Now that the dust has settled.ALL OUT or WRESTLEPALOOZAwhich one was the better show?
>>18868155ahahhahaha what the fuck is this
>>18868155All Out by a country mile. And Lesnar vs Cena was just fucking pointless. What a waste of time.
both were legitimately abysmal dogshitthis feels like the worst era to be a wrestling faneven worse than PG era cause during PG era at least we had TNA
>>18868155I watched neither, but I can guarantee you Wrestlepalooza was better
>>18868308You owe me a dollar.
All Out - top 5 PPV of the yearWrestlepalooza - worst PLE of the year
>>18868155That wouldn’t happen in Vince’s WWE.
>>18868155>the alternative to this shit is the same exact shit >as it become more soulless, shitty and corporate this fucking mongoloid of Khan is too retarded to capitalizehow are people this spending money on wrestling in any capacity?
>>18868155AEW has never put on a good show in the history of it's existence because it fundamentally doesn't understand pro wrestlingWWE does but is fucking awful at iti.e, WWE is better
>>18868402still spending* I'm braindamaged by this garbage
>>18868155ALL OUT THE FEELING IS BACK
you tell me
>>18868270So what now. I'm lost.
>>18868155All Out was a better event overall however IYO/Stephanie is a MOTN contender
>>18868479why is this fat man having a seizure
>>18868531holy fucking shit
>>18868236Console warring aside - the only reason to put that match first and not as the main event would be for counter programming, right? How do you square that with what they actually did for the match? It's legitimately insane, brain dead booking to me. I can't figure out what the point was. Really getting hard to not say HHH is a complete and total disaster at this point.
>>18868479legitimately embarrassing, why does he do this?
>>18868308this
>>18868308Based and same
>>18868624>the only reason to put that match first and not as the main event would be for counter programming, right? HowAbsolutely braindaed of gaytch if he's doing this. The stakes and scale of the promotional value of Cena vs Lesnar is in such a vastly different stratosphere relative to anything AEW could even comprehend that even entertaining the idea of counterprogramming with it is absurd.
>>18868624I honestly think it went first because they assumed (probably correctly) that it was the one match on the card AEW fans would be least interested in... So they put it on first to literally get it out of the way. So WWE could lure AEW viewers could switch over to Palooza after All Out without risking them bouncing off Lesnar/Cena and switching off again.
>>18868155All Out but I will continue not watching Dynamite or Collison because it has made the ppvs better
>>18868725Why would AEW fans care any more about any of the other matches on that card than one of the few remaining Cena matches against another legend? Maybe I'm just retarded but I simply don't understand that logic.
>>18868155LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOGRIM
>>18868703>The promotional value of Cena vs Lesnar for the 7th fucking time after the last one was a complete demolition by LesnarSure Jan.
>>18868790It's not wrong thoCena vs Lesnar for the final time was vastly underpromoted and the idea that it could even be entertained as something to counterprogram who vs who with is a failure on WWE's behalf
>>18868624brock matches go on first when brock wants to leave right away
Entertain this, dickhead.
>>18868806This logic doesn't track though because if they saw it as "who vs who" they wouldnt bother counter programming at all
>>18868155This is terrible. What the fuck is this? And now you have drones spamming>>18868479>>18868531But you can excuse it for Kingston having ring rust and being out of shape at least. Why is Seth politely placing AJ in the correct place and Phil just standing still for 10 secs?
>>18868836Exactly my friendThe fact that they tried to counterprogram anything with what should logically be the biggest program in the medium is a failure
>>18868859Ok - sorry - maybe I misunderstood you. I really am at a loss. Between the name of the event, the card, and this stuff, and it being the first grand event on ESPN, I really have no fucking clue what they were doing tonight. Sort of feels like there is no actual thought going into anything.
>>18868886I agree, that's what I'm saying. The fact that Cena vs Lesnar, something that SHOULD be historic, happened here, to counterprogram two guys - Hangman vs Fletcher - who have absolutely zero name value compared to Cena or Lesnar, is absolutely unheard of in any other sport, field or medium, and should be chalked up to sheer incompetence of pettiness on WWE's behalf.The idea this could even be a question is absurd, but it is. This is arguably Cena's logical final match, but it was a 9 minute squash to counter two guys with less twitter followers than my ballsack. Just obscene pettiness from a smarky booker, Paul needs to go.
>>18868970fuck. this is grim. triple bypass is killing WWE.
>>18868836Are you fuckin retarded? They announced Wrestlepalooza before All Out ever had a main event
>>18869081that's just not true
>>18868725Cena vs Lesnar was ass
>>18868970what in the actual fuck is a>logical final match
Palooza is betterAll Out sucks ass just like the Snowman does
>>18868155>one show had over 10 WRESTLING matches>the other one had like 4 which was slow fake rehearsed fucking dogshit like OPs webmHmmmmm yeah real tough choice
I saw so many comments angry about Wrestlepalooza. Was it really that bad?Doesn't help that there are also a lot of people saying how bad it was compared to watching All Out earlier.Some even admitted that they thought AEW making their earlier was a "surrender" only to find out today that it was the best decision because now people see how bad WWE's is.
>>18869135The John Cena match was like 5 minutes long
>>18869095https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keb8A-08jHESeptember 6th. Now your turn to look up when Wrestlepalooza tickets went on sale
>>18868970And to make matters worse, Cena/Lesnar was the worst match.
>>18869122>one show had over 10 WRESTLING matchesTNA had a show today?
>>18868970Well said
>>18869135The best thing about you LARPing as some kind of fucking retard on /pw/ is that about 20 people are seeing it here, and meanwhile hundreds of thousands of people are discussing WWE at about a 10:1 ratio compared to AEW across social media
>>18869101>>logical final matchThat Cena Vs Lesnar could rationally be Cena's last match ever because they have a lot of history and both guys are still active money draws, what's there to misunderstand here
>>18869113Lol. Lmao even. Enjoy wasting 30 bucks on shit wwe shows. Kek
>>18868519we look to deepest darkest africaSGWers... our time is nowbumbash is cooking up kino lately
>>18869149>>18869149I think for this not to be disingenuous you would also need to include how or when or why they decided, against any rational thought, why Cena v Lesnar would lead off "Wrestlepalooza"
>>18869122one show had this
>>18868155Wrestlepalooza was fucking dogshit. All Out wasn't amazing or anything but it had it's moments and overall was fun to watch.
>>18869216
>>18869216Why is Cope a constant carousel of embarassment?If I was an AEW fan I'd be begging for him to fuck off.
>>18869216This is fucking based, why are Drones acting like this is bad???
>>18868155Despite that lame lengthy setup for an otherwise cool move, AJ Lee part was best thing of whole weekend and only thing I cared about. Too bad they slowly worked over Punk for like 15min+ before she finally tagged in. So I guess WWE wins it for me since AEW was more like just skipping through it to see if anything cool or dumb happened.
Okay I'm just going to ask AEW fans which of the Wrestlepalooza matches interests you least? Besides Vision/Usos because that was never going to open.
>>18869216ngl this is kinda based if you take it at the face value of edge respecting a career-long adversaary
>>18869174Why the fuck would Cena put over someone older than him for his final matchYou actual fucking retard
>>18869298It was pretty great, yeah. Cena gave Edge a shoutout, Edge gave Cena a shoutout. Two vets showing each other respect. Console warring is for C Suite Execs and 4channers.
>>18868155Why are they triple teaming Becky?
>>18869328What was Cena's shoutout to Edge?
>>18869344he did his spear
>>18869297besides the Vision match? Drew / Cody.
>>18868479>>18868155Damn it's crazy that these are the leaders of their promotions
>>18868155>I watched Wrestlepalooza>I did not watch All OutWrestlepalooza by default
Main event: world title, Drew exposed himself as less than Kevin Owen in kayfabe and actual wrestling / AEW had a tag team with only one getting over is CenaWomen Wrasslin: WWE smoked AEWCena/Lesnar was insulting but redeemed by crying kids and internet heat Tag team matches: AEW smoked WWEX-Factor: Green Bastard in ridiculous glasses, Undertaker in ridiculous glasses (Tie)Crowd: Canada Shitter of the night: Jey USO/ Eddie Kingston MVP: MVP
>>18868155>>18868479>>18868531The problem is neither company has a Vince McMahon, or Bill Watts, or Ole Anderson, somebody who will chew the wrestlers the out for doing something that looks like such shit.
>>18868155thats grimola
>>18869315Because that's what the script says
>>18868155U know already
>>18868155CMLL Aniversario
>>18869216What's wrong with this? It's just edge doing a tribute spot to his biggest career rival who is retiring
>>18871446just kinda lame. Did Flair do Legdrops when Hogan retired?
>>18868155all out is rated 8.8/10 on cagematch, if what youre looking for is just good in ring action then you can trust these autists rating
>>18871677kek
>>18868155All Out and it wasn't even close
>>18869135>Doesn't help that there are also a lot of people saying how bad it was compared to watching All Out earlier.>Some even admitted that they thought AEW making their earlier was a "surrender" only to find out today that it was the best decision because now people see how bad WWE's is.It was really a case of seeing that giant flagship TV on display while shopping at Walmart/Bestbuy and then coming home to jabronie ass CRT you've been holding on to for 20 years now. People are most sensitive to downgrades than upgrades and the difference seeing them back-to-back was stark for those that watched both literally bleeding into each other all Saturday.
>>18868155>both promotions have black cornbuckles and white ropes
>>18871813black what?
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