So no one is gonna post the big blatant miss by Logan during that Cena match?
>>18711882Wrestling is fake
this sport is fake?nobody cares faggotlogan > ospray
>>18711882That looks awfull
>>18711882>>18711895>>18711900Indeed, if it was real, fucker would have punched through the ring with his titanium implanted knuckles.
>>18711882holy grim
>>18711900>nobody cares faggotmost people don't anymore. Nobody watches this shit but, old fat sloppy virgins
>>18711882Just like Cena
>>18711882You have literally never watched Cena deliver a 5 Knuckle Shuffle before, have you?
>>18711882>Camera zooms right in on that shit, just to make sure everybody knowsOh come on, is Dwayne in the production truck?!
>>18711882kevin dunne never would have done that camera cut
>>18712138>because it was always shit, it should still be shitNOOOOOO you can't demanding better quality!
>>18711882Production's fault. Why in God's name would you cut to a close up of his hand?
Paul was just staying true to the move. Better question is why does Cena always miss his? And why doesn't he at least try to touch the opponent's neck during the STF
>>18711882LOLOL LOGAN PAUL IS SUCH A BITCH KEK
>>18712497Cena always grazes their head while doing it. He doesn't lock in the STF because Vince didn't want his top guys doing moves that could suffocate children when they reenact it, which is why the Daniel Bryan necktie thing was such a big deal, even though it was a guy on NXT doing it. The only time Cena locked in the STF on the neck was on Punk during the chamber, probably to foreshadow his heelturn as he was getting more vicious.
>>18712738I've never seen Cena even come close to being close to the opponent's head. And it's a weird motion where he hits them with the outside of his palm? I remember in SVR 2007 him dropping his fist head on. You know, his knuckles.>doesn't lock in the STF because Vince didn't want his top guys doing moves that could suffocate children when they reenact itInteresting. Though as a kid I had no idea it was supposed to be a choke move, I thought it was meant to pull the neck backwards like a crossface. What's up with sleepers and head locks then?
>>18711882Nice job with the cameras, 'ch
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>>18711882How did Production fuck this up when Cena has been doing the move that same way for twenty years. Did they expect Logan to do a shoot shuffle?
>>18712747Yeah, he uses an open palm and grazes around their hairline.Heels can use sleepers and shit, I am guessing because Vince thought they would be imitated less, but at the same time, they don't exactly lock them in to the neck, as evidenced by your pic and many other moves like Rusev where he grabs the chin. It was either Cornette or Pritchard that explained Vince's thinking behind it long ago, and like many Vince-isms, the logic isn'r bulletproof.
>>18712781yeah you can't show that angle
>>18712781Current production guy started when Cena was already off doing other things, but yeah, he does fuk up alot and sometimes it pisses me off and realize Kevin Dunn did do some things well.
>>18712784 >as evidenced by your pic and many other moves like Rusev where he grabs the chin Not that I'm attempting to make sense of Vince's thinking, but a child would not have the wherewithal to squeeze the chin and not the neck. And I thought the point of the accolade/ camel clutch was to bend the back and the neck, not to choke. At any rate, as kids my brothers would hit me with the shoot crippler crossface and it hurt worse than any choke I've ever felt. My Eastern European grandma who would ref couldn't speak English, so when I would finally reach the bed for the rope break, she would shout something like CLASHUM, CLASHUM! instead of "break", and my brother reasoned that he couldn't be DQed for not stopping because the rope break was never called. Fucking asshole
>>18712963Yeah, I used the Crippler / Labell Lock (not sure the difference) in a real fight and it worked. I took the guy to the ground and was in position to put it in so I just did it. More than anything I could feel that fact that I could crank the fuck out of his shoulder and fuck him up there.
>>18712977as far as I could tell, the Benoit crossface just places your arm between the legs for leverage, whereas Bryan's lock bends your shoulder upwards
>>18711882Cena does the same the 60% of the time, but he actually knows how to sell his move. Logan is a spot monkey that only copies moves, that's why his looks botched.
>>18712974Vince was scarred by the Benoit stuff I presume
