Why don't wrestlers look like this anymore?
>>18768916>3 dead guysMaybe there’s a clue
>>18768916plenty of wrestlers look like bitchtits sting
>>18768916Because smarks are running wrestling promotions now a days.
>>18768916I know indoor stadiums have capacity for higher gates so more $$$, but I still wish they'd do more high-production outdoors events these days.
>>18768916Like buddy mathews? cause they're dimeless
>>18768916New wrestlers are on average like 1 ft shorter and 100 pounds lighter than old school wrestlers.
>>18768916Like what, exactly?Wrestlers generally didn't look like Sid or Vader at the time either. We literally have a wrestler today who looks just like Davey Boy Smith, it's his son, he wrestles in Japan. And what does Surfer Sting's look contain that is missing from wrestling today?
>>18768916Or the shock master
>>18769038Pretty cool run I am shocked that AEW pulled off a swan song with such grace, I just can't believe they have not kept up the quality control since then. Did Darby Allen ever make it home from his mountain trip, btw??
>>18768916Because steroids lead to an early grave
>>18768916pre hogan WCW was pretty dimes sometimes. I've been watching through their PPV's on the cock
>>18769677no, he couldn't resist the urge to do a shoot coffin drop off everest
>>18768928>>18769684none of those three died of steroids. vader had heart disease from being a fat piece of shit, sid got cancer from selling round-up, davey was a retarded drug addict who got staph. the business got taken over by talentless marks doing gymnastics. it was all better when it was roided drug addicts
>>18769760Davey Boy likely died from an enlarged heart from growth hormone, similar to Eddy Guerrero.
>>18769112>And what does Surfer Sting's look contain that is missing from wrestling today?Sting looks like a superhero compared to today's Jiffy Lube crew looking guys.
>>18768960Me too
>>18768916There's not enough white people left in America for a bunch of 6'3"+ people to just be hanging out and getting sucked into traveling circuses.
Because we have better
>>18770024It's funny how someone that looks even remotely big is seen as special these days. The mid-card was full of generic muscular guys that looked like Drew. That was like the bare minimum. They glt mogged by legit monsters. I mean legit strongmen and powerlifters used to pursue careers in wrestling.
>>18770103They aren’t even special lol. Hunter wasn’t a Lashley fan and let him go, Brian Cage is stuck in ROH. Omos is in developmental.Face it, seeing bodybuilders was an attraction to the naked eye when people didn’t have easy access to the internet and content that has freakshow shit.There’s nothing eye-catching about seeing a bodybuilder on TV anymore. We’re desensitized to ir.
>>18770158I don't think sizequeens understand that bodybuilding is rightfully seen as gay as shit and not indicative of being tough in 2025, also they don't know that fucking huge dudes was Vince's thing not a wrestling in general thing.Are these people aware the biggest UFC draws of all time are a woman and a small Irish man? Sure Brock's in there too, but that was what, 15 years ago now
>>18770158>>18770200>bodybuildersI'm not talking about the little manlet bodybuilders, you dumbass. I'm talking about legit competive strongmen and powerlifting athletes. I'm talking about 300-400 plus pound muscular behemoths. People that look like that will always be impressive, strongmen like Hafthor and Brian Shaw are more popular than any wrestler from this generation. People like Lashley and Cage were the average sized wrestlers back in the day. Omos is like freakshow type, like a shorter Giant González. Lol These days there are no legit monster athletes who give a shit about wrassling. If wrestling was as popular as it was in the 90s there would be legit strongmen trying to make it in the business. The fact that so many morons here don't know the difference between bodybuilders and strongmen shows how disconnected wrestling fans are from legit sports these days. There used to be more of an overlap, sports fans were into wrestling and vice versa. Nowadays it's strictly nerd territory.
>>18770158>>18770200The difference between a bodybuilder and a strongman.
>>18768916kikeltzer influence, he was sent by tel aviv to kill pro wrestling
>>18770355>I'm talking about legit competive strongmen and powerlifting athletes. I'm talking about 300-400 plus pound muscular behemothsYeah huge bodybuilding faggots, losers like Warlord and shit. Didn't bother reading the rest of your bullshit. Go to bed, Vince.
>>18770200We know Vince loved muscle, but the Von Erichs, Road Warriors, Lex Luger, Nikita Koloff, Steiners, Sid, Sting and other jacked dudes were over outside WWF. Hellwig without steroids wasn't getting work in Memphis, UWF and then World Class.
>>18770369>5'11" vs 6'
>>18769760>it was all better when it was roided drug addictsand big fat motherfuckers
>>18770419That's the point, you retarded faggot. The big monster type wrestlers were so common that they were basically used as lower mid-card guys. The top guys were former football players or heavyweight collegiate wrestlers that had a combination of size and agility, legit athletes. Nowadays the top guys are unathletic manlets, a bunch of nerds who just grew up watching wrestling with no sports background.
>>18770355Yeah I've always been surprised that more powerlifters havent gotten into wrestling
>>18770470The last era of big monster wrestlers in WWE was the early to mid 2000s with Big Show, Kane, Undertaker, Mark Henry, Lesnar, Batista, Lashley, Albert, Matt Morgan, Test, Nathan Jones, Snitsky, Heidenreich all around at the same time
>>18768916Real men want nothing to do with modern wrestling. Theres just too many geeks and fags in the business now.
>>18769926>today's Jiffy Lube crew looking guys.Those guys are ancient though, they just made it to WWE late and they're not even there anymore. One of them is shoot older than John Cena. Roderick worked in fucking OG TNA and jobbed to Kurt Angle on Smackdown once. If they're "today's" guys then so is Dolph Ziggler
>>18770707Wrestling is loaded with 5'9" short brown hair white guys like that, moreso the indys though
>>18770478Being a powerlifter or bodybuildingfag isn't conducive to putting on a good modern wrestling match. It was fine 35 years ago when a 15 minute match was 70% standing around/taunting/rest holds/tie ups but that's not what crowds want now.
>>18770749>good modern wrestling matchWhat's a good modern wrestling match? Gay flippy circus shit with no impact? You know there was a thing called Cruiserweight division back in the day? All that flippy shit isn't modern or new. The manlet jumping beans were allowed to put on their little show, but they knew their place on the hierarchy.
>>18770775Okay retard, keep ignoring the fact the WWE isn't full of little flippyfags and still puts on matches that have a pace way higher than the roid monkey era.
>>18770775The way people talk about "modern wrestling" you'd think Komander is main eventing Smackdown every week
>>18768960Unfiltered Soul
The truth is for decades people thought big muscled up dudes was sexy but it's not. Most women prefer guys around 6'1 210 pounds, not 250+ boulders. Around Swerve, Hangman, and Punk's size. And women are the ones that spend most of the money in society so everything is catered to them. Plus, over time people realized dudes spending 24/7 in gyms, over-tanning, and sticking needles in their ass is super desperate and cringe, not cool.
They do.
>>18768916None of you retards can name a good Vader match or promo & even if you did you’d just out yourself as an old fuck so I can just ignore you. Lose lose
>>18769697>no, he couldn't resist the urge to do a shoot coffin drop off everestKek
I am average height and weight. I do not want to watch wrestling to see people like me fighting each other. If I want to see that I could just put a camera in the local ghetto and watch hobos fistfight over crack. I watch wrestling to see larger than life characters do crazy shit. Like the Hulkster slamming Andre or a big fucker like Khali throwing someone like a baseball. I don't want to see two skinnyfat homos no-sell piledrivers for 45 minutes
>>18768960It's criminal we don't get kino shit like a pool episode during the summer or a haunted house episode around Halloween where every wrestler has a costume.
>>18771051You will not be receiving a party invitation to the White Castle of Fear, sorry dork
>>18770815It's worse, you braindead faggot. Since today the average wrestler is smaller than a cruiserweight, yet is somehow less athletic and more sluggish. That's why a literal YouTuber like Logan Paul can come and look more impressive than every indie faggot in existence.
>>18770972>Swerve, Hangman, and PunkNobody knows who these bums are. Popular mainstream actors right now like Chris Hemsworth and Alan Ritchson are more muscular than average wrestlers these days. Lol That was unthinkable back in the day for a fucking movie actor to mog wrestlers.
>>18771243>That was unthinkable back in the day for a fucking movie actor to mog wrestlers.Arnold and Stallone mogged 90% of wrestlers in the NWA.
>>18771248Stallone was a fucking midget and Arnold would be average sized by 70s and 80s standards. He was muscular but he wasn't huge by wrestling standards.Arnold got mogged by Superstar Billy Graham who wasn't a monster type.
>>18771283Billy Garaham was absolutely and outlier in his time. There are guys like Brock and Lashley who are still there.
>>18771295He was outlier in terms of aesthetics, he was ripped like a bodybuilder. But he wasn't a giant by any means in terms of pure size.
Bring back Roids 'n' Coke
lack of cocaine.
>>18770972The most beautiful men in the world are/were all under 6 foot. Admittedly height has got more important in recent times but face is still number one when it comes to what w*men find attractive.
>>18768916Because the BBC scat lover with a bodybuilding fetish is gone so there's no demand for roid apes. Second it's because it isn't realistic, nobody wants to see two failed bodybuilders with zero cardio wobble around the ring, especially in a time when things like UFC is mainstream and fighters there typically have bodies like Balor or Swerve.
>>18770749Crowds want to put themselves over these days. They want to soiface to a yummy bangerino that where they can then chant 'Holy Shit' or overreact to everything.It's the loser shut-in version of going on holiday just to take photos of yourself.
>That's why a literal YouTuber like Logan Paul can come and look more impressiveHoly fucking KEK the absolute state of edrones
>>18768916>steroid scandal>decides to push Bret and HBK>their era birthed midget shitters>destroys territories before that>that leads to even more indie shittersBlame Vince.
>>18768916theres way less money in wrestling. theres no yakuza willing to donate 25k USD for a main event performance from past his prime vader anymore
>>18771922The France crowd is an example of this
>>18770972kek, 1. different women want different things. 2. Tastes change according to media brainwashing. Look at the mass delusion called fashion, where things people were breaking themselves to look cool in, look hilariously weird years later. Mass delusion. Same thing with body types, except women are programmed to love men's fit and muscley physiques. LOL @ believing what trhey say, not what they DO.
>>18771957>"theres way less money in wrestling.">guaranteed contracts era
>>18771965No I was there, we wanna get loud and have a good time, especially since we never get wrestling showsThe only sort of live event where you'll have a quiet crowd in France is opera, ballet or good old fashioned classic theater Otherwise we're here to make some fucking noiseWe boo the heels, we cheer the faces, we chant in between, we don't give a shit what it looks like, what else do you want from a crowd lol
It became taboo for wrestling schools to take a percentage of their trainees first contact, mainly because they’d wait until the last minute to tell them that’s how they make their money or because they would demand way too much like career long compensation. So wrestling schools started charging significant fees for training. Now if you’re a college athlete who blew out your knee you’re not necessarily thinking dropping a lump sum of 5k and then a couple hundred a week to train in something might but probably won’t get a job in. But if you’re 90 pounds soaking wet and your favorite thing is wrestling it seems like a small price to pay for the ultimate engagement with your hobby.
>>18769760you're on the right track here brother. wrestling is supposed to be crazy fuckers with colorful personalities, not skinny little theater kids doing gymnastic routines or fat bearded shitters who all look and wrestle the same.
There are more people making a living in wrestling that went through the chikara wrestle factory than any other modern wrestling school. Let that sink in.
>>18771051vader vs flair, starrcade 93. one of the best matches of all time.
>>18772357Perhaps even the last truly great American wrestling match.
Its always fascinated me how much you fellers care about how the male wrestlers look, and then when I go the womeme threads it looks like how women talk with each other. You guys even get defensive like women. Has 4chan always just been women this whole time? Are trannies and troons just a feminist psyop gone wrong?(they're better than real women so that seemed to have backfired)
>>18772368Nothing gay about saying a guy who worked hard for a physique, looks based. Might inspire some to look like that.But everything is gay about bringing troons into topics without a mention, though.
>>18772368This thread is just OP complaining that wrestlers don't make him hard anymore lmaoYou can see the effects of years of Vince's bodybuilding fetish propaganda
>>18772447>>18772368Actually you guys are the gay ones.
>>18771248Stallone at his height would have been a jobber or at best a Bill Dundee type star in Memphis.
>>18772687Dundee never had the ripped muscles but they actually looked somewhat alike back then.
>>18771944They have Jelly Roll beating up established pro wrestlers lmao.Having celebrities come in and beating up your wrestlers after one month of training is far more harmful to the business than wrestlwe’s physiques.
>>18770103The issue with wrestlers that big is that they usually aren't good in the ring. Or good at doing promos. Or good workers in general, for every Vader there were twenty Luther Reigns>>18770200It was a wrestling in general thing, in Japan too since if you weren't tall/big enough you would never be considered heavyweight, plus martial arts is an actual sport and that is not what wrestling is, its way more similiar to a circus than a sport
>>18770978Kek
>>18771903Kek manlet hands typed this
>>18770200Being big is indicative of being able to beat the shit out of manlets like you. The biggest draws in combat sports history have been heavyweights. The popular lightweights are the outliers who became famous due to charisma and marketing. The heavyweights are the most feared athletes in boxing, kickboxing, and mma. That's why there are fucking weight classes in the first place. In real life size matters in fights, the best lightweight would get literally killed by an average heavyweight.
>>18770200>Are these people aware the biggest UFC draws of all time are a woman and a small Irish man?both who won matches in the first round and talked trash. two things smarks are allergic to so shut the fuck up
Because the marks are in the ring and not the front row anymore. The s-0yb0ys decided that they didn't want to look up to and emulate wrestlers that were larger than life with larger than life personalities. No, they demanded that their wrestling heroes be like their comic book heroes getting pegged in the ass on screen like Ryan Reynolds and being skinny no muscle mass dorks like they are. That also explains the flippy-shitter ladyboy dancing that's become pro-wrestling style these days with over exaggerated moves that would never be done in a real fight, as was the mentality of pro-wrestling for decades. A twink like Jungle Bitch would have been selling popcorn.
>>18768916because fans started to look like (YOU)
>>18771956Bret at least had a grounded, realistic wrestling style and a mentality that made it look and feel like a real fight because he was actually in real fights when he was a kid. Michael's was the one who birthed the high flying aerial floppy cock selling shittery that makes up the majority of wrestling today. Blame Shawn.
>>18772687we're you worked by movie magic
>>18773983Stallone wears like 6 inch lifts and Hogan had a fucked up spine.
>>18768916Is it true that getting on gas will make you talker besides accelerated muscle growth?
>>18771248Stallone was less than 200lbs for most of his career.
>>18773983Hogan was probably a legit 6'5'' in his prime, shrank down to 6'2'' or so
>>18768916I don't like commercials but I guess it part of the carnival, this is a dime digging business at the end of the day....
Jay Use just cut a Raven promo!
>>18768916I don't know. Even the ones with some mass look "long" instead of "wide" if that makes any sense
>>18769760>it was all better when it was roided drug addictstrvke
>>18771051https://youtu.be/HFa4MEWBQ9s
>>18774711If you take HGH and one other drug (forgot what it is, but /fit/ has an infographic) BEFORE your growth plates close, then yes.
>>18773983You can see taller Hogan side by side with him and Mr. T at a 2005 awards thing here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtuZBxf4ozo&
>>18772368Afraid so
>>18768916This actually has me thinking. Could wrestlers that look like this even actually work (as in sell, draw, etc) or are we in an era where the only thing wrestling will ever draw is wrestling fans that will watch this shit until they die? Seems to me that for WWE its the brand name itself drawing more than anything else at this point. With AEW those hardcore smarks will always remain diehards. I can't see a scenario anymore where actual wrestlers that looks like wrestlers like they used to look would be able to draw so well that people who are non-fans tune in. Back then most of them looked like characters. Now they all look like people in glorified street clothing.
>>18771283Holy fuck you aren't kidding. I never knew they had a pic together and the pic clearly does show based Billy mogging Arnold goddamn lol. These nu-era fans are never ever going to get a clue are they?
>>18772315Attitude era caused the death of that as cleanly as you'd like.Once wrestling shifted over to personality instead of character, all the fun left at once. Shit should be soap opera for men, not talk radio.
>>18780148>if they did a thing antithetical being dimeless, would they draw?
>>18780148>Could wrestlers that look like this even actually work (as in sell, draw, etc)yes. there are/were some around nowbraunbrockmcintyreomosbrody kingcomoroto the dude that looked like caveman in aewlars sullivanits just big guys either dont want to be wrestlers anymore or triple nose and tony arent hiring them or pushing them
>>18780148Big wrestlers or even above-average sized wrestlers are the only wrestlers that still draw. Kek. That's why wrestlers from 20, 30, 40 years ago are still more popular than wrestlers from this generation. This generation of wrestlers hasn't produced any real stars. You said it yourself the brand name "WWE" is what draws these days, but the new wrestlers themselves are complete nobodies to the mainstream.
>>18770419>Weak fag doesn't know the difference between bodybuilding, powerlifting, strength training, and strongman.No surprise there.
Because the majority of the people who kept watching were small dweebs. The men moved over to UFC and the rest grew up. Faggots like Gargano and Cole are the ones that kept watching and wanting to be wrestlers. Everyone else realised getting dropped on your head 300 days a year was fucking dumb.
u tell me
>>18771248what's funny is that the NWA is now one of the only feds that isn't filled with vanilla midgets, they actually have a lot of big hoss guys right now.
>>18768916Steroids are a controlled substance nowThat's it
closeted fags wanna see buff dudes on roids
>>18772368Bodybuilders and bodybuilding fans are shoot homos
>wwe 10-15 yrs ago: Daniel bryan , cm punk, christian>wwe now: extra muscular version of drew, bronson, priestIf anything it’s improving
>>18770200>>18770355>>18770424>Are these people aware the biggest UFC draws of all time are a woman and a small Irish man? Sure Brock's in there too, but that was what, 15 years ago nowWorth mentioning in this debate that Austin was 6'4 in shoes.
>>18773954>Bret at least had a grounded, realistic wrestling style and a mentality that made it look and feel like a real fight because he was actually in real fights when he was a kid. Bret was also 100% bigger than the normal man. Most normal people who met him in the 90s said he was way bigger then they thought he'd be.
When they stopped protecting the business and started letting the fans in.
>>18781264>If anything it’s improvingYeah, if you're gay.
>>18781399
>>18769760>it was all better when it was roided drug addictsDoink the clown?
>>18781759Bawk
>>18781264>Daniel bryan , cm punk, christiani like when people list off great wrestlers to make this pointmost of the cruiserweights who are genuine terrorists against good wrestling came from the 2015 indies, and there are more of those guys in HHH's WWE than credible big men, even after AEW signed the literal four horsemen of them
