Double Jannetty? Double Michaels?Double Road Dogg?I don't know if there is a more no michaels no jannetty team than the New Age Outlaws
>>18695684Weird team, they were never more popular than when they were together.
>>18695684Double ... Crush?Most over as part of a tag team but sorta over in singles ... for a while
>>18695693fpbpNot sure how I've never considered them in the Michaels/Jannetty conversation before. But there really was no Michaels between them and there was no Jannetty. Once they became a team they remained pretty much on par with each other
>>18695817Road Dogg had all the charisma but a shit look and didn't come off as credible in the ring. Billy Gunn was huge, good in the ring and while not a charisma vacuum, didn't have main event charisma. If you used them together theyd be hogan tier.
>>18695693>>18695817So... double Jannetty?
>>18695755I like this. very accurate.
>>18695684A rare split-Michaels. Billy Ass Gunn had the look and Road Dog had the mic skills.
>>18696153Or double michaels, I like double Road Dogg
>>18695684Double Jannetty, neither had much success on their own.There's isn't always a Jannetty or a Michaels.
>>18696603They both had 1 IC reign, you can be the michaels without becoming shawn michaels. Bubba is the michaels of the dudleyz because he had more success as a singles wrestler even though he never became a giant singles star>sorry aces and 8s brosThe michaels is the one with more success outside of the tag team, Billy and JJ had pretty equal successes. Billy won a king of the ring but was then shuttled into a gay tag team, road Dogg never won anything big like that but never had to do a fake gay wedding
>>18695684Road Dogg is one of the top guys in WWE creative now and Billy Ass is still over at 60. I don't see how you could spin that to be anything but a double Michaels.
>>18695684Double Jannetty to Michaels and HHH
>>18696653Jannetty had an IC run as well - 20 days to Road Dogg's 14 and Gunn's 19
>>18695684I honestly don't think another tag team exists in wrestling with a bigger 'dimeless-singles-to-dimes-team' gap jump than these twoOne of them was Jeff Jarrett's roadie who secretly did ghost-singing for his songs, nobody gave a shitThe other was Honky Tonk Man's new rockin' protege, nobody gave a shitThen they became a team and quickly became one of the most over and popular tag teams in the entire Attitude eraHow the fuck did they pull that off
>>18695684At the time it was obvious that Billy was going to be the Michaels, he got all the hot tags and had the better look. Then when they actually did push him and Rock buried him so hard he never got a pop again until 20 years later with the Acclaimed. At least Road Dogg got a nice office job with WWE.
>>18696694If you're the guy arguing "double jannetty than that's a fair counterpoint
Billy Gun just because he went to AEW instead of becoming a hhh cocksucker
>>18697530>Billy gunTony, buy more convincing bots
>>18697521I am indeed.
>>18697530He's only in AEW now because WWE fired him
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>>18695684Take a Bump
>>18696697They had a cool catchphrase and ring intro in an era where having cool catchphrases and ring intros were important.
>>18699708Yeah they weren't shit in the ring ... well bilky wasn't. But they were ungodly over as fuck for a year or so
Road Dogg is a shit writer frfr
>>18695684Realistically it's a double michaels since they're both gainfully employed doing different things in different companies. So it's a shoot double michaels but a double jannetty in kayfabe.
Double Michaletty
Is this a perfect example of putting two random wrestlers in a tag team and it actually worked?
>>18695684Gunn is the definite Michaels if only because he would have had a pretty solid solo run as an upper-midcard IC level title guy had Vince not wanted to try making him a main eventer (and Dwayne not buried him for no real reason) whereas Road Dogg's ceiling outside of a tag team was the low card. You can also argue that his AEW run (as shit as AEW is) means that Gunn was able to find success without Road Dogg whereas all of Road Dogg's success came attached to Billy Gunn (New Age Outlaws and 3 Live Kru). In fact he got Jannettied hard by Truth as well. A rare 2x Jannetty.
Oh you didn't know you're ass better call somebody and you can't teach that badaboom relist guy in the room how are you doing.
>>18695755I want to say Kona Crush was kind of over at least. WWF in that period is weird as they just suddenly gave up on guys. Turned Crush heel for no real reason and killed any reason for the crowd to care, turned Adam Bomb face and then made him a jobber, Tatanka loses to Borga and nothing ever comes of it and then turns heel for no reason part way through 1994. WWF was just real bad with pushing any babyface that wasn't Bret at the time.>>18696694Jannetty is really only a Jannetty because of his own fuck ups. Initially anyway. No excuse for him getting Jannettied again by Leif Cassidy.
>>18700871Enzo and Big Cass and they probably should have gotten the tag titles. They were NAO levels of over until they got broken up for no real reason.
>>18701063well I meant more like a tag team where the members were doing their own thing then were paired up randomly, because billy was with bart and road dog was with jarrett. weren't enzo and cass put together from the very start?
>>18701063Because they both got heat with the locker room
Billy Gunn got to mainevent with Tanahashi when they were trying to break into the American market. And probably will have the last great babyface manager run with the acclaimed.Road Dogg has umm Voodoo Kin Mafia... no that was also with billy gun. He was in 3 live krew which were pretty over for TNA at the time.
>>18701050>WWF was just real bad with pushing any babyface that wasn't Bret at the time.They sucked with every baby face push from Warrior to until Austin got the belt.>warrior wins it from hogan>hogan hit dogs, warrior gets fed Rick rude and perfect, one who heel warrior had beat and one heel who hogan beat>drops it to Sgt Slaughter at the rumble 91Slaughter has a based heel run>drops it real American hogan at the first downsized mania>hogan drops it to Taker at Survivor series>Taker drops it 5 days later at This Tuesday in Texas>Title gets vacated>Flair wins it at the RumbleFlair has a based heel run>Macho bears Flair at mania 8>Flair wins it back on a taped episode of prime time wrestling >Bret wins at a house show>starts getting over>jobs to yoko who at mania 9>Yoko jobs to hogan 5 minutes later>hogan does no TV and jobs to Yoko at KOTRYoko has a based heel run >yoko jobs to bet at mania 10>Jobs to backlund at Survivor series>Diesel wins on a house show>1st defense is a draw against bret at the rumble>michaels wins the rumble and gives diesel a tiny heel mania opponent who fucks the finish>then sid a couple times, fucking Mabel>jobs to bret at the survivor series>jobs to girl pop face michaels at mania >michaels doesn't get over because male strippers and their Mexican mentors aren't cool>jobs to sid at Survivor series>sid turns heel>sid jobs to hometown hero michaels at the 97 rumble >Shawn loses smile>Bret wins the final four>drops it to sid the next night>Taker wins it at mania 13>turns into a tryhard goth kid spouting warrior on ambien tier creatures of the night Promos>drops it to heel bret hartBret hart has a based heel run>drops it to male strippers and homosexuals are heels Shawn MichaelsMichaels has a based heel run>drops it to AustinAnd that's how vince win the Monday Night wars ... but most every big push vince made was half assed except for Shawn's facw push which was the most ill advised.
>>18695755Bump to get crush designation over
>>18695755What ever happen to the Disciple from the nWo? That shitter shadowed Hogan and it lead to absolutely nothing. QRD on that Jenetty?
>>18703377I legit had no idea that the disciple was Beefcake until like 2010. I always wondered why he never wrestled until that point. Dimes look
>>18695684The simple answer is that they were both the Jannettys of DX
Road Dogg would have been more over if he didn't do that shake rattle and roll cringe move.
Billy Gun is the clear Michaels. Road Dogg was just a catchphrase merchant. epitome of "and then the bell rings"
>>18695684Billy Gunn has some based and GOATed work besides this team, like Billy and Chuck, Road Dogg was mostly irrelevant after they split. Billy is the clear Michaels.
>>18695755I like this. We should use this.
>>18703428You're forgetting an important Xfactor in your equation...and Chyna...and Rick Rude
>>18699481Man, WCW was always a fucking sloppy shop.
>>18703471His catch phrase was more over than anything Billy Gunn ever did or would ever do.
>>18703551>rupture half the discs in your opponents spine. What do you do in this situation? Make him hug you?
>>18695755I never realized Brian Adams was Crush. (I also never realized The Disciple was Brutus)
>>18703627Earthquake was Golga. Found that out in 2020 at 37.
>>18703443Punch (with theatrics) always gets a pop from me, brother
Billy Gunn is better than Road Dogg in nearly every way but Road Dogg had a better gimmick in WWF, in TNA it was clear that Billy Gunn was the Micheals
>>18701688There is something really grim that the WWF had a top babyface drought for 8 years. Bret was the equivalent of a napkin pressed against a bleeding wound.
>>18703597What is that from?
>>18703845Stings last match
>>18695817It's a real "meh, feels okay" story
>>18703913Ah, I thought that was Tiny Con.
>>18703377He did that whole angle where he got abducted by Warrior and was then left to being C-show fodder. By the end of his time in WCW he'd gone back to basically being Brutus Beefcake except still using the Disciple name. Led to this absolutely based call where Scott Hudson just rapidfire calls him by all of his gimmicks.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9Qkta7TsWY
>>18703789>Billy Gunn is better than Road Dogg in nearly every wayRoad Dogg is a way better promo and is pretty much why the Outlaws were over.
>>18695684>Mr. Ass>Still gets over to this day>Road Dogg>Beginning for jobs in AEW and getting mocked by Tran E. Con and DoorDashing for sustenance I think the term Jeanetty should be changed to Dogg
>>18704772Road Dogg is vice president of live events for the WWE
>>18705153>Has to travel from city to city to personally DoorDash chicken tendies for the boys>Has to sleep in his car outside the LaQuintaIt just keeps get worse for the Dogg
>>18703443Moves like that with extra theatrics got an easy pop during matchesAttitude era had several of them:>Road Dogg's shake rattle & roll punch>Rock's People's Elbow>Scotty 2 Hotty's Worm>D'Lo Brown's 'finger guns in the air' leg drop>Godfather 'revving up' the Ho Train>Bubba Ray Dudley's thing where he throws 3 jabs, whips his fists around each other, does a pelvic thrust then elbows the opponent's head
>>18704482That is Tiny Con force-hugging Sting.
>>18705226>road Dogg goes to LA QuintaWhy he's not in charge of taping dynamite
>>18703503And tori and neidhart
>>18695684Double Michaels but if it came down to it Road Dogg is the Michaels
>>18696697Road Dogg had a good intro and they were on the ground floor for face degeneration X
>>18703597Tony was worried in the final moments of the match that he might not credit for putting it on
>>18703443You could do it like three times in a row in No Mercy so it’s based in my book>>18706261I thought Bubba first started doing that in like 2002
