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What did you think when they said they would do a sports based presentation? For me that was the first hurdle they fell at, you can interpret it in so many ways but they did none of them, when you say that you can't go and do the WWE phony cliches like they did.
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>>18834615
Why isn't there a yellow first down line? Where are the cheerleaders?
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>>18834635
>Where are the cheerleaders?
I think Nic Nemeth is the only one still working and he's in TNA.
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Tits
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>>18834615
I figured it would be tournament style like the cruiserweight classic
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>>18834615
WWE actually is doing a sports-based presentation now. It doesn't really mean much, just the way it shows the wrestlers arriving to the arena, the focus on advertising and putting it in the ring, the different little stats they put up for them when they come. That's all a sports-based presentation is. You fooled yourself into thinking it was some huge game changing thing.
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>>18834675
Mikey is in NWA and he’s juiced to the gills.
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Off the top my head the only sports based wrestling products are early 90s wcw, but even that wasn’t consistent cause they kept trying to be a gay cartoon for retards and little kids to peal off fans from the WWE. And so you had shit like robocop, Norman the lunatic and the ding dongs.
The other one was Jim Cornette’s ROH, as far as I know he even coined the phrase sports based presentation. But the show was so clearly budgeted, at least to me at the time, and that turn out to be true as his goal was to make roh profitable for the first time in their history so they could actually get someone to buy it. No telling if it would have remained profitable in the long run.
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>>18834615
The Like a Geisha Garden Dragon Pirate Yakuza street fight is as close to a sports based presentation that aew ever got
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They could still it off. They have like 6 guys with presentable physiques, just gave them for squashes and then face off in different combinations on ppv. But Tony can’t get out of the indie mindset of everyone is entitled to get their shit in.
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>>18834754
and he's dimes too, mike mondo is a legit HOSS. motherfucker is so thick he probly has to turn sideways just to get through a door.
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>>18834615
Americans don't want sports presentation in wrestling. No one in a Christian nation is watching wrestling because they think it is real.
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obsessed
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For whatever reason everyone thought they meant 70s NWA when they just meant putting win/losses on name plates and saying how long the time the match has to differentiate themselves from WWE but then WWE started doing that when they got with TKO.
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The issue with early AEW was their booking system. Having the EVPs each book a division sounded okay in theory but then they each had a completely different idea as to what wrestling should be and what makes enjoyable wrestling.

Cody booked the Men's division like late 80s/early 90s WCW, The Young Bucks booked the Tag division like an indie show given a TV spotlight, and Kenny booked the Women's division like a Joshi promotion with a Japanese indie flair and stacked the roster full of Joshis.

They each booked their favorite type of wrestling basically:
>Cody - Old School WCW
>Young Bucks - Indieslop
>Kenny - Japanese Wrestling but more specifically the cartoony style that the indies do rather than the "strong style" the Japanese majors do

So on an AEW 2019 show you'd have a really serious wrestling promo about wins and losses and how wins and losses matter followed by a more down to earth wrestling match with a "sports based presentation" where a submission seems devastating but then it'd be followed by a tag match full of flip spots and no selling massive finishing moves, followed by a women's match full of colorful characters who are superheroesque and there's supernatural goings on like Abandon and the Nightmare Factory and Yuka Sazaki is a magical girl! and it's just like my Japanese anime, followed by another Men's match which is super serious and gritty etc.

And it was all just really jarring to watch, the booking styles countered each other and made the other sections seem worse. It didn't help that Cody seemed to be into serious booking while the others liked their comedy segments and funny moments, especially ones that popped the internet.

When Tony fully seized control with the booking it got more consistant, but not better as he books frantically, overstuffing shows with 20+ matches, hiring people left right and center, pushing people then suddenly not, featuring people then forgetting about them for months then randomly resuming etc.



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