And the more you fight me over it, the more you prove my point: secular ethnonationalists talk shit about Christianity, until the One Drop Rule comes up, and then suddenly you start pushing back against racial exclusionism, because the bible's standards are too extreme for you. You're a posturing racist who flinches and switches sides the moment real racism show's it's face.White people are the children of Abraham. Jews are lying pretenders, they are Hittites and Edomites, the vestiges of Cain's own bloodline. They were never part of any promise, and never will be.
>>544522395This is similar to Mein Kampf, have you ever read it? Retarded fanfiction of reality
>>544520512>Was Epstein the will of Christ?Yes, absolutely. God allows devils to have power over us so that we can understand and accept that God was right to command us to kill them, and that we were wrong to disobey and show mercy to Cain's children. All of the curses and the reasoning behind them are explained in the Old Testament.
>>544503873More whites have been killed by Commies in the gulags
>>544522552You know there is no need to Aryanize the Bible, right? The covenant of Christ is enough
>>544522486If you had a better arguing than crying big butthurt tears and going WOAH, WOAH, LET'S NOT BE RACIST GUYS, you would use it. You only call me retarded because you can't prove anything I've said is wrong. And that frightens you.
>>544522395>Jews are lying pretendersWhy did God give them the Holy Land? Or is that yet another thing God got wrong around WWII?
>>544517178>You do realize Hitler would not have permitted you to make this criticism of the ideology he established for his state, right? How do?
>>544522395post saved, thanks anon.
>>544503789Everybody who goes against Christ will perish and thank God for that.
>>544522609>NO REALLY GUYS, WOAH, DON'T BE RACISTYou cannot be a Christian and not be racist. God was racist, ordered racial genocides to be conducted, commanded all racemixers be put to death and their bastards killed or exiled, forbade the racemixed from ever being accepted back even if 100 generations had passed, and gave great blessings to multiple people for being racist or murdering people who threatened their race. Then Christ called all of that good and just, and reaffirmed that the moral law would remain in effect forever. He called the Canaanite woman at the well a dog that would never eat at the master's table, half of his parables were variations of race realism/"a rat born in a barn will never be a horse," and he called the Pharisees genetic devils before saying he only came for Abraham's blood descendents and no one else. The amount of cope retarded clowns like you have to engage in to de-fang the bible of it's endlessly and explicitly racist messaging is hilarious. The baby boomers grew up going to churches that openly taught racemixing was a foul sin against God, racemixing was literally ILLEGAL in the United States until 1967, with the case of Loving vs Virginia. You don't know shit. You don't want to know shit. Your entire position is pretending like the entire bible is a metaphor (BUT NOT FOR RACE) and that the last 1,000 years of history were just like the 90s, but without cars or television. In reality, no Christian born before the 1950s believed anything you believed.
>>544503789.Advance the military R tech, and gather more R money. Then America will be unstoppable, that's what Elon Musk is doing, right?GOP is not losing midterms.
>>544522946What is explicitly racist about Galatians 3:28?
>>544503789Just don't give the leader meth and it should be fine
>>544503789I’d start with the same nazism.Hitler as a leader ok, but not as a God.The leader must be replaceable.There has to be a non human focal point to gather everyone, that ensures synergy and cohesion. (for ex: the sun?)Less expansionist. Only the necessary.Eugenics. The race has to be perfected, not only whitened. We remove the unsuitable whites. When we expand and conquer a foreign territory we delete the men and only keep the top x% women.That would be a good starting base.
>>544503816you forget this oneAll Kikes Must Perish from the Earth
>>544522697>Why did God give them the Holy Land? Or is that yet another thing God got wrong around WWII?The United Nations gave jews the holy land, and they've been struggling to keep it ever since, even with trillions in handouts and the entire American military subsidizing their own. Israel won't exist by 2050. The jews stole the Holy Land and God is taking it back from them one pound of flesh at a time. You're just some sniveling kike, endlessly tossing out whataboutisms and hoping you'll eventually find something people can't answer. You'll never explain what you believe, just mock what others say and poison the well. If the jews were really "God's Chosen People," why would He promise them a land of milk and honey? They're over 80% lactose intolerant as a race, most of them are also allergic to honey. Only a racial Aryan would find a land flowing with honey and milk to be a paradise. You aren't God's chosen people, jewboy. You are of your true father, the devil. You live in the image of Cain.
>>544523048Only applies to Christians, not to non-Christians (anti-Christians) like yourself.All Christians are one body, one Church, under Jesus Christ (our Head, the High Priest)All anti-Christians like yourselves must perish.
>>544523354I thought it only applied to "Aryan Greeks and Aryan Judeans"? >>544522395
>>544523178What do you get out of a faith in a God who destroyed your Fuhrer and lets the Holy Land go to those he failed to defeat? Is there some loser clause in the Bible I've forgotten?
>>544523440Aryan Greeks and Aryan Judeans who are Christians. My apologies, I forgot anti-Christians lack basic logical reasoning.
>>544523499>Is there some loser clause in the Bible I've forgotten?Start at Deuteronomy 28:15 but I know you won't understand it because dogs of the Devil cannot comprehend the Holy Scriptures.
>>544523536Is there a source for the word Aryan, kind of like how Judaean is a source for "Jew"?
>>544523564So the Nazis were accursed because they didn't obey God?
>>544521278Then, by your own logic, it was not God that cursed the Nazis, but menStupid jew, pilpuled yourself out of your own argument
>>544503789They didn't gas any jews :(
>>544503789You just need to be slightly more tolerant of jews and make the lightning bolts more pointy
>>544521278>>544523670Yet all the Nazis were christian and look how that turned out. Defeat.
>>544523670What is your point?
>>544523682They were wayy too tolerant of jews you kike vermin.There were jews in the wehrmacht.Never again
>>544523737https://youtube.com/shorts/H5IBWP9t0lo?si=kAUZe3G3k0ah62cH
Thats why they lost.Being tolerant and accepting of jews.Being christcucks.Next time Zero Tolerance policy for any jews. Zero tolerance for Abrahamism.Pagan Only Odinism
>>544523716Hitler was right. God stands with the Truth, and the Truth always wins out in the end
>>544523816The "Truth" that Germans "Needed" "Lebensraum" in Russia turned out to disagree with God's will.
>>544523784>Next timeNext time Germany invades Russia? lol lmao even
>>544523852You jews, always do small minded. Short sighted. Can't see beyond the horizon. Dont you see that the sun is rising? Are you so blind?
>>544523908It takes a big brain to lose 2 world wars? But win "on the horizon" a century later? Being honest, I indeed cannot see it.
>>544523048>What is explicitly racist about Galatians 3:28?The part where God never considered non-Isrealites to be human in the Old Testament, and Christ clearly agrees since he called the Canaanite woman a dog. The letter to the Galatians is calling for an end to brother wars and racial unity between two different groups of white people. That's literally the entire reason why the Paul-bashers are so desperate to write him out of the bible. It's because Paul was explicitly racist, he was pushing National Socialist rhetoric 2,000 years before the NSDAP was ever founded. Here's a fun fact. The Old Testament described 'Zuzim' as dark animals that attack towns and carry of women to rape. They were described as beasts, and openly killed without repercussion in the Old Testament. It's an awfully weird animal, to attack towns and kidnap women to have sex with. I wonder what the Zuzim were. I bet you won't address that either, just like with every other whataboutism you've pulled out of your ass. >>544523499>WHAT DO YOU GET OUT OF SUPPORTING THE TRUTH, YOU DAMN RACIST!? AREN'T YOU SUPPOSED TO WORSHIP HITLER!?Look at you, jewboy. You really didn't expect to find real National Socialists in this thread, did you? The Holocaust didn't happen, but it should have and it will. The illegal apartheid state you stole won't live to see 2050, and it's doubtful you will either. >And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:>And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:>And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke
>>544523874Why do you think the Soviets won?They weren't Christcucks.Next time, no abrahamism or any jews whatsoever
>>544523943You still think this is about the war?
>>544505236They did that because Beria and Krushchev sucked jewish cock (despite knowing better after being warned by Stalin)
>>544523968>Why do you think the Soviets won?They 'won' a victory so amazing millions of them starved to death, their government collapsed, and they still haven't recovered over a century later. A few more victories like that, and the Russians won't exist at all. They have won themselves to death.
>>544523962>real National Socialists>illegal apartheid statewew ladYou realize you have no organizational capacity at all, even in free America, right? Because nothing you believe makes sense, and all Naziism ever was was a package for Hitler's ideas, and, Hitler's dead, so you have little grubs digging around in his corpse trying to make him a heckin' Christian saint, trying to prove God wrong in his judgments against the errant Nazi movement.
>>544524023>Hitler invading Russia for Lebensraum was actually secretly so he could die and inspire zoomer-esque low IQ 4channers16.5d chess
>>544524054Well, imagine if the German people abandoned chritsianity, it would be called invincibility.
>>544524162You still think this is about the war?
>>544524227You still think Hitler's gonna stick the landing somehow? I don't know a lot of magic tricks that involve getting your own people occupied by the countries you invaded.
jews are awesome
>>544524298You still think this is about Hitler?
>>544524107>i don't see your organisational capacity so it doesn't existThe jewish shadow state is proof that this argument is dumb as heck. Moles and double agents are waging an organised war against other moles and double agents right as we speak. The jewish failure in controlling their public perception is largely due to concerted efforts of nazism-aligned actors.Nazi-sympathetic revisionism has finally made its way into the mainstream with Mr. Carlson's imterview with Rees-Mogg.
>>544524370You have to be 18 to post here.
>Adapt to the modern battlefield.....and go camping. https://youtu.be/HJLHNfu7_uY?si=YQQEreAyTKmH_0mV
>>544524392>revisionismLosers can only try to negate, they can never positively say or do anything.
>>544524417>he still thinks this is about HitlerI know youre not stupid, you could see the truth if you wanted to. You just choose not to. Funny, how you all have never changed. You all never did like prophets, did you?
killing the jews obviously. and i dont mean the gutter jews, i mean when you have a rothschild in custody you dont fucking let the guy go, you make a public spectacle and hold babbys hand as you walk them through the history of jewish crimes against the world, the rothschilds role in the crimes, and then culminating it all by blood eagling him in the street.gutter jews are just npcs who tow the line, its the banker and rabbinical caste who needs to be purged. the normie jews would just assimilate and never bother anyone again, so long as the torah and all its derivations are rightfully held as the single worst human invention ever devised thats been plaguing the entire world ever since its conception
>>544503816or just skip the jewish nonsense altogether and skip straight to jesus getting arrested with a naked boy
>>544524759Other than a Christian Biblical movement how do you see the banker class possibly being ousted? Also, disliking the Torah is a skill issue.>>544524694A prophet is someone who is inspired by God, not some idiot who still believes in Hitler's right to Lebensraum under God even though God said no.
>>544503816like some mean words really aint shit when you have chads like Antiochus. if anything, people should be worshipping him.
>>544508689Scientists went to the Soviet Union to examine the skull. Once they found out it was a female skulle, the Societal quickly sent them on their way and denied the whole thing. Also, who did the DNA tests? The Hitlers identity is protected, do you think they would share their DNA? And if so.. how can we trust the veracity of the scientific claim in the first place? You're full of shit and a bad liar, and worse than that you're a jew. If you still have a foreskin that makes you gullible or a paid liar.
>>544503789>What would do different from the Nazis?- have actual holocaust - more PR in kiked nations explaining to average citizens where coming from- recruit specialized assassination teams to go after the most powerful jews causing the most problems worldwide
>>544524856yeah and the skill is brainwashing yourself into believing the "good guys" wrote it
>>544524856Was Saul not among the prophets?
>>544503789Not going to war for a start, just kill the jews in your country and then strengthen your defenses and pick allies that aren't subhuman commies.
>>544503873>People cannot always pinpoint what exactly is wrong with it, but deep down they feel it is foreign to their nature and reject it.All forms of collectivism are fundamentally incongruent with the individualistic Faustian spirit which animates occidental man
>>544525159Now that you have heard the warning, do you think God will not follow through?
>>544525341>Godyou mean the schizophrenic jew who thought he was living on a 6,000 year old flat earth, whose peak of genius in undertaking creation amounts to: "Siri, create the 6,000 year old flat earth"?I think it should die. It only obstructs people from actually asking spiritual questions and handicaps their spiritual development in lieu of jew-centric social engineering
>>544525341...we can say the same to you
>>544525655Do you think reality is not governed by an intelligence?
>>544525924What are you talking about?
>>544525986God gives numerous warnings to jews which are repeatedly ignored, leading to their destruction. Its the theme of the entire Bible
