TKO is taking too long to make a deal for TV rights
>>18923777They need to poach some CMLL talent because alot of the AAA guys are complete dogshit.
>>18923801Nah, WWE just needs to keep sending its low/mid card wrestlers to compensate AAA's old/out-of-shape wrestlers. CMLL is doing well on its own. I'm a big fan of Hechicero btw
>>18923777this is now the gamethreadhttps://youtu.be/SPuIogrO6tk
> La Hiedra, Máscarita Sagrada, Mr. Iguana, Pimpinela Escarlata vs Dalys, Lince Dorado, Mini Abismo Negro, Taurus> Flammer vs Faby Apache> Laredo Kid, Niño Hamburguesa, Octagón Jr. vs Kento, Nobu San, Takuma> Sansón vs La Parka>Pagano & Psycho Clown vs El Mesías & Mecha Wolf [AAA TAG]3rd defense> Dragón Lee vs Hijo Del Vikingo vs El Grande Americano
>>18923801>alot
>>18926312Pimpi
iguana man will be champ
let go parka 3
no alberto el patron? shant be watching
Nobody is interested in watching this disgusting shit.
>>18926424this is just bootleg darkmatches, real show starts in 25 bingshttps://mundolucha.com/
tozawa should lead the tokyo bad boys
>>18923801dogshit fed but that’s kinda why I’ve liked it for so long
>>18926428and its live
>>18926613might need to switch over from MLW. they have some old jap
dom is in the building
mexican dixie looking extra plastic
>>18926648yeah, she's creepy as fuck
Big Dimes Dom
dont zoom in on her. stop it.
giga pop for Domster
Oh shit you made a thread I guess I'll try deleting mine
Some dude streamed the dark matcheshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPuIogrO6tk
>>18923777They are coming to my city I believe next week, should I go? Tickets are cheap considering the roster
Where are you guys watching this?
>>18926694Definitely NOPE
>>18926698 see>>18926428
>>18926698read the thread, its less than 30 posts, ffs
>>18926698spacehbo max on a vpn set to mexicobootleg twitch streams
I think WWE has it's hand in too much stuff to properly secure a TV deal>RAW got sold to Netflix for a decent amount because it's always been the A show>Smackdown went back to USA aka the only channel that ever bids for WWE because other networks aren't interested >has it's developmental show is on a channel that anyone gets >also wants to get TNA a TV deal I doubt CW is gonna take 2 wrestling shows, let alone 3. Plus what other networks would be willing to air wrestling at this point?
alberto got hired for a reality tv showhttps://www.twnpnews.com/2025/09/alberto-el-patron-joins-reality-show-after-aaa-exit/La Granja VIP Promoting El Patron As Alberto Del Rio
>>18926613What matches did I miss
>pagano still has def rebels octagons theme
>>18926715telemundo is antenna channel in america, aaa could fit easy enough
>>18926693these >>18926720
>>18926720the iguana tag match, the trios match and the la parka match.
>>18926720these >>18926693and a Dom promo, the show just started 15 mins ago
>>18926715konan said in his podcast they already have a deal in the us but he could be lying
>>18926739>he could be lyingAs fucking always
>>18926739YeahA TV deal in Mexico maybe
how the fuck do i watch this shit? do i need to buy hbo too ????? wtf is wwe doing
>>18926767read the thread, you stupid cunt
>Pagano can do his slams and dive easily but he struggles doing basic kicks>>18926767here >>18926428 and >>18926713
>>18926775mesias is shrinking, he was abyss sized before
Grayson Waller namedrop amongst the jibberish.
wyatts for immortals show
hiedra making those panths stretch
wew
cool headdress
dem tortas
NuParkan needs to start eating those tacos de carnitas asap, slim parka is a cursed look
Crazy how a pregnancy can change a woman's body, some get fatter some get skellier like Becko and some can retain their beauty like Bliss
>Spicy Luchadoras can actually do a somewhat decent 1v1 matchaight
*promotes catholicism in your path*
dom is back!
>That dom pic kek
how did Dom and El Grande Americano suddenly became the 2 big acts of AAA? yeah I know its because of WWE big dicking AAA but that's not enough as they still need to get the okay from the mexicans
>Dom on commentaryLMAO probably gonna be in spanish but whatever
boooooooo vikingo
>>18926984Because they're entertaining and that's all that matters. No one gives a shit about Vikingo's flips if he's a charisma vacuum
nice bow to plastic dixie
>Chad Gable erased from the titantronDamm retcons
I do feel bad for vikingo, he got handed a bad hand, it's not his fault Alberto was a beloved champ
>>18926984Both were big meme machines in Mexico even when Gable was doing Americano, and Vikingo has Roman Reigns syndrome
>>18926997No, the reality is that AAA doesn't have wrestlers (and the few it has aren't attractive) nor its own stars, that's why WWE's trash is AAA's treasure.
>>18927034If we are talking about Mexico only, AAA has the better gimmicks and the more charismatic luchadores, CMLL has the 5* luchadores, but everyone in CMLL has Vikingo syndrome, all charisma vacuums even Nu Kemonito sucks.
>>18926984The rest of the roster was either too old (Mesias, Pimpinela, Pagano) or newly hired by the company (Dr. Wagner III, Fiscal, La Parka JR). Their strongest bet was Alberto. Psycho Clown hadn't received push for a while, Mr. Iguana and El Niño Hamburguesa weren't taken so seriously and El Hijo del Vikingo was injured
*throws tortillas at crowd*
Good match so far
>>18927034Kaiser Americano and Dom are pure pesos
HOLY SHIT
Vikingo buried kek
>>18927070None of the AAA clowns, not even all of them together, can compare to Místico, the true and only Mexico's idol. CMLL has the 5-star luchadores, the 5-star matches (AAA doesn't have a single one), high-quality international events, and the only real idol of lucha libre for 20 years. Stop coping.
>>18927111*botches*
>>18927111Penta always buried Mistico in promos, Mistico can only do typical babyface babble and many people even in CMLL mogged Mistico in technical acumen
fun show luchabros :)
Great main event but questionable decision to make Dragon Lee the next main event
>>18927122Stop coping. Who is the true and only idol of mexican lucha libre since 20 years ago? I'm spouting facts, you're just talking with fire in the ass.
Fun night kinda boring start but it was ok>>18927111>retcons Sin Cara Myzteziz and CarísticoMistico is nothing without his mask
>>18927141L.A. Park, next question
>>18927141>Who is the true and only idol of mexican lucha libre since 20 years agoLA Park?
>>18927151>>18927156bruh we got the same conclussion
>>18927144You must be referring to Penta, who owes everything to his image. Mistico was always loved by the crowd, just like Mysteziz and Caristico. If anyone has proven he doesn't depend on a mask or a name, it's him. Take away Penta's name and suit and there's nothing left, and you know it, don't be dishonest.Why are AAA fans so low and miserable that they rely on lying and twisting the facts?
>The CMLL schizo is trying to start a console war againKek on time
>>18927141Super Porky was pretty over with me 20 years ago.
>>18927179>Mistico was always loved by the crowd, just like Mysteziz and CaristicoIt's not ok to lie on the internet anonAlso>Sin Cara not mentionedConcession accepted
>>18927151>>18927156LA Park has been banned from several promotions in Mexico and USA for its bad behavior.Mistico has never hit a fan and is a guest on every television show, and he's currently wrestling for various companies around the world. How many television shows is LA Park invited to? Are you sure he's still well-liked by the fans? Or has he been earning himself a bad reputation with his shitty attitude and hypocrisy?
>>18927206>>18927156>>18927165>>18927151LA Park and subsequently La Parka. This is not for debate, both have been insanely over, sadly one already died.
>>18927198Ask yourself why WWE took him in the first place, moron...
>>18927206So LA Park is the most based wrestler in Mexico and Mistico is the corporate's pick got it.
>>18927111>high-quality international events>literally USD $2 ticketsMeth heads with rock bands have more self-respect
>>18927222>Still memoryholes Sin Cara's run making him the worst wrestler in the worldDouble concession accepted
>>18927222Because in that time, AAA luchadores weren't that popular, and Rey Mysterio knew it. Mistico got the invitation because he was the face of CMLL, not of the luchadores in Mexico. Rey Mysterio is literally raw AAA talent since the beginning, and Mistico couldn't adapt for shit, hence why they brought Dos Caras JR or as you know it, Alberto Del Rio. It has been proved over time that AAA talents have been always better than CMLL talents, no matter what kind of mental gymnastics you have. Fuck it wasn't even Mistico that big, it was El Hijo del Perro Aguayo, you retard.
>>18927222So... he is nothing without the mask and everyone in CMLL putting him over just like current Mistico getting free belts, trophies that could might as well could help elevate new talent? got it.
>>18927244At least they don't have to give away for free half their tickets to every event like AAA. Their arenas are always full and sold.Also, their membership costs USD $40, twice than Netflix. If you think more expensive equals better, then according to your idiotic logic, CMLL is better than WWE, you idiot. Stop coping in this very stupid way...
>>18927245I don't think he's worse than Jey Uso or whatever AAA shit you want. Please don't use WWE shit as an example.
>>18927246Rey Mysterio had been wrestling on American TV for the better part of a decade before he got to WWE.
>>18927276>Has to go rock bottom to another era to excuse Sin CaraThe joke writes itself
>>18927246>>18927259You seriously need to stop talking that nonsense. I'm even too lazy to respond to such nonsense, especially since I've already made it clear in previous posts. You're a lying asshole, and a ridiculous charlatan, a worthy AAA fan.
>>18927280Yes but Rey started in AAA regardless. Same with Alberto. Same with Penta. The only legitimate good talent that WWE pouched from CMLL was literally Dragon Lee, at least in the male side.>>18927286Cry nigger Plus I'm pretty sure he got popular over the time due to his video with La Oreja de Van Gogh and his Ameno theme as well.
>>18927286>Noooo it's a lieeeee stoppppppp
>>18927289dragon lee was a aaa tag champ when wwe poached him. it was minutes after dragon lee & dralistico beat ftr for the belts too.
>>18927286As people say in my pueblo: If you like him so much fuck him (si tanto te gusta cogetelo)
>>18927286kek remember when botch cara had to have the referee stop a match because he sprained his finger?
Just stop replying to the CMLL schizo he is known for shitting other threads with Hogwheels AEW levels of schizoing >inb4 he starts blogposting
>>18927270>Has to shill pokemon to sell ticketsAnother joke writing itself
>>18927329No, the thing is that it is impossible to answer this and that's it:None of the AAA clowns, not even all of them together, can compare to Místico, the true and only Mexico's idol. CMLL has the 5-star luchadores, the 5-star matches (AAA doesn't have a single one), high-quality international events, and the only real idol of lucha libre for 20 years. Stop coping.
>>18927351>None of the AAA clowns, not even all of them together, can compare to MísticoYeah no one wants to be Sin Cara kek
>>18927341pokemon paid cmll, can't hate cmll for that. aaa took marvels money a few years ago.https://youtu.be/q1rAv0Q_ROQ
>>18927341Nope, in fact, Arena Mexico is full every week, so Pokemon look out for CMLL (and not AAA nor WWE) and CMLL gave them an extra thursday date. Stop coping.(and then you say you don't have to lie and twist the facts, you piece of trash)
>>18927360And they screwed up, it was horrible, nobody was interested in that shit and Marvel ran away from there because AAA is shit and ruins everything that touches.
>>18927289>started in AAAlol Mysterio had nearly twice as many matches in WCW than AAA. Alberto was there for a couple of years then spent nearly twice as much time in CMLL.>WWE cannot successfully poach CMLL>therefore CMLL bad?????
AEEEEEEIIIIII REF STOP THE MATCH!!!!
I love how the thread devolved from a chill saturday night thread into shitting on Mistico/pw/ always delivers
>>18927363Isn't what you said a cope itself?
>>18927390Mistico is obviously connected with the higher ups in the Mexican elite because he always shows up in tv shows and shit, I believe I saw him in Iron Chef Mexico
>>18927351Don't reply to me schizo go find hogwheels and blogpost anywhere else
>>18927122And which of them is having the better career in 2025?HINT: it's not the guy feuding with New Day (in 20-fucking-25) over a hat
>>18927351maybe. but when mistico joined wwe as sin cara, cmll just put the mask on another guy and kept getting 5 stars. when sin cara ended up in aaa as myzteziz, he wasn't getting 5 stars any more.
Are e-drones seriously in their abandonment issues feelings over Sin Cara?
>>18927438Just look at how this thread started.>>18923801>They need to poach some CMLL talent because alot of the AAA guys are complete dogshitKEK, both WWE and AAA depend on CMLL's talent to turn this shit into a viable and interesting brand.They don't have a single 5-star wrestler (except Dragon Lee who left CMLL).Even the 'wonderful' Stephanie Vaquer is a product of CMLL. AAA has only been able to provide children's party clowns to WWE just trash).
>>18927438The one that doesn't strip accolades from younger talent while also not tasting some jew's junk in the ring while also getting a ton of worldwide viral moments compared to an single viral entrance with some pop song
>>18927484>ton of worldwide viral momentsSo Mistico
>>18927484Stop coping, you're fucking pathetic...
>>18927492>Mistico>Worldwide viral moments that are not that one entrance
>>18923801the only cmll guys that would fit aaa right now are vilano 3's, kira, catalina & gardenia
https://x.com/RealSamAdonis/status/1971992733649981594alberto might not be fired. he showed up at aaa tijuana show friday
>>18927206>LA Park has been banned from several promotions in Mexico and USA for its bad behavior Such as?>Mistico has never hit a fanA drunk fan hasn't tried to rip off Mistico's mask>is a guest on every television show Abismo negro, Mesias, Lady Flammer, Mr. iguana, Octagon Jr. Psycho Circus, Lady Shani and Forastero all of them in 100 mexicanos dijeron, Cibernetico in master chef mexico, Alberto in venga la alegria making a viral promo with Vikingo and in a reality show to be released in october. Mistico isn't that special you know>and he's currently wrestling for various companies around the worldsame goes to L.A. Park>Are you sure he's still well-liked by the fans?Are you kidding? People literally pay him to receive one of his chops.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1cF5xqloO40>Or has he been earning himself a bad reputation with his shitty attitude and hypocrisy?Okay, I realize now that you don't watch lucha outside of the CMLL
>>18923801CMLL dudes are charisma vacuums, yeah they can work but they would be stuck in the low/mid card just like Fraxiom
How many>Hechiceros>Neons>MASCARAS DORADAS>Bandidos>MISTICOS>Zandokans>Templarios>Titans>Difuntos>Soberanos>Angeles de Oro>Xelhuas>Euforias>Villanos>Voladores Jrs>Nieblas Rojas>and a long etceterahas AAA? Not even a single one of those? Just Dragon Lee? Sad... very very sad...Well, at least you have Dominik and El Grande Americano...
>>18927532You could have just said Cibernetico and it would be the sole answerdude was on fire calling PUTOS everyone in open mexican TVs in the 00's
>>18927549All charisma vacuums they aren't prepared for the big time just like Botchkingo, good wrestlers tough, also Kira is a botch queen.
>>18927494Says the CMLL obsessed guy who can't write a proper argument and just responds with stop coping
>>18927500Score the 5.5 star fight with MJF, bitch. How many 5.5-star wrestling matches does AAA (or WWE have? (As far as I can remember, everyone was shitting themselves at Sloppalooza last week and even the e-tards themselves).
>>18927563>>18927532https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsgEHeLcp7snever 4 get
>>18927549anon, half those guys do the exact same things. every face tries to be mistico. all the submission guys learned from satanico and do the same things. its no different than grapplefuck britwres from a decade ago.
>>18927566>Literally the thread full of SOLID argumentsSTOP COPING, ASSHOLE...
>>18927581You're missing the point, CMLL is a factory of elite wrestlers, something that AAA (nor WWE) will never have.
>>18927569>Moves the goalpost to Meltzer's AEW stock rotten scoreskek
>>18927583There it is again
>>18927569Here's your 5.5, bro
>>18927581I agree all those dudes would be just botchkingos in the making, they need some in ring psychology classes, even that Hechizero dude everyone hypes needs to learn some pacing because those random locks look weird.
>>18927589no, i get that. cmll has 4 schools, they have enough talent to run 11 shows a week in 6 different arenas. it is a factory that makes 2 types. it works & they sell out, its great business but its 2 types. they need to bring in outsiders like the vilanos because the cmll system can't make anything new. even zandokan jr was just an indy guy cmll brought in
>>18927610LMAO
>>18927012Hasn't Chad been gone for awhile on the electronics?
>>18927699Pretty sure they removed him from the titantron when he got def rebel'd 2 weeks ago
I wondered why a fucking AAA thread was this long
TKO will sign another billion dollar deal and AAA will take over the Collision timeslot after AEW is canceled
>That one CMLL anon malding over AAA mogging every promotion after they got the 'E rizzI did not expect that, I guess it's part of the AEW rizz package
>>18927812they could. aaa is already on hbomax
>>18927812Did the ESPN details ever come out? They said the Peacock deal was based on number of PLEs instead of length of time which is why they could do ESPN already. Would Disney be dumb enough to take the PLEs rather than a set length of time as well?
>>18927610>AEW having 5.5* matches on free TVfed could never>>18927815A random CMLL show this past Thursday just outdrew both Worlds Collide nights combined
>>18927790aaa is the hottest brand in wrestling
EsquizofreniAAA
>>18927869>A random CMLL show this past Thursday just outdrew both Worlds Collide nights combineda pokemon show with cmll people. the five cmll shows on monday, tuesday & sunday didn't get any attention. the friday show got nothing because it was flat after the anniversary show. not a single thread about cmll saturday show the same night as aaa either.
Also Pokemon is probably the most popular anime of ALL TIME in Mexico, outside of Dragon Ball.
>>18927869huh? I really hope you are not that CMLL anon World's Collide raped that pokemon show
why the fuck people are still pretending AAA is not WWE but a separate thing?
there wont be a single thread about cmll this sunday eitherCMLL (SUN) 09/28/2025 Arena México1) Espíritu Negro & Rey Cometa vs El Coyote & Pólvora2) Fuego, Futuro, Max Star vs Dark Magic, Okumura, Yutani3) La Jarochita vs Zeuxis [lightning]4) Dragón de Fuego, Dragón Legendario, Fugaz vs Akuma, Gemelo Diablo I, Gemelo Diablo II5) Esfinge, Star Jr., Templario vs Gran Guerrero, Stuka Jr., Valiente6) Neón & Volador Jr. vs Bandido & The Beast Mortos [Relevos Increíbles]
>>18927956why are people pretending to watch cmll just to shit on aaa?
>>18927956They still have their fun AAA spice with midgets exotics and other weird shit, tough some matches are defo being WWEfied whether for better or worse, honestly is a breath of fresh air because WWE has been too slopish lately and it's a great way for midcard dudes to shine, tough I would have appreciated watching more of the hexagon ring stuff heck their main belt still has the hexagon
>>18927968There should be a lucha general to post all the lucha stuff, lucha is hot right now, just kick that cmll spamming schizo out.Maybe when the next big free lucha event happens.
>>18927956Because the deal was only finalized recently. The first World's Collide was still pending, the recent one was after it was completed. AAA still mostly operates outside of the main shows similar to how NXT operates. They exist, but the crossover is here and there as needed for now.
>>18927900>>18927938Arena Mexico had over 14K in attendance.Worlds Collide didn't have that many people on both shows combined.>>18927977>admits he's pretendingLiterally nobody was praising AAA prior to April.
>>18927018It is his fault that he sucks though.
>>18928008thats the thing. cmll has 11 shows a week, iwrg, mas lucha & crash have shows. todo x todo santo tour has shows, big lucha does spot shows, nobody cares unless its to hate aaa without watching lucha.
>>18928014nah, they ARE WWE since the announcement.they have been controlling the roster, the titles, the feuds, the whole brand since that day (see Alberto)
>>18927869>A random CMLL show this past Thursday just outdrew both Worlds Collide nights combinedIf you go by views World's Collide slides, if you go by tickets World's Collide still slides due to ticket pricing
>>18928020Nope not true.
>>18927246>It has been proved over time that AAA talents have been always better than CMLL talentsThen why has AAA been circling the drain for the past 2 decades while cmll is still as popular as ever
>>18928029meant for >>18928020
>>18928020I think that, the ECW arena not a good look for aew one bit most fans dont even know what it is it just looks like warehouse
>partnering up with one of the biggest global franchises in the world for a cross promotion is actually a bad thing!!!!!
>>18927589¡Ay ay ay mi petardos!
>>18928029>>18928039>e-drones are paypig marks so AAA winsNo 14K?>>18928022People have been shitting on AAA for years and years, but you would only know this if you had heard of them prior to April
>>18928051Nope your wrong.
>>18927815It's not a CMLL fag, it's an AEWtist. Everything gets dragged into this gay Jerktranny E-Drone vs. SquaredCuckle AEWtist war. It's a fucking black hole of faggotry.
>>18928052>your
>>18928033>Talent>Same as managementAAA had the better balanced talent, not everything is workrate, it was just mismanagedCMLL currently just has an identity crisis most of their talent are just Mistico's clones with different names, also CMLL is not really that popular see pic >>18927938
>>18928020>Arena Mexico had over 14K in attendance.they do that 3 times a week and nobody watches the streams or starts a thread here>Literally nobody was praising AAA prior to April.that has nothing to do with people pretending to watch cmll. they have 11 shows a week, they need mjf or pokemon to get a thread.
>>18928055I wouldn't be surprised if it is Hogvert
>>18928083Nope not true your wrong.
>>18923801The only person they need from CMLL is Kemonito
>>18923777And I like the regular YouTube ple. It makes everything feel more special. If you want more there are already aaa shows you can find on YouTube. A formal us show would kill the fun
>>18928051>People have been shitting on AAA for years and years, but you would only know this if you had heard of them prior to Aprilpeople have been shitting on aaa since sexy star tried to kill rosemary or the glow in the dark diva match, but nobody gave a fuck about cmll here until the aew partnership. you wouldn't know that, you never heard of aaa until omega was the champ.
>>18928093show me the 11 cmll threads from last week
>>18928083>they're just pretendingCopa>>18928064>CMLL is not that popularThey mogged every single livestream WWE partner TNA has ever had, even the one with a thumbnail that was porn for Pajeets.And the stream wasn't even in English.
>>18928105>piggie trying out "no u"Bitch I watched Rey de Reyes like 10 years ago
>>18928117>>18928124show 11 /pw/ threads from the 11 cmll streams last week. nobody cared unless mjf or pokemon. there weren't threads for brodido or mortos either. just stop lying, you already lost.
>>18928105Pigs are the most incompetent dimwits in the world JEJ
>>18928159and yet, you can'y find a tuesday cmll stream.
>>18928158kek the pigbitch found his little cope he's going to spam ad nauseam>>18928161>can'y
>>18928104I think for growing AAA to an audience outside of Mexico it works. It's free and WWE so people will check it out which means it's easier to get them hooked on it.
>>18928165and you haven't refuted anything & resorted to namecalling. seems you already surrendered.
>>18928117>Has to divert to TNA to justify CMLL being popularOh you poor thing
>>18928179Nah I can just point out it draws more than both Worlds Collide shows combined every week>>18928174>DEBATE ME BROYou're the one crashing out pretending nobody knew AAA prior to Omega holding their belt lmfaobased draw Omega
>>18928195Triple mania outdrew it however thoughbeit
>>18928195>Comparing a $35max ticket to a $213min ticketI mean if we put Cena on main event at a $35max ticket price I wonder how many people we draw.
>>18928216wow AAA's biggest show of the year outdrew a random CMLL event...on a Thursday?>>18928224>e-drones are exploited paypigswe know
>>18928234it also outdrew their 92nd anniversary etc.
>>18928234>randomPretty sure it was some official Pokemon event advertised with at least a month of anticipation
>>18928195>You're the one crashing out pretending nobody knew AAA prior to Omega holding their belt lmfaoeveryone knew aaa since superastos, nobody cared until aew started sending people to cmll. stop being offended.
>>18928257>getting outdrawn by Togepi in 2025>>18928275How exactly am I being offended? You're projecting thoughbeit.
>>18928284>getting outdrawn by Togepi in 2025But they weren't? There's a massive difference in ticket price and views, results plus like the other anon said Triplemania would have been a more accurate comparison given the totally not random and anticipated Pokemon collab
>>18928341>biggest show of the year is a more accurate comparison to a Thursday showe-drones cannot stop owning themselves
>>18928366>Ignoring the arguments about the CMLL event being a Pokemon sponsored anticipated show, the price gap, the attendance ratio, views and proper event comparison>e-dronesOh so you are just trolling oh well...
jolly good show
