Literally no reason why Lyra didn't beat this shitter
>>18706806People will blame Nicki but this match was atrocious from Becky’s side.
>>18706806Becky Derangement Syndrome is the most devastating mental illness in the IWC.
It's Nikki Bella, Becky's not a miracle worker>>18706849it's literally just a couple of schizos on this board.
>>18706806Birb deserved to beat this shitter
>>18706887nikki looked good actually. becky is just shit.
>>18706887Did you miss the botch where Nikki went for the kick off the top rope and Becky just stood there holding her face
>>18706806need to throatfuck this milf whore
>>18706958Turn your monitor on
>>18706849You mean Charlotte
without Taters, Lyra is literally worthless. let her fuck off to aew and be forgotten about forever
>>18706995People are pretty deranged about her too, you're right.
>>18706806The Nikkipatrol is out in full force
>>18706806lyra beat becky like 10 times but she couldnt get over because she is dimeless, so they will try with other talent now
>>18706806Why are fans of women’s wrestling all mentally ill on /pw/?
Becky is dimes incarnate she gets legendary pops in during the euro tour
>>18706939No, I saw Nikki totally and embarrassingly whiff. Why do you ask?
>>18706849>Becky Derangement Syndrome is the most devastating mental illness in the IWC.
>>18707144Becky was out of position
>>18707469yeah you did see nikki whiff after becky ran away for no reason
Nia Jacks punched her to hard, redditors thought she looked hecking bad ass with a broken nose, and now we're stuck with this bitch forever I guess.
>>18706806
>>18707274and yet for some reason they are putting the women's title on Lyra, that's who Vaquer's opponent is going to be
>>18707809>e-drones watch this
There's like a dozen women in AEW that are unironically better than Becky Lynch. Most overrated wrestler in the world.
>>18706806This cunt sucks. Fuck off and raise your kid.
>>18707809>>18707837Much better than AEW, right Shit-swallowerbros?
>>18706806Nikki's ass looked so good and Becky is a stick
>>18706958GLARK GLARK GLARK GLARK GLARK
>>18706806“1 Star” Becky
>The fourth man of the Vision is... THE MAN!God I'm getting sick of Becky and Seth.
Nikki just came back. Any good reason to feed her to this stupid cunt? She couldn't win the secondary title?
>>18709242I have no idea why Becky is being stuck with the intercontinental now that Lyra isn't involved anymore. Lyra should have won it back at summerslam.
The Lyrafag is weird and won't let go that Valkyrie was buried>mfw ya seetheBecky too based
Hopefully some AAA luchadora stiffs Becko
>>18709562I don't like Lyra, I just would rather she have it over Becky hogging the title for the midcard bitches.
>>18709563Oh yeah also unironically no one cares about Lyra forgot to say that, Vaquer should have won the IC title but she was too good for that division
>>18706806lyra didn’t win because she couldn’t get over; if she won the state of the IC title would have reverted to how it was pre-becky. it would have meant nothing, like the US title. becky can’t help that her dimeless child sucks.
>>18709582Lyra gets massive cheers
>>18709582Lyra was more over than anyone in Dublin
>>18706806>Lyra forced & delegated to Main EventAtleast we can count on you for being a viewer
>>18709660>Lyra gets massive cheerskek
>>18707682She did that intentionally, seff pulled this shit before to bury others, as haitch used to do.>>18709309Because SHE GOT THE DAMN WOMEN'S DIVISION BOOKING AND CREATIVE CONTROL SINCE JANUARY WHEN WWE HAD THEIR YEARLY INTERNAL SHAKEUP.SAME PERIOD SEFF GOT HIS SHITTY BOOKING TOO TO MAKE THIS FAGGOT ASS ZETSY BLOODLINE FACTION.She never wanted Lyra or others to go up, she as seff has the same mentality as haitch, bury others they dont like, make them look like the best heel face shit ever and ignoring the low pop and dimes.If this was under Vince, He would had screwed them the same way he did to Ronda Rousey and fucking Bret live on PPV to teach them a lesson.But Haitch is a faggot still butthurt over the entire curtain call til this day, and buried even his former kliq partners to put himself on top.People are too stupid to believe that the entire female's locker room is love and peace towards her.
>>18709784All the Horsewomen have done shit like this to the so called "diva" wrestlers. Becky fucked over Liv so many times
>>18706806I don't like Becko, but the heavy-lifting that she's doing with the IC title is undeniablecomparing it to the US title makes the work she's done so far even more impressive, since Giulia couldn't even get booked at Summerslam (a 2-night event, at that) and the title is rarely defended at PLE's.
>>18709857Becky books herself on TV every week and on every PPV. Guilia doesn't have the power to force herself on everybody
>>18709890Exactly, and this is the same shit Ric Flair, JJ and Haitch loved to do thanks to booking and CC, to take other people's time to put themselves.
>>18709890that's true, no way in hell a women's midcard match would've gotten 20 minutes in a PLE if Becky wasn't involved in itI just don't think that's necessarily a bad thing, other than she overexposing herself
>>18709660kek maybe in her home town
She's worse than Charlotte now. Charlotte came back and put Stratton over at WM and then is doing tag stuff with Bliss and just jobbed to Piper Nevin.Becky came back won the tag titles same night, dropped them and turned heel, then buried Lyra and took the IC title and now the IC title is the most featured women's title and I don't think she's jobbed once since returning
>>18709922Anon, is shit like this that hurts a division hard.Is shit like this that killed even wrestling during misawa and the four pillars reign of terror when he booked himself to be champion for years straight to shit on new talent and said talent fucked off to other promos.>>18709930And there is a 100% chance she is going after Tiffany's belt so she and Seff shares it again, because it is obvious that the moment Cody drops the belt, Seff is instantly stealing it and passing his belt to Bron, so He and Becky gets "matching belts" til WM or worse, Summerslam.
>>18709857That's more on the booking since they haven't given Guila shit to do since winning it. And before that it was fucking Zelina Vega who's complete shit.
>>18709992Zelina is getting released too anon.no one wants that botching injure wig dimeless sashit there
>>18706806>Match so trash the eurofags are completely silentNaomi getting pregnant really fucked their plans if this is the best they could replace it with huh
How in the fuck did they settle on Becky and Nikki over Dom and AJ, especially after the way the frogs got hyped the last time AJ was there.
>>18709930>Becky came back won the tag titles same night,By pinning Liv. Not even pinning Raqueletty. Becky had to bury Liv again
>>18707812are they? she wasnt even in her hometown shows
>>18710048Come to think of it, this was the first sign she got what anons were mentioning here due to how retarded the entire thing felt.TKO should pardon Ronda Housey>>18710033Obviously it was Seff and her who wanted this.Mainly because Seff has a beef against Styles and Dom, and Becky hates Liv and Dom.
>>18709660this does not happen
DA MAN
>>18706849>in the IWCShe was main eventing RAW in front of tarps in 2019, you simp faggot. No one has ever cared about Bex.
>>18710121Jesus Christ she's so fucking ugly.
>>18707847the best aew women is toni storm and she is at becky's level more or less, both suck compared to the average NXT midcarder
>>18710094If Ronda Ever comes back, she wont be breaking her nose like last time.
>>18710154i would trade becky a million times over for big dimes toni to come back
>>18710154Bayne, Hayter, Willow, Statlander, Mercedes, Athena are all better than Becky/Toni Storm.
>>18709930> Charlotte came back and put Stratton over at WMSpeaking of, I thought it was fucking insane how everyone thought Charlotte was going over as soon as she won the RR, as if that wasn't the entire reason they had her win it. It was obvious she was passing the torch to Tiffy.Becky, meanwhile, randomly booked herself to go over Tiffy because she was the only Horseface to have not won the NXT title.
>>18710033Makes it even weirder that the Bella's are such an American entertainment media slop creation, having her match outside the United States it's certainly an odd decision as the Bella niche doesn't really translate outside the US
>>18710033Because Becky Hogan wants to bury people
>>18708706>GLARK GLARK GLARK GLARK GLARK >>18707809
becky is the best women wrestler owns mid morgan,rhea,naomi
>>18706806i am earnestly starting to believe the "becky has creative control" conspiracy theory.i doubt she books the entire women's roster. i would be surprised if she's doing smackdown, the tag scene or the raw women's uppercard. but as time goes on, the more convinced i am that she at least books herself, and perhaps the rest of the raw midcard or intercontinental scene.
>>18710190Hogan would never bury people.Who buried people was Ric Flair and Triple H.
>>18710216Doesn't pretty much anyone who's a big enough name get to be picky with what they get?
>>18710216Remember the "No one respects me or seff" form early this year, after that the shitty faction of seff, and her burying of female wrestlers began.>>18710243She and Seff are Haitch's nepobabies.
>>18710190I still think it's pretty funny how Becky got so butthurt over the Hogan remarks, even coming out in red and yellow gear the raw after she whined about it to try and have a gottem.
>>18710243depends how you define "big enough." imo becky lynch in 2025 is not a big enough name to be given that privilege. maybe in 2019, when she was at the top (but WWE was at its nadir). but i think only like brock, roman or cena would be able to pick and choose like that today. becky is nowhere near their level these days, i don't think she ever was even back in 2019.
>>18710216>i am earnestly starting to believe the "becky has creative control" conspiracy theory.It was literally reported before she left last time. Anons didn't make it up
>>18710243They can argue over shit unlike say Penta who just has to shut up and take what he gets. But Becky is seemingly just out to bury the midcarders on Raw, she's gotta have something more then just the privilege of being a top name.
>>18710216>i am earnestly starting to believe the "becky has creative control" conspiracy theoryStop peddling this "creative control" horseshit. For thirty fucking years smarks push this term simply because Hogan had it in his WCW contract. And only once was it ever an issue because Russo tried to fuck him over.Every single top guy in any promotion ever has always had the ability to be picky with their booking. They leverage their position and politic themselves into favorable programs.This is what Becky is doing now. She does not have creative control. What she does have is tenure, a perceived importance within the company, favor with Paul, and a husband who also has those three.
>>18710252Yet hulk hogan never buried anyone, her is the same way Flair used to do at WCW when he became the booker, and trips when steph created the reign of terror and he went to bury even scott steiner.>>18710258Who carried her in 2019 was Ronda Rousey, Charles, Bliss and Nia Jax.
>>18710258She's also Seth's wife, and Seth is HHH's golden boy. But in general yeah, you'd have to be on that kind of level to get to be that picky normally.
>>18710271i love nia but i will never be able to forgive her for creating the mancharles needs to put this fenian back in her place
>>18710270yes, they leverage their position into getting creative control. that's not a crazy thing. it happens everywhere.
>>18710270Hogan NEVER Buried any wrestler even with "that doesn't work for me, brother" all because unlike other wrestlers, he knew the damn crowd well, and many of the retarded descisions WCW writers were doing at that time backfired badly, nWo should had died in starcade 97 but what their writers did as a certain slimeball who painted his hair black all times? they extended it, damaged hogan and others careers hard, buried the cruiserweight division, had the steiners buttrape people on the locker room, and began losing viewers to ECW and Mainly WWF under Austin, Shawn and Taker carrying the fed in their backs.>>18710310He doesn't believe that when a wrestler has a closer relationship with the higher ups, they wouldn't book the entire division or matches.and that happened at WCW since a certain individual/individuals were literally fucking and creaming inside a higher up at turner television to get more power at the promo, and she was one of the higher ups even at hollywood too, hence the wcw movie's existence.
>>18710258I guarantee you there's people within management at WWE who think Becky is a star because of her push back then. I've even seen wrestlers outside the company proclaim that she is as well, so it's 100% believed. They're just ignoring that it's begging the question. She never deserved the push to begin with. She's only over in their minds because she was booked to be, and that a segment of the audience will always cheer for the main event alumni.They just ignore that she was wrestling in front of tarps. And that no one wanted to see their retarded women's evolution back then.Which is completely backed up by Evolution 2 recently. The only reason they were able to run a decently successful follow up is because the company is hotter, and because of the NXT roster hard carrying the company's women's division. They still failed to realize that no one wanted to see old fucking divas or the horsefaces or the other staples of those mid-to-late 2010s. They never fucking drew in the first place. It's literally only just now that they have some women who can draw. And Bex is NOT one of them.But this is what they believe, and it doesn't help that her husband is a golden child within the company who also politics to fuck.
>>18710359Becky became a "star" because Nia busted her open hardway. Nobody gave a fuck about her in the 6 years she was there before that.
>>18710310Tony let's all his top talent book their shit. That doesn't mean Toni has creative control. If TK wanted to book her in a "fuck Toni Storm match" he could, but he chooses not to. She doesn't have some magical clause staying otherwise, I promise you.
>>18710167if they were better why are them all jobbers that barely get show time in aew ?
>>18710377>he believes that.>in a industry where >>18710346 happened and is known.I hope no one ever tells you that JJ was fucking the TNA chick and cheatin on his wife but also Kurt.
>>18710374And nobody gave a fuck at the time either, which is anon's point. Becky doing her Stone Cold LARP, acting like a cunt, did nothing to improve attendance, ratings, nor the profile of the company. She probably sold more shirts for herself, but the only thing she did prove is why she should never main event ever again.
>>18710310>Toni lays her shit out .. like an agent So that's why Athena v Toni sucked and days later Athena v Mina was superior
How much of Becky's push is because Hunter loves Seth and Becky is the one taking Seth's dick?
>>18710397he probably also loves becky but that could be influenced by his love of seth
>>18710386wtf are you trying to say?JJ owned tna of course he had creative control
>>18710310that's why all toni's matches are shit
>>18710391Worse, she still tries to copy Austin, but AUSTIN has a charisma, is a good actor and va, and it is a funny person when he wants to.He is always ready to make fun of himself for the company or fans or even for shits and giggles.Becky would NEVER do that because her irl ego wont permit, even her gilmore stuff was terrible, she is literally a fucking mark and smark for herself and her fucking husband.>>18710397>>18710407Is shit like this that makes Vince even more right on the screwjob and WM where shawn lost to austin.Haitch will never do the hard decisions because he is still butthurt over the Curtain Call and too emotional to be a promo boss.Even Shane-O would instantly do what Vince does if the public and the locker room had enough.
>>18709832Liv is terrible just like Nikki
>>18710431And Becky can't wrestle for shit.
>>18710359>I guarantee you there's people within management at WWE who think Becky is a starnot that long ago when they advertised her appearing on nxt to wrestle tiff the ratings increased thoughbecky = a draw
>>18710427The problem is that Vince got too autistic with his plans and would listen to the wrong people. Don't forget, he's the one who booked Seff and Becky and Kofi to all go over at the same WM to begin with. He's the one that was booking shit in such a dire way.Though I do think you're right that Paul's major deficiency lies here. I think, having been one of the boys, he's too giving in some respects. It's why RAW and Smackdown aren't paced as well as NXT. Despite being longer shows, or when they were longer, he'd still give talent shit like 20 min promos because that's what he wanted when he was active. He doesn't know where to make cuts on the card easily, or howto spread time out more.
>>18706806She is Overrated fraid so
>>18710448>demoStick to Dynamite cope threads.Also, thanks for ignoring her entire run where she'd main event RAW every single week to find a singular data point.
>>18710460not just the demo but the ratings themselves peaked at over a milly. but you can believe whatever you want to believe. fact is she was advertised for nxt and her appearance drew in viewers
>>18710397100%. They're Paul's Adam Cole and Britt Baker.
>>18710482what else happened on the one she appeared on?
>>18710489>actually thinks i have autism and can remember everything from a 2 year old episode of nxtthe headline i posted agrees that it was big time becks appearance that drew the viewers to that episode
>>18710448>nxt
>>18710489In fairness, it was an average episode of NXT. It was a hotshot title match for Becky, but average otherwise. It was like, a 6-man tag, Ilja's step towards winning the title, a Creed Brothers match, etc. The milly he's referencing was in the overrun.He's being disingenuous though. Since it didn't sustain at all during her reign, ratings were pretty much back to their normal range. And he's relying purely on a single title match for this reign.
>>18706806lyra hogkyria is even worse to be fair
>>187086971 is better than 0, yes.
anyways
>>18710451He did that because it was obvious that Trips cried to him to give a push to both.Most of vince's decisions prior to him leaving, were obviously influenced by hunter, rock and steph, this is also the period the likes of big show and others came up saying that they weren't happy with the company anymore, which also fits with trips and rock's rise to power backstage before the kung flu.I still believe that there was a ego tug of war of incompetence trying to get Influence at vince at that time under him and rock.many of the bad descisions as the samoan shitshow obviously came from both, and when the janel shit suddenly happened, it went off rails because both tried to get full control of the company's decisions when the likes of Shawn stood with NXT and began working on fixing that boat.
>>18710216Becky>always gets a reaction>is perceived as a star, quarters actually back this up (>>18710448)>knows how to sell herself and comes up with shit to do, which both Vince and Paul like>is married to one of the top stars, which gives her extra swayIt's not that she's going 90s Hogan and rewriting shows, it's more likely that she goes to Paul with ideas and he agrees because they, A: seem good, and B: don't disrupt major plans. Essentially she's given the ball to get the women's midcard rolling and give the IC title some prestige, and she's actually doing so. What's the issue? Compare it to the US title, which has been in complete nirvana since Chelsea dropped it, and it's night and day.>b-b-b-but maybe they should book it moreWell yeah, but that's hardly Becky's fault.
>>18710397>>18710427Vince loved Becky you fucking marks. He cried when she said she was pregnant. He's the one who made her double champ in the fucking WM main event gave her a 500 day long reign in the first place
>>18710584>>is perceived as a star, quarters actually back this up>nxt
>>18710584did you not see becky when she was nxt champion that was terrible
>>18710584>quarters actually back this upThey do not, actually. Her main events tanked RAW whenever she used to be on. Attendance was also down during her reign. You say she knows how to sell herself, but she gets more screentime that guys that consistently outdraw her in merch sales.>Well yeah, but that's hardly Becky's faultThe buck ultimately stops with the booker, but she can also politic for more time.
>>18710537>The milly he's referencing was in the overrun.still a milly though and the highest ratings in years>He's being disingenuous thoughbut i wasnt. i was pointing out that when they advertised becky to appear on nxt she actually did increase the ratings. im not even a fan of female wrestling. some people in this thread are acting like becky doesnt have any star power but the ratings for that advertised appearance says otherwise. no other main roster advertised star has increased nxts ratings as much as she did that time so...
Why didn't Becky come out?
>>18710623>im not even a fan of female wrestling.Shut the fuck up, hogcrip
>>18710635kek he seethed
>>18710623Yes, Becky drew one of the highest 8 min in NXT in the overrun during her hotshotted title match. Ratings then returned to normal, thus proving she's not a sustainable draw. She is not a proven attraction beyond that singular point. Again, if you want to point to history, look at all the shit that went down during her various runs in the company.
>>18710138the tarps were there before her for years though, why would you leave that detail out?
>>18710675Did the tarps magically go away during her run? No? That's because she couldn't draw.
>>18710675you know all things told cena and orton have only wrestled like 20 something times
>>18710482congrats she drew a milly. that is embarrassingly low for a wwe star
>>18710651>confirms his identityEvery time.
>>18710656people wanted tiffany squashing her ass
>>18710699a milly on NXT is more than the Rock can usually draw nowadays but go off
>>18710707>but go offholy gay
>>18710707When was the last time Rock had a match on NXT for a title?
>>18710705schizo headcanon
>>18710716She wasn't advertised as having a match.
>>18710728that is you thinking that becky is great pigwheels
>>18710741Another miss, I'm not your boogeyman.
>>18710738She literally challenged her to the title match the week prior after Tiffy had a successful title defense, you lying queer.
>>18710707
>>18710216She might not have absolute control but she's allowed heavy input. I remember in 2022 when she got taken out at Summerslam and was out for a few months and came back the night before War Games and then got the pin. Gaytch said that she pitched/booked the finish to the match, which obviously her getting the pin
>>18706806>SHE FUCKING SUCKSTrue>Literally no reason why Lyra didn't beat this shitterLyra is still worse
>>18710270>Every single top guy in any promotion ever has always had the ability to be picky with their bookingNo they really don't. Becky's booking is different you can see she books everything she does. I've never seen someone like cena do that and he would have a much better claim to influence
>>18710448>not that long agoit was 2 years ago >becky = drawshe killed ratings when they tried to push her as the face of the company, her going to nxt was just showing that she has simps that don't watch nxt. for nielsen ratings, 1 actual person = 5000 viewers for nielsen ratings So basically it meant 40 beko fans with nielsen boxes watched nxt because she was on.
>>18706806Nah you know what? Fuck that. Lyra had countless opportunities to gain aura but she blew them all.
>>18711264Who blew them all was Becky writing her.Back at NXT with Shawn Michaels, Lyra was fine.And now the schizos and conspiracy theories were proven right.
>>18711264lyra was fine by herself till becky came back and took bayley's spot and now you're getting schizo bayley vignettes lmfaooo
>>18706806Lyra should have helped Nikki win and then immediately double crossed her to get herself another title shot. But hey I'm not the booker
>>18706806I don’t get why she’s stuck with the shitty midcard belt. She needs to start fueding with Iyo, Rhea etc for the real shit
>>18711298the IC title scene before becky came back was nothing. lyra having ice cold bangeroonis with dakota kai and ivy nile was nothing. becky gave the title prestige and lyra flopped.
>>18711582Yeah I think that’s their plan. Have Becky hype it up like Gunther and when she finally drops it, she moves to the upper card permanently.
>>18710010You sure? They just brought back Aleister not that long ago, probably because of his wife.
>>18711186>she killed ratings when they tried to push her as the face of the companyhonestly what wrestler when given the top belt and made the face of the company in the last 10yrs hasnt? roman didnt set the ratings box on fire neither has any one single person. when do you people consider someone a draw? merch sales or youtube vids? honestly what other women in the wwe is a bigger draw than becky? you really think if they gave the belt to bayleno now or rousey years ago like they did that ratings would have skyrocketed?
>>18711952>honestly what other women in the wwe is a bigger draw than becky?have you heard of "rhea ripley"
>>18711963>have you heard of "rhea ripley"heres this huge draw i was telling you about!
>Pigtits Hogwheel hates Rhea too
>>18711184>had the abilityBeing the operative phrase. Some guys used it more than others. Cena, famously, never did. But Stone Cold, for example, said he'd constantly shoot down ideas towards the end of his run.
>>18712006>looking tired and selling the effects of a match is badStop watching wrestling
>>18712881Kek what a white knight
>>18712881>becky has never looked like this after a matchthe difference between a real star and a paper champion like rhea who gets pushed because triple h has a thing for trannies
>>18712902nah I'm just tired of smarks bitching about the most retarded shit like a women wrestler is bad because she looked rough after a match. Like I'm fine with critiquing people and calling out shitters but that's just fucking retarded. I hate Punk but I think people are retarded for saying he looks bad when clearly selling too.
>>18712905>>becky has never looked like this after a matchyea she looks worse
