>>18709975
Middle manager. We'll be replaced before the end of the year most likely

>>18709975
Not at all. There hasn't been a single good storyline/promo this year. Best moments have been wrestlers doing stuff themselves

>>18709975
No he's fucking terrible
The shows are boring as shit.
They abandoned the Cena heel turn on TV and broke the 4th wall to do it.

Under Vince, none of this would happen.
And Shawn Michaels is the only one keeping that spirit alive, since NXT keeps selling a lot under him.

He's very hit and miss. HBK is better and should be in charge

cena just confirmed he's not faces aj lol what a shit booker

No but he is not the worse. TNA has the worse booking this year.

He's not bad in general but he's awful at seizing and exploiting momentum
He has a hard time improvising when wrestlers get hurt, and he really has a hard time properly keeping wrestlers who get over on the right track
Either he cools them down and shelves them for no good reason or he goes all in world title and PLE win and main events and whatnot on guys who are not ready rather than keeping them in hot feuds lower on the card instead (or is told to do it, like for yeetman)
Speaking of hot feuds, where are they?
It doesn't help that Nick Khan seems to regularly butt in to ask him to hotshot this or that PPV and give his celebrity friends a paycheck
Other problem, as outlined in Unreal, is that they have a million failed hollywood writers and those guys suck
They should be fired and their shitty scripted wannabe sitcom segments scrapped from existence
Then we can worry about the booking

>>18709975
Bo he hasn't made a star or had a satisfying storyline

No, but there hasn't been a good wrestling booker since Vince in 97-98. Everything past that has been retarded shock reaction attempts, and social trend pandering.
The two worst things about Triple Paul's booking are that his storylines make absolutely no sense if you actually think them out and view the people involved as actual humans instead of TV characters, and his insane fear of making anyone look weak which results in constant 3-4 way matches and fuck finishes.

He was, but he's been bad this year.

>>18710050
97-98 WWE was some serious quality television and it’s mind boggling to think the medium could have ever reached those peaks storytelling wise, what the heck was the secret?

>>18710088
Russo and Ferrera's attention grabbing retardation filtered through Vince's business savvy, and JR, Cornette, Prichard, and Patterson's experience. Which was then executed by a roster full of territory veterans who had figured everything out and a few younger natural talents for the business like Rock or Angle.

>>18710088
Quality is always better when you're chasing the top, rather than being on top.

>>18710088
Vince was "locked tf in", as the kids say. Lil bro was fighting for his life

>>18709975
He coasted off of everything Vince created and hasn't had a single good idea of his own since

>>18710088
is 97-98 Raw on Netflix yet?

hhh cannot make new stars
and when a young star gets hot he does nothing to capitalize on it

>>18710354
He isn't Shawn Michaels, Shawn is doing that at NXT, Trips is repeating the same retarded mistakes WCW did, same errors AEW is also doing by fucking over the new talent.

every time I see his face I ust think about
>take a bump

>>18709975
He has sucked since he took over. All he cares about is return/surprise/debut pops and eating up TV time with 10+ minute matches.

>>18710088
Vince was fighting for the existence of his company. WCW absolutely kicked their ass throughout the most of 1996 and Vince knew 1997 needed to be good to get their audience back.
Backstage it was the perfect combination of Vince, Ross, Patterson, Russo and Cornette working together to put the best possible story out.
What helped for Vince is that the seeds sowed in 1996 finally sprouted in 1997. Austin's rise to the main event, Bret's descent into darkness, Bearer's heel turn starting the slow burn debut of Kane, Mankind slowly turning babyface and introducing the three faces, Triple H gets put out of the doghouse and finally gets more of a push, Rocky Maivia turns heel and slowly becomes The Rock.
Vince's full-on focus on making sure the main event delivered was also strong. Everything about 1997's main event felt unpredictable, wild and exciting. RAW genuinely felt like an asylum where the inmates ran wild and everyone wanted to kill each other, but unlike WCW, Vince held the tightest of ships.
Add that the solidified main event going into 1998 got improved by Russo's great way of re-inventing most of the midcard to make the entire card entertaining.

1997 WWF was the best year creatively because Vince was backed into a corner and had to be smart.

>>18709975
Fuck no

kinda of crazy how many stars vince made and hhh has made none

>>18709979
This. I see him getting one more year till Gerwitz or Heyman weasel their way to being the main booker. Yjk, they're kissing the right ass, as we speak

remember pg era when the midcard feud would be some random shit like kofi kingston vs jack swagger? thats what every feud feels like now. actualy no kofi vs swagger would actually have some build nowadays there is no reason to watch its just stuff happening for the sake of happening. every episode feels like it is the christmas special episode when they dont bother booking storylines because they know nobody is watching. even the ppvs are shit now with random filler shit like roman vs bronson reed why the fuck would i want to watch that? sheamus vs rusev ok i like sheamus but why the fuck is this on ppv. i know why because they want want to actually make stars. the only wrestler who appears on every ppv and gets a consistent spotlight is fucking becky lynch.

>>18710500
i feel the opposite. it seems like the feuds aren't random shit, they're stale. feuds are dragged on for literal years. this is one of his biggest weaknesses as a booker - he never knows when to let shit rest and move on, he extends everything past when he should end it, his booking moves at a glacial pace, and he's too scared to try mixing it up with some new and novel matchups. punk and rollins have been feuding for 2 years straight. roman and rollins have been feuding since the dawn of man.

>>18710343
That’s a great question last time I checked they only had a few episodes but I think all of the attitude era should be on there up until the invasion or Summerslam 01 I believe

>>18710510
this seth vs punk feud is going on two years now

>>18710438
They say you see a man’s true character when he’s on the brink of death, shame we never really got to see Vince on that level creatively again- Austin vs McMahon at St Valentines Massacre is still my favorite wrestling finish of all time, actual Shakespearean stuff- that whole run from the rumble to Mania was just insanely good

I think TKO shares some blame for how things go. Its not HHH's choice to have these 5/6 match shows I don't think. He has less power than most bookers ever had. All that said, he could definitely do better. Perhaps the fumbled Cena heel run was some political play against Rock but it was still trash and will go down as an all time worst heel turn.

>>18709975
Absolutely not. He has pretty much made the slop meme a reality.

>>18710546
>Its not HHH's choice to have these 5/6 match shows
I guess you never watched Triple H era NXT

>>18710528
based. I'm gonna watch that. WWE is truly dead now.

He’s the M Night Shamalan of bookers. Has to rely on some “twist” or “surprise” to sell his slop.

>Has to stick to the plan even when injuries and freak things happen
>Signs all the competition's newly made free agents like a mark
>Works himself into a shoot over the other side
>Half the roster gets benched and cools off, detrimental to making money and stars
>Too many titles
>Can only book for the pop; returns and debuts
>Shouldn't be booking but is
>Too fixated on the IWC

Who did I describe? Tony Khan or HHH?

>>18710438
And Haitch never learned anything from that.
Who learned all of that and knew to work from that was Shawn Michaels and Austin.

>>18710510
I think my point still applies since the feud wouldnt need to be dragged out that long unless they did random swerves like rollins heel turn at mania and the fake injury. maybe random isnt the right word what Im talking about is more like filler. but back in the day when there were filler matches you would at least get a good pay off at the end. nowadays the filler goes nowhere. like where are they going with roman exactly? why is he feuding with sneed over some shoes lmao. do you get what I mean?

>>18709975
Who booked Cena’s heel turn?

>>18710593
Roman is pretty obvious I feel. He is facing Rollins at WM to finally end their story.

>>18710596
Obviously Cena didn't want, but Rock and Haitch wanted, Rock because he wanted to bury John before he retired, and Haitch to obviously push Seff.
But since the plans failed, they had to eat dry and accept defeat.
If anything, Cody and Cena carried all of this in their backs.

>>18710619
>1 more year of seff faggotry because of bloodline shield shit
Urhhhhhhhhhh

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>>18710577
what a tweest!

>>18710578
TK based on the last item and 4th item

>>18710546
>Its not HHH's choice to have these 5/6 match shows I don't think
almost every NXT takeover was 5 matches
TKO is probably forcing the 2 night mania/summerslams (rumble and SS and MITB and maybe chamber coming soon) but he is definitely responsible for the adam cole sized cards on PPVs

>>18710627
Wrong, it was both. HHH wants the IWC approval too and signs all their yummy shitters. The R-Truth backlash is further proof, re-hiring the guy because people got upset Truth was gone.

>>18710593
sort of? roman and sneed having a match makes complete sense though, there could be a better example out there.

>>18710639
i agree

>>18710639
HHH is a HUGE smark i really don’t know how people don’t get this. when he got to book his toy fed he made johnny gargano his guy ffs. he is on twitter reading all the criticism and crying over it. he desperately wants to be over with smarks. he knows his in-ring career won’t be looked back on fondly, despite wanting it to be (he’s a workrate midget trapped in a sports entertainment body afraid so), so this is all he has.

>>18710646
Does it?

>>18710680
roman and seth are feuding so roman is taking on the lowest ranking member of seth’s stable, one who has personally wronged him by stealing his shoes, to eventually work his way up to seth and take his belt - this also allows bronson reed to look strong even in defeat and build him up as well. nothing weird or confusing or random about this one.

>>18710671
That is true but it is not just "smarks." He pushes who twitter dykes like too. He is addicted to social media approval in general and has admitted to looking at it during shows to see what people are saying.

Paul was crying about tiff shooting on charlotte, dude sucks

>>18710711
why would roman who has champion for 4 years give a fuck about beating bronson reed? its retarded. He should laugh and say he isnt showing up unless he gets a title match. hell he never got a rematch against cody, he already said seths belt is worthless a year ago.

>>18710726
it's literally part of MyGM mode in the games lol. if you've ever played MyGM mode in a 2k game, look at how H books and tell me it's not identical.

He is an extremely conservative booker, which is much needed if WWE is ever going to stabilize their viewership.
They have had a monopoly for over 2 decades. It's time to slow things down and retrain fans to not expect twists and turns and crazy spots. We need to go back to when women and children cried when their hero was put in a headlock.

>>18709975
It's weird cause his first couple of years in charge were fucking great. I skipped several years around 2017 and came back for Clash at the Castle (2022). From then up to Wrestlemania 40 was gold. Some of the weekly TV was crap but the PLEs were excellent month after month, new stars were made, production changes, exciting and dynamic storylines, really felt like we were on the verge of something. Then as soon as Wrestlemania 40 finished and Cody won the belt, everything just stagnated and turned into boring old shit, like 2012 levels of bad. Nothin happening, storylines going on forever and ever with no direction, stars sinking to the midcard with no new ones being made, people getting buried for no reason, the Nu Bloodline, every week being repetitive shit (especially on Smackdown) filled with a cookie cutter format, the same promos, the same setups, loads of bloat and padding like they knew they had to fill 3 hours but forgot to actually write any content for it.

No idea what the fuck happened because WWE went from the best and most consistent it's been in over a decade to stale old shit almost overnight.

>>18710944
Yeah it's strange I noticed the same thing. The netflix debut also seemed to make things worse. 2022 and 2023 were mostly good. 2024 was mid. 2025 has been terrible. It's really strange. The only thing I can think is TKO told him to focus more on the surprises and shit? but I dont see how it hurts their bottom line to make the show good surely they want every show to feel unmissable so they can get the FOMO money.

>>18710944
vince left over storylines carried him, current stories are all him and theyre awful

>>18710088
it was breaking taboos that still existed in wrestling on tv, that's literally it.That's why it can't be recaptured. ECW was already doing, and then Russo got the green light to do the same shit. It wasn't genius, it was vibes of the time and place, that's why most of it sucks on rewatch

>>18711002
>The netflix debut also seemed to make things worse
I don't watch WWE cause I'm not a little kid, but I heard that first netflix show was more a victory lap for getting the netflix deal than a wrestling show. Like all their top guys did a promo about how great it is to be on netflix instead saying anything to want to see a match.

>>18711043
>that first netflix show was more a victory lap for getting the netflix deal than a wrestling show. Like all their top guys did a promo about how great it is to be on netflix instead saying anything to want to see a match.
Pretty much exactly that. Instead of booking it like a season premiere that hooks in the new viewers and forces them to keep watching they booked a congratulatory award show basically which was exciting for nobody except the executives in attendance.

There has never been and never will be an actually good wrestling tv story that more or less wrapped up with a graceful ending than the Megapowers explode and Savage's redemption leading to marrying Liz, getting the titled again and then just kind of fading away and then announcing the divorce in WWE magazine.

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I am an LA Knight truther, so no. I genuinely thought tonight would be the one. I am a fool.

>>18710944
The pieces were already set for Paul by Summerslam 2022. All WWE needed at the time was somebody who wasn't retarded and senile like Vince was. Sami as the Bloodline's comic relief was gold. He leaves and becomes boring. Jey and Jimmy genuinely were interesting sidekicks in the Bloodline. Jey goes on his own path and becomes insufferable. Roman as the Tribal Chief was an excellent character for wrestling standards. He loses the belt and he lost all aura. Cody had the whole coming back to WWE, family history of being humiliated, and essentially a pre-made decades in the making storyline for winning the title. He wins the title and then no one cares because he has no more character. What we're seeing now is the true ability of HHH to book a wrestling show, and he fucking sucks.

He's the GOAT. Tina wishes he was half as good as HHH

>>18709975
He's not a booker nor a T, suckah.
>>18709979
>We'll
Rip anon

>>18709975
He was when he had autonomy. Black and Gold NXT was unironically the best promotion of the 2010s and his run in the first post-Vince era was great. Unfortunately he's now stuck sucking private equity cock so nothing substantive matters anymore it's all about the heckin social media engagement and other metrics that no one should actually care about. You can just look at the UFC which started sucking the same private equity cock WWE does a couple years before.
Instead of making matches based on merit or at least what would get fans hyped they kept making retarded rematches no one cares about because "that's what people wanted to see" completely ignoring the fact that being champion created an artificial bump in social media metrics that doesn't continue after they lose the belt and since they do most of their business via streaming cost cutting by any means necessary destroyed their weekly shows to the point that only turboautistic mf'ers like myself with nothing else to live for would watch them.

Tl;dr: Jews are ruining everything you love but not like /pol/ thinks

>>18710785
sneed took his shoes and is taunting him by wearing them, making roman look like a bitch. roman took his shoes back after the match so he clearly cares about that. and he is the first step towards seth, where its not really about the belt but about hurting his eternal rival.
roman shouldn't have buried the WHC like that but why would he do anything other than go for cody then? if they booked cody roman 3, they can't have roman go over because they want cody with the belt, they can't have roman lose clean because it'll cement cody as the top dog, they can't have him lose dirty because then cody roman 4 has to happen and the same problems emerge.
under your reasoning they booked themselves into a corner and it's acceptable that he do something else as a soft reset.

>>18709975
I refuse to watch WWE until this faggot dies or it's fired. That's my opinion on Triple Cuck as a booker

>>18709975
For all his big talk about ''only me and shawn and a couple of old timers actually get it'', he really doesn't get what makes a good wrestling show.
>>18711567
black and gold was only based when dusty and ryan ward were handling things. from 2017 onwards it became the ''hottest free agent'' extravaganza. nobody gave a shit about the weekly shows for a very good reason.
hhh and tk are two sides of the same tasteless indieriffic coin. save us shawn.

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>>18709975
Very hit or miss, he's also very clearly self-conscious when people don't like his booking. I'd say another part of the praise he gets is because of just how bad his competition is in comparison

>>18710577
M. night is a much better than his meme reputation would entail. He's got a great sense for tone and atmosphere, and the themes of his movies are pretty interesting regardless of the actual twist. His most basic movies were The Visit and The Last Airbender, but everything else is pretty cool, including the ever underrated Village. The Happening was a throwback to overly naive 50s b-movies, I don't know how that went over everyone's heads at the time.

>>18711567
black and gold was smark shit

>>18710438
Based 97 enjoyer. The greatest year in pro wrestling history. Ahmed Johnson was the man.

>>18710050
Gabe Sapolsky's early ROH run up until 2006 is pretty damn good

>>18709975
He’s fine. He probably has do book matches and storylines he doesn’t really want to because he has to answer to the whims of the higher ups who are only interested in maximizing profits. To his credit, he’s built up credible main eventers since Vince left and is willing to give dudes a shot at the top, even if it doesn’t always work out immediately, like with Jey. He’s also more considerate of continuity, regularly referencing past feuds and relationships between wrestlers.

People glaze Shawn’s booking but TKO doesn’t give a shit about NXT other than getting wrestlers ready for the big time, so he can actually put together proper feuds and build up matches without having to stick in Travis Scott or Jelly Roll matches, or completely rebook entire storylines just because Dwayne decided he wanted to show up that week.

On the flip side, he does drop the ball in certain areas: Cena’s heel turn was a wash when it should have been an easy story, even with the Rock fucking off, tag team booking is a foreign concept to this dude, he really doesn’t like supernatural gimmicks like Wyatt but flip flops constantly on whether to feature them or not, and his booking of women has been hot and cold. He also really doesn’t take criticism well, although his ego doesn’t usually get in the way of him course correcting when needed.

I’d say if business ever starts to nosedive and he get the boot in favor of some brown nosing exec with no wrestling experience, people will realize he wasn’t all that bad.

Fuck No

>>18710045
>He's not bad in general but he's awful
im trying to think of anything he has come up with on his own... can anybody point to one angle or heel/face turn that was entirely his idea. we attribute everything to him yet i doubt he has that much say. is the wyatts his idea or uncle howdys? even though vince is gone most of the top guys were created by vince or at least were coming up while he was around like roman, seth, becky, charlotte even cody. none of the guys triple h really likes or hired back after vince fired have gotten over like kross, diy, hit row, dakota and hes actually let many go again. priests title reign was garbage just like iyos last one. he doesnt seem to have any idea what hes doing really. the wwe is so big it almost runs itself. if he was gone tomorrow i doubt the shows would be much different

No. His worst habit is every match now has to go like half an hour or more.

>>18712848
fuck, he got worked by cagematch, didn't he?

>>18712742


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>>18710043
gms you absolute nigger