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Is this why Serbs are all enthralled with Russia?
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>>544843344
After the Russian is done drinking it the Serb finds another use.
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>>544843344
Russia failed to help them when this happened. They supported NATO under Yeltsin. Retard
They love Russia because of WWI. Serbia lost 10% of her population to Austria and Germany, they were nearly wiped out.
If Russian Empire did not intervene, there would not only be no Serbia as country but also as people. And WWII was even worse.
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>>544843344
and who else is suppose to help them against muslims(Albanians and Bosniaks) and catholics(Croats)?
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Serbniggers got bailed out by Russia who went ahead and triggered every single alliance obligation in WW1 just to save them from being punished for harboring assassination squads that were killing Austrian royalty
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>>544843491
>And WWII was even worse.
Yes it was worse because serbniggers were chimping out and fucking with the German sphere of influence yet again
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>>544843344
it goes back at least to WWI
>>544843491
ackshully, Russia was strongly opposed to NATO intervention in Yugoslavia and when the bombings were about to start, Russian PM was on his way to Washington and turned his plane around in protest. Yeltsin resigned half a year later and rest is history.
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>>544843344
Russia armed Croatia in that war and gave no shit about serbs yet serbs are still worshipping them.
Cucks.
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>>544843344
>do nothing when Serbia gets bombed
>sell weapons to Croatia
Russia is based methinks
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>>544843491
>10%
They wish it was that low but if Serbia didn't started a war then there would have been no war
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>>544843596
The fact that Serbia accepted all Austrian demands but one which was allowing Austrian police to investigate the killing within Serbia too got denied tells us all we need to know.
>Serbs who investigated serbs found that serbs had nothing to do with it
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>>544843691
Kosovo happened 4 years after Croatia
though yes, Russia was selling anything it had left and right alienating even potential allies
note Serbia was in NATO partnership program from 2003 to 2008 since they were distrustful of Russia
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>>544843746
preparations for confrontation started at the end of the 19th century, UK started expanding its fleet as a response to Germany expanding its fleet
Entente formed in 1907 as a defensive alliance against Germany
>>544843889
>investigate
...and arrest, which no sovereign country would accept
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You retards should spend less time here and more time on wikipedia
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>>544843344
In any war theres a point where you need to stop before a third party intervenes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culminating_point
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>>544844278
flag checks out
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>>544844230
>no sovereign country would accept
You aren't a sovereign country when you have to get bailed out by the flood of zigger mongols
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>>544844230
Russia quite literally decided that their Serbian proxy was worth triggering a war spanning the entire continent
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>>544844508
nigger, they were fighting no matter if they had Russian support or not, they kept fighting even when the country was overrun and occupied and they kept fighting even after Russia bailed out a year before the war ended
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>>544844230
Interpol is a thing and nowadays extraditing criminals between nations is very common. At the end it was the Serbian government who funded and controlled the terrorist group and the British funded the serbs to do this attack in the first place. No government would ever openly say they're guilty of such an attack that's true hence why Austria was in the right to answer with war against the terrorist nation.
Every big power had their ambitions and their reasons but all had in common that they all wanted war. If not Serbia then some other bullshit would have started the great war sooner or later.
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>>544844608
And yet their railway network was still total backwards garbage hence why 150k Prussians won in east Prussia against 700k invading Russians.
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>>544844608
nah, Russia defending Serbia didn't trigger Triple Alliance defense pact
it was Germany that attacked Russia and France that triggered Entente defense pact drawing in UK as well
it was entirely German fault the war spiraled out to a world war, if they haven't nothing much would have changed, Serbia would get Bosnia and Russia would get Galicia, while Austria-Hungary would more or less remain intact
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>>544844899
Russia was mobilizing before Germany declared war. The point of bo return was already past and France was getting ready to double team Germany with Russia
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I don't worship Russia, I just make pro-Russian posts to piss of Poles and butthurt belters because it's hilarious.
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>>544844899
It was Russia who backed Serbia which was way out of their area of influence and it was Russia who mobalised their army first and you don't mobalise your army just for the lulz.
Russia started it all and got what they deserved at the end
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>>544844608
Because everyone wanted the war to happen.
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>>544844941
It's funny that they blame us for giving our longest and greatest ally a "blank cheque" for being in the right while Russia giving Serbia which was not even their official ally doing the same is somehow forgotten.
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>>544844788
>controlled the terrorist group
that's bs, the black hand operated in secret and was hunted down by Serbian authorities, their leader was trialed and shot in 1917 in Greece, and the hunt for remaining members continued all the way till ww2
you just cannot comprehend that people just didn't like you
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>>544845069
Nobody hates Germany for WW1 that much. And politics are just business. You lost at it hence the butthurt.
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>>544845069
Having your hire to the throne assassinated by a foreign terrorist group is basically a 9/11 on steroids. The only mistake Austria made was waiting so long to act since everyone began to see the crimes as less serious and worthy of military solutions
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>>544845137
Heir*
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>>544845137
Not the royalist nigger who wanted to keep his globohomo Slavic empire, how could we.
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Russians are first class citizens in Serbia, smrds cannot compete with Russian settlers that have taken over best areas of their capital, also doll butt
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>>544844947
>to piss of poles and butthurt belters
So why would you seek to make someone mad? That's because you don't like them.
Why don't you like them?
Because they don't like Russia.
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>>544844941
>>544844984
>Russia was mobilizing before Germany declared war
yes, against Austria-Hungary, not Germany
>>544845069
because Austria started an offensive war, Germany didn't have a valid reason to join, it was not Serbia who attacked Austria, nor was it Russia
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>>544845102
If this was true then the government wouldn't have protected them and would have helped Austria to find the guilty but they rather wanted war and kill 60% of all males in Serbia instead.
They totally acted like innocent people would do yeah sure man.
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>>544845282
They attacked when their government killed the heir of the empire so they started the fire.
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>>544845263
I don't like them because they are retarded annoying subhumans who hate Russia and think we all worship Russia and they swarm Serbian threads to post bullshit while the average Serb is a literal pan Slavist and loves Poles.
Stop trying to be a psychogolist. It's really simple. As a butthurt belter you are simply irrational.
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>>544845263
They're just butthurt about the yugotrash wars just like Russia is butthurt nonstop about NATO and muuh Anglo Saxons and muuh nazis....
>No it's you who's butthurt
Coping losers
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>>544845381
His logic would be like if America just didn't invade Afghanistan and let al quadea and Osama bin laden chill and continue to plan operations unimpeded.
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>>544845427
I framed it in a bad way. They can hate Russia, I don't give a shit. What is funny is that they think by association and hate us by extent.
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>>544845463
Austria gave them even reasonable demands to clear this problem in a peaceful manner while they had every right to genocide all serbs for it.
Back then wars were started for much much less than that.
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>>544843344
They surrendered despite not losing to NATO because Russia told them too.
>Serb army `unscathed by Nato' KLA `killed more Serbs than Nato' Nato did'
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/serb-army-unscathed-by-nato-kla-killed-more-serbs-than-nato-nato-did-1101448.html
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>>544845577
You stupid nigger Austrian empire turned Vienna into a Balkan outpost and here you are malding after a hundred years about how some royal nigger of a globohomo Balkania got shot.
You Germanics seem to just love other cultures. You cannot live with yourselves or what is it?
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>>544845577
Yeah. They also had a pact with Austria to warn them of any conspiracies. Yet they didn't, despite knowing about the assasination plot. Their statesmen even admitted this.
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>>544845599
>success of a war should be measured in the number of dead
I am sure we could have kept on under a blockade and bombs falling on all the crucial infrastructure 24/7.
You can camouflage tanks and personnel, the casaulties there are low but that doesn't matter in the sense of being able to lead the war long term.
And NATO would have eventually started a ground invasion.
So Serbs are not good when they predict a ground invasion and make a rational decision to negotiate and Serbs are also not good when they do what we did in WW1.
I am talking with a bunch of monkeys.
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>>544843344
they never bordered Russia, that's the number 1 reason both them and Bulgaria still like them.
hell, when we were still bordering the Crimean Khanate and Russia was some distant orthodox power fighting the Turks we probably liked them too.
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>>544845577
The craziest part of the entire shit show was when France didn't accept the German offer to remain neutral in the event of localized war in the Balkans between Germany and Russia which showed just how serious they were about the planned double sided attack they were planning with Russia all along
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>>544845700
The outcome decides the actual winner.
Serbia is landlocked and lost Kosovo forever, half of the balkans works as cheap labour in Austria/Germany and your girls fill our whore houses.
I wish you balkanmonkeys would all fuck off but it's not me who decides anything.
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Sebia commits genocide LIVE on television in EUROPE and is angry that they got a few bombs dropped on them.
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>>544845137
ah yes a multicultural empire that must keep its inbreed family safe and prosperous no matter what even if it means
>settling muslims on the Serbian border
>settling Slovaks on the Serbian border
>forcing Serbia to release Albania so Serbia wont have sea access
>forcing Serbia and Montenegro to keep Rascia in Ottoman hands in between them so Serbia and Montenegro couldn't unite and again so Serbia couldn't have sea access
>annexing Bosnia even though it was agreed that Bosnia was guaranteed a referendum
>on the other hand forcing Hungarian identity onto Slovaks
>pulling Ukrainian identity out of their ass onto Russians in Galicia so Russia wont have any claims
ww1 or not Austrians were asking for it
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>>544845700
The Yugoslav army was not defeated by NATO at all, and was basically unscaffed
>I am sure we could have kept on under a blockade and bombs falling on all the crucial infrastructure 24/7.
Kosovars suffered way more than you yet kept on fighting. Iranians suffered way more than you yet keep on fighting. You guys surrendered despite not having lost. The reason? Because Russia told you to following Milosevic having been indicted.

There was no unilateral NATO support for a ground invasion. The Europeans did not want to do it, only the Americans. And where would this ground invasion be launched from? Macedonia and Albania where there would be no infastructure to support it? Face it, you guys surrendered because you are not brave anymore like you were in world war 1.
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>>544845832
You don't wish the Balkanmonkeys to fuck off since you come into every thread about Balkanmonkeys.
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>>544845749
The videos of Serbian volunteers to Russia crying about discrimination from russians getting called filthy gypsies and such is hilarious.
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>>544845865
America stationed brigades in Hungary, Croatia, Romania and Bulgaria.
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>>544843344
why should albanian muslims live in kosovo then?
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>>544845824
Hence why we attacked France first before they would attack us and we went through belgium because it's a better way to France which bought England to the war too but I'm sure England would have declared war anyway since their plan was always blockading Germany with their navy and we building railways to the Ottoman empire getting resources from them directly fucked their entire plan up.
It was a shit show
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>>544845884
They were small brigades to support aviation, not an invasion force.
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>>544845985
It is their right by conquest. Vae Victis.
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>>544845997
I'll check it out. Modern Serbs are a disgrace though I will admit that.
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>>544846008
reconquista
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>>544846015
You were brave in the past. My theory is that the brave Serbs were so throughly culled during ww1 that an overweight of cowardly men were able to reproduce. Hence why you surrendered at would was a slight discomfort relative to the plight of the Kosovars.
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>>544845335
they didn't even have time to respond before Austrians attacked
>>544845381
that's bullshit, Germany, Italy and even Austria didn't see the assassination as some Serbian declaration of war otherwise they would have all declared war on Serbia
it could have been a local war between Serbia, Austria and Russia, but Germany chose to escalate
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>>544843648
Balkans wasn't German sphere of influence, maggot.
>>544843691
Not true, liar.
>>544843744
You wish.
>>544844984
>Russia started it all and got what they deserved at the end
And what you got at the end of WWI?>>544845427
>the average Serb is a literal pan Slavist and loves Poles.
No we aren't and no we don't.
t. average Serb.
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>>544846075
>Local
>And Russia
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>>544846034
We reconquered it, though. Moesia is ours and the Romanians homeland.
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>>544846093
Monarchs were all military illiterate, Serbia was a joke and not a serious military power, Serbia couldn't do anything against Germany and spend 3 years as hiding cowards cleaning the shoes and barracks of the french.
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>>544846071
I am not a geneticist, I have no clue. People peddle stupid theories. I am not sure what to think about that even if it was backed by some research. The truth is really that collectives have started degrading in the past few decades due to bad governance. I wouldn't say our troops in the 90s were not brave. Some "volunteer" faggots and hooligans certainly were trash though.
The irrational responses in the 90s come down to bad leadership.
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>>544846126
And now we will reconquer it from you. circle of life.
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>>544846250
Yeah Serbia couldn't do anything against a three prong attack from three different countries (two of them great powers) lol.
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>>544846071
nah, it was the commies that installed the Serb self hating mentality, it was done so Serbs wouldn't attempt to take over Yugoslavia and for non Serbs to be independent and equal(but not Serbs)
in the end it was Serbs that tried to preserve Yugoslavia while others were doing everything they could to dismantle it, except maybe Fikret Abdic
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>>544846093
>Balkans wasn't German sphere of influence, maggot.
Hitler should have sent every penal unit at his disposal into Serbia for months of 24/7 reprisal operations until the Serbian national character was comprehensively erased from regional political considerations
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Who do all these western tards think they get to tell us how to run out country? Who THE FUCK are you niggas? Sanction this, ally with those, make these an enemy, give this land, do this, do that
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>>544846422
I am sure the Germanoturkoaraboniggers will have a better shot. Third time is the charm.
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>>544846301
It did good against Austria, Serbia got the entire Austrian war plan from the Russian spy in the Austrian army and Austria was hilariously incompetent but expected from a multicultural double empire still sticking in the Napoleonic era.
They fought very good when Germans finally took total military control over them
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>>544846292
74% of Serbs surveyed would not want to reconquer Kosovo if it involved war. Who is we, exactly?
>>544846371
Reminds me of how people here blame everything bad on the ghost of Hoxha, with no self insight.

If Serbs truly were out for war they would have kept on fighting despite what the gov did. That is what the Kosovars did. When Rugova kept on making embarassing deals with Milosevic, they simply rejected it and fought on. There is a level of complicity in the general population.
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>>544846075
>local war between Serbia, Austria and Russia
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>>544846422
We showed the world what an actual 3 day special military operation looked like, monke should have taken notes from it.
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>>544843344
20th century was a century of humiliation for Serbs, i think we got it worse than any other European nation. So Russia being there to help during some crucial times built the cult. I'd say most people grow to be pro-russian here, i was very pro-russian while younger, but i think a huge percentage of us, maybe even more than 50-60% started changing their opinion about Russia after the Ukraine war and their staunch support of our extremely corrupt and totalitarian government that a huge majority of young Serbs hate.
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>>544846482
My post stands. What country could have defended in that position against attacks on three sides by several countries. None.
It's like if I asked you why didn't you win the battle of Berlin.
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>>544846120
>Austria attacks Serbia
personal endeavor, no defense clause triggered
>Russia attacks Austria in response
personal endeavor, no defense clause
>Germany attacks Russia, France, Belgium
personal endeavor, triggered Entente
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>>544846450
Maybe because of the fact that Serbia has less economic and foreign policy leverage than 90% of states in the USA. The fact that the EU gives you all your own voice at the big boy table is preposterous
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>>544846577
Western Europeans are currently in the "We shouldn't do anything to save our countries but we should do everything to help Ukraine" mode so when they don't see Serbs being hungry for Russian blood they get dissociated and angry.
In reality Serbs who are not 50+ are not blind Russophiles. But nobody hates them with intensity either.
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>>544843344
Nah, it's why they are not enthralled by NATO and EU.
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>>544846624
Serbroaches aren't in the EU
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>>544846610
Russia attacked Germany before Austria
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>>544843344
no, but it is a reason why every normal serb fucking hates nato and eu and wants them to just fuck off
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>>544846514
I get it that in eastern Europe people cope by blaming the commies, but here this was done besides being incompetent, and I'm not just blaming the commies, I'm blaming the Serbs too for eating it all up
like while the war was raging across Croatia and Bosnia, Serbs in Serbia were protesting and demanding to stop the support for all Serb militias outside of what remained of Yugoslavia
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>>544843491
>They love Russia because of WWI.
The war Serbia started?
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>>544846670
sure and Poles were killing Germans in Danzig
we non whites sure are thirsty for white blood, so unfair considering you just dindu nufin
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Are Serbian slav or muslim rape babies?
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>>544843344
That wiki page must be an error because as we all know NATO is a defensive alliance and it never bombs anyone.
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>>544846848
It was mostly mothers protesting but yes that's true. Remember though there were many volunteers from Serbia. Don't fall for division, though it's hard not to.
My family all volunteered to help in Bosnia and Croatia even though we have no relatives there.
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>>544846941
The war we ended
>>544847006
We are like 10cm taller than Turks on average.
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>>544847063
it was a humanitarian bombing
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>>544847063
NATO doesn't have bombers so it cannot bomb anyone.
Some individual countries bombed Serbia, and they all had their own choice to do so or not.
We're also part of NATO but we drank beers and sang songs with the Serbs while we watched the Muslim men get separated from the women and trucked off to get executed.
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>>544847006
Yes!
Serbia had the funny tradition that the serb man of the house would be forced to walk like a dog on all 4s while the Ottoman officer would rape the serb mother and daughters.
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>>544847221
>We're also part of NATO but we drank beers and sang songs with the Serbs while we watched the Muslim men get separated from the women and trucked off to get executed.
Srebrenica was a UN zone, captured by a former communist whos daughter commited suicide due to how ashamed she was of her father. The Dutch UN soldiers were simply cowardly and did not dear fire back. Danish soldiers in Tuzla prevented the same thing from happening there by just not being cowards.
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>>544847005
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>>544843746
>>544846941
Serbia was innocent. They did nothing wrong. The conspiracies that King Peter ordered the assassination and was secretly working with the black hand was absurd.
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>>544843648
A racial Slav cannot and should not be in a "German sphere of influence"
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>>544847315
>t. A country with 10 million actual Turks
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>>544847315
And yet the Serbs still beat the shit out of you in both world wars and now your country is a Mehmet country while Serbia is still Serbia
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>>544846576
Yugoslavia resisted for much longer, it is just that Karadordevic was a cuck, but Yugoslavs kept fighting in the partisan units
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>>544847544
the actual issue was Croats backstabbing us which basically immediately dissolved the standing army
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>>544847453
It doesn't matter who was right and who was wrong.
It only matter that one country starts a war (for whatever "rightious" reasons) and then cries when they find out.
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>>544847574
Lets not talk about the jews of Balkans, 109 border disputes but it is never their fault
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>>544847610
>It only matter that one country starts a war
Austria declared the war. Serbia wanted to avoid it.
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>>544847610
That's a POV situation more than any side is willing to admit.
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>>544847472
Microstates unfortunately don't have much say in regard to how two superpowers are to proceed in a desperate sprint to secure their blindspots or risk encirclement. If Serbia didn't exist over the course of a war, Europe would move on. Just like America would move on if Alabama was absorbed into Georgia for some reason. Sure it's a tough pill to swallow but not every nation is capable of shaping history for the entire world.
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>>544847497
They were occupied losers irrelevant to the actual war.
We didn't even bothered to do the occupation with Germans we used local allies for it instead giving them free reign to do what they want with serbroaches.
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>>544847453
They did not order it, but had knowledge of it and gave material support. This was admitted in the interbellum period by several Serbian statesmen. That of course violated the 1881 austro-serbian agreement.
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>>544847361
those troops were there if and only if Germany attacked or declared war, which it did
they could have remained at the border and wait for the situation to deescalate, but alas
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>>544847647
>Microstates unfortunately don't have much say in regard to how two superpowers are to proceed
We do because we had Russian Empire on our side. Get fucked
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>>544847653
Yugoslavia was definitely a pain point for Germans. Just the Slovenian VOS assasinated several high profile German military peoples
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>>544843344
No, it's because orthodoxy and historical alliance.

Russians betrayed the in that event.

There are a few good podcast about it, McGregor on Neutrality Studies (he actually had a command position there so it's not his usual rambling) and a few others, look up "Yugoslavia" + "Neutrality Studies" (or Glenn Diesen, he might have something too) + "McGregor".

There were a few other analysts and prominent diplomats talking about it, I think Blumenthal also had a lecture on it.

The western narrative must be defended, "we bombed them bcs they evil" but Albanians are the real niggers.

Not that the Serbian 10y long chimpout under Milošević didn't do its part but this is the one time they were in the right. Russians made a deal with Mutts.
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>>544847669
Those railways were installed for a reason as everyone soon found out
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>>544847665
>This was admitted in the interbellum period by several Serbian statesmen
Low ranking officials talk shit about their bosses all the time. If everything those officials say was always true, then Hitler had one testicle and wanted to make Germany Pagan because his own subordinates said so
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>>544847715
Russia didn't even exist back then. It was completely occupied by the United States. If not for FBS coup in 2000s, Russia today still would not exist as a sovereign country.
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>>544847785
Putin continued Yeltsin policy regarding Serbia.
>>544847647
You shaped this world into a negro feminist dystopia.
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>>544847715
>Reddit spacing
Damn, it happens automatically after I come back from there, I wasn't even aware.
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>>544847709
Germans lost a total of 25k killed Germans in the Yugoslavia theater while 1 million of our enemies died there in total.
Literally nothing burger for us that's a weekend on the eastern front.
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>>544847845
Yes I'm aware of the crimes my forefathers committed against Germania. I've learned to simply accept the consequences of those historical injustices
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>>544847880
You lost the best ones though. We targeted the higher ranking officials, not Germans as a whole
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>>544847845
>Putin continued Yeltsin policy regarding Serbia.
bruh what
>You shaped this world into a negro feminist dystopia.
bruh what. Serbia is mostly European, hardly any blacks there. And feminism started in the Russian Empire under Catherine
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We both experienced centuries of western betrayals and backstabbing while keeping barbarians at the gates while others grew fat and decadent on our account. It is why I am enjoying current state of the world so much, all the NATOfags who fought for Albanians back in 99 get to experience their beloved muzzies firsthand. In the end there's some justice in he world.
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>>544847880
You lost 100k soldiers alone lol.
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>>544847880
Yugoslavia is actually 35-105 000 Germans, Idk how historians can't narrow it further.
In addition, 100s of thousands domestic enemies were killed.
>Inb4 those aren't Germans
True, but they did a lot of killing, more than Germans.
You don't get to take the credit for their killing while claiming they weren't Nazis.
Also a lot of Germans got killed and expelled after the war, not saying it's a good thing (that's where you and I differ) but it was because of your chimpout so blame Hitler.
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>>544847665
nah, "liberation or death" formed because of Austro-Serbian agreement and operated in secrecy, black hand later joined them, but they still remained distant from the state
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>>544847946
Because the best ones were babysitting balkanmonkeys and not be on the actual war front fighting a war.
Sure thing
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>>544843596
>>544843746
/thread but you're almost certainly a diaspora tard seething
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>>544848065
>>544848063
It was 25k Germans, it doesn't matter how many of our puppets were killed since most of them were fellow balkanmonkeys
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>>544848153
Next time screencap which battle, retard
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>>544848167
>According to German military historian Rüdiger Overmans, German losses in the Balkans during WWII amounted to approximately 103,693 men, with a further 11,000 German soldiers dying in Yugoslav captivity after the war
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>>544843746
Also, funny how braindead average polster is and susceptible to meme propaganda. And how you keep posting this image.

There are virtually no Bulgarian subclades in Serbia, only vice versa - in fact, their entire Slavic admixture is from Serbs and Croats, they were literally a Turkic tribe, and even now they have more paleo-balkan than Slavic.
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>>544847880
there were half a million Germans in Yugoslavia before the war, now there are none, but sure pound your chest west of Oder
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>>544848065
All Germans in east Europe were expelled which was simply genocide but the 8-9m hole WWII blew in our nation was filled up with the expelled Germans so at the end we ended up with as many Germans as before the war as if nothing ever happened which saved our nation and we quickly became an economic world power once again.
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>>544848167
>It was 25k Germans,
No, retard, it was 35-105k.
>it doesn't matter how many of our puppets were killed
Again, imbecile, if it was a war between "balkanmonkeys" then you don't get to take the credit for the death toll.
This was all already explained to you, don't be retarded.
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>>544848205
The 1v1 war, retard. That's the 1v1 war, not just one battle. I'm not gonna claim we'd ever win against AH+Germany+Turkey+Bulgaria, but 1v1 it was a win
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>>544848253
>>544843746
Even funnier is how useless Bulgarians were in that war - their entire purpose was to circle the Serbs and force a retreat, but they failed to do that and Serbs retreated through Serbia, Montenegro and Albania.

Most of the deaths were due to starvation and having to walk through winter across literal mountains in Montenegro and Albania in freezing weather to make it to Greece. Almost none were combat related.
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>>544848279
>saved our nation
Coping is strong I see.
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>>544843344
If you know ball
A russian commander called serbian sniper that volunteered for russia
A monkey

most pol are newfags
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>coming up with another bold plan
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I love the balkanigger threads. It always devolves into a couple of faggots fighting for their lives in order to prove that their state is the only one in the region that is not retarded, genocidal and low iq like the rest. Of course, those with the most retarded examples, like Serbia, have the greatest amount of schizos fighting to prove something on an anonymous mongolian shit flinging forum, whose threads last anywhere from 10 minutes, up to a few hours and promptly disappear im some archive forever.
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>>544848153
Balkanmonkeys under Austrian leadership fought like retards there, and?
Germans did not fought there but when Germans took over military command of Austria then was the time Serbia was quickly put in their place and occupied till the end of the war.
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>>544848402
>just sit there and let people spew lies bro!
I am not autistic.
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>>544848402
>I love the balkanigger threads. It always devolves into a couple of faggots fighting for their lives in order to prove that their state is the only one in the region that is not retarded, genocidal and low iq like the rest. Of course, those with the most retarded examples, like Serbia, have the greatest amount of schizos fighting to prove something on an anonymous mongolian shit flinging forum, whose threads last anywhere from 10 minutes, up to a few hours and promptly disappear im some archive forever.
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>>544847221
You faggots love playing word games.
Thats like saying a football team never scores a goal only the individual who made it.
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>>544848402
Yea, it's definitely Serbs and not shameless diaspora seethnigs like this German flag, really Croat, or the Canadian flag, really Albanian, larping as a German (the Albanian at least doesn't larp as Canadian, but says he's there to conquer it) in every Balkan thread until he gives in and the process repeats in every thread.

Picrel
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>>544848357

gross veins
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>>544848215
That number includes our foreign idiots fighting for us
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>>544848279
>Commit genocides
>Get genocided in return
>Cry about it on 4chan
Your economy came back because of the Marshall plan. You're declining currently and getting Muzzified and you deserve it.
>>544848289
The fuck is "1v1 war", some videogame shit ?
>I'm not gonna claim we'd ever win against AH+Germany+Turkey+Bulgaria, but 1v1 it was a win
WW1 was not between AH and Serbia so you're cherrypicking
Why don't you just screencap the whole thing instead of being retarded
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>>544848433
Lol. Serbia was demographically 15 times smaller than AH. You fought alongside them, (Germany), ottomans and Bulgaria. It wasn't the combat that won, but the fact that Serbia had no options but to retreat due to risk of being encircled by 4 nations whose numbers were, combined, literally 60 times greater.

You failed and we retreated, regrouped in Greece, and with Greek and British help beat you lol
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>>544848099
Yes, hence why entire occupied Europe lost to backwards USSR with some small American weapons assistance
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>>544848362
Reminded me of this picrel. The Black Hand was just an extended arm of the same organization that spanned Italy for thousands of years, and organized MAFIA's in the US. Same group that killed Ferdinand, also whacked Kennedy. And yes, they are part of Freemasonry. The first and second Godfather movies are all about Freemasons/Black Hand and Jews fighting for power inside America. Also, the Irishman has subtle references to them. But they are directly mentioned in the Godfather movies.
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>>544848545
You're retarded. I pictured the first Serbian campaign which was AH vs Serbia isolated. The second Serbian campaign is AH, Germany, ottoman empire and Bulgaria vs Serbia. I posted the 1v1 war.
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>>544848526
That's not true.
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NAFO two tapped a train full of civilians and under pressure released sped up footage (of the first strike only) to make it seem like a mistake. It's a terrorist org larping as some humanitarian world police
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>>544848588
>I pictured the first Serbian campaign which was AH vs Serbia isolated.
So a few battles but not a war
Got it
So I was right and you are retarded
I knew it all along
Screencap it, are you afraid to ?
Did you make that pic yourself ?
LMAO
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>>544848402
dude, it's saturday, i'm off work, it's raining, i cannot send my kids to the playground and therefore cannot fuck my wife
I NEED TO VENT OUT THE STEAM
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>>544848661
That's not what a battle means. It was a war between AH and Serbia before others got involved, and AH got beaten by a significantly smaller enemy lol.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbian_campaign_(1914)
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>>544848153
Yes, the events of WW1 are more than enough reason for people like me to seethe indefinitely
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>>544848706
OK then.
You could just have posted it when I asked instead of sperging out, just saying
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>>544848434
>I am not autistic
Yes you are. Especially if you think arguing here will have a greater effect on anyone's perception on politics.
>>544848442
Crazy hamburger?
>>544848479
I see a lot more Serbs shamelessly supporting their own low iq lunatics, than croacks, slovenians, bossniggers, monteniggers, gayreeks, romanijeets, bulgarroaches, analbanians, etc.
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>>544848706
Even your link says Serbia had slightly more manpower. But Austrias actual force was in the east getting slapped by Russia
>Muuh 1vs1
Which it was clearly not and in that battle it was Serbia and montenigger vs Serbia alone which was unfair.
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>>544848873
Germans literally killed Slovenians for speaking Slovenian and then they kvetch when Americans do the same to them.
They cry out in pain as they strike you
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>>544848579
lmao what, black hand formed because Obrenovic dynasty were a bunch of authoritarian scum and it wasn't the first time an Obrenovic was wacked
also black hand is an idiom for murder, black among Slavs signifies death and hand means work or act, hence an act of death
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>>544848896
>Especially if you think arguing here will have a greater effect on anyone's perception on politics.
You are retarded. You can actually learn things on 4chan but I guess you prefer PTG and "I hate women so much bros" threads
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>>544848669
If you weren't a pussy, you'd teach your kids proper sex ed, then promptly proceed to lock yourself and your wife in the bedroom and do the deed. They're going to figure out you had to have sex with her in order for them to exist. Just do the thing and move on.
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>>544848916
>Which it was clearly not and in that battle it was Serbia and montenigger vs Serbia alone which was unfair.
Austria-Hungary is 2 countries retard
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>>544848927
I'm owed more reparations than the average nigger right now
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>>544848896
I see a lot more Mudslimes posting memes based on lies, quotes out of context, etc... to fool people and trick them into supporting them.

The quote is about lying to onself under occupation - lying that you're not afraid; the occupator lies, the occupied lies, and so on...

And all of you collectively supported lunatics who declared Pakistan as a state to aspire to, or who recruited Mujahideens from Arab countries to fight for them, who didn't respect the Geneva convention - both parties have to respect it for it to be legally valid

"There can be no peace or coexistence between the Islamic faith and non-Islamic social and political institutions...the state should be an expression of religion and should support its moral concepts."[14]


>Osama bin Laden served as a military adviser to the Bosnian president, Alija Izetbegović, in 1992-94

>>The Declaration designated Pakistan as a model country to be emulated by Muslim revolutionaries worldwide.[15] One of the passages that was in particular picked out by his opponents was, "There can be no peace or coexistence between the Islamic faith and non-Islamic social and political institutions...the state should be an expression of religion and should support its moral concepts."[14]

>Bosniak leader wrote a book "Islamic declaration", in which he advocated for ethnic cleansing of Christians (both Catholic and Orthodox) from Bosnia because "Christians cannot live alongside Muslims and claimed the only way for Muslims to have their own country is if they ethnically cleansed all the Christians". For this, he was jailed in Yugoslavia by Tito and considered a terrorist. This was before any of the wars.
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>>544848896
>shamelessly
you're the one posting fake Dobrica quotes
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>>544849066
>>Osama bin Laden served as a military adviser to the Bosnian president, Alija Izetbegović, in 1992-94
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>>>The Declaration designated Pakistan as a model country to be emulated by Muslim revolutionaries worldwide.[15] One of the passages that was in particular picked out by his opponents was, "There can be no peace or coexistence between the Islamic faith and non-Islamic social and political institutions...the state should be an expression of religion and should support its moral concepts."[14]
Osama was a glownigger though
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>>544843648
>fucking with the German sphere
Good. Fuck them.
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>>544848970
>You can actually learn things on 4chan
Yeah. "Things" that are deeply layered behind a veil of CIA/MOSSAD/JIDF and all sort of other agency propaganda. You're probably one of them smartasses shouting 'TKD!' Without realizing broader political, historical, economic, diplomatic and military goals of those you "oppose"
>you prefer PTG
Grim.
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>>544843648
German sphere? A region that had zero Germans and that was majority Serbian - Bosnia?
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>>544848896
>posting that image
Man you Turks are so sad. How many times do you need to be told that Cosic did not say that about Serbs and it was part of some drama.
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>>544849005
did you pick that wisdom from your 'odza
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>>544849195
Austrian to be exact, you're all non nations so it was either Austria or roaches. Just like today you would kill your mother to be allowed to clean toilets in Germany.
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>>544849226
In case you are ever curious about what Cosic said about you and Croats feel free to ask. Because it's not pretty.
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>>544849318
You know these people are all liberashkas? they are gay. You can have them lol
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>>544849353
Doesn't matter as long as your homelands get poopjeet replacements everything is good.
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>>544849325
Why don't you just say it instead of trying to be mysterious like some homosexual drama queen
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>>544849318
I have been in Germany and I was not impressed. The only white people I saw were yugos, it was the first time I felt extremely uncomfortable seeing actual Arabs around me, and genuinely just wanted to vomit. The bus station was worse than in my small town, the building where you're supposed to buy food was abandoned, full of graffiti and I didn't dare walk further because I felt like I'd be stabbed. It didn't help that it was raining. I'm sure there are nice places, and yes, Germany is a better state than Serbia, but so what? A nice place in Serbia is better than a bad place in Germany, and you'd probably kill your mother to clean toilets in Denmark.
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>>544849318
Ah so you mean Russian sphere that the Austrians encroached on by backstabing Russia for a second time since Crimean War?
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>>544849451
>the building where you're supposed to buy food was abandoned, full of graffiti and I didn't dare walk further because I felt like I'd be stabbed.

Also mold, damaged walls, the facades on the outside pure concrete, completely colorless.
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>>544849195
The demographics weren't as important as the existential risk of British influence putting roots down in the area which would immediately put German oil security fully exposed. If there is anything that was going to elicit a hard crackdown from Hitler it's most definitely going to be British collaboration being exposed. Just like with Poland
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>>544849414
But it doesn't. Not to the extent Germany is anyway. Our replacement comes 99% from Kosovo and Albania
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>>544843344
Plays into it, but you shouldn't expect too much of sensible thought from core-balkanese subhumans. It's all just vibe-politics manufactured partially by themselves, partially by foreign powers. There are african nations that are far more civilized than the serbs.
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>>544849226
when you dig into it it becomes even more funny
>drama trilogy written when Dobrica was a communist hardliner
>part of a dialog between chetnix(royalist) in an act of desperation(because of success of communists lol)
>nowhere in the book are Serbs mentioned nor Serbia even though the drama takes place in Serbia
VGH the Serbian soft power, Albanians just cannot resist and must read Serbian literature, no matter how dogshit it is
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>>544849664
Lol, no there aren't.
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>>544849300
No, I watched a viking movie once so now I larp as a chad authentic European.
>>544849226
>>544849325
>>544849109
>“It is regrettable that, among the Serbs, through six hundred years of subjugation under the Turks, certain familiar traits of slaves developed to an extraordinary degree.”
He is describing Serbian spirit during the 1940s. Is he not?
>“The occupier lies, the collaborators lie, and the freedom fighters lie, too.”
And herein lies the problem of the Serbian ideals:
>“A lie is a necessity: biological, psychological, national, political.”
Classic glownigger thought process.
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>>544849597
German oil security in majority Serb Bosnia... Interesting
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>>544849664
Abdul is mad
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>>544849451
>>>544849318 #
>I have been in Germany and I was not impressed
Jesus. Oh my, Allah. The irony. Holy shit!
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>>544843344
It goes back to at least the 1800s. There were a lot of wars where the russians either directly fought the ottomans or helped support uprisings against the ottomans in the balkans. Russia positioned itself as the defender of orthodox christians/slavs in the balkans, and so serbs see russia as their big brother. Russia stepping in to defend Serbia at the start of WW1 is just one such example of this.

>>544843344
It's kinda a two way thing. the NATO bombings of serbia were not sanctioned by the UN. NATO didn't even bother getting authorization in the UN because they knew Russia would veto it, so instead they just went ahead. In the context of Russia's geopolitics, this had a profound effect. NATO was always advertised as a defense pact, one set up the curtail the soviet union. Well, the soviet union fell, but NATO was still around and actually kept growing, and then in 1999 it demonstrated that it is NOT a defensive pact when it intervened in serbia. This triggered alarm bells in russia's brain, telling them that NATO could be an actual threat. So that's what has led us all down this road ever since.

Another thing that's tied serbia's and russia's geopolitics together is the kosovo issue. Kosovo declares independence unilaterally and the west backs this. This was a huge mistake because it also gives precedent to other minority populations unilaterally declaring independence too. abkhazia, south ossetia, crimea, donbas, all these separatists inherently gained legitimacy, even though the west didn't apply the same standards, merely because they decided to recognize kosovo
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>>544847006
>Are Serbian slav or muslim rape babies?
genetically, they are neither related to slavs proper, i.e. Poles/Ukrainians/Russians nor to Turks. They are they own variant of Europeans related to other people in their vicinity like Italians, Greeks, Austrians, Hungarians.
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>>544849770
Yes more than enough aircraft range to Ploiești oil fields. Stalin occupying bukovina was the deciding factor to green light Barbarossa
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>>544849759
Aj na spavanje, ba, bolan, napravio si pun krug

>“A lie is a necessity: biological, psychological, national, political.”

Except he talks about it in the context of fear and despair, in the context of occupation - deliberately mentions lying to oneself that he's not scared.

>Everything turns red from the Turkish flags: See the atmosphere at the Children's Festival in Zenica

>Children came from all across Bosnia and Herzegovina, in total 6000
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>>544849796
>Oh my Allah

Get a grip, moron. Is Germany one uniform place? I can tell you've never left your little town, but you'd come to the same conclusion - German cities which are accessible are in really bad shapes, they have literal Arabs and even Africans. I saw an African guy sell me food at the bus station. Everything was colorless, collapsing and I barely saw any Germans, the only whites I did see spoke Yugoslav in groups. The shops were all abandoned. Germany is not some uniform place, nor are Germans. There are nicer neighborhoods in Serbia, that are nicer to live in, and there are also worse neighborhoods in Germany, that are worse to live in. I'd rather choose a nice neighborhood in Serbia than a bad neighborhood in Germany
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>>544849664
Serbs take pride in primitivism, there are songs about onions and paprika and how "peasant shoe will stomp on Europe" and "shiny weapon does not beat but a hear in a hero"
and you know what, I'm live in a village and I like it, it's better than being some faggot city slicker who huffs asphalt evaporations
you aryans can go to hell we Slavs will replace you
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>>544843344
Zog showed their colors back then they don't care about ethnic euro whites. Killing thousands of civilians to punish one man sound familiar? Its what the jews do everywhere from south america to middle east etc. They starting doing the same exact fucking thing they always do in donbass paid ukky or merc provocators kill civilians eventually leading to greater conflict. Its also what they did in 90s with the CIA yids hiring muzzies to get them to chop serb heads and throw them in ditches.

The only reason NATO exists because woke liberal retards are a HUGE thing in Europe and places like Canada who cannot connect the dots. Yids are have always been the recurring problem not russians.
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>>544848669
Hopefully you have like 10 kids minimum to counter filthy Mudslime vermin
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>>544850142
> songs about onions and paprika
based
> shiny weapon does not beat but a hear in a hero
my words, exactly
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>>544850224
>>544848669
Once students win, we need to send financial incentive to Bosnian Serbs to have kids. Something like free retirement if a family makes 10 kids, partial retirement for 5 kids.
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>>544849451
I'm from the north and Schleswig Holstein and north Schleswig is literally the same. Living costs are lower here while they have higher wages so it evens out at the end. And if you walk in some Yugo/arape/roach ghetto don't he surprised if you will find their cultures and they influence their surroundings too.
Everything is getting worse here so it's crazy that shithole Europe still all want to come here so imagine how bad it is there...
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>>544850224
things seem to have reversed, Serbs here tend to have more kids while muslims have less and migrate more, same with Croats
like you can drive trough the cantons and see empty houses with grass up to the knee
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>>544850476
Germany has a better average and a higher higher upper standard, however I can assure you my city is better than at least half of Germany. My neighborhood is probably better than the neighborhood of 80% of germans. Why would I care about pointless comparisons that don't go into details?

Don't blame yugos for that. Slovenia, Vojvodina and Croatia don't look like that. As I said, it's your country and your fault.
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>>544850609
Do you have more than 2?
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>>544850188
pic rel is the guy that commanded the bombing
and yes, he is
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>>544847756
>nikola pasic
>low ranking
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>>544850747
>hates ethnically pure states
>helps albanians establish an ethnically pure state
?????
if it wasnt for frenchfags and other euros north of the Iber would too have been Albanian majority.
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>>544850720
3, boy, twin boy and girl, i'm going for a fourth but i have to wait till january so all kids are born around september, so they can celebrate their birthdays at the same time, cannot be throwing parties all the time lol
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>>544850142
>you aryans can go to hell we Slavs will replace you
???
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>>544850885
Did you Albanian monkeys get internet recently like India, or what is the reason behind your sudden increase on social media?
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>>544850885
he's jewish so he super hates white people especially
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>>544850692
Most of the Balkans is commie garbage with some leftover Austrian build historic areas and of course all your gypsy areas.
If it was so good half of the Balkans wouldn't be in Austria and germany
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>>544850930
Nice, just keep going forever, they'll send you so much money when they're an adult + pension
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>>544850961
Serbs are not seen as white people by the Jews. The Jews see Italians as more white than they see Serbs or Albanians for that matter as white. This has to do with the fact that American Jews are Ellis islanders, hence why they hate Catholics so much as compared to Orthodox Christians and Protestants.
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>>544850965
This city was never under Austrian occupation.

>>544850965
>Most of the Balkans is commie garbage
Of course, hence

>>544850692
>Germany has a better average and a higher higher upper standard, however I can assure you my city is better than at least half of Germany. My neighborhood is probably better than the neighborhood of 80% of germans

Do you live better than me? Is your neighborhood nicer? I highly doubt that. Why care about pointless comparisons without details.

And only 10% of Serbs live outside of Serbia, compared to 5% of germans. See >>544848479
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>>544850965
>commie garbage
is only garbage if you put gorillion gray filters over it. Otherwise it looks clean and orderly.
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>>544849935
>See the atmosphere of the Serbian Prime Minister singing in Turkish to Erdogan
https://youtu.be/WP-Nt6H7G84?si=uUx6wksPCIWdZOr0
Mhmm, yes. I see...
You're the epitomy of the >>544848402 post.
Anyone that reads through this thread, that isn't a serb, can acknowledge the fact that you niggers pounce on these threads like rabid dogs to defend your honor or whatever.
>I see a lot more Serbs shamelessly supporting their own low iq lunatics, than croacks, slovenians, bossniggers, monteniggers, gayreeks, romanijeets, bulgarroaches, analbanians, etc.
Don't take this as a slight against you. I hate every single "nationality" in this region in equal measure.
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>>544850945
you heard me, we will cover europe with forests and swamps, every kebab will be replaced with a pljeskavica, every sour kraut will be replaced with winter salad and ajvar, there will be plumbs everywhere even under your eye sockets
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>>544848928
>duuuh, these two organizations with literally same names, that specialize in assassinations, blackmail, and have deep connections with underground crime organizations, and share a state border are definitely not connected in any way.
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>>544851093
Looks like some Russian gulag
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>>544851236
Yes, a gulag with no fences, guards or work areas
So, not a gulag
HOW are Germans this stupid?
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>>544851144
As I said, you made full circle. You're everything you supposedly hate, you entered the thread with a lie essentially due to posting that meme quote.

>Corrupt president of a country everyone hates doing a friendly gesture for diplomatic reasons

Vs

>Entire country celebrates Turkish day, called themselves Turks for centuries and forces its children to celebrate Turkey
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>>544848075
Not sure what you are denying. I said that the state knew about it, which was in violation of the austro-serbian treat. They remained distinct but the state knew about them and gave material support. All of this was admitted after the war by prominent statesmen.
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>>544843491
Ivaniggers shouldnt have killed the archduke then. At least the Romanovs got what they deserved --> kike humiliation.
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>>544850070
>I'd rather choose a nice neighborhood in Serbia than a bad neighborhood in Germany
The fuck kind of wisdom is this?
>I barely saw any Germans
Could it be the lingering incel/foid problem that is causing this in the west? Or could it be that Germans are naturally more secluded and isolationist than the loudmouthed turbofolk balkaneer?
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>>544851344
You seem very loudmouthed, isn't that a stereotype for the Bosnian Mudslime? It certainly isn't for Vojvodinians. It's not like what I said isn't backed by statistics, either. There are cities in Germany that have more Turks than Germans.

It's a sound argument, would you live in a bad neighborhood in Germany or a good neighborhood in your own country - I gave you my answer.
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>>544851204
>you heard me, we will cover europe with forests and swamps, every kebab will be replaced with a pljeskavica, every sour kraut will be replaced with winter salad and ajvar, there will be plumbs everywhere even under your eye sockets
Kek
Say that to the kebab shop owners in Germany. They'll laugh at you. We'll all be Indian/Paki/Turk and a little bit of Arab in a few decades. You'll walk outside, see a blonde haired, blue eyed girl with no cosmetic surgeries on her face that make her look like a sheboon and you'll wonder if you're in a dream.
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>>544849451
Let him cope, his sister fucks Arabs while his mother cheats on his father with some Slav, it's kind of the worst time in history to be a Germ
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>>544851450
>We'll all be Indian/Paki/Turk and a little bit of Arab in a few decades
Not us, we are rioting to make it stop as we saw what happened to Croatia.
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>>544851423
Why do you lie, monkey? The truth is one tab away.
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>>544851510
It's too Sotadicpilled
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>>544850476
>Everything is getting worse here so it's crazy that shithole Europe still all want to come here so imagine how bad it is there...
2x more Croats returned from Germany than went to it, similar probably goes for other EE nations, enjoy the Middle Easterners and Africans though, they're still coming in droves, but hey, at least they're not Slavic kek
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>>544849451
low t sissy timmy scared of arabs
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>>544843344
No, some serbs like Russia because Emperor Romanov helped us in WW1.
Most serbs nowadays realize it was Romanov alone that did that and not the people since they fucking killed him afterwards.
Some also support Russia cause its the biggest slavic nation and its an enemy of GAYTO.
However in general the myth is broken by Russia repeatedly fucking us in modern times and while most of us will cheer at Russia fucking GAYTO, it doesnt mean we love them its just a spite towards GAYTO faggots.
We'd cheer if China fucked you all as well.
So the "serbs are enthralles by russia" is just a meme.
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>>544851754
>No, some serbs like Russia because Emperor Romanov helped us in WW1.
>Most serbs nowadays realize it was Romanov alone that did that and not the people since they fucking killed him afterwards.
The people fucking died for you, faggot. It is easy for Romanov to order around but Russians actually died for you, and you are this ungrateful? and What happened in WWII? Russia saved your ass again.
Dumb fucking student nigger.
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>>544851856
It's not like WW1 was some mission to save Serbia and nothing else - there was a large pan-slavic movement within AH, and slovakia, Czechia, Croatia, Slovenia were all participating in it from within. Russia saw that as an opportunity to expand at AH's expense, neutralize Germans and used it. Let's not make any mistakes here.
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>>544851856
> and What happened in WWII? Russia saved your ass again.
>The situation was so bad that Tito requested a personal audience with Stalin[2][unreliable source?] through Đilas, asking him to stop the wave of rapes of Yugoslav women. Stalin, the head of the Kremlin at the time, told him: "Young guys are young guys, they've been through the war and they need a little rest." Jovanka Broz testifies to this with a testimony written down by Senad Pećanin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_liberation_of_Serbia
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Ziveo predsednik Vucic i Srpsko-Rusko bratstvo
Ustase studenti - piculici sutra ste gotovi
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>>544851276
So the author does not describe the Serbian spirit in his book?
>His focus heavily shifted toward analyzing Serbian suffering, historical grievances, and what he perceived as the vulnerabilities of the Serb ethnic identity within the wider Balkan context.
Ah, that is why this quote comes from the same novel:
>“It is regrettable that, among the Serbs, through six hundred years of subjugation under the Turks, certain familiar traits of slaves developed to an extraordinary degree.”
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>>544851937
Slovenia and Croatia couldn't win the war against Austria and Germany. Carantania got btfoed by Germans once and it was much stronger than the weakened and oppressed Slovenian-Croatian minority in AH
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>>544851856
They died reluctantly, wasnt cause they wanted.
>What happened in WWII? Russia saved your ass again.
No they didnt, they fucking raped us with communism and supported fucking tito the austrohungarian faggot instead of our King.
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>>544851945
So, the same thing we did to you in the Kosovo war before Gayto?

"Then police officers took me to a toilet and did the worst to me," Shaban says with a trembling voice. "The worst" — that's how he refers to the rape. He doesn't want to go into detail.
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>>544851937
/thread
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>>544851515
Good luck. But protesting and rioting can only get you so far. When concrete actions get taken against those that betray their own nations from their positions of power, then I'll believe it.
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>>544851971
OVO
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>>544851945
Wow actually based albanian, never thought id see it.
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>>544852047
>I will never forgive Russia for making Yugoslavia the richest nation in the Eastern Block! We should have kept the king who ran away from battle as soon as he could
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>>544852013
Bosnia was under turkey for about as long as Serbia, and it wasn't 600 but 400, while Vojvodina was under ottomans for only 90 years, some parts never occupied.

Talking about slavery, your entire identity is and will be tied to that.

Again, are you just projecting?
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>>544852058
>we had gay sex with albanian thugs
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>>544852133
Vojvodina was the richest province in eastern Europe besides Czechia and Hungary before Yugoslavia and the theft of Serbian industry

>The number of factories moved from Serbia to western Yugoslav republics is between 70 and 76, according to texts published in contemporary media.[3] The destination of moved Serbian industry were primarily the republics of Croatia and Slovenia, followed by Bosnia and Herzegovina and Montenegro, while some industry ended up in Albania.[4]

>The moved industry included aircraft production and heavy vehicle production.

>Since many new destinations for the Serbian industry were much closer to Soviet-controlled territories, i.e. Maribor in Slovenia or Varaždin in Croatia, than their original locations in Serbia, many authors concluded that the real reason for moving Serbian industries out of Serbia was not fear of Soviet invasion but communist intention to punish Serbian nationalists

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relocation_of_Serbian_industry_during_the_Informbiro_period
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>>544852058
Yeah and we hate you, meanwhile you guys love Russia. How many of you guys would we have to kill before you start loving us as you are natural masochists.
>>544852075
If Rama doesn't step down the entire country will probably go to anarchy like in 1997.
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>>544852133
>who ran away from battle.
He was like 17 you abysmal fucking communist shitstain.
Anyway go fuck yourself and stop speaking about MY country, you dont live here I do.
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>>544852190
>>544852058
>>544851945
20000 Albanian women actually

Estimates for the number of people raped during the 1998–1999 Kosovo War generally center around 20,000 victims, though exact figures remain unverified due to social stigma and underreporting.
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>>544852194
>one province where rich people lived was richer, therefore the whole country was rich
>Since many new destinations for the Serbian industry were much closer to Soviet-controlled territories, i.e. Maribor in Slovenia
Slovenia was already the most industrialized republic, it made sense to move it here since we had the most expertise and were the most loyal people to the communist party
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>>544851937
>Let's not make any mistakes here.
The movement was organized and backed by Freemasons. Picrel is an influential member of this "pan-Slavic" movement that wrote and held an extensive amount of Freemasonic literature. You can find him in pictures standing next to a lot of other influential figures. One of them being Gavrilo Princip. Also, it is no great secret that Austria Hungary had an open rivalry against Freemasons. Them being the cause of the French revolutions and all that.
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>>544852229
>If Rama doesn't step down the entire country will probably go to anarchy like in 1997.
Blood feuds are so based
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>>544852260
It didn't make sense, vojvodina was also an already industrialized province, it was, again, more economically developed than Slovenia
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>>544852250
ZOG numbers made to justify the bombing. We raped more Serbs during Titos time and chased out hundreds of thousands of Kosovo Serbs with our bro Tito.
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>>544852107
Cuti ustaso, kad zavrsimo sa kosovom, bosnom i crnom gorom vi ste sledeci. Nema nata sledeci put. Bleiburg 2.0 sledi
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>>544852301
>Wewuzzing again
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>>544848253
>>544848337
absolutely delicious cope, made my day
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>>>/wsg/6258015
>>>/wsg/6258015
>>>/wsg/6258015

FUCK SERBS
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>>544852229
I dont believe the rape accusations on kosovo are even true honestly and even if it was it was done by criminal retards like arkan who even we dont like, not our actual army.
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>>544852240
Yugoslavia was OUR country, moron. And wanting a 17 year old ruler makes you a shitstain
There is nothing stopping you from having a retarded monarch now, but you want a 17 year old to rule Slovenia and Croatia too, which: No. And thank God that Russia ensured Slavic prosperity in the Southern Europe
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>>544852303
Ja sam Srbenda iz Krajine debilu smrdljivi studentski
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>>544852295
Lol
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>>544852371
No, Yugoslavia was OUR country as in SERBIAN not yours nigger, we let you dwell inside it after pushing your shit in WW1, remember that always.
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>>544852145
The Bosnian conquest took them almost 100 years. The major reason Bosnia fell at all was due to the Serbian assistance to the Ottomans against the Crusaders. Plus, the "Krstjani" religious sect of Christianity was deeply persecuted after the Bosnian Kings were granted their crown by the Pope. It did not take much coercion by the Turks to convince them to switch sides and undermine the efforts of the state.
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>>544852411
? When did I say it's the case in 2021? We were bombed for $40-100 billion 1991 USD or $100-200 billion 2026 USD, had our industry stolen by you during Tito, and more >>544852194
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>>544852366
Gay rape was done by trve Serbian patriots however
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>>544852346
Brave Albanian commanders fighting in the frontlines and dying which rewards them with eternal paradise. As opposed to Serb commanders embezzling funds and then fleeing to Russia. Mirjana Markovic looted your country, then fled to Russia where she died in luxury.
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>>544852411
>>544852452
Yugoslavia was officially called "Kingdom of Serbs Croats and Slavs"
It was NOT Serbia
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>>544844230
>sovereign country
not a sovereign country.
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>>544852393
Ti si kurac bre, jebala te vastaska tvorevina i ta zastavica, i jebo te picula u usta kurvatska.
Dogodine u kninu
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>>544852477
Here is the older one >>544852502
Exact same map except Croatia got greener. Croatia! Not Slovenia. Slovenia was better even then.
Also like I said, one area for rich people. What about the average Serb? he lived like shit, unlike the average Slovenian. Average is what matters, for fucks sake, otherwise even Uganda is a utopia
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>>544851225
except black hand in serbia specialized in assassination for the sake of serb nationalism, and didn't partake in any kind of crime for the sake of profit
like they were well payed officers that bought their equipment with their own paychecks
and i doubt they were in cahoots with the catholics they were plotting against
>>544851329
they had their own publications, protests and what not, serbia knew about them as much as austria did
and they didn't support them, there were statesmen that agreed with them, but that's it
even the claim that black hand supplied and trained young bosnia is dubious and hearsay
also you keep mentioning a statesmen, which one?
>>544851450
you still think europe will see muslims as human beings?
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>>544852470
Lmao, why are you lying and posting memes that distort the truth?

Bosnian Muslims fought significantly more for the ottomans, along with Albanians, they were literally the enforcers of ottoman rule - they just didn't have a state. Serbia fought a total of 3 battles on the side of the ottomans as legal vassals for about 40 years when the Serbian empire fell.

Serbia has the largest list of conflicts against the Ottomans in the world, while other Balkan countries like Bulgaria, Greece and Albania have less overall than Serbia has in one decade.

Serbs were also bordermen and military guard in the Austria-hungarian empire, especially in Vojvodina (hence battleland) and Croatia (hence srpska krajina), where they were given permission to settle near the borders after Serbia and Bosnia fell, in exchange for military protection. This means that even in Austria Hungary and Croatia, a significant portion of the soldiers were Serbs, fighting for their flags, not Croats.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Serbian%E2%80%93Ottoman_conflicts
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>>544852502
A meme name so you niggers wouldnt chimp out, the goal of Yugoslavia was to have every teritorry where SERBS live inside one country.
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>>544845824
>be France
>get rekt by Germany in 1870
>find an ally to keep germs in check
>oy vey fronce plz abandon ally we plan to attack making you the pariah state and easy target next we totally not attack you next!
>gewalt! fronce refuse they want 2 front war! seems we have to use our peaceful plan of 2 front war we been planning for 10 years! Us poor peace loving germans!
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>>544852366
If you look at the names of people who were charged with massacres of Albanians during the Kosovo war on a lower level, (soldiers and police officers) like half of them were just traitor Albanians. A lot of opertunistic Albanians thought the Serbs would win and joined them. Especially people from small families who were usually hummiliated in blood feuds due to lacking numbers.

I think the same would be true for rapes. Why do you think there are so many Albanians who live in Serbian urban areas that arrived following the war? It is because they worked for you guys.
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>>544852583
Janez picko, sto ste izlazili iz jugoslavije ako ti je tako draga. I pucali na jna da bi danas duvao eu pederima
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>>544852607
>A meme name so you niggers wouldnt chimp out
That just proves that Serbian government was subversive and anti-pan-Slavic, which is why Russia is the way to go to ensure Slavic prosperity.
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>>544852411
>Hercegovina green
A small amount of Croats within the blue circle control the majority of industry/finance within the red circle. Soon, they'll begin to dictate their political matters.
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>>544852470
>>544852602
Now look at one single century of Serbia

Early encounters
Kingdom of Serbia
Battle of Gallipoli (1312)
Byzantine civil war of 1341–1347
Battle of Stephaniana (1344)
Serbian Empire
Byzantine civil war of 1352–1357
Battle of Demotika (1352)
Battle of Serres (1357)
Fall of the Serbian Empire
Battle of Sırpsındığı (1364)
Battle of Samokov (1371)
Battle of Maritsa (1371)
Battle of Dubravnica (1381)
Battle of Pločnik (1386)
Battle of Kosovo (1389)
Serbian Despotate
Dynastic conflicts in Serbia [sr] (1402–1412)
Battle of Tripolje (1402)
Siege of Novo Brdo (1412)
War of the South Danube (1420–1432)
Ottoman invasion of Serbia (1425)
Ottoman invasion of Serbia (1427)
Siege of Novo Brdo (1427)
Hungarian–Ottoman War (1437–1442)
Siege of Smederevo (1437)
Siege of Smederevo (1439)
Siege of Belgrade (1440)
Siege of Novo Brdo (1440–1441)
Crusade of Varna
Long campaign [sr]
Battle of Nish (1443)
Battle of Zlatitsa (1443)
Battle of Kunovica (1444)
Mehmed II's Serbian campaigns
Battle of Ostrvica (1454)
Siege of Smederevo [sr] (1454)
Battle of Leskovac (1454)
Battle of Kruševac (1454)
Serbian–Hungarian raid on Ottoman territory (1454)
Battle of Tripolje (1454)
Siege of Novo Brdo (1455)
Siege of Smederevo [sr] (1456)
Siege of Belgrade (1456)
Siege of Smederevo (1458)
Siege of Smederevo (1459)[3]
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>>544852541
Dijasporo mutava, umrijet ces u toj jebenoj americi koju prezires a u drzavu iz koje si pobjegao neces nikad svojevoljno krociti vise koliko je volis, smrt dijasporama gdje god da bili i od kud god da dosli
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>>544852663
But rape did happen. There was an uptick in mothers killing their newborns in 1999-2000 in Kosovo for this reason.
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>>544852677
Because they wanted to turn it into a greater Serbia, and communism has degenerated into theft of public properties for private gain by powerful party members. But the former was a greater issue because politicians steal today too
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>>544852663
Damn didnt even know that, that's fucked up.
>>544852681
You literally lived in the GOYMAN EMPIRE your entire history dickwad, then you cry about us wanting to be free? Lmfao
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>>544852690
>Soon, they'll begin to dictate their political matters.
>soon
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>544852712
>But rape did happen
What about gay rape
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>>544852730
Everything good that came from Yugoslavia for Slovenia was practically made by Slovenians. The ideology, the industry, etc. We were dragged down by other republics, which we were okay with, as long as they were nice to us.
I am proud of the achievements of Slovenian central planners in SFRY, not the SFRY itself. I am for Russia much more than I am for the southern Slavs, because Russia is the originator of Slavic race and culture to begin with.
I see Russia as the blade and handle of the sword, while Slovenia is the tip of the sword
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>>544852470
>>544852602
>>544852695
>>544852470
>When looking at the overall balance of centuries spent under Ottoman rule, Albanians fought the most for the empire by providing thousands of elite troops and dozens of high-ranking leaders across the globe, while Serbs fought the most against it by launching continuous, systemic rebellions and wars of independence that ultimately helped dismantle Ottoman rule in the Balkans. Conversely, Serbs fought the least for the empire after the 16th century as their role shifted almost entirely to anti-Ottoman resistance, while Bosnian Muslims fought the least against it, directing their weapons toward Istanbul only in specific instances to defend their regional autonomy or when they felt abandoned by central imperial reforms.
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>>544852806
That happened as they admitted it live on TV 4k. We mock Kosovars for it online.
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>>544852743
Not entire history, Germans invaded Carantania and enslaved us.
>then you cry about us wanting to be free?
You yourself said that Yugoslavia (including Slovenia) was just Serbia to you.
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>>544852287
>free masons supported liberation of Slavs
so they are the good guys? is this what you're trying to say?
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>>544851275
>HOW are Germans this stupid?
its called irrational butthurt from being raped
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>>544852701
Шaљe ce нoвaц кyћи, a тaмo мe чeкaјy кyћa и живoт. Aли кaкo би ти тo мoгao дa paзyмeш, ycтaшo? Зa cвe злo, вpaтићeмo вaм cтocтpyкo.
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>>544852855
This is true. A lot of my ancestors fought as mercenaries for the Ottomans. But mostly in Egypt and Syria from the information I have collected.
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>>544852602
Before I respond to this reddit of a post. Just think of one thing. A small detail. Look at the flag and name of Serbia in my pic. Then look at the name and flag of Bosnia. You are posting pics of widely different time periods. Before the Balkan usurpations and wars. Before Serbia revolted, it was the Bosnians within Hercegovina that resisted the Turks and had their teeth broken by the Ottoman Main Army.
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>>544852901
Brother you literally fought against in WW1 as good austrian soldiers lol.... If any other nation won they'd probably fucking banish you all but we let you stay inside the teritorries we won, I honestly dont know wtf you expect when losing?
Like you want to fight against us and then be like "muh slavic unity" when losing? Fuck you.
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>>544852366
dude, haven't you seen the Hague tribunal, we literally operated death camps, and worse of all rape camps, where chetnik soldiers raped muslim women so they would give birth to serb children
>inb4 so where are all those kids
who cares, throw us into jail
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>>544853052
We fought against Italians who were just as oppressive as Germans, but poorer.
People fighting on the eastern front mass defected to Russia
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>>544853002
Serbs who supposedly were the majority in Kosovo were absent here.
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>>544853091
>chetnik.
Do not call communist larping nationalists as chetniks anon, chetniks were the Kings royal guard and almost all of them were either killed by reds or fled to the US.
The "chetniks" after commieslavia are communist shitstains larping as nationalists and they should be ridiculed and shunned as the lying red faggots they are.
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>>544852470
was converting to islam a form of resistance towards ottomans?
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>>544853002
Monkey, the only 3 wars Serbia fought for the ottomans is after the Serbian empire fell as legal vassals - that's a legal obligation in medieval law that the lords had to fulfill.

Bosnia fought alongside it for centuries, being the main enforcers of ottoman rule along with Albanians, all seen in >>544852855
>>544852695
>>544852602

You didn't respond to anything, just deflect.
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>>544852985
Jos 2 tjedna dijaspora pederu
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>>544853200
yes, you pay less taxes hence do not support the Ottoman state.
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>>544853107
Dunno man, I am disapointed in all of you.
Our King made the mistake of trusting all of you and it cost him dearly, I'll be fair and say slovenians were generally atleast civil and normal as opossed to croatians but you both just waited for the chance to fuck Yugoslavia up and that's sad.
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Zajebajem se, srbi su prosjecno debilcine, zivio sam medju njima. Kad krenu opet nadam se samo da proliju krvi izmedju sebe i siptara i koga vec u grabezu za vekovna ognjista, i da ni jedan hrvat ne izgubi glavu u vjecnom ludilu. Raspala srbija je garant mira na balkanu, a srpska izdaja, ljigavost i bodez u ledja pocinje od martologa sluga turaka, do cigana sta su upucali eugena kvaternika pa kasnije prebjegli u bosnu i srbiju.
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>>544853131
>Muh u were absent even though you have more battles against the ottomans in one decade than we do in 6 centuries of ottoman rule

Idk why Muslims try so hard to invert the truth through memes and lies, you were the key enforcers of ottoman rule and were happy calling yourself Turks until the 20th century, when Serbs, Greeks and Bulgarians kicked them out in the first Balkan war.

>When comparing who fought more for (rather than against) the Ottoman Empire, Albanians fought for the Ottomans significantly more in terms of overall duration, numbers, and high-level strategic impact
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>>544843746
Why is it that we never hear about Brits, French, and Germans doing this?
Why are eastern euros like this
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>>544853317
Veća šansa da ćeš ti proliti krvu sa Italijanima i madjarima, a to nikad nećeš preživeti kek
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>>544853339
Albanians were direct ottoman subjects taken as deshvirme. Not my fault that Albanians rose to top positions like viziers and Serbs generally were canonfodder.
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>>544853345
>Why are eastern euros like this
It's called high test, Timmies wouldn't get it
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>>544852919
No. Were the ones that organized revolutions in France and Russia the good guys? I think not.
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>>544852775
*sniff sniff*
*nibble nibble*
*frown in disgust*
*spit*
pa to nije Matijević, to je Gavrilović!
mene si našao da popederčiš!
*smacks that bitch down*
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>>544853379
>Veća šansa da ćeš ti proliti krvu sa Italijanima i madjarima
On nece proliti ni kap krvi jer se nece vratiti iz Amerike dok ne bude na samrti pa mu eto MOZDA tu pokopaju urnu
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>>544853393
Serbs were direct ottoman subjects too, yet they put up more rebellions in a single decade than Albanians did over their lifetime. You didn't rise to anything through merit, but simply because you essentially became Turks for centuries - you adopted their religion and called yourself Turks. Serbs didn't and put up the most resistance to them out of anyone else, and also fought in Austrian-Hungarian and Croatian ranks.

Again, it doesn't address my question - you flipflop between trying to invert the truth and then wewuzzing when your lies are exposed? Can an Albanian put together a single sincere sentence?
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>>544853497
Lol
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>>544853131
nigger, Bosnians were resisting modernization efforts which were undermining the sharia law, why would Serbs support them?
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>>544853506
You posted battles and framed them as wars. We had way more wars with the ottomans than you guys. And Muhammed Ali Pasha quite literally destroyed the entire Ottoman Navy and Army, had it not been for the western powers and Russia bailing out the Ottomans it would have been over for them.
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why can't slavs just get along?
we're the strongest race, imagine if instead of infighting we would use all of that effort and resources to build ourselves up and keep forgein glow niggers out.
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>>544853659
Why do you lie so much about things anyone can look up in 0.2sec? Insulting the intelligence of anyone by thinking people can't google 5 sentences..

>Serbs had more wars and organized military campaigns against the Ottoman Empire.
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>>544853430
>Were the ones that organized revolutions in France and Russia the good guys?
>overthrowing absolutist inbred retards is a bad thing
the only bad thing was jews undermining the Russian revolution, otherwise it was a good thing and something pan-Slavist already intended to do
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>>544853659
It's like a broken clock, that's the best analogy for Albanians. It's like that hanged Indian that's flip-flopping between larping for IZZAT and begging for acceptance - the same is true for Albanians.
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>>544853774
1. First Scutari–Ottoman War (1405–1412)


2. Third Scutari–Ottoman War (1421–1423)


3. Albanian–Ottoman Wars (1432–1479)


4. Souliote War (1789–1793)


5. Second Scutari–Ottoman War (1795)


6. Ali Pasha's Invasion of Berat (1808–1809)


7. Yanina–Ottoman War (1820–1822)


8. First Egyptian–Ottoman War (1831–1833)


9. Second Egyptian–Ottoman War (1839–1841)

10. Albanian Revolt of 1432–1436


11. Skanderbeg's Rebellion / War (1443–1468)


12. Albanian Rebellion of 1481–1484


13. Albanian Revolt of 1566–1571


14. Himara Revolt of 1596


15. Kelmendi Uprising (1614)


16. Albanian Revolts of 1833–1839


17. Uprising of Dervish Cara (1843–1844)


18. Albanian Revolt of 1845


19. Albanian Revolt of 1847


20. Shkodra Revolt of 1854


21. Albanian Revolt of 1910


22. Albanian Revolt of 1911


23. Albanian Revolt of 1912

total 23
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>>544853379
Tesko tesko, jedini majmuni sa neprezaljenim teritorijalnim tenzijama na tlu europe ste vi, udavit ce vas ko zeceve siptari i horde balija pojacane islamistima. Prosjecnog zabara i madjara boli kurac za nesto od prije 100 godina. Isto ko i svabe/francuze za lorenu i alsace, al ste preglupi da shvatite da mozete samo izginit i onda bit dodatno kaznjeni od svijeta, jer budimo realisticni, klat ce te opet kad tad, samo sta to vise ne prolazi u post zidovskom svijetu
>>544853497
Plovim morem, nesto sta srbi ne znaju kako izgleda, a vjecno prizeljkuju
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>>544853780
>the only bad thing was jews undermining the Russian revolution, otherwise it was a good thing and something pan-Slavist already intended to do
They did not undermine those revolutions. They organized them. "Let them eat cake." was a flase quote used to provike revolutionary zeal. All they had to do was place a few provocateurs and sabotage an institution here and there and the people could be easily led on.
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>>544853837
Again, anyone can look this up - are you flipping back to begging for acceptance any time soon?

>When evaluating the historical campaigns, military sieges, and formal wars fought against the Ottoman Empire, Serbia has more distinct conflicts and major listed military campaigns than Albania.
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>>544853985
Again, anyone can look this up - are you flipping back to begging for acceptance any time soon?
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>>544853774
Serbs having more wars against them proves nothing when Serbia was a frontier state, directly on Ottoman borders, and it's Imperial claims clashed directly with Ottoman interests. Of course they had friction. Even great Allies experience diplomatic friction due to shared borders.
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>>544854067
It is also hilarious how your revolts happened only with the backing of Hungary, Austria and Russia. Yet you come out here talmbout how we are a fake nation. You guys literally look for a master and do what they say, hence why you surrendered to NATO despite not losing militarily.
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>>544854067
Your revolts were related to tax and usually a bunch of small clans fighting Albanians on the other side.

Again, we were speaking about:

1. Conflicts - Serbia wins

2. Total wars against the ottomans - Serbia wins

3. Who fought more for the ottomans? Albanians

4. Who has the largest list of conflicts against the ottomans? Serbia
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>>544854148
Did you ever destroy the entire ottoman army and navy?
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>>544854132
Delusional gloating again, I see? Again, you were the biggest enforcers of rule for the ottoman empire, you adopted their religion and even their identity - called yourself Turks. You did as they say, and they're your key ally even today.

Again, why did you switch the subject after being caught in your lies?
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>>544854206
>Did Serbia deliver a more severe blow than a 50x larger country

Probably no, what about Albania?
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>>544854148
The revolts of the 1800s were nationatilistic and different compared to those of the prior centuries. Serbia used the weak state of the region to form an Empire, but it was clear the Serbian Empire had no capacity to enforce it's authority in the same way the Ottomans did in their beginning stages. Thus, it was easy to further divide and slowly subjugate such a region. Why fight wars against stronger nations when an Ottoman could look at an obvious vacuum in the Balkans and proceed to conquer it.
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>>544854255
Both can be true at the same time. We are more warlike then you, hence we fought both more for and against the Ottomans.
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>>544854356
Lmao, delusional gloating it is for good then, I see? A single search debunks you instantly:

>>When looking at the overall balance of centuries spent under Ottoman rule, Albanians fought the most for the empire by providing thousands of elite troops and dozens of high-ranking leaders across the globe, while Serbs fought the most against it by launching continuous, systemic rebellions and wars of independence that ultimately helped dismantle Ottoman rule in the Balkans. Conversely, Serbs fought the least for the empire after the 16th century as their role shifted almost entirely to anti-Ottoman resistance, while Bosnian Muslims fought the least against it, directing their weapons toward Istanbul only in specific instances to defend their regional autonomy or when they felt abandoned by central imperial reforms.

>while Serbs fought the most against it by launching continuous, systemic rebellions and wars of independence that ultimately helped dismantle Ottoman rule in the Balkans. Conversely, Serbs fought the least for the empire after the 16th century as their role shifted almost entirely to anti-Ottoman resistance


>More warlike

You're midgets, not warlike at all and never even had a notable Albanian state nevermind an empire, while Serbs conquered your entire country.
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>>544854356
>We're warlike
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>>544854355
>>544854424
The Serbian Empires army was half Albanian, and Dushan helped us expand into Greece. He also taxed Albanians less than Serbs and gave us more rights like his predecesor stefan milutin did.
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>>544854356
>We're warlike bro dude trust
>We had some clan wars against each other
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>>544854495
>serbs call montenegrins serbian sparta
>strongest montenegrin clan is Kuçi which were alb speaking until 20th century
lol, lmao even.
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>>544854481
>Serbian empire wuz Albanian

>The claim that the Serbian Empire's army was "half Albanian" is historically inaccurate.

Key Facts on the Serbian Empire's Military Composition

• Core Army Structure: During the reign of Emperor Stefan Dušan (1346–1355), the core of the Serbian imperial army consisted of Serbian feudal nobility and heavy cavalry, complemented by foreign mercenaries (such as German knights led by Palman, commander of the "Alemannic Guard"), Spanish mercenaries, and troops from other parts of the Balkans.
• Albanian Contingents: Albanian troops served in the military of the Serbian Empire, primarily as light cavalry units. For instance, historical records note that Stefan Dušan recruited a light cavalry force of roughly 15,000 Albanians.
• Total Force and Proportions: While Albanians and other groups (such as Greeks and Vlachs) lived within the expanding medieval empire and contributed auxiliary or specialized units, they did not make up half of the imperial army.
Would you like to explore Stefan Dušan's military campaigns or the specific feudal
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>>544854495
171 Albanians died in Ukraine, only 13 Serbs did. In the Croatian war of independence 88 Albanains died. Face it, we seek conflict and gravitate towards it. We are a warlike people, wheras you guys seek comfort. That is why you surrendered to NATO after a bombing campaign which mostly killed Albanians and destroyed infastructure in Kosovo.
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>>544854481
It's not uncommon for an emperor to tax his minorities less than his own ethnic group, it has to do with the stability of the empire
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>>544854255
You used this map before. The high numbers are due to that region of Western Balkans, especially Bosnia, being a frontier region. Most of the hardened Ottoman troops were stationed there due to closeness to the Holy Roman Empire.
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>>544854620
That's called laws, moron. It became impossible for Serbs to join such conflicts due to the president making both illegal, so recruiters weren't allowed and they wouldn't have anything to come back to even if they somehow found a way.

>173 Albanians died

Your own president debunked that claim. What you did is join the ISIS and kill christians in Syria, picrel
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>>544854647
Albanians who live outside of Albania have won a plethera of medals in boxing, weightlifting and wrestling. The youngest wrestling gold medalist in the olympics was an Albanian for yugoslavia.
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>>544853200
Yes, Reddit said so.
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Another balkanigger thread about to be dead. Differences settled. No more brother wars. Peace in our time and all that. I'll see you next time when we will surely be able to convince each other that "my" way of thinking and interpreting history is better than "yours".
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>>544854774
It is illegal for Albanians too to join foreign conflicts. We are simply braver than you. This is objective and honest Serbs admit this.
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>>544854718
I didn't. Someone else didn't. The high numbers are not due to that, hence you also have Albania.

The high numbers are because you were enforcers of their rule and beenfited from it as Muslims - this is verifiable literally anywhere and can be looked up with a single google search. You fought for them because even 600 years later you celebrate Turkish day, and because in all that time you called yourself "Turks". So what now, your memes turned out to be a projection and now you need some copes for why that is?

Albanian ISIS member



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