I just don't like wrestling no more
I realized I just don't like modern wrestling with no dimes anymore. I started watching 1997 ECW for the first time and I'm having a blast
>>18869823but...... shur ya liked wrestling yesterday Colm?
>>18869823Wrestling for the last 20+ years has just sucked and its not getting better you got a few things here and there that aren't bad but as a whole its shit.everything is so lame and gay now
>>18869823i don't like anything no moreI wish i could just relive 1990-2010 over and over again forever
I didn't get to enjoy this movie because this guys wife I went to see it with was sucking my dick in the theater.
>>18869823No one cares. This isn't your blog
>>18869823sad stuff
>>18869823I pretty much only follow my local wrestling scene. Have lost the love for US/Japanese wrestling
>>18869823Everyone cares. /pw/ is your blog.
>>18869823It sucks tbf
>>18869823I quit watching for good also my brother. I will always blame Tony Khan because he went out of his way seemingly to let me and everyone else know that yes, this great sport is actually a gay sport. These motherfuckers are actually fags. Damn
>>18869823grim
It has been tuff enogh
>>18869823*rapes the joker*
>>18869823I quite fancy a Guinness now
>>18869823You're not the only one. There's not much to like.It's why some of us have moved to joshi. We're not watching it like you watch WWE. I'll watch shows every once in a while and usually mostly in the background unless it's a match I think will be decent - it's just easier to watch chicks than a bunch of guys I don't care about.It's not that it's better, it's that it's an easier watch.
Small cosplayers in ringSmall cosplayers in audienceJewish estrogen injected top to bottom It's never been more over
It's shit. Tony and Paul think wrestling is a sport. Vince knew it was art.
>>18869823Same. I haven't watched anything for nearly a year
>>18869823Shit since 2001
I remember getting into wrestling knowing very little about it, but watching movements happen and recognising the dynamic storytelling that was taking place.They had the first women's MITB match 3 weeks after I started watching new wrestling for the first time in my life.Ellsworth (manager) climbed the ladder to get the briefcase for Carmella. I recognised it as good heat. You get the scrawny simp to get heat by doing this, you legitimise the victory because the stip said the first woman to hold it wins, then you babyface the women who got screwed by this and do the blowoff at the next PPV by squashing Ellsworth which is believable because look at the guy.Basic, basic storytelling. Equal ground, unfairness = heat, intrigue and showboating second week, angle third week, stip on Monday before PPV week 4.A fucking retard can do it.I look to see what other people think of it on youtube. "Sexism, a step back for women's wrestling, Vince is a lying hypocrite who ruined the women's revolution, they deserve to lose all that share value". I was shocked that so many people are this dumb about the wrestling they've been watching their whole lives.Surely I don't know better than them?In the years that followed, I learned that I did know better, and do know better.But now?Look at the WWE.Look at AEW.Look at how the matches are choreographed and produced, how they're called by an agent with a script and not actually called in the ring like all the good wrestling used to be.I feel like I don't just know better than the marks. I know better than the wrestlers in the ring too, and I haven't even seen a whole year of modern wrestling. Never paid for any of it. Never bought merch.I'm 31, fat and out of shape, not athletic at all, and I see every single thing they do wrong as if I've done it all for 30 years.That disgusts me.
>>18869823Haven't for 22 years now
>>18869823Wrestling has like 2-3 years max left or whenever Punk retires from in ring action. It is being carried hard by the old guys and TKO will sell when they are done ringing out all the juice from the old guys
>>18872881The day where mainstream pro-wrestling kicks the bucket can't come soon enough. And I say that as a wrestling fan.Wrestling itself will never go away. But wrestling was at its best when it was just small companies doing their thing, where maybe one of them might gain a bit of prominence for doing something good while the rest could be safely ignored.Indy shit? Sure. But no one has to watch it or get upset by it. And who knows, maybe one of those indy companies would start doing something good again since all the talent wouldn't be bottled up in two companies. Your favorite guys who are stuck at midcard right now might actually be doing bold and experimental stuff as the face of a smaller company.
>>18869823I never actually really liked the wrestling part of wrestling
I will always love wrestling. It's so dumb and awesome. It's beyond stupid if you think about it for a fraction of a second, but it rules anyway. Simulated, dramatic violence.
>>18872963I like it because it's stupid. I don't have to think about it.When I want to do something smart I read a book. But stupid is cathartic in ways that smart never can be.
It’s a dead art form. No one works enough to even be consistently coordinated. Never mind the psychology and timing aspects. I would strongly suggest everyone just watch older wrestling you missed out on or get a normal hobby.
>>18869823Wrestling reached it's peak at the height of the Attitude Era.Best characters.Best storytelling with the characters.Best lighting, pyro and music.Best crowds.They failed recapturing it year after year, so I stopped watching.(I regret torturing that one girlfriend to watch it with me.)
>>18872866Great post young man.
>>18870064Same. Every day is a struggle.
>>18869823Same here. Both shows yesterday were dogshit and cultists are still arguing with each other about which was better.
>>18873486everyone is admitting wrestlesnoozer was shit but the one aew fan can't let his console war go
It’s over my brothers.
>>18872866 I started noticing a real problem about a decade back when the wrestlers started to take themselves way too seriously and began talking like pretentious artists. The irony of new school mocked old school of keeping "fake tough guy" kayfabe persona but these new school geeks are even worse wanting to push their "real athletes" BS when you are a make-believe fake fighter. These new guys need to be reminded they are no better than Kamala, I have more respect for Kamala is at least he actually memorable. Something went terribly wrong when it went from over-the-top characters who fought a fake fight that fit in the character style and storyline to this strange "athletic merit performance" where it turns out to be a night of figure skating with everyone have similar choreographed moves to get the necessary star rating
>>18872923>Your favorite guys who are stuck at midcard right now might actually be doing bold and experimental stuff as the face of a smaller company.a big problem with modern wrestling is a lot of the wrestlers just can't wrestle. i doubt in 10 years there will really be anyone left who gets it
The only way to revive wrestling would be to have some MMA company starts working their matches.But even that would probably not work, everyone knows what a shoot looks like thanks to internet and MMA.
>>18873511There's a lot of people who absolutely know how to wrestle, but the problem is they're mostly in Japan, where it's still taken seriously.They don't translate to American wrestling well unfortunately, as we've amply seen.
>>18872946That's because it's the least interesting part... it needs to set up the finish, and that's it- and MAYBE one crazy highspot if it's the blowoff, or the entire point of an angle. Meanwhile these dorks think anyone cares if they do a flip
>>18873505I noticed the same in 2019.While "sports theatre" does fit as a description of pro wrestling, the theatrical component does provide an avenue for arrogance and hubris.Movies and the stage are inundated with hoity toity prima donnas who think they're God because they're in the leading role and get paid accordingly, especially in Hollywood.The old-school wrestlers didn't get paid that much for their services. Some made a fortune, most didn't, and the most respected guys were the ones who kept their feet on the ground and maintained their sense of humility.I can't see any of that in today's wrestlers. They're all waxing each other's dicks with admiration and lovey dovey work rates and such devotion, always harping on and on and on about the sacrifices they're making like they're a martyr or a prophet, just like the Hollywood people.Veterans never talked about it that way. It's a job, and they worked the job the same way a lineman works his job and a plumber his job. The element of sacrifice doesn't come into the equation until the wrestler's talking about how he got screwed and made a sacrifice to keep his career or something like that.Not with today's wrestlers. Their sacrifices are like a noble cause to them, a virtue and not a price."The marks are in the ring".They all seem like self-marks but it doesn't sit right...Those agents who choreograph everything, the producers, the creative writers who are always shown patting themselves on the back and somehow never breaking their shoulder despite how passionately they're complimenting themselves...In AEW it seems like the talent are high on their own cum.In the WWE, everyone behind the curtain certainly is.
>>18872086>TonyA nepobaby who entire view of good wrestling comes from Dave's newsletter>HHHSlept his way to the top, the least self-aware wrestler I have ever seen who has a unhealthy sense of self-importance They are both awful and not sure who is worse.
>>18869823Nobody knows how to sell moves anymore. The most basic thing that makes wrestling compelling and gives it any semblance of realism or drama, these move-spam marks just seem to gloss over.Ever notice how they'll go to a split-screen replay to show a high impact move like a powerbomb to the apron or a dive off the top rope? 9 times out of 10, the wrestler who got hit by the move will be back on offense right out of the replay. Like what's the point of the replay if the move didn't matter and the guy wasn't phased?My guess is this has been a result of bad trainers going back 20 years now. Trainers stopped protecting the business and instead took the cash grab teaching all the marks how to do 150 moves and stroking their egos, instead of teaching them how to be solid jobbers to make the top guys look good.Look at the Hardy Boys who are legends now. Matt and Jeff were cutting their teeth as singles jobbers for 5 years on WWF tv before being a part of the card. Today, they'd be on NXT tv with barely 2 years of training, with a gimmick, a move set, and going 50/50 with a guy who's been working for 5+ years. Too much move spam, and it's all uselessly fast. Everybody learns the moves, and nobody knows what the move does.
>>18872866>I look to see what other people think of it on youtube. "Sexism, a step back for women's wrestling, Vince is a lying hypocrite who ruined the women's revolution, they deserve to lose all that share value".Marks getting upset that they got worked is nothing new. But because kayfabe is dead, the New Marks are all karens who send angry letters to management, instead of shouting death threats at the heels. "How dare you subvert my expectations! Evil fucking company."
all of this is the product of a society based in nepotism. the best people aren't the ones who get the opportunities. rather, the opportunities go to those with connections and money. I truly believe that most anons on this board could run a wrestling fed better than WWE or AEW (pepe von erich is kind of proving that, actually) but none of us have the money or connections to ever get that opportunity IRL. That is the root of the problem. This problem affects all other forms of entertainment too, by the way, so you might as well stick with wrestling.
>>18869823Me neither, but the drama around it is more entertaining than anything else going on. This board makes it even better.
>>18874579>This board makes it even better.This. I find a lot of wrestling these days unwatchable, but it's fun watching it with you guys and shitposting in the live threads.
>>18874469I hate smarks much, there was a Meltzer approved wrestling radio show here and after a local WWE PPV they asked fans to call in who say it live. Someone called to say and without a hint of irony says "Kevin Owens is a great heel, my entire section was cheering for him" and the host agrees. These guys claim to be so smart, but are such fuckin idiots. I never listened to another show again
