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>mental health, psychiatric and psychological discourse becomes central to how people understand themselves and others.

>Everyone becomes less happy and less robust

how did this happen?
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>>546268415
>reddit spacing
The psychiatric field is seized by pharmakikes
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>>546268415
>how did this happen?
It's this approach of "today, every kid must see a psychologist!" that fucked things up. I mean I get it if your children are seriously mentally ill, but you don't need to send a kid to a shrink every time something goes wrong. What about letting them deal with their problems on their own?
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>>546268415
turns out actually understanding what is happening and how it affects your mind instead of just going with the flow exposes how shitty things are, also doesn't build that ingrained response of just gritting your teeth and dealing with things as they come
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>>546268580
>REAL men don't talk about their feelings [beats family, drinks himself to sleep every night]
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>>546268415
>diagnose completely normal reactions to our fucked up society as mental illness
>suddenly everyone is mentally ill
idk man probably just a coincidence
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>>546268482
>big pharma

That only offers a partial explanation. its become normal for people to be immersed in the pathologisation of themselves and ordinary life. Far from being a liberating or emancipatory experience, this seems to be making everyone considerably worse.

its "big pharma" or externalities like the economy's fault only go so far in explaining this.

Maybe therapeutic cutlure is inherently flawed.

the left and right have both given up placing the psych industries under any form of scrutiny
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>>546268635
Personality disorders implies that anyone having a personality is a disorder
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>>546268415
>everyone becomes less happy and less robust
>they seek an explanation for their malaise
>mental health, psychiatric and psychological discourse becomes central to how people understand themselves and others
You inverted the causality OP. You are a cocksucking faggot.
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>>546268699
Okay, pharmakikes and actual kikes.
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>>546268635
its n ot so much that they've recieved a label. its more that they become dignosed, go through a system of "therapy" and then become less happy and less robust.

I know countless people who have gone through this process and basically don't function anymore.... and thats before you start looking at the efficacy of medication.
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>>546268743
It used to treat schizophrenia/manic episodes with actual pills (e.g. clozapine, it has a 4% death rate but it's actually effective)
Now it's just gay and retarded after the addition of six genders in Talmud
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>>546268805
Considering how expensive a therapy session is, I don't think most people consult one.
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The left in particular used to place emphasis on questioning the psych industries and therapeutic culture but for some reason this fell by the wayside. Same goes for the right.
????
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>>546268811
They also used to stick ice pickers on people's brains to treat mania. All of that shit stopped being used because they don't work.
>but new treatments don't work either!
Yes, but they don't leave people as soulless husks locked away in asylums like old treatments did.
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FUCK NIGGERS IN THE ANUS ANUS
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>>546268951
>Transgenderism is valid and not a mental illness
Okay libtards, consider it done.
>Pornography is an addictive substance and people consuming them should be considered mental ill
Okay Conservatards, consider it done.
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>>546268995
Clozapine is still the most effective psychiatric drug until today.
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>>546268839
not true. Psych services are often free at the point of use or subsidized in many western countries.And lets not pretend that people arent immersing themselves in therapy culture without using a therapist. Books, yootoob videos, online forums, scial media are all saturated in therapeutic discourse. The language of depression, anxiety, trauma etc is ubiquitous.
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>>546269112
Yes, and it also causes patients to become obese, have heart problems, etc.
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>>546268556
Sometimes just talking through things with a supportive party is all the help people need and that's literally what therapists do.
Psychiatric help is a next step if the problems are severe enough.
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4chan gets remarkably defensive when you start poking around in these areas.

This is the sort of response I'd have expected from Reddit or Tumblr, not 4chan.

Ten years ago, 4chan was almost reflexively dismissive of the psych industry and therapeutic culture. Now not so much.

I suppose that's further evidence of just how thoroughly the whole grift has been normalised.
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>>546269414
It's almost like the world has gotten worse and everyone is more isolated now.
Linkin park was therapy for millennials back in the early 2000's.
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>>546269414
no because you’re all unbelievably ignorant and redeeming illusions its not worth talking about
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>>546268415
Thankfully you aren't speaking German, Abdul! haha...
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>>546269412
>Sometimes just talking through things with a supportive party is all the help people need

statements like that have become a dogma. talking therapy ideas, formal or informal, have become a go-to solution yet as it becomes more popular people keep getting worse. its supposed to turn us into rational, happy, robust, self-actualized individuals
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>>546269412
You are talking to a jew

Jews being alive is why people are insane. Everybody pretending like we have to live with them is why people are insane.
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>>546269122
>online
Yeah, the mentally ill have a considerable amount of NEET/Hikikomori.
Do you see people talking about retarded things like CPTSD (PTSD wannabes) irl?
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>>546269268
Name one psychiatric pill without severe side effects
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>>546269526
touched a nerve eh?

>>546269506
blaming external material circumstances only goes so far. Times have been hard before and people werent so weak and incapable.
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>>546269506
Linkin Park has a discord server that ask for pronouns as of currently btw
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>>546268415
TPTB are anti-life, anti-human. They want to poison and stigmatize your kids until they stop reproducing or kill themselves
>>546268482
This. Some disturbing horror stories out there. 'Doctors' who indoctrinate and poison kids should be killed.
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>>546268415
>cause I made up in my head

>validate my false association
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>>546269591
>Do you see people talking about retarded things like CPTSD (PTSD wannabes) irl?
yes. trauma buzzwords like "triggered", "safeness" "safe space" etc have become ubiquitous.
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>>546269638
>blaming external material circumstances only goes so far.
So does blaming the victim, which is all the mental health industry exists to do.
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previous boomer era operated on "dishonest harmony"

a dad could be beating his kids but everyone pretended its fine and smiled for the photos

a priest could be raping girls but everyone looks the other way because he's a man of god and pillar of the community

a female teacher could be abusing the students and using corporeal punishment and it's still okay because it's just tough love

now people's patience for such humiliation rituals are zero

it's called narcissistic collapse
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Unironically, lifting and touching grass fixed every mental problem I had when I was a teen
I know it sounds too simple but it works
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>>546269722
nope. therapeutic culture revolves around absolving the patient from responsibility.

its not your fault
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>>546268415
Because women and jews are liars. Not joking, by listening to these subhumans you create mass psychosis when what you’re told meets reality.
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>>546269707
Well, you live in Bongland, can't say much about it.
Trans flag posters on the street while the imported Muslims kill them.
I would've become a madman too.
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>>546269555
It might have something to do with the most basic needs being more and more tenuous and people understanding they might be one bad week from losing everything.
>>546269638
Times were bad before but those bad times were a blip in the good. Now the bad times are the norm with the good being the blip.
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Mental illness isn't real. If you live in the confines of the usury beast system, especially as a young white man (lowest on the totem pole), then you will eventually feel like shit as you cannot change your situation. It's an extreme problem of living that shouldn't exist at all and only benefits certain (((people))). All 'mental health' treatment and drugs are cover ups of the actual solution - the total destruction of the usury beast system and those who run it.
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>>546268415
It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.
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>>546268743
This was exactly what I was thinking when I read OP. Social media, 24 hour news cycle, and distancing from being with people IRL are doing far more harm than seeing a shrink.
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>>546269873
I don't want to socialize with slaves. I want the slavery to end.
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>>546269919
Wait for another decade of AI development.
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>>546268415
Maybe its because the world is actually shiet and people are realizing that those who "lord" over them have none of their interest at heart. They took the time to express the importance of an individual before then proceeding to fill it with fear, selfishness, and blunt them all so they can become a cog in the machine. People are more depressed by percieved threats; not the really important one that deep down they know that jews should be killed to the last and all browns removed from their nation. Also incase it wasn't clear People are caucasians, not brownoid sub-humans who can't even think let alone rationalize any of this.
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>>546269982
Go fuck yourself technophaggot. I don't want to be a slave to a chatbot either.
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>>546268415
>how did this happen?
The psychatrist replaced the priest
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>>546269675
They literally test unverified drugs on children using bribery (Wellbutrin Scandal)
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>>546270051
What's so bad about artificial heaven anyways
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>>546270055
Oui. The therapeutic state has taken on the duties of pastoral care that once were the preserve of the church........including confession
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>>546270144
Because it isn't fucking real and my free will and powers have been limited to a state sanctioned set of possibility.
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>>546270372
>ID jump
Anon I...
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>>546269834
>Times were bad before but those bad times were a blip in the good
nope. in the 80's western countries lost huge industries under neo-liberal reforms. thousands of people were left destitute and we thought Mutualy Assured destruction was inevitable.... and people just dealt with it better
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>>546268415
It's two different things, what happened is that people lost a day-to-day focus on survival. You don't get time to think about whether you're actually a woman in a man's body when you have to get up at dawn and find a wild boar to kill with a rock or your children starve
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>>546268415
People need things like community and purpose in life, which are sorely lacking. Therapy is treated like a new religion but it isn't one, it's a business.
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There is no way to prove another person is mentally ill.
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>>546269638
>blaming external material circumstances only goes so far
You're literally doing that right now you cum guzzler. You're blaming this "therapy culture" (an external abstract circumstance) for the malaise of modern society.
Truth is, you can't pin the current zeitgeist on one particular factor, but an accumulation of many factors.
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>>546269506
>world has gotten worse
Not even 100 years ago people weren't at leisure to whine 12 hours a day online about how hard life is because they don't get pussy.
Your generation is just the weakest generation ever and 95% of your generation would die the moment welfare stops coming.
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Dysgenics driven by treating these problems instead of culling them. Medicine is the great filter. Doesn't matter if psych or anything else
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>>546268415
Correlation =/= causation
Both these things are just symptoms of the modern world. Industrialisation, post-industrialisation, urbanisation, education, communication technology etc.
You can trace these trends at least as far back as the 1800s, probably further. It's just back then they effected only the urban population, and especially the educated urban population, which was still a minority in most nations. Now the entire Western world is part of the educated urban population, and the negative external influences on the psyche are 1000x more intense than it was when student radicals were just reading pamphlets and sharing these destabalising ideas with factory workers.
I wouldn't be suprised if there is some link between psychological discourse/therapy and unhappiness but you couldn't prove it by looking over time since there are infinitely more factors of much larger magnitude at play. You'd have to compare people living at the same time with similar circumstances but different exposure to modern psychological theory if you wanna prove this claim.
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>>546270595
No that would be the boomers.
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>>546270107
Disgusting fucking scum. These cunts have a lot to answer for.
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>>546269919
Not socializing often IRL will have an affect on you whether you think it will or not.
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>>546270595
100 years ago people get pussy easily
Even Picasso visit brothels often
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>>546269122
America is where most of the videos of schizophrenics freaking out come from. Therapy there is insanely expensive and their medical system itself is garbage that over-medicates people.

The entire healthcare system revolves around giving money to companies and middlemen at the expense of patients.

American social media pushes therapy speech because it's algorithmically made to push shocking things that grab attention.
>>546269628
None of them. As I said, psychiatry and psychology have changed towards shit that damages less than older treatments.
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>>546270570
ok. put i specifically meant material conditions....the leftist trump card.
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>>546270674
Yeah man, the guys who actually learned a trade, be it agriculture, industry, technology and what else and created the modern world would surely die, unlike the zoomer rats who has never grown a vegetable, never built anything, never learned anything. You are a parasite on society, a failed experiment in giving kids too much freedom, care and rights.
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How do you prove that everyone is less happy?
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>>546270757
>boomer subhuman projection
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>>546270720
And now you can get paid pussy to come to your house with a few clicks on the computer, retard.
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>>546270761
Suicide rates are higher, I guess.
But the cost of committing a suicide is also lower.
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>>546270827
>Only in Norway and The Netherlands
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It doesn't seem healthy to seek categories in which to place yourself. I've read a bunch of symptoms of different personality disorders (e.g., schizoid) and at least several will seem applicable. It reminds me of what Dostoevsky was trying to communicate with Notes from Underground, where he argues that people aren't piano keys.

Great art I think is produced from a place of unknowing, of being guided by some powerful force which you do not question or attempt to logically deconstruct. This is the essence of divine inspiration, etc. David Lynch said he would never attend another therapy session because he didn't find it conducive to producing art. It's like Taxi Driver where Travis lies in bed alone and says he does not think a man's life should be spent alone and dedicated to morbid introspection.

The core of life is the Will to Live. It makes flowers grow, animals to build nests, the human heart to beat. Fernando Pessoa said that if the heart could think, it would stop beating. People (including myself) need to live a more authentic life guided by natural inclinations and desires. Attempting to dam the river causes neurosis, paralysation and weakness of spirit.
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>>546268415
>>mental health, psychiatric and psychological discourse becomes central to how people understand themselves and others.
people used to go to church
>>Everyone becomes less happy and less robust
now all the women are debriefed by a psychologist who tells them when to get a divorce
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>>546270818
I'm sorry, but your encyclopedic imagebank of black cocks and esoteric knowledge of hitler's testicle size will not keep you fed in the world after "boomers".
As society crumbles around you because your generation refused to learn how to maintain it, you will beg for the boomers to come back as a pack of feral niggers tear you limb from limb to feast on your skinny flesh. This is the future you chose.
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>>546270833
I guess thats true compared to 20nyeaes ago but you go back further and suicide rates are about the same as 100 years ago
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>>546268415
Jews
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>>546270853
It's illegal in Norway, retard. Have you never heard of escort sites? Fucking african shitholes has those websites.
Christ, zoomers really are helpless
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>>546270908
>boomer crashout
Someone get gramps back to his room
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>>546269555
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>>546269555
the pyramid is upside down and God goes on top
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>>546270948
Maybe we don't have them because we're not an African shithole
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Perhaps its not so much that people are less happy maybe its just that the boomer/gen x/ early millennial happiness levels were an anomaly
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>>546268699
The other piece of the puzzle is in our materialistic culture. This has been known as a danger for ages, but now that we're fully immersed in it with all the problems everyone said would arise, suddenly no one has any idea what's happening!

You're all fools, and you will die fools.
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>>546271045
What was taken from us...
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>>546268415
A great book I read about this very subject recently is Triumph of the Therapeutic. It covers how therapy replaced religion, and how self-analysis is an interminable end. It is so much mental strain for one person to take their own subjective morality and apply it to every situation, instead of believing in an external moral community. Therapy provides no solace or spiritual reprieve, simply information.
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Because psychology is a pseudo science which base the current gospel on whatever the most influential and popular clique claim on the matter, and is mostly based on vibes and semantical reinterpretation. Wether or not an hypothesis is taken as factual is solely the result of vibes, ie how modern psychology blatantly disregard the influence of genetics on a given person psychology because muh racism/discrimination is bad, unless it is beyond obvious it do have an influence (ie familial predisposition to a specific genetic ailment with psychological repercussion cannot be disregarded from being potential vectors, either in good and bad faith.), so its a fucking mess of contradictions where every inconvenient realization get sent onto the pile to be against against by someone at a later date, if ever. The field has also become insanely politicized, mostly due to the frequent usage of mental illnesses as narrative points of glownigger's falseflags.

Do mind that it isnt the case of neuro-psychology, which studies the the relation between psychology and how nerves literally interpret and translate the relevant data. As in, how to do a neural surgery without affecting the person personality.
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>>546268415
no major war in 80 years
life's been too good for too long
need a culling of weakfags again
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>>546271456
>I want to be raped again and again!
Do Poles really
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>>546271763
you know I'm right
generations of soft faggots from living too good
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>>546271857
t. A Pole without even a month of military training
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>>546271857
Youre an abomination that is chronically in pain. Just because you got raped doesnt mean everyone else deserves to be raped.
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>>546268415
Because in the end it's all just a new industry. Keeping busy and not feeling sorry for yourself cures most mental health issues.
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>>546271088
Is this zoomie kidding? Gook land is RIFE with that shit, hell I couldn't go 10 meters in Tokyo without some whores trying to drag me into their "massage parlors", and taiwan is even more degenerate.
You gotta be larping
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>>546268415
when I was blupilles I still believed that a true love is just around the corner, I just need to keep putting myself out there. Then I learned its a game of powe and resources. Being naive allowed me to play pretend and enjoy goish media back then. Now I cant get no rest anymore.
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>>546268951
The left and right in the west was captured by jews and midwits and short bus people that are retards. Now you can get described as schizo from an ESL Indian who cant understand a word you say as the cause of diagnosis. Should have voted for Hitler. The Rejection to Western Principles are more subtle than Hitler with the Chinese. So perhaps they deserve to win the earth.
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>>546273329
In Taipei, maybe.
Not everyone lives there.
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>>546271857
>let's throw an entire demoralized generation with no loyalty to the system that screwed them into a war
It's fragging time
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“Mental health” discourse encourages victimhood, self-obsession, and rumination. A ruminating mind is what we’ve designated unhealthy, so it’s a self-fulfilling something or other
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>>546268415
the core premises everyone is given are fundamentally wrong. all you can really know is that the popular "how people work" described with "common sense" is completely wrong at the most basic elemental level and i dont think its by accident atp



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