Live on NJPW World:9/7 Blue Justice XVI @ Togane Arena (4:00pm)>Hiroshi Tanahashi Final Road ~Kinship~: Yuji Nagata vs Hiroshi Tanahashi>Kosei Fujita, Robbie Eagles, Hartley Jackson, Ryohei Oiwa, & Zack Sabre Jr. vs DOUKI, SHO, Yujiro Takahashi, SANADA, & Ren Narita>Yuya Uemura, Shota Umino, Ryusuke Taguchi, & El Desperado vs Togi Makabe, Master Wato, Toru Yano, & YOH>Daiki Nagai, Hiromu Takahashi, Yota Tsuji, & Shingo Takagi vs Gedo, Taiji Ishimori, David Finlay, & Gabe Kidd>TAKA Michinoku, Tomoaki Honma, & Taichi vs Clark Connors, OSKAR, & Yuto-Ice>Katsuya Murashima, Shoma Kato, & Boltin Oleg vs Dick Togo, King of Darkness EVIL, & Don Fale>Tatsuya Matsumoto & Tiger Mask vs Zane Jay & Masatora Yasuda >Road to DESTRUCTION 9/9 Fujisanmesse (6:30pm)>Kosei Fujita, Robbie Eagles, Hartley Jackson, Ryohei Oiwa, & Zack Sabre Jr. vs DOUKI, SHO, Yujiro Takahashi, SANADA, & Ren Narita>Shota Umino, Ryusuke Taguchi, El Desperado, & Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Togi Makabe, Master Wato, YOH, & Toru Yano>Daiki Nagai, Hiromu Takahashi, Yota Tsuji, & Shingo Takagi vs Gedo, Taiji Ishimori, David Finlay, & Gabe Kidd>TAKA Michinoku, Tomoaki Honma, & Taichi vs Clark Connors, OSKAR, & Yuto-Ice>Katsuya Murashima, Yuya Uemura, & Boltin Oleg vs Dick Togo, King of Darkness EVIL, & Don Fale>Shoma Kato vs Masatora Yasuda>Tatsuya Matsumoto vs Zane Jay9/10 Mainichi Kogyo Arena Kuki (6:30pm)>Kosei Fujita, Robbie Eagles, Hartley Jackson, Ryohei Oiwa, & Zack Sabre Jr. vs DOUKI, SHO, Yujiro Takahashi, SANADA, & Ren Narita>Yuya Uemura, Ryusuke Taguchi, El Desperado, & Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Togi Makabe, Master Wato, YOH, & Toru Yano>Daiki Nagai, Hiromu Takahashi, Yota Tsuji, & Shingo Takagi vs Gedo, Taiji Ishimori, David Finlay, & Gabe Kidd>TAKA Michinoku, Tomoaki Honma, & Taichi vs Clark Connors, OSKAR, & Yuto-Ice>Shoma Kato, Shota Umino, & Boltin Oleg vs Dick Togo, EVIL, & Don Fale>Katsuya Murashima vs Masatora Yasuda>Tatsuya Matsumoto vs Zane JayPrevious >>18654430
Grim
>>187025179/12 Shinnichi-Champion presents @ Korakuen Hall (6:30pm)>Generation Crash: Ryusuke Taguchi, Taichi, Tomohiro Ishii, & Zack Sabre Jr. vs Kosei Fujita, Ryohei Oiwa, Yuya Uemura, & Shota Umino 9/13 Korakuen Hall (6:30pm)>NEVER Openweight 6-Man Tag Team Championship: Master Wato, YOH, & Toru Yano (c) vs Ryusuke Taguchi, El Desperado, & Hiroshi Tanahashi [31st champions, 1st defense] >Battle Line Hokkaido 9/15 Nippon Engineering College Hokkaido College Gymnasium Arena (4:00pm)>Hiroshi Tanahashi Final Road ~Kinship~ 2/3 Falls Trio/Tag/Singles Match: Ryusuke Taguchi, El Desperado, & Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Tomoaki Honma, Togi Makabe, & Toru Yano 9/17 Recruit Staffing RICK&SUE Asahikawa Gymnasium (6:30pm)9/18 Kitami-city Sport Center (6:30pm)9/20 Yakumo-city General Gymnasium (3:00pm)9/21 Kuriyama Town Sports Center (4:00pm)9/22 Yotsuba Arena Tokachi (6:30pm)9/24 Kitagas Arena Sapporo 46 (6:30pm)>IWGP Junior Heavyweight Championship: El Desperado (c) vs YOH [98th champion, 8th defense] >IWGP Junior Tag Team Championship: DOUKI & SHO (c) vs Kosei Fujita & Robbie Eagles [79th champions, 2nd defense] >Hiroshi Tanahashi Final Road ~Connection~: Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Master Wato 9/28 Destruction in Kobe @ Kobe World Memorial Hall (4:00pm)>IWGP World Heavyweight Championship: Zack Sabre Jr. (c) vs Ren Narita [13th champion, 2nd defense]>IWGP Global Heavyweight Championship: Gabe Kidd (c) vs Shingo Takagi [5th champion, 2nd defense]>Yota Tsuji vs David Finlay>Hiromu Takahashi vs Taiji Ishimori>IWGP Tag Team Championship: Taichi & Tomohiro Ishii (c) vs OSKAR & Yuto-Ice [110th champions, 1st defense]>NEVER Openweight Championship: Boltin Oleg (c) vs Don Fale [48th champion, 2nd defense]>Hiroshi Tanahashi Final Road ~Connection~: Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Great-O-Khan
>>18702517toks fale vs oleg boltin will be dimes
>2025>nujamals are pretending to like fale who can barely move now
>>18701904>Leaves to become the 3rd guy in a faction that the fans hate>Has already been replaced by Japanese Enzo and Cass >Has already started cutting "i tried to kill meself" promosGabe should have just waited one more year. He probably could have won the IWGP Heavyweight Championship and got Tony to add another zero to his offer
>>18702521Doubt harold will be back since he is busy with kewpie / panasonic / sanrio. don't worry rocky romero is in charge of the njpw usa expansion lmao>>18702513which bit them in the ass because the domestic market is down and bushiroad fight got carried by stardom
>Yuri on ice>Yuto-iceBravo Gedo
>>18702534Nujamals are truly shameless. They are worse than gAyEW fags and E-drones at this point. Even E-drones don't slurp up this kind of slop.
>>18702571Why is Fale even employed, kek. Everyone keeps mentioning his dojo in New Zealand but has anyone ever made it out of there into New Japan?
>>18702534>nujamals are pretending to like fale who can barely move nowwhen? where?
>>18702573it's a scam apparently.
>>18702522>>18702517has anything else been announced for the shinnichi show? i never get ppvs from nooj but i’m curious about this show
>>18702517Why are they so anti-dimes
>>18702581Boltin Shake would instantly get over like Stephanie's Devil's Kiss in WWE.
kidani spends way too much on soaplands every week. thats why nujapan has no money left.
>>18702574worry about murashima instead
Imagine having a guy to looks like Lesnar jr, and use him as a comedy wrestler
my toys win hahahahaha
>>18702629FUCKING STOP POACHING TINY
darby toy vs gabe toyand my darby toy will winhahahaha
>>18702650REEEEEEEEESTAY AWAY FROM HIROMU CHAN
Hello /pw/.What can I do to have Tonikan offer me contract ?Please I need. Thank you.
>>18702679Make your own AEW tribute fed Gupdeep
these my toys for realthese my toys for realthese my toys for real
>>18702610The difference between NJPW and DDT is that NJPW seems to be run like an actual business, a sports league, whereas DDT really does feel like a family businessLook how happy all of these fucks are, even Higuchi in the back
>NOOOOOOO DON'T RAPE ME, DIENO-SAN
is g isn't for Grim it's for Gay
>>18703138Nice English pole schizo, as always
JEONG MOSQUE LI
>>18702922except poor Ueno who looks like a sad puppybut wrestling can be done in grandiose places and back in your yard it's just a matter of prospettive.I like both DDT and NJPW but people look at them for different things but clearly they could inspired each other, and i don't mean njpw focus on comedy and ddt on serious stuff lol
>>18702922>NJPW seems to be run like an actual business, a sports league, whereas DDT really does feel like a family businessWell no shit, one is a forever indy with a loyal roster and the other isn't. At least DDT is doing its thing right unlike New Japan right now.
>>18703509Furthermore, most of the Japanese companies are pushing their younger talent... unlike NJPW.DDT has Ueno and soon MAO, AJPW has Anzai & The Saito bros, NOAH is rehabilitating Kiyomiya and struck gold with OZAWA. NJPW has a deeper roster than the competition and no desire to push any of them.
>>18703509The right thing like?>>18703536I guess because DDT like other companies has a bigger 20-30 roster than NJPW and over the years they dedicated to make side project to cultivate it and make a fanbase like DNA (ueno, mao, shunma, iino, higuchi gen), the DDTteen and now DGeneration with their underage and early 20s roster>DDT has Ueno and soon MAOMAO is already considered their top player, i think even before Ueno imoWhy keep Murashima and Daiki stuck in the young lion status when they have a very strong personality and talent, that's the problem not just having literal terrorists ias bookers
>>18702534Reminds me in 2020 when Okada was having a feud with Yujiro>LE HECKIN SECRET BEST WORKER>FREAKIN BROKE HIS BACK TO GET TRENT OVER!
>>18703626As a casual DDT fan; I have to ask: How is MAO considered their top guy?Higuchi has more tournament victories, more titles and more main events to his name. Ueno has the same amount of tournament victories as MAO, but he's had more main events and held the top title (not to mention he held the midcard belt longer than MAO). Just looking at Peter Pan... I don't see how MAO is their top guy. Higuchi main evented both shows, and Ueno headlined the main show opposite Higuchi. MAO failed to recapture the midcard belt.
can't believe you nujamals love fale and yano and then complain when we take gabe kidd toy, shamless bunch
NJPW is pushing its young talent at an absolutely normal rate.Go look up Tanahashi returning from excursion and how long it took him to become the top guy. It was hardly instantaneous but you're all a bunch of casuals and don't understand that NJPW makes its young guys suffer basically like nobody else before finally putting them over. Only NOAH is slower.
>>18703918You are not wrong about that, but it's not all about numbers.The perception of MAO being face of the company alongside Ueno cemented in the years after Takeshita left since they kind of represent the two faces of the promotion (no wonder last year before WPP Ueno talked about him and MAO being DDT's spear and shield).But I think Ueno handled more officially than him the "face of the company" part because MAO like do things in his own way, which is why over the years they let him move abroad to gain more popularity there because average wrestler enjoyer like flippy shit. Which is the reason he said post BOSJ he wasn't interested in the KO-D title and after some time decided to try to get back Universal since its "his" belt.Kek sorry for the tl;dr off-topic
>>18704509what young guys are you talking about?They are all 30 or near.
>>18704613That is a young guy and pro-wrestling these days. The only one that is old is Tsuji.
>>18704576Interesting... I appreciate the insight. It's all the more surprising that MAO didn't recapture the title then. As a Suzuki-mark I had assumed it was his time to job and put over MAO.
>>18704509The agonizingly slow ascent of Tanahashi was criticized heavily back in the day because NJPW didn't initially see him as champ material. Inoki pushed every failed MMA chump he could at the time and kept tossing the title in every direction to the point that he had to be forced out of the company. Tanahashi's lack of push and abysmal treatment was a focal point in the argument against creative, and the textbook example of how NOT to book young talent. For you to use it as an example of the "norm" is hilariously ignorant.
>>18705356Maybe you're unaware my friend but this is a pro-fujita, pro-inoki thread
>>18705443Inoki was badass as a wrestler, but he was a chump as a booker. He booked his champs in exactly the opposite manner that he booked himself. He always put himself in scripted fake shoots, then put his champs in real MMA matches. He was too much of a pussy to fight anyone for real, and only took cheapshots when he realized he was against a tomato can bum.Fujita was fucking awesome, Takayama as well. Sasaki and Nagata did well during the late Inokiism days. I'm talking about Tadao Yasuda (feel free to google) and the many aborted schizophrenic-booked champs like Tenzan > Nakamura > Tenzan > Sasaki > Sapp trading belt every other show. Going back to Tenzan when he was injured, dropping the title to Kojima on accident, and hilariously losing his company's belt to Lesnar because Inoki was too cheap to pay him! Lololol what a chump.
>>18705443Roland Bock made Inoki squeal like Nash in '92.
>>18702621wearing glasses make him a comedy wrestler?
nujapoopooohahaha
I want Tonikan to take our toys.
Tony "Based" Khan can use our toys better than Gedo and I will PROUDLY watch from the chair.
>>18707229>"better"You mean wwe lite mixed with pwg instead of choppa kino
>>18708667Don't bother interacting with the schizo that makes these threads. He just posts negative comments to bump and stir up engagement from fans. He thinks any activity in the thread is praise for him, so he'll just endlessly try to farm.
>>18704509They have no fucking stars nigga what are you on about. Comparing what's going on now to a guy coming up in the literal dark ages is very telling>Only NOAH is slowerturn your wrestle universe on
A new door. Maybe it's ddthttps://x.com/tanahashi1_100/status/1962314799028879410
it's happening
>>187107703 old grim dimeless shitters
>>18710695it's happening, tanahashi vs daniel garcia at wk 20
>>18710695He got Shinsuke, bros..
>SORRY BRUV NO G1 FOR ME, ME LEG HURTS
>【Takagi Shingo Channel Updated!】>This time, we're bringing you the moving situation!>https://youtu.be/n7ETQOQh99s
save us Goto
>>18712073he's busy with street fighter
>>18712073Should incorporate the hundred hand slap into his nooj moveset tbqhwy
>>18710695Happening?
>>18710695He's unironically talking about his anus getting busted open at DDT
>>18712437https://x.com/tospo_prores/status/1962426264465400085>棚橋TバックKEK
>>18712437I can't tell if he's like this cuz of enjoyment or trauma..
>Miss me yet?
>>18713253every day, Inoki-san... please come back and kill Trannyhashi.
>>18713253You put us in the hole deep, Inoki-san. Trannyhashi may be a shitter, but by the end you were no better.
>>18712024finally some kind of goddamn story
>>18712024based emperor shingo has inspired me to clean up my house lol
>clean your room, bucko
>>18713253If Inoki was in charge still he would've been IWGP champ for the last 4 years straight
>ass penetrated by Tonikan>ass penetrated by Dieno
don't even try and bullshit us brother
>>18713253Always have.
>>18713253Nope he sucked
>>18712024Poikagi moving in with his woman who obviously makes more money than him
the roughneck
Im predicting 3.2k at Kobe.
Meet Potential Man!
>>18718232october is gonna be so bad for them. double antidraw main event in ryogoku vs noah and 2 wwe show
>>18719133Don't worry tickets are gonna go flying when they announce Tanahashi vs ELP!
>>18715910>gets the month off before beating Tanahashi in a boring matchGood for him?
>defends New Japan
yabai President Trannyhashi has made us a national laughing stock
>>18719860From what? Dimes?
>>18719860Never seen a faster wrestler fall-off in my life without said wrestler being cancelled. Now neither fanbase likes him.
>>18712955GO ACE
>>18720095There's a picture of Tanahashi with his ass out and tongue down another dudes throat two posts above yours
>>18720374He's still BACED though. Gabe is a star powerless bitch.
>>18719860at least Ospreay and Omega pretended to care for Nooj
Does Take a Shit a win the HebbyQ at kopw?
>>18720997He should win it on Collision
>>18720095Its weird because the AEW fans never really liked him. So i dunno why Tony wants him so badly
>tanahashi wrestling the new japan roster is bad!>him wrestling in ddt and dragon gate is also bad!the fuck you want him to do then?
>>18721031Tony lives on Twitter and he was popular there.
>>18721076Win the belt somehow before WKDrop it to Yuya at WK giving every last ounce of strength in a 70 minute 8 star bangerino missing his last High Fly Flow after landing the previous 6 in a row
>>18719895embarrassing>>18721076not wrestle every fucking day because no one gives a shit about seeing him wrestle every fucking geek in puroresu
>>18721076Pay through the nose for Shinsuke at wrestle kingdom Don't wrestle until thenMake your farewell tour mean something
>>18721085>>18721094>>18721155all retarded takes
>>18719895this is one zesty ass retirement tour tana’s having
>>18721160Ok Gedo, what should he do then?You won't answer
>>18721094Liger wrestled full tours in his retirement year. The difference is the roster when he was retirement was stacked so all he really needed to do for big final matches was his last Jr title shot and the blowoff with Suzuki. Tana has a dire roster that's mostly dire because the booking he's in charge of is fucking garbage so he's doing shows where he has post billing in Kobe but his final match in the region is with a boring midcarder in match #2.
>>18721228hold on nigga i'm not done>>18721076I want him to wrestle some stars, add actual excitement and star power to these grim shows. Nobody gives a fuck about Tanahashi wrestling bums like Great O Khan or Master Wato. Do those are Korakuen shows if you really want to. Why is every promotion except New Japan getting exciting matches featuring the New Japan president while New Japan crumbles?
>>18721170For Japanese men, homosexual acts are the funniest thing ever. For women it's the hottest thing ever. Everyone wins.
>>18721305a lot of men don't care about homo stuff because every japan man did some gay shit in their life, unironically or not kekAnyway, Kojima was in DDT's show in ueno https://x.com/ddtpro/status/1962837204499341333>Kojima from New Japan enjoys the DDT mat to the fullest!>Kojima: "I absolutely love this unique atmosphere that only this group has, something no other organization possesses. I'm grateful for this opportunity. It was an incredibly great stimulus. I'm glad we were able to come together like this."
>>18721243What "stars" hasn't he faced yet on the New Japan roster you retard?
>>18720997They'll try to give him everything to make him sign a contract and come January he's just going to add more zeroes to his current AEW one
>>18721593Fucking Grimola
>>18721527There are none is my point, dumbfuck. I'm referring to bringing outsiders in.
>>18721641Outsiders in puro who are stars such as? ...
trannyhashi should face all the grimposterswe finna shoot on this old nigga ass
>>18721741you fat faggots couldn't even fit on a plane to get to japan in the first place
>>18721746I don't know about all the grimposters but I am not american so my weight is not a problem
>>18721775Edgelard L is Australian and all you joshipedos are fatshut the fuck up faggot, you are not wanted here no matter how much you spam the thread
NJPW in 2025, as booked by InokiIWGP Heavyweight Championship - Boltin Oleg (c) vs Francis NgannouIWGP Junior Heavyweight Championship - El Desperado (c) vs Katsuhiko NakajimaKazuyuki Fujita and Aaron Wolf vs Zack Sabre Jr and Ryohei OiwaShota Umino and Yuya Uemura vs Conor McGregor and Hideku SuzukiIWGP Tag Team Championship - EVIL and Douki (c) vs Yuto-Ice and Oskarwould it be dimes? I'm out of ideas after that.
>>18721855Inoki was a terrible bookerthe only good NJPW bookers ever were Riki Choshu and then Gedo
>>18721886When exactly was Inoki the actual booker? I forgot the timeline. Wasn't most of the worst of Inokiism just Simon Inoki?
>>18721652honestly they could give chris brookes a call and it'd be more exciting then what they're doing now. at least it's someone/something new
>>18721076It's a little too late to do anything special at this point. AT BEST we either get Nakamura coming back for an "end of a generation" match at WK or more likely he lays down for one of the younger stars at WK... my preference would be Uemura. Gedo probably wants him to fight EVIL again at WK.>How I would have fantasy booked it?Fewer matches but make each match mean more, while protecting his body.Guest matches in DDT, NOAH, AJPW, DragonGate, etc. Hell... see if ZERO1 or FREEDOMS or whoever want to host The Ace. I don't care how small the venue, or who he's up against, it'll mean a hell of a lot more for the fans than a lackluster GOK match.Would see if WWE would lend Nakamura or even allow Tanahashi on a PLE. HHH is a mark, he'd probably be up for the idea. If you put him in the G1 there has to be a reason. He doesn't have to win but at least be in the final match. His G1 was pointless, literally any anon on this site could have made more out of it.
>>18721855The only one that sounds like Inoki booking is:Shota Umino and Yuya Uemura vs Conor McGregor and Hideku Suzuki...because loves putting his rising stars in matches where they'd be up against legit MMA guys, which exposed them and usually put them on the shelf with an injury. Inoki never protected his people, only himself. Hilarious when you find out what happened the one time Inoki tried to shoot on an opponent that knew how to defend himself... hint: Inoki was treated worse than Nash in '92
>>18722005I thought you wanted him to face stars you fucking mongoloid?
>>18722025>it'll mean a hell of a lot more for the fansIn what world? One where subumans with a BMI over 30 like you are a majority?
>>18722025>Nakamura comes back for WK, which is Tanahashi's retirement>his match isn't against TanahashiWhat the fuck are you smoking, anon?
>>18722075Do you think a throwaway match against Master Wato will be remembered in 5 years... or even 5 days?Tanahashi stopping by smaller feds and bringing them into his retirement celebrations would be more meaningful to the fans than putting in a 7 minute brawl with GOK in the midcard of a lesser show. >>18722144I said bring in Nakamura for the final match OR lay down for a younger star.
I have no problem idea why you retarded faggots are fantasy booking nakamura for tanahashi’s final match. Nevermind the fact he’s a washed embarrassing jobber but he’s in wwe and would probably never be on a njpw show again so it’s pointless to give him Tana’s last match.
>>18722227>I have no problem ideacause they need to draw. They have nothing going into 2026. They're banking on Humble Wolf saving them.
>>18722025Kys edrone
>>18722227Tanahashi is washed too, arguably he's in worse shape than Nak because he's wrestling a much more strenuous schedule. HHH isn't opposed to working with other companies. He tried to work with AJPW and has repeatedly lent wrestlers to NOAH. They work with TNA, and now own AAA. WWE is the poison pill of the industry, they'll happily work with most companies because they know they can crush them at any time anyway but the perception of collaboration and competition makes them look better. It's like when Starbucks acquired their two biggest rivals BUT kept the names intact... they knew the haters would flock elsewhere if they rebranded but as long as they kept up the illusion of competition the haters would line their pockets.If there was something in it for HHH, he'd absolutely lend Nak to NJPW for a day. The only company WWE doesn't want to do business with is AEW because it's run by children and dangerous pedos that want to groom children.
>>18722236Haven't watched a WWE show in 8 years now, but go off son.The only thing that would get me to watch a WWE show at this point would be something shocking... like Tanahashi getting a retirement tour special match. Otherwise, WWE and AEW can die for all I care.
>>18722217Do you think a throwaway match against Kenoh or Jun Saito will be remembered in 5 years... or even 5 days?
>>18722283Hmm... well, I still remember Tenryu making appearances in over 12 different Japanese feds in his last year of wrestling, and he was FAR PAST his prime... so yes. His joke match against Dino this past week will be remembered far longer than his match against Masatora Yasuda back in April.
>>18722232Is there anything that says nakamura is any sort of draw in 2025? And even if he is that would be for one show so again pointless for the future. >>18722259Kys edrone >>18722275If you don’t watch it then why do you Tana on a wwe show you stupid faggot
>>18722324The novelty of seeing Nakamura back in a NJPW ring after a decade abroad would be a draw. Seeing two guys that made each other having one last match at the tail end of their careers is a draw. It doesn't matter to you because you probably didn't even start watching NJPW until after Nak left.I called WWE a parasite and you insist I'm an edrone? I said they poison and profit off of the industry but I guess that's not negative enough for you? I shit on AEW as well, but you don't seem to be defending them? Could it be that you're a tribalistic weirdo trying to console war by proxy?The novelty of seeing a wrestler I like being given a send-off by another company is interesting to me. He never did anything for WWE, he never helped them, for Tana to be invited to wrestle on a show would be an act of respect. It's sort of like when WWE brought in Liger for a one-off match... it didn't do anything for WWE but it was a nice gesture.
on everyone's souls streets need that Je'Von Evans vs Tanahashi match fr ngl bruh
>>18722392Nak vs Tana would be a fine match but stupid as a retirement match. Sorry I’m not letting nostalgia cloud the fact that current Nak is a washed embarrassing jobber in wwe.I have no idea what you’re rambling about but I actually only watch njpw and recommended matches from other promotions.Your idea of novelty is seeing Tana lose to some wwe shitter? You’re right it wouldn’t do anything for wwe but it wouldn’t do anything for njpw either so it’s pointless
So how do we cope "NJPW is dying" bros?
>>18722581Japanese wrestling is dead, there is no point of multiple generals here
>>18722599/puro/ is a cope general for NJPW seethers who go on about how DIMES Ozawa is and what a big draw etcof course they all already post ITT, seething about NJPW and AEW constantly
Yota Tsuji fucking sucks.
muh record profits
>>18722672i mean it works when there's ridiculous people claiming that ozawa or anzai are secretely huge draws
>>18722581it's not as grim as people here make it out to be but it's not good that they're only up 3k from last year despite running a second dome show
>>18722724>actually +3000>GRIM IT'S THE GRIM 1 IT'S TRANNYHASHI GRIM GRIM GRIM
>>18722672but that's what you fags are talking about, you're always posting attendance numbers and shityou started "muh record profits," you just hate hearing the truth about your second-tier puro indy feds and your little joshibug feds getting crushed by Stardom
>>18722724>>18722736those numbers are horrible, insanely lowSmall indie shows everywhere else in the World are doing better numbers, not even talking about name promotions
>>18722581How and why the fuck did big japan and 2aw run that many shows
>>18722759Sure thing bro, post an American indie pulling 200k ticket sales+ a yearI'll wait. You can event count TNA.
>>18722771These fags never say what they think is actually good but shit on shota and njpw all the time
>>18722975thread's been getting trolled by a guy who hates NJPW for years nowsad part is i think he also makes the threads, kek
>>18722672The only fans talking about profits and revenue are just stealth AEW and WWE fans trying to start proxy wars.They seethe at the idea of a fan just enjoying the wrestling, and not constantly standing up to protect their slop merchant of choice.Nobody is saying OZAWA is a draw.Nobody is saying Anzai is a draw.Nobody is saying Shun Skywalker is a draw.They're saying they like those guys because they put on great matches. That's it. Do you think people are tuning in to watch micro feds like MUTOHA because they think it'll blow up and become a worldwide brand?
>>18722975>>187227712000 per show with cooked up numbers is abysmal.There is no way to defend those numbers, compared to the actual big wrestling promotions.
>>18723184>They're saying they like those guys because they put on great matches.Yeah those guys saying that Ozawa was a giga draw because he sold out Korakuen for a GHC title defense definitely didn't exist you disingenuous moron
>>18723184Ok but ozawa and shun don’t actually put on great matches which just makes everything sadder.>>18723230What “actual big” wrestling promotions are you talking about moron?
>>18723184>Nobody is saying OZAWA is a draw.kek you're a lying bitch
>>18723307>>18723415I was referring to actual people, not the imagination goblins that love in your empty head. >>18723345Neither are my cup of tea but the fans of this feds seem to get pretty loud for their matches.
>>18723468I could go back through /njpw/ and find plenty of posts of some retard saying NJPW is dead and Ozawa is a huge draw for NOAH, stop pretending to know what you're talking about and fuck off
https://www.bbm-japan.com/article/detail/63669>In addition to Hiroshi Tanahashi's retirement match at New Japan Pro-Wrestling's January 4 Tokyo Dome event next year, much attention is focused on the debut match of Tokyo Olympic judo gold medalist Aaron Wolf. President Tanahashi shared his impressions: "I’ve been devoted to my duties as president, so I haven’t been able to go to the dojo to practice, but I’ve heard reports that he comes to the dojo and trains hard. He has a very serious personality, and you can see he’s earnestly striving to become a pro wrestler.">Meanwhile, his coach Yuji Nagata said, "He’s working hard. The other day, he was throwing and being thrown. I’m teaching him all sorts of things. He’s getting bruises on his back—he’s really putting in the effort. That’s about all I can say for now. There are still four months until his debut, so I hope he keeps working hard. Success? Without a doubt. He has to succeed.">Masakatsu Funaki, who returned to pro wrestling from the world of mixed martial arts, is set to hold his 40th-anniversary event on September 21 at Sky Building Stella Hall in Umeda, Osaka. On July 31, when he appeared on ABC Radio’s "Masuda Okada Masuda no Radio Hunter," he was asked about Aaron Wolf. "There’s no question he’s strong, given that he’s an Olympic gold medalist in judo. However, strength alone isn’t enough to succeed in pro wrestling," he said, drawing from his own experience. "Since he’s strong enough to win a gold medal, he probably hasn’t often had techniques used against him. Whether he’s afraid of taking moves is one key point." He also touched on stylistic awareness: "Modern pro wrestling is fast-paced. Will he think he needs to move like that, or will he stand firm and respond to his opponent’s moves?">In judo, if you throw your opponent for an "ippon," the match ends there. But in pro wrestling, the action continues from there.
>>18723487>Some wrestlers transition into submission holds or ground techniques, while others immediately go for elbow drops or body presses. Some run toward the ropes to launch attacks. Even when knocked down, you must get up quickly to avoid taking continuous damage.>Moreover, in pro wrestling, moves like shoulder throws or being thrown from the top rope often involve falls from heights of over two meters—situations that don’t occur in judo. These aspects also require careful attention.>And above all, Funaki emphasized that the most crucial point is "whether he can develop his own signature move that leverages his judo experience." While techniques like the armbar, the sleeper hold, or moves incorporating the ō-soto-gari come to mind, the key factor is whether the move is "original.">Naoya Ogawa, who transitioned from being a Barcelona Olympic silver medalist, developed a move called the STO (Space Tornado Ogawa), an adaptation of the ō-soto-gari, before his debut. He made a successful debut by defeating the then IWGP Heavyweight Champion, Shinya Hashimoto, in his first match (though the final finishing move was a sleeper hold).>This move involves slamming the back of the opponent's head into the mat and is one of the judo techniques most suited to pro wrestling. However, as Funaki stated on the program, "Even if you change its name, if it's the same technique, the impact will be diminished.">This marks the first time in Japan that an Olympic gold medalist has transitioned to pro wrestling, generating significant public interest. Because of this, his debut match is unlikely to be against an easily defeated opponent. With the January 4th Tokyo Dome event scheduled for a prime-time broadcast on TV Asahi, a disappointing performance could have long-lasting negative repercussions. In a way, this single match carries the risk of determining his entire future success or failure.
>>18723477You made the claim that people are posting about OZAWA being a huge draw. When called out... you provide no evidence, despite the archive.
>>18723500If I find one, you'll say>just one hehif I find two, you'll say>just twoand if I spend an hour making some compilation, I am utterly wasting my time when I can just tell you to fuck off insteadi don't care about your schizo opinion and the people who actually post ITT regularly will know exactly what im talking about
>>18722581you Bushidrone faggots never get itNew Japan being first by far is nothing new, they always have been except for a very short amount of time in historythey should always be first but it doesn't change the fact that puroresu as a whole is in the shitter and that Grim Nihon's attendance numbers keep getting lowerthey had 2 Dome shows on a week end this year and they still manage to get worse numbers than last year, it's not something to be proud about but you subhuman faggots won't get it until Grim Nihon actually dies
>>18723603TL;DRall i see is WAHHHHHHH WAHHHHHHHHHno go ahead and post the Rizin screenshot faggot
>>18723608you're a mindbroken bitch because facts prove that we grimposters are right and yeah the Rizin twinks are easily outdrawing Grim Nihon so you faggots can't even cry about le hecking weak yen or the coughy virus
>>18723619MMA has outdrawn wrestling in Japan for almost 30 years. Comparing Japanese wrestling to MMA in 2025 is the most gay dishonest argument you can make, and all so you can act like you're seething so hard you're ready to shit your own pantsYou hate NJPWYou do not like a single wrestler in NJPwYou do not belong hereand you got BTFO by NJPW crushing your gay NOAH drone fedand Stardom crushing your second rate bug fedseethe, cope, jibber all you like but these are factsno more (You)s
>>18723648MMA has been in the shitter for a while in Japan toodifference is they have draws and actually get what people want to see, that's why New Japan is the Grim era right now meanwhile Rizin is thriving only by booking some twinks with 3-5 recordsthe rest of your post is just a schizo meltdown, I told you puroresu as a whole is dimeless and they won't get better because they're too scared to change from the dimeless formula they've ran into the ground years ago already
>>18723580Hah! you just Sethed you crybaby bitch! lolololololololololol
>>18702522Why is there a caricature of a 2006 rapper next to bootleg Jay White?
wolf aaron fucking sucks
Don't you people ever get tired of acting like this?
>>18724549yota tsuji looks like a 2006 raper?