>>18662919
Hopefully Marifuji has some sense and keeps his matches short

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Kitamiya:
>[Dojo Rule Revision]
>The dojo is a place to train body and spirit.
>Water breaks? You’re ten years too early for that!!

Odashima:
>The dojo is a place to train body and spirit—
>on that point, I agree.

>But going without water is a different matter.
>You’ll die before it’s about spirit or anything else.

>The NOAH dojo doesn’t need darkness.
>If you have the will to move forward with all your strength toward your dreams, then you don’t need this kind of guts theory.

>I’ll be taking this down.

>#noah_ghc

https://x.com/noah_daiki_0314/status/1960289557846618328

https://youtube.com/watch?v=z93_u2PvjeM

Take me back

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>>18667030

>Two years ago in the N-1, they didn’t book me. Instead they used young wrestlers from other promotions, or mystery foreigners with no clear background.
>I thought, “Either someone with completely warped sensibilities is at the top, or this company is incompetent,” and even as a young wrestler I was left holding my head.

>Two years later—
>I’m glad I came back before the sinking ship went completely under.

>My first N-1 match is against the vice president, Marufuji Naomichi.
>You’re just as guilty.
>I’ll guide you onto the right path.

>#noah_ghc

https://x.com/noah_taishi/status/1960334139749433498

>The first day of N1 is on the same day terrorists have destroyed the Twin Towers and won

>>18669423
they'll hold up a picture of the towers and ring the bell 10 times
japs are respectful like that

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>>18670704

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on the side
>https://x.com/KLP48official/status/1960553865021153439
seems like TJPW and DDT are gonna do a sport event with KLP48 (Malaysian sister group of AKB48) in Malaysia.

>>18671068
My nigga toy looking dapper and gay as fuck

>>18671109
well, you've seen what Dino has done to his asshole for the last year.

>>18671103
zesty

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>kills your yummy japanese wrestling and takes all your favourite meltzer meme stars generating yummy japanese wrestlers to his Jacksonvile toy box.
Nothing personal weeb

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latest official NOAH relationship chart

>https://x.com/DramaticDDT/status/1960667421456380091
>Tetsuya Endo said entering this year’s N1 Victory tournament in NOAH is his restart point for revenge. Although he means it more in a rivalry way between DDT and NOAH rather than something out of spite. He also gave a rundown of his A Block opponents.
>Endo believes his match with Kaito Kiyomiya will have the strongest sense of a DDT Vs NOAH rivalry to it. He thinks Kiyomiya still holds onto the memories of losing to Yuki Ueno back in 2021.
>KENTA is who Endo is most interested in because he is the GHC Champion, has name value and it will be on the last day of matches for the A Block. Endo wants to win at all costs because this match will carry the most weight
>While Endo congratulates Konosuke Takeshita for winning the G1, he feels regret over it because Takeshita is always a step or two ahead even when Endo beats him. However he appreciates having the extra pressure added to win the N1.
>If Endo reaches the final he would most want to fight either OZAWA or Kenoh. Either opponent fits his idea of using this tournament for revenge.

>>18671978
C'mon Fujita, make a stable of crazy bastards and show everyone who the boss is!

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*sip*

>>18672954
I wonder what Kensuke thinks about all this

>>18673667
Probably disappointed that his "son" followed in his footsteps a little too closely.

If anything, Nakajima's crimes were much less than Sasaki's, while the penalties were much worse. Sasaki accidentally killed a guy, and he won multiple titles albeit as a journeyman. Nakajima knocked a guy out and he's been relegated to GLEAT.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=eml3cre7gHw
this match was always memorable to me. Not a classic or anything, but it's what puro used to feel like. You don't really get this anymore with the young guys coming up. The lack of real heavyweights in the scene hurts every promotion.

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N1 Victory blockcharts

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QUICK!
Post your favorite Tenryu match
>[IWGP Heavyweight Championship] Keiji Muto (c) vs. Genichiro Tenryu (December 10, 1999)
https://archive.org/details/10.12.1999

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>>18676334
When he battled Tatsumi Fujinami at the Tokyo Dome in 1996.

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>>18676334
I usually nominate one of his matches against Jumbo, so I'll change it up and say vs. Great Muta in WAR.

>>18676334
>>18676923
He already said the Muta match, so I'll go with his match with Nobutaka Araya.

>>18676574
I love when Fujinami locks in the dragon sleeper and his blood starts pouring on Tenryu

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>>18676334
Vs. Hiroshi Hase (G1 1993)

Super underrated, they fought like it was a blood feud but it was at the time their first singles match ever.

I was watching the main event on the Yone show, and literally one second after I realized Kotoge is balding he covered up his bald spot and then made a knowing glance at the camera.

>>18676334
Vs Muta in WAR

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>>18676334
My GOAT unironically had his greatest run from 2001-2002 as the grumpiest, oldest Triple Crown champion. You cannot go wrong with the Kojima and Muto matches

>>18671978
NOAH's roster is actually grim and no different from any other indie fed they're really lucky they can still get by on brand reputation alone in 2025

>>18679050
NOAH edges out everyone for me because it's full of old wrestlers I like in prominent spots. Of all the younger wrestlers out there I like Anzai the best, but I can't sit through All Japan anymore. Kaito is good too he's just been booked and presented like shit.

>>18679421
NTA i know that late 20 and early 30 is considered young in wrestling years but to me people like Kiyomiya or Takeshita, who debuted around the same time (2016/15) not sure they should be considered "young" especially if they got pushed in their position very early

bizump
not a lot to talk about for a couple weeks

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>From the Screen to the Ring!
>Get ready forMario Aboard the Ark × @Noah_GHC! An explosive collaboration between Super Mario Bros. and Pro Wrestling NOAH!

https://x.com/Pokemonlatam/status/1961056778441105428

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>>18680960
Wrestle Peter Pan is this weekend
And already hate the idea of waking up 4 am for the second day show

>>18682033
Ya got me

>>18679455
True but Kaito has been Nagata'ed anyway. It's over for him unless NOAH miraculously gains a whole new audience with a new boom period that didn't see all that bad booking.

>>18682395
I'm not a NOAH fag so I'm talking as outsider, but doesn't he still have a pretty big fanbase? he might have been pushed around and lost interest of some fans because him and the mangamented didn't know what to do, but having lows in your career is expected.

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>>18682033
Professional Foot Stomp

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Is he ever coming back?

>>18683389
Bushiroad's problem now

>>18683389
honestly forgot about this dude
damn hes been gone for a while now

>>18683389
What ever happend to him? Isn't he in NJPW? I don't even hear NJPW fans talk about him. What an anti dimes shitter

>>18676972
kek that was based. can't remember the last time i saw someone blade their arm. i wish i could have attended japanese indies in the 90s VGH

>>18683839
he destroyed his foot like a week after signing with them and still hasn't returned

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Jake Lee will follow Gabe to AEW where he will inexplicably immediately get placed in an uppercard position.

>>18684619
Nothing about Jake would really interest Tony. Jake isn't really cool and he isn't flashy in the ring. At best he could be an enforcer for a bigger star like Takeshita or Okada but I don't see Jake settling for that after being in the NOAH and AJPW main event scene.

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>[Program Streaming Info]
>The following 3 shows will be streamed as an emergency special!!
>2025.8.2 Aichi · Kariya City Industry Promotion Center Aioi Hall
>2025.8.9 Hyogo · Acrie Himeji
>2025.8.10 Aichi · Tsushima City Cultural Center

>And tomorrow—PRIME ZONE Plus+ Vol.15
>Don’t miss the live stream from 19:00!!

>#DRAGONGATE #prowrestling

https://x.com/dragongatentwk/status/1961035388430241859

Basara added to WU
https://x.com/W_UNIVERSE2020/status/1961263789569143090

>>18685980
look who came crawling back

>>18686004
didn't they change from isami kodaka to nakatsu recently, maybe is that... but why they got removed from WU in the first place?

>>18686852
Because they left the DDT umbrella which meant no more shows on what was then just DDT Universe

>>18686867
Oh just that, I thought was something else that I didn't now.

>>18686867
I thought it was Ganbare Pro that left.

>>18687345
They left too but they left after the WU transition so they got to keep distribution on the service.

If Cyberfight were to organize a big show with the promotions they are managing/holding streaming rights they could pull decent numbers I guess Anyway, getting DG could be a possibility or it's unlikely?

>>18687418
They tried something like that in 2021 & 22 called CyberFight Festival.

>>18687457
Yes, I know but last Cyberfight was back in 2021

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tomorrow's NOAH show will now be live from Sendai. 4pm.
https://x.com/noahglobal/status/1960938073254191251

I heard Aoyagi actually had a great match. Can anyone confirm?

>>18687322
I really hope Kento enters the G1 one day

>>18688187
I studied cagematch and it's at 8.31.

King of Chop returns at Dragongate's next Prime Zone

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>>18662836
>DDT
8/30 Wrestle Peter Pan @ Higashin Arena (3:00pm)
>KO-D Openweight Championship: Kazusada Higuchi (c) vs Jun Akiyama [85th champion, 2nd defense]
>KO-D Tag Team Championship: Yukio Endo & Yukio Naya (c) vs Daisuke Sasaki & Hideki Okatani [87th champions, 2nd defense]
>Zack Sabre Jr. & Kosei Fujita vs Chris Brookes & Takeshi Masada
>Muscle Sakai Retirement 15th Anniversary Match: Minoru Suzuki vs Muscle Sakai
>DDT Extreme Championship ~Earn Your Own Life! A Death Match at the End of Your Pro Wrestling Career!~: To-y (c) vs Yuya Koroku [63rd champion, 2nd defense]
>Yuki Ueno, Shinya Aoki, & Kazuma Sumi vs MAO & KANON with KIMIHIRO & Kumadori
>Illusion, MJ Paul, & Haruto Sakuraba vs Akito, Naomi Yoshimura, & Daichi Satoh
>Danshoku Dieno vs Kazuki Hirata vs Antonio Honda
>Soma Takao & Rukiya vs Shinichiro Kawamatsu & Yuki Ishida
>HARASHIMA vs Hinata Kasai

>>18690769
The triple threat is going to be fun.

Who was your favorite FMW wrestler that wasn't the trifecta (Onita, Hayabusa, Megumi Kudo)

Gonna be a good weekend
https://x.com/W_UNIVERSE2020/status/1961579627333173654

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>DragonGate
8/30 Nara Centennial Hall (3:00pm)
>DL Growth Prize 6-Man Tag Match: Naruki Doi, Shun Skywalker, & Homare vs Madoka Kikuta, Kota Minoura, & ISHIN
>Dragon Dia & Ryoya Tanaka vs Hyou & Riiita
>Nara Rumble Battle Royal ~Right to Enter Naruki Doi’s 11/7 Produce Show~: Naruki Doi, Strong Machine J, Kzy, Flamita, U-T, Mondai Ryu, Punch Tominaga, Ho Ho Lun, Bendito, KAI, Yoshiki Kato
>Ultimo Dragon, Yuki Yoshioka, & Luis Mante vs YAMATO, Dragon Kid, & Susumu Yokosuka
>Masaaki Mochizuki vs Kazuma Kimura
>Ben-K & Mochizuki Junior vs Ryu Fuda & Akihiro Sahara

>>18691128
Masanobu Kurisu
Mr Gannosuke
Tarzan Goto
Masato Tanaka
Tetsuhiro Kuroda

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>>18690769
Stream started
>https://www.wrestle-universe.com/en/lives/vG7fkcMUBNkeAgjMm9n77Z

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>>18694420
Kasai Hinata

>>18688195
I wonder if he is getting paid well enough in AJPW to have never jumped ship. It seems like AJPW is pretty done with him and are pushing the Saitos super hard instead.

>>18691128
Mr Gannosuke was my FMW GOAT even if you factor in the 3 you mentioned

>The Triangle Gate match on Thursday (Flamita, Luis Mante & Bendito (c) vs. KAI, ISHIN & Yoshiki Kato) is a ladder match.

>>18694420
November 3rd! Ryogoku Sumo Hall!, Ultimate Party, special single match: Zack Sabre Jr. vs Chris Brookes

Really good Higuchi vs Akiyama match. Akiyama is still strong for his age and all, I'm happy to see him have that kind of match at his age.

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>>18691128
Mr Gannosuke

>>18694693
I want All Japan to be okay, but I've also wanted Freelancer Kento for years.

Bumpola

>>18689149
very based. King of Chop was one of the most fun small tournaments back in 2012

Does Dieno give shoot kisses?

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>>18662836
>DDT
8/31 Wrestle Peter Pan @ Korakuen (11:00am)
>KO-D Openweight Championship: Kazusada Higuchi (c) vs Yuki Ueno [85th champion, 3rd defense, subject to change based on Anytime, Anywhere challenge rights]
>Dramatic Dream Match: Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Danshoku Dieno
>DDT Universal Championship: Minoru Suzuki (c) vs MAO [18th champion, 4th defense]
>KO-D Tag Team Championship: Yuki Iino & Yukio Naya (c) vs HARASHIMA & Shinya Aoki [87th champions, 3rd defense]
>Chris Brookes & Takeshi Masada vs Hideki Okatani & MJ Paul vs Naomi Yoshimura & Yuki Ishida
>Jun Akiyama, Super Sasadango Machine, & Akito vs KANON with KIMIHIRO, Kazuki Hirata, & Antonio Honda
>D GENERATIONS Special 8-Man Tag Match: To-y, Daichi Satoh, Rukiya, & Hinata Kasai vs Ilusion, Yuya Koroku, Munetatsu Nakamura, & Kazuma Sumi

bump

>>18698611
>https://www.wrestle-universe.com/en/lives/mDPWwdwo48Px2Deq5ubmia
Stream up now

>>18700306
just tuned in gay rapist match is done so i think main event is next

higuchi tenderizing ueno today

lmaooo higuchi is nasty with it today

KWAB

everybody believes in the ACE

HIRATAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

What's everyone's opinion on VKF?

INTO THE LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT

WATASHI WO MITEEEEEEEEEEEEE

series finale

hirata aside I'm happy for the main event.
higuchi was ueno's wall since his debut match and struggled with him so feels good seeing both give their best and end up like that.
im more surprised for the universal match, I legit throught they wanted to give the belt back to mao

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>>18701710
The guy is such a saint aside being a damn good at wrestling.
I wonder what they gonna do with Hirata tho the tag belts are firmly attached to two heavyweight and the extreme is being played around with the younger guys.
The universal is a big mystery to me because like you i thought they would give it back to MAO. Masada seems a bit weird of a choice, since not none of your top players could beat him.

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>appropriates Muslim culture
>appropriates black culture
>appropriates gay culture

DGLive dates for September. Next show is Korakuen on 9/5.
https://x.com/DragonGateEN/status/1962171302896374035

>>18703582
Card for Storm Gate 9/4
>Mochizuki Jr. vs Kazuma Kimura
>Natural Vibes (Strong Machine J, Kzy & U-T) vs Don Fujii, Takashi & Problem Dragon
>Paradox (YAMATO, BxB Hulk, Susumu Yokosuka & Kagetora) vs Mochizuki Dojo (Masaaki Mochizuki, Ryu Fuda, Daiki Yanagiuchi & Akihiro Sahara)
>Yuki Yoshioka & Dragon Dia vs Dragon Kid & Naruki Doi vs Shun Skywalker & Homare
>LOVE&PEACE (Hyo, Ben-K & Riiita) vs ??? (Madoka Kikuta, Kota Minoura & Jason Lee)
>Open the Brave Gate Championship Match: Ryoya Tanaka (c) vs JACKY KAMEI
>Open the Triangle Gate Championship: Flamita, Luis Mante & Bendito (c) vs ??? (KAI, ISHIN & Yoshiki Kato)
*Ladder Match

August attendance numbers
>1. NJPW: 45,223 (12 shows, 3,768 avg). Domestic attendance: 27,608 from 11 shows. Overseas attendance: 17,615 from 1 joint show with AEW
>2. Stardom: 11,758 (12 shows, 979 avg)
>3. Dragongate: 8,138 (16 shows, 508 avg)
>4. AJPW: 6,519 (6 shows, 1,086 avg)
>5. NOAH: 5,771 (6 shows, 961 avg)
>6. Marigold: 4,613 (9 shows, 512 avg)
>7. Sendai Girls: 3,920 (3 shows, 2 w/o reported attendance)
>8. BJW: 2,441 (22 shows, 6 w/o reported attendance, 152 avg)
>9. TJPW: 2,245 (6 shows, 374 avg)
>10. OZ Academy: 1,525 (2 shows, 762 avg)
>11. GLEAT: 705 (3 shows, 235 avg)

August 2024 numbers
>1. NJPW: 34,862 (12 shows, 2,905 avg). Domestic attendance: 32,596 from 11 shows. Overseas attendance: 2,266 from 1 show
>2. Stardom: 10,310 (14 shows, 736 avg).
>3. Dragongate: 9,982 (15 shows, 665 avg)
>4. NOAH: 7,015 (8 shows, 876 avg)
>5. AJPW: 5,318 (4 shows, 1,329 avg)
>6. Marigold: 4,119 (9 shows, 457 avg)
>7. BJW: 2,906 (23 shows, 11 w/o reported attendance, 242 avg)
>8. TJPW: 1,751 (6 shows, 291 avg)
>9. GLEAT: 924 (2 shows, 462 avg)
>10. OZ Academy: 877 (1 show)

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>>18704099
>11. GLEAT: 705 (3 shows, 235 avg)
just fuck my shit up famalam

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AEW just put the most important mach of the 2000s on their youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqTmo31SdNw

>>18704099
>>11. GLEAT: 705 (3 shows, 235 avg)
How do they pay their wrestlers?

>>18662919
NO PARTNERSHIP?
NO OMOS?
NO NAKAMURA?
NO OTIS?
NO TOZAWA?

>>18704521
with a bento and a bow

>>18690769
>KO-D Tag Team Championship: Yukio Endo & Yukio Naya (c) vs Daisuke Sasaki & Hideki Okatani [87th champions, 2nd defense]

Great match with anticlimatic ending

>>18704647
**1/4 in my book

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>>18662836
>AJPW
Day 1 of the Royal Road tournament was pretty good... but Day 2 was hot garbage. I can't even motivate myself to watch Day 3 yet.

>>18662919
>NOAH
Solid as hell N-1 tournament this year, they'll have to work hard to find a poor winner from this crop. Kitamiya should win but I'd be happy with Kenoh, Soya, Kiyomiya, OZAWA, Fujita, KENTA, or even Sasaki

>>18690769
>>18698611
Peter Pan was the first 2-day show in ages that was solid on both days. Day 1 looked weak but was surprisingly enjoyable, very easy watch with a sterling main event paying tribute to the past. Day 2 was top-to-bottom rock solid, great tags, great comedy, midcard, and main event that heralded the future.

>Dragon Gate
Thought I'd drop the promotion for a while after YAMATO dropped the title but I can't stop watching the development with Skywalker.

>BJW / FREEDOMS
DeathMania show was okay, kind of surprised with result for Buzzard vs Hashimoto. Didn't care for AKIRA's match. Feast of the FREE was okay as well, disappointing barefoot and junior matches but tags were okay and main was good.

>Evolution / GLEAT
Hoping the hints of a feud between these companies pays off... Suwama vs Nakajima would be great.

>BASARA
Saw two most recent shows... or, at least, the main events and tags. I need to see more! These were phenomenal, didn't think much of Ryota Nakatsu before but now I'm hooked.

>Misc.
The Ganbare Pro event for 9/1 looks neat, and I still need to see the Hikaru Sato show because I'm a sucker for outdoor shows.

>>18705145
Which would you say is the best to watch right now?

>>18704647
Sasaki got injured, the ending was kind of understandable

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>>18705165
On a week-to-week basis?

I'm very hesitant to say NOAH, because history dictates that they will fuck it up and soon, but they're the fed with the most potential right now.

DDT has the highest highs of any company right now, but their weekly shows are pretty dull.

DragonGate is similar, their big shows are very consistently good-to-great but their lessor shows are repetitive as hell.

AJPW refuses to book competently, but could recover briefly when Anzai comes back from injury. They have a lot of young talent and some very good veterans but they don't want to use them. Also, they have fewer shows so you might find yourself waiting around between tournaments and big events.

The deathmatch feds have less to offer unless you really only want deathmatch stuff. BJPW has their strong division but the heyday of that group is in the past... Sekimoto and Okabayashi were carrying that brand unfortunately. The Astronauts were carrying the tag division. All of them are gone and Hashimoto's boy isn't cutting it. FREEDOMS comparatively has less diversity of style but has better deathmatch guys and more inventive stipulations.

I haven't seen enough BASARA, HEAT-Up, Ganbare, Evolution, GLEAT, etc. in order to judge. I stick to the highlights. I will say Kyushu Pro is surprisingly easy to watch and they upload everything to YouTube.

When it comes to Japanese indy shows I typically look for any events that feature: Hikaru Sato, Minoru Suzuki, Fuminori Abe, Takuya Nomura, El Desperado, GENTARO, Mochizuk, Yuji Hino, Keita Yano, or Jun Kasai. Usually, some combination of these guys will produce at least one watchable match.

>>18707041
BJW had some great gaijin imports, I really enjoyed PROJECT HAVOC and felt that was sort of interesting and could have been built upon. Much more interesting than Crane, AKIRA and their ilk.

>>18707041
If you're a NOAH fag you kinda just have to accept what you're watching. I'm used to the frustration at this point. It's still very easily my favorite promotion in Japan right now. Maybe I should give modern joshi a shot? I just can't bring myself to care about these modern joshi. The 80s and 90s stuff is impossible to top, and is there anyone out there even half as cool as Bull?

BJW Deathmania replay on rn
https://psp-tv.com/r/CozyTube

>>18707041
I was big into NOAH (and a little into DDT) for a bit but then when Kongo broke up and Nakajima left I lost motivation to keep watching. I debated switching to AJPW but it feels like that hot streak AJPW had for a second has fizzled.

>>18708984
>right now
Well in general it's my favorite promotion. Although I have quit it at times. I stopped watching for a while when Nakajima left.

>>18709500
AJPW is in this weird state where it feels like it's both in a holding position and suffering an identity crisis. I don't know how else to put it. Feels like they're already sliding Kento down the card and he's not even 40. Granted he's been around so long there's not much ground left to cover. I'd really like to see him go Freelance. Him regularly mixing it up in NJPW and NOAH would be so exciting. I'd love to see him get a big Tokyo Dome match.

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>>18707132
I've never particularly cared for gaijin in BJPW, except for Walter back in the day. Buzzard is... acceptable in the strong division and Crane had at least a decent Junior title challenge earlier this year. AKIRA was a snooze. Over in FREEDOMS there's Violento Jack, whom I don't mind.

>>18708984
Pretty much, yeah. What's worse is that I was/am an AJPW fag even before NOAH existed... so I'm quite accustomed to garbage and crushing disappointment. They're cursed... Jumbo retired early because of disease, Kawada had an awfully timed injury, so did Ashino... and now Anzai. They never pushed Hase when he left NJPW. Didn't put Choshu in the Carnival when he was red hot, they had him flame out before the semi finals twice in the Real World Tag League.

One of the weirdest booking decisions for AJPW was having Misawa beat Jumbo once... and then NEVER again. Misawa lost 3 straight to Jumbo after beating him the 1 time, then Junbo retired. It was booking blue balls in hindsight... and it's not like Jumbo was winding down and they didn't have enough time, Jumbo won the Champion Carnival after losing to Misawa. He won the tag titles twice after Misawa. He won the motherfucking Triple Crown AND held it for over a year AFTER the loss to Misawa... hell, he defended the title against Misawa and Kawada. Beating both before losing to Hansen. It's mind boggling in hindsight.

Whoops... went on a bit of a rant there. Needless to say, I'm used to getting beaten up by bad luck and bad booking.

>>18709500
That was a great era, and needlessly ended too early. I think NOAH creative was just paranoid that Kongo would grow too popular and then they'd be forced to drag it out... like nWo or Suzuki-gun or Bullet Club or something. Ending it prematurely as a result, then driving Nakajima out kind of killed hype. Not to mention putting the Muto, not using Muto to put anyone over, aborting Kenoh multiple times, cooling off Kiyomiya anytime he gained any momentum, putting the belt on Kojima, letting Fujita vacate the title, putting Jake Lee over the entire roster, etc.

>>18709650
I wonder when Baba got note of Jumbo's illness.
Jumbo was still really youngish and had years in him at the top if not for the illness. Then Misawa held onto the belt for far too long IMO, Akiyama should have gotten a run in like 97-99

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>>18709576
Honestly, I think Kento is too loyal to AJPW and too selfless. He's been rewarded with every accolade in the company, he's a living legend for All Japan... but it's confined him. His most exciting match in years was the Nakajima rivalry, otherwise nothing is fresh. He seems content to just trade wins and put over the younger guys. Admirable but boring.

I try to watch any indy super shows he's booked in or any of his rare crossover company matches. Miyahara could comfortably jump into the main event scene of any fed in Japan but... oh well.

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Yone's show was based

Any guesses as to what's actually going on with Anzai? I read a ShuPro interview he did a few months back where he said his absence wasn't due to illness, injury or working for another promotion

>>18709924
Put in limbo for smoking weed

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>>18709851
>headbutts you

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>>18676334
vs. Choshu in 1993
Honorable mention to 7.27.88 vs. Hansen

>>18710149
if it weren't for the botches this would have a shot at being my #1. it's just so fun watching them hit each other for real

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Anzai is in trouble because he got caught smoking cigarettes with Kaito behind the 7/11.

>>18710244
Honestly in a match like that botches don't bother me at all because it just seems more raw that way. Like of course they're not getting everything off perfectly, they're borh seeing red

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auUdIzsfP6Y
Kenoh is wrestling with the moral questions.

>>18704283
AKA baby meltzer first DG match ever which he creamed his pants for when matches like this were an everyday occurrence for years in DG

>>18710879
He did that with some random STARDOM tag match this year. It was just a pedestrian spotfest and he inexplicably gave it a fiver.

>>18710952
I think he gave a GLEAT tag like 4.75 because it had Vikingo in it (like third or fourth best match on the card) and just didn't watch the rest
Perplexing individual

>>18709952
A suspension for something does make the most sense given that they announced he'd be absent for exactly 2 months

>>18710149
dirty fucking korean dog

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>>18676334
His match with Antonio Inoki in 1994
Insane giga pops, extremely high tension atmosphere. And TenGOAT was one of the few to go over Inoki.

>>18711451
TenGOAT is 1 of 1. It's disrespectful that people always claim Jumbo was better or associated Tenryu with him because of Meltzers meme 5 star match he rated when Tenryu fucking clears that Jannetty by 10 million lightyears.

>>18704099
>AJPW out drawing NOAH
NANI!?

>>18711534
Comparing them is stupid
Console wars are stupid
They're both GOATS

>>18711534
Many are saying this.

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>>18711534
>>18711651
>Jumbo Tsuruta
Tenryu had a better, longer, more fulfilling career that spanned decades across all the major companies, even made it to the WWF and was protected. The only guy to have pinned Baba and Inoki, he also won both world title of NJPW and AJPW, told Baba to fuck off and formed his own company, went on to carry and do great business with NJPW with an interpromotional feud, then came back to Baba's dead fed once his corpse was already rotting six feet under because he's a fucking chad and his widow was on her kness sucking his dick begging him to come back to save it, which he did, put the company on his back and won the world title again and gave them life for 2-3 years just to prove he was the man then telling them to fuck off again before basically becoming semi retired. Tsuruta, on the other hand, is literally bitch made. His dog like loyalty basically meant he was never the guy or broke out of his comfort zone as his prime was solely intertwined with Baba's so he was always second fiddle and by the time he could be the guy Tenryu was right neck to neck with him. Then when he was about to be the guy again after Tenryu left Misawa and gang took his spot, and then he fucking died LMAO. Nobody remembers him today except obese smelly smarks who mark out for his "5 star matches" because Dave Meltzer told them to. Meanwhile, Tenryu still pop the marks, smarks, and anti smarks just by appearing on tv. HOLY GOAT

>>18711731
HUGE POP

>>18711731
Kek based

>>18711731
待ってました

>>18710292
that or got caught with a secret gf like Kaito

>>18706624
They just announced that he fractured the left rib. I think the moment he got slammed against the unprotected corner? Could be wrong tho
>https://www.ddtpro.jp/news/68b52dcc4444770002007c59

>>18700207
>wasting his 5th GHC win on a transition loss to Kojima
still mad

>>18710292
And holding hands!

>>18711731
I love Jumbo but this always pops me. Maybe if he never got sick they could have mercifully beaten younger wrestlers together in the 2000s.

Anzai will be back at the 9.23 show
https://x.com/anzai_AJPW/status/1962443095389491605

>>18711731
Tenryu's real GOAT case is his bulletproof resume. Like go through his entire career and he literally done it all. Need him to work the classic king road style epic matches? Checked. Need him to have a 5 minutes balls to the walls sprints? Checked. Oh you want him to wrestle the cult figure of deathmatch during the deathmatch craze of 90s Japan inside a fucking exploding barbwired cage? Done that too. Then came the shoot style guys and he just looked like a grumpy old hag sandbagging all the kickpad shitters? Got that too. After completing all his side quests returned to the promotion he started and won the triple crown once more on a generational grandpa run? FUCKING CHECKED. As a semi retired special attraction figure going around to sock the younger generation in their face with chops and punches? Yeah of course that too. Tenryu faced them all, all the legends, all his peers. Home promotion, rival promotions, any kind of match types it didn't matter, he was going to draw the house and pop the crowd wherever he went. Truly 1 of 1. Truly the GOAT. WE MISS YOU GOAT!!

>>18712588
kek what a GOAT

>>18712588
You've just convinced me he and Inoki are the only two GOATs.

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Attendance Numbers in Puroresu so far this year
>Promotion - Total Attendance - Events - Average per event
https://x.com/FGC648948974342/status/1962369114481279266

>>18713223
NOAH's numbers are far more impressive than DG's

>>18713223
And a reminder that Dragongate's Prime Zone shows (which max can hold 60-ish people) still counts as an event and thus drastically drag down their average

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Incredible match. I hope to see more matches like this in his future now that he hit 30

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>>18662836
>>18703582
9/4 Korakuen (6:30pm)
9/14 THE GATE OF ORIGIN 2025 @ Sendai Sunfesta (4:00pm)
9/21 EDION Arena 2nd Stadium (6:00pm)
9/24 THE GATE OF MIYANE 2025 @ Korakuen (6:30pm)
9/28 Kobe Sanbo Hall (5:00pm)

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>KENTA is without a doubt BURNING.
>After all his different experiences, he’s returned to where he truly belongs… and that’s NOAH.
>Who will be the one to stop KENTA? I can’t wait to see‼
>#KENTA #noah_ghc

https://x.com/FortuneKK0327/status/1962489768606159133

>>18712588
Can I get some recs for his shootstyle matches?

>>18709576
I felt like AJPW should've seen if NJPW or NOAH would be interested in a talent swap. Let Kento do a G1 or N1 and they can send someone over for the Champion Carnival.

>>18713794
He only had 3 shootstyle matches, all of which were during an angle where WAR invaded UWF-i.

The first was a tag match... which was boring. The second was a squash match against a jobber.

The only match of note was the final against Nobuhiko Takada. Great match with Takada dispatching the invader.

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>>18714670
Thanks

>>18704099
From some other promotions:
Kyushu Pro: 1,502 (3 shows, 1 w/o reported attendance, 751 avg)
FREEDOMS: 1,475 (3 shows, 492 avg)
Michinoku Pro: 890 (11 shows, 7 w/o reported attendance, 223 avg)
WAVE: 244 (5 shows, 2 w/o reported attendance, 81 avg)

All year so far:
New Japan - 201,675 (2,123 average)
Stardom - 68,779 (871 average)
Dragon Gate - 59,649 (533 average)
NOAH - 48,384 (834 average)
All Japan - 40,038 (1,001 average)
Marigold - 27,409 (498 average)
Kyushu Pro - 19,913 (948 average)
Tokyo Joshi Pro - 17,395 (378 average)
Big Japan - 15,717 (242 average)
Sendai Girls - 9,100 (3,033 average from 3 announced shows)
Oz Academy - 8,141 (543 average)
GLEAT - 7,915 (293 average)
Michinoku Pro - 6,819 (455 average)
FREEDOMS - 6,257 (223 average)
WAVE - 6,109 (197 average)

>>18713740
Gobros...our response?

>>18715750
All Japan's are honestly really impressive given they're basically an indie with a much smaller budget than NOAH and New Japan.

>>18714309
All Japan seems to prefer being on their own island. Don't know why as Nakajima vs Kento was so exciting and a great feud. I really hope he works a G1 or N1 eventually.

From what I've seen from DDT, I would guess they're right between All Japan and NOAH's numbers. I find it perplexing that they aren't announcing numbers this year.

>>18715978
Most puro promotions seem to want to be on their own island. Almost territory like, and their fans even more. NJPW fans will only watch NJPW, AJPW fans will only watch AJPW, DG fans will only watch DG, etc.

>>18716084
Except for my Cuck Ark. Always willing to be the little brother.

>>18717050
Will Brooks injure the IWGP Heavyweight Champion? Let's find out.

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miss me wit dat gay shit

>>18717050
Crippler Chris is finna strike again.

>>18715978
To be fair Baba's philosphy was the walled garden. The older he got the less he wanted to work with outsiders. There were a few outliers, like when Onita asked if he could borrow some talent for a Kawasaki show and Baba sent Kenta Kobashi and Maunakea Mossman as long as the match wasn't filmed, but that was incredibly rare and Onita was Baba's first student and so Baba had a soft spot for him.

If you are interested in what AJPW under baba looked like from the inside you should track down a copy of Stan Hansen's autobiograqphy, The Last Outlaw. It's a very cool read and Stan come across like a big goofy and affable man.

>>18717302
I thought the reason why the match wasn't filmed was because All Japan's video distributer, Vap, didn't want other companies to film All Japan wrestlers. Same thing with the Kawada match from UWF-I.

>>18711731
only facts & logic included here

>>18717731
which is funny because the Kawada match got recorded anyway lol

>>18714670
>The only match of note was the final against Nobuhiko Takada. Great match with Takada dispatching the invader.
that was pretty based i liked Tenryu's complete disdain for the UWF-i rules.

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>>18717104
He likely won't be champ but he has bigger things to worry about anyway

>>18719151
Faggots

>>18711731
This needs to be stickied on the front page of pw

>>18717104
>>18717302
People forgot that ZSJ injured Goto?

>>18717302
I haven't read many wrestling books, but I think I will.

takayamania iv tomorrow
https://x.com/suzuki_D_minoru/status/1962828922812539066

>>18721206
Not sure about this year but I think he ends the show by walking next year.

>>18721206
abema streaming, right?

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Alright smark. If you're so smart who would (You) have booked to beat Kobashi? Remember this is our next Ace. Think wisely or you may get a visit from the Yakuza.

>>18721311
Koshinaka

>>18721311
I would say Morishima, only if he focused on getting fit, so let's keep the belt on Kobashi until January 2006 in this scenario.

Next scenario could be Kensuke Sasaki who holds the belt as an invader, and have him drop the belt to Morishima when he gets fit.

>>18721301
yes. fucking hate abema because i can't never find the right vpn to bypass it

>>18720515
that was a work, he's filming a movie

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>>18721206

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>>18721311
The obvious answer is Akiyama, even if not @ Departure 2004 book him for a 2nd challenge. He was always meant to be the first Ace of NOAH and the younger guys were years away from relevancy. Akiyama carried the AJPW bloodline and was essentially the 5th pillar of heaven. He was also healthier and younger than the rest of the top guys.

After that obvious choice you could have had Suzuki win @ Great Voyage 2005 and hold the belt as an outsider. Takayama was too soon into the legendary reign for it to make sense.

As >>18721478 suggested you wait for Kensuke Sasaki and have him heel it up as an unstoppable invader.

Out of the younger guys at the time only Morishima was capable. Marufuji, KENTA and Sugiura were still juniors. Shiozaki was still a young boy.

In my crazed fanboy brain the only other alternative would be to bring in Hiroshi Hase and put the GHC on the legend!

>>18722479
Is the main event a Fatal 4-Way or a tag or... what's the deal here?

>>18723206
tag but Takayama will determine the teams right before the match

>>18723271
Thanks, appreciate the info.

Honestly, not sure how I would want this to shake out... Shibata/KENTA seems like a good pair, but I'd prefer them against each other. Marufuji teamed with Suzuki early in his career, so there'd be some nostalgia if they were paired but I like them better as enemies.

Suzuki/Shibata vs Marufuji/KENTA seems ideal, but Suzuki/KENTA vs Marufuji/Shibata could be okay... certainly unique.