lmao nielsen is gonna end up killing wrestling in the US, like nigga what the fuck
>>18999214no it will just all move to streaming obviously. traditional tv is fucking dead
>>18999214The NXT and Dynamite ratings this week are gonna be TNA levels of bad
>>18999214WWE and AEW should sue Nielsen. They are both being fucked with
>>18999214holy fuck that demo is atrocious. they are basically gonna break down below a million by end of the year.kek Nielson killed the wrestling business
>>18999214Didn't the NFL push for this new formula because they thought they were getting boned over by the previous set up?
>>18999230if I'm TK might as well start building a honor club thing for AEW because once Zaslav sees this shit 100% they're getting lowballed, that goes for Smackdown as well, also TNA and AAA might as well forget about getting US tv deals too
>>18999243tna ain't getting a tv deal anymore. imagine if they did and they got like 20k viewers and a 0.02 demo
I'm calling 495k for NXT and 400K for AEW
>>18999214Damn, the no milly meme going to be coming for Smackdown now.
You retards realize USA Netflix and WB have the actual real numbers since they control these platforms right? they don't need a 3rd party estimating it they have the actual real numbers
>>18999225Not really. We've already seen where both level out to with the new method. It cuts about 200k viewers off of everything. NXT, AEW, Smackdown. All have dropped by about the same
>>18999214>caring about ratings in 2025
Slopdown no Milly soon.It really will be cancelled soon, no memeing.
Smackdown is going to move to Thursdays to try and save the ratings. You heard it here first.
>>18999252Nielson numbers are more accurate since they are using multiple form factors, some which USA Network have no access to. That's why Nielson is Nielson
>>18999258Or it will just move to Netflix too where it's already streaming in most countries
>>18999214How do you figure? It's a fucking number who cares
>>18999214Sports as a whole are dying, zoomies don't like them and aren't becoming fans, they would rather watch streamers
>>18999260>You heard it here first.You still have no sources
>>18999264Literally every sport is up and it was up even before they switch to this methodology.
>>18999214>>18999222>>18999225slopdown and NXT are going to be fine. nxt does better than the average CW show and and WWE sold it to CW for basically nothing and nxt doesn't cost that much to make because most of the wrestlers are making under $100k, like nyx said she was making less than $85k and they would be running it anyway like they ran nxt on like hulu or whatever and ovwworst case scenario is someone like peacock or disney+ or paramount buys slopdown and put's it on streaming because that's still like 600+ households who need to sign up and can't unsign up because there's a new show every week. It's why netflix overpaid for RAW and ESPN overpaid for the PPVs and peacock seethed over getting fucked on the ppvs. the streaming services need year round content or people will only pay for them for like 2 or 3 months per year when the show they like comes out. tony's faggot fed is fucked
>>18999261>more accurateNo they aren't lol what the fuck are you talking about. Netflix can literally see how many people watch Raw same with the others since its their platform and thats all that matters
>>18999261it’s Nielsen
Wrestling is a highlights sport like many others. This "boom period" was a smokescreen.
>>18999266More sources than you
>>18999264>Sports as a whole are dyingLol no.
Dronie are you okaySo Dronie are you okay, are you okay, Dronie
Um edrones they didn’t go against mlb they do this week holy edrones your hitting 900 soon
Meltzer was right about RAW doing 900k live viewers on Netflix all along
this ruined my week
Still a milly, something all trans wrestling troons can only dream of
>>18999275>tony's faggot fed is fuckedWith the WBD split coming, Warner Bros is not going to have cable channels, so AEW will be negotiating with Discovery, which will have all the cable channels.Discovery is going to be a smaller company far more concerned with pay off it's debt, which WB will send to Discovery as part of the split, then overpaying for a wrestling show that will likely be doing 400k viewers by 2027.Also, AEW will leave Max since all the programming that live streams on Max is actually cable stuff going to Discovery, who's launching their own TNT Sports. See, that isn't really that big of a deal because AEW, like all the other things live streaming on Max, is probably doing 35k to 50k live on Max, but AEW fans and Dave are retards who claimed they're doing 300lk, so for them they will think it's a massive deal
>>18999275I really hope SmackDown moves to streaming soon. It's bullshit that I still need a cable package to watch one show.
>lived long enough to see wrestling die in your lifetimewhat a wild ride
Shawn Michaels dancing on top of a casket that says "SMACKDOWN"
>>18999299yeah Max is totally going to dump AEW any day now, that's why they continue to add new AEW content as well as now sell AEW ppvschrist you drones are the dumbest mother fuckers
this is a conspiracy to kill wrestling on tvthey don't want us no more
>>18999308the elite want globo homo programming that can easily brainwash children. You cant really do that with wrestling, so it needs to go.
>>18999262>Netflix paying more for WWE>when Raw is falling off a cliffLol I don't think so
>>18999307No, you stupid fuck. They're going to drop it because the company is going to split and Discovery is taking TNT Sports content off Max to launch their own TNT Sports app, that was already announced weeks ago.AEW is apart of TNT Sports.WBD has already said the live stream for Max is not a major component of the service and since literally al of the livestream consists of TNT Sports and CNN content, both going to Discovery, they're likely to just kill off the stream.
>>18999240no clue, the old set up was out dated even back when they started doing it
>>18999264most sports are gay and political. also the sabermetrics shit made stuff like apehoop and nfl unwatchable
>>18999316netflix VP of sports has said said they happy with the performance, 2 more weeks troony
>>18999319if they were going to drop it they wouldn't have started selling PPVs on it, ya retarded drone BITCHyou dumb fucks have been so mindbroken by AEW you've constructed a complete alternate reality to live in, it would be funny if it wasn't so sad
>>18999325Again, it's not about AEW personally, you retard.>if they were going to drop it they wouldn't have started selling PPVs on itThat literally doesn't mean anything.
>>18999324So happy that they already let ESPN buy the PLEs when they had to chance to get them instead
>>18999276>>18999261>>18999252netflix knows the streaming data but USA and CW don't know how many people physically have the tv on because they are just shooting radiowaves out over the air. that said slopdown and nxt would have to have like gayew numbers before they got canceled because streaming services will pick them up and nxt still does better than most of the shows on cw and costs cw almost nothing
>>18999260why would they move to Thursday it's an NFL night lol
>>18999336ESPN overpaid for the PPVs like Netflix overpaid for raw
>>18999289900k on netflix is fine. netflix doesn't give a shit about muh demo because you have to pay every month for netflix, they're way more concerned with making sure people stay subscribed for 12 months a year and preventing people from signing up, binge watching squid games for a month or two and then unsubscribing
>>18999261>nielsen is more accurate than the data the tv channels have which tell you exactly how many people are watching on said tv channel
>>18999289Dave. Is. Always. Right.>>18999349>900k on netflix is finegrim
>>18999299>>18999307>>18999319>>18999300It's more likely smackdown is on max in 2028 than it is aew is on max in 2028
>>18999349They paid wwe to get 2.3 million views per 7 days lol Billions and Netflix is being boycotted by musk and his fans
>>18999346Do you think the NFL is on 52 weeks a year?
>>18999334>AEW is going to get dropped>because.... BECAUSE IT JUST IS OKagain, in reality, everything that's actually happening and not just being imagined by you, suggests there is a zero percent chance of that happening.
>>18999367I literally explained why AEW will likely be dropped off Max and I also explain that it has nothing to do with AEW's product.
>>18999316>>18999324>>18999336netflix doesn't want both the ppvs and raw and slopdown. they want one show that runs year round that ensures people have to stay subscribed year round and that those people can't subscribe, watch every squid games episode in 90 days and then unsubscribe. worst case scenario RAW is getting them 660 monthly subs that stay signed up every month. the ppvs, slopdown and nxt are diminishing returns because they just need the 1 show to stop people from canceling for 10 months out of the year
>>18999375Well things will be interesting they will need 50 milly a year to survive Tony’s done it before will he do it again?
>>18999375No, you explained what your two more weeks fever dream has lead you to believe what will happen this time. Like every other time you and the demented droniEs have predicted it will happen though, you will be sorely disappointed but instead of finally learning your lesson you'll just move the goal post for the millionth time.
>>18999365cool at least I can avoid the board for 18 consecutive weeks of people freaking out
>>18999382but over half the people that watched Raw on netflix stopped watching in 4 months.do you think 5 billion is worth that?
>>18999389Why would you want to avoid the board?
>>18999361>>18999364the whole point of the RAW deal was to retain subscribers for a whole year, which it's doing, you cripple
>>18999356how would the tv channels know how many people are watching the tv channel? they just shoot radio waves out>>18999361>they took his brain out and put it back in
>>18999260i'd much rather smackdown be on thursdays than fridays but they already compete with football on mondays, they wouldn't wanna do it on thursdays too
>>18999393>do you think 5 billion is worth that?They already said it was and Netflix has spent way more on stupider things.
>>18999398Is it? That number seems to be dropping quickly
>>18999214Ahahaha. that new wrestler boom was a total lie. Vince might get WWE back early
>>18999404It should be on fucking Tuesdays.It should be Monday Night Raw, Tuesday Night Smackdown, Friday Night NXT
>>18999300just buy a vpn or use a pirated site. completely your own fault if you're paying for cable to watch one thing.
>>18999393idk what number netflix wants/needs to consider it a success, but the netflix CEO said he was happy with the deal
>>18999393they get a top 10 show 52 times a year and gives some people a reason to keep their membership rather than binge and cancel
>>18999416>wow I signed a horrible fucking deal that we are locked intoyeah I'm sure he would say that if he thought it, would do wonders for shareholder confidence
>>18999404TNF isn't even on for half the year
>>18999433well they went for thursday smackdown for 2 years, then moved back to friday. there's something preventing them from doing thursday smack and i think that's a part of it.
>>18999258Smackdown being canceled would be the best possible outcome. There doesn't need to be anything more than a Monday night show once a week, and a PPV once a month. Wrestling's boom period dying as soon as two weekly shows became standard is 100% corralted
>>18999451Smackdown was on Friday because that's what fox wanted, USA kept it because the ratings were good. But now with the real numbers the ratings are bad for Fridays. So moving to Thursday is the best option
>>18999468would they be any better on thursdays?i'm not really a ratings schizo i'm not too tapped into this. so i don't know if they would be doing comparably better on thursday now.i imagine also that if they help TNA get that TV deal, they'd be moving off of thursdays anyway, probably to wednesday to compete with dynamite.
>both WWE and AEW B-show is going to get cancelled and to compensated it, both Raw and Dynamite going to be permanently three hours.Will you guys okay with only one show each but for three hours?
>>18999482Fridays are hard for TV unless you're sports.
Friday is a terrible night for TV and WWE is in that annual ice cold period between Summerslam and Royal Rumble.Honestly surprised it took this long to get this low
>>18999281'fraid not actually
>>18999299>overpaying for a wrestling show that will likely be doing 400k viewers by 2027Nigga it's doing 400k right now. Dynamite will be doing 100k or less by 2027 if it's kept on the air. Which is why it won't be kept on the air.
>>18999456>>18999486YES I WOULD BE OKAY WITH THIS!!Give me one good show a week and I will gladly watch it!Kill NXT as well and stop doing the gay shit with TNA and the mexican dumpster fed!No normal person in 2025 wants to watch all this professional wrestling!
>>18999486Both dynamite and collision are getting cancelled
>>18999356The data the TV channels have is Nielsen.
>>18999521The tv networks have their own data. But advertises won't trust first hand data because they can just make shit up, that's where nielsen comes in
>>18999388AEW is getting removed from Max because all sports content is getting removed from Max in favor of putting it on the TNT Sports app, you stupid retard kek
https://programminginsider.com/friday-ratings-wnba-finals-on-espn-scores-its-most-watched-series-opening-game-since-1997/ HOLY FUCK
>>18999526>The tv networks have their own data.No they don't.
>>18999456>>18999507>>18999486they won't do this (even though they should) because they want to make sure their buddies don't lose their jobs
>>18999531ITS JOEVER
>>18999482outside of football season thursday's a better day, the only issue is on thursday you go head to head with the nfl, but you do that on monday with RAW anyway
Wrestling is unironically motherfucking dying
>>18999214WWE is fucked. AEW at least can point to its audience being high income and well-educated which will attract advertisers. WWEs shrinking fanbase is known to be retarded man children who spend all of their neetbux on funko pops and women’s underwear.
>>18999526>>18999521>>18999539how the fuck would the tv channels have their own data? they are just shooting radio waves off into space, how would they be able to check how many tvs are picking them up?
>>18999550AEWs audience is so poor the latest update was that NXT fans were more wealthy
>>18999214suddenly ratings won't matter to edrones anymore
>>18999550>AEW at least can point to its audience being high income and well-educated which will attract advertisers.Kek nice bait
>>18999531>wnba almost doubling smackdown in demo
>>18999275>>18999299>here's how this news is only bad for AEWSEE: >>18999307 >>18999325>>18999528MAX does not class AEW under sports
>>18999214KWAB
>>18999559>this level of projectionAEWtists have spent the last several weeks making up copes that ratings don't matter and AEW doesn't need to be on television anyway.
>>18999243I have to imagine TV companies have their own internal ratings?
>>18999254They're going against stiff competition.
>>18999275A typical bitchtits reply.
>>18999583>I have to imagine TV companies have their own internal ratings?They don't. They get data from Nielsen.
>>18999560it's a bigger deal to gayew than it is to WWE. RAW's already on netflix. NXT is one of if not the highest viewership CW show and CW isn't paying that much for it and WWE would be running it for free on youtube if CW didn't pay for it so it's just slopdown and worst case one of the streamers would buy slopdown to prevent churning like how netflix and espn bought raw and the ppvs to prevent churning
>>18999570collision's going to do like 50k soon and dnynomite will do 300k. I'd say slopdown has a higher chance of ending up on max than gayew does and it's even more fucked for tony because most of the nxt roster isn't making jack or shit, steph took a paycut to come to the WWE and in nxt she would be in the toybox not on tv. tony's losing money on his show>>18999583fucking how? how would they measure it?
>>18999254gayew doesn't have 200k to lose >>18999596gain legs
>new fan sees raw is on netflix, tries it out of curiosity>finds out they need fork out for cable and espn and watch a gazillion hours each week to be a "true fan">never watches again
Suffah wrestling fans
>>18999622>dnynomiteboilin'>slopdown has a higher chance of ending up on MAXI'd say the only thing high is you but we know e-drones are just natural fucked in the head.2 more weeks?
>>18999622Comcast can measure Xfinity TV data from USA and NBC and all the other channels like bravo
>>18999650>are just natural fucked in the headGOODMORNINGBLOODYBASTARD
Man wwe fans are ego maniacs lol you do realize if wwe gets pay cuts that would cause a roster cut of massive proportionsIt's aew that's finished lol aew is worth half of what wwe is Paid and aew showed it could survive with 50 million a year.Now show me wwe surviving with 50 million a year because no company is paying wwe billions and w tko its likely it will be sold to SaudisThe espn rating must have been horrible because their is zero reports about it being great Yes aew Is gone from warner but can aew survive? Yeah paramount will pay for smackdown lol not at that price tag that you need to survive.. Let's look at some facts 2030 digital.id will we even care?How will wrestlers be paid under cbdc?
>>18999583They would have their own internal viewership numbers at most, but obviously they cannot determine ratings by themselves.>>18999642Even if they do watch the show it's still unwatchable slop, look at the massive dropoff in Week 2 alone
>>18999661ADVERTISERS USE NiELSON WHY THE FUCK CANT YOU EDRONES SEE THIS
>>18999214>Hide the TRUTHthis only fucks over AEW who are all Lefties anyway. time for you all to eat your just desserts.
>>18999658That isn't how Indians chat, mate.
>>18999653>everybody has xfinityyou don't even need cable to watch nbc, you can just use an antenna
>>18999670I am no filthy swinE.>>18999675least mindfucked drone
AEW is going bye-byeWe told you they were dead (WB hates Tiny)
>>18999214AEW is losing their collective shit over this. The truth kills. And now you die.
>>18999660tony would have to throw out his toys and both netflix and espn overpaid. Hell, new jersey paid over $7 million, not the fans, like the state of new jersery, paid the WWE $7 milly for summerslam
This hurts wwe more than aew because wwe is being paid more money supposedly for being a hotter product when that's not the case at all when you look at the new ratings.This should bring down their valuation significantly
>>18999675Shad made his money from sand nigger slave labor and laundering money for the Pakistani government, it’s hilarious anyone would think the Khans are leftists. It shows how fucking deranged console war faggots are, literally everything in their life needs to be a console war. There are no winners in the blue zog red zog war btw Pedro, there’s just kikes and marks and you’re one gigantic smelly mark bud.
>>18999678>mateGMS!!!
>it hurts all of Prowrestling!Somehow I think WWE will surviveRot in Hell tranniesYou're donezo
>>18999679What year do you think we're in? What percentage of the country uses antennas? 10? 20?
>>18999691>>18999660it hurts aew way more because nxt is still one of the most viewed shows on cw and they underpaid for it and a streaming service will pick up slopdown under a worst case scenario, even dementia dave says it's worse for aew>>18999361even dementia dave says the nelson stuff is way worse for aew
>>18999395It's kinda funny that only aewtists are upset about this. Speaks volumes how close to death you know you are. And it's TKO's foot on your throat.
>>18999704You just know Dave lays in bed worrying about this.
>>18999700you could buy one for less than $20. I bet the rates are up because no one has cable anymore and you can watch the NFL with an antenna
>>18999214WWE isn't going anywhereALL TRANNY IS OFFICIALLY DEADdance on their 325k grave muahaha!>"oh no, we can't lie about ratings anymore?!"
>>18999560>suddenly ratings won't matter to edrones anymoreThat's because AEW is officially DEAD thanks to this. Zaslov isn't going to renew. I hope you like AEW Twitch sponserd by Pro Wrestling Tees.
>>18999214Wrestling sucks. It deserves to die.
>>18999691WWE ratings will pick up. AEW ratings won't
>>18999682>>18999688Yes x2Only aewtists care when the truth is revealed.>"It's bad for WWE too!"And yet it's only AEW who dies. KWABOTY still Tony
>>18999214I love how the ratings are so bad yet WWE managed to carny the fuck out of NBC, Netflix, ESPN etchow???? Why do these companies pay hundreds of millions for this dying shit
Aewtists are having an epic meltdown rn
>>18999741They're running out of victims to swindleThere's already a long list of companies that will never touch them again
>>18999214you can take that BIG DATA and shove it up your BIG SMELLY ASS you BIG LOSER
>>18999214>killing wrestling in the USSounds sorta like the "both sides are violent" argument. And yet only one side murders people. AEW deserves this and all it's fans need to stop watching WWE.
>>18999642Headcanon post
>>18999741>>18999746streaming's different. the streaming companies need someone to keep people subscripted and prevent them from canceling when there aren't new shows
>Slopdown records record low ratings.>etards: "Sar, let me tell you how AEW has not been doing the needful sar!"Fucking tards. TK just has to do nothing to win; he can afford to get lowballed, TKO can't, they have debt and shareholders.I guess the rumors about Netflix suing WWE for lying about their numbers during negotiations weren't as far-fetched as first thought.
>>18999789>I guess the rumors about Netflix suing WWE for lying about their numbers during negotiations weren't as far-fetched as first thought.The trannies have lost all sense of reality
This ultimately means that WWE's valuation is going to decline faster now and in less time. TKO will want to offload it to the Saudis quick to get the most amount of money.WWE is a depreciating asset now. Get ready to learn the lyrics to Saudi Arabia's national anthem
>>18999214Stupid fuck wrestling HAS BEEN dead ... It's been officially dead for eons now .. what you watch today is wannabes shitting and pissing on the grave of this now dead form of entertainment
>>18999789>I'm better than everyone on the board because I accuse everyone of being indian.AEW is fucking dead dummy.
>>18999812Tony will run that shit on Youtube for free if he has too. He doesn't give a fuck. He's never going away you fucking idiot. WWE on the other hand, are totally fucked
>>1899970020% is big for data.
>>18999789You're completely deranged
>>18999816Tony has all the money in the world he doesn't care if he gets renewed or not. He just wants to book wrestling because he likes it. It's a billionaire's hobby for him. Drones never understood that
>>18999789yes, tony will continue to spend daddy's money on a show 50k people watch and 6 people pay to be in the crowd for at a mexican restaurant
>>18999805Incorrect. WWE's record profits are what's driving down TKO's debt. It's their reliable, perpetual money-making engine and offloading it would be suicidal.
>>18999828>wwe fag has no understanding of how corporate debt worksTony isn't using his dad's money, he just takes out a loan and pays like a 5% interest rate on it on which is pennies to him.
>>18999816>>18999824Why are you replying to yourself? Papa will not let Tony burn money forever.
>>18999816>>18999824Reality check: Tony has no money. He depends on his dad's money to keep AEW afloat.
>>18999835>Tony isn't using his dad's money, he just [headcanon]
>>18999789The sars and tards did not like this.
I like how Smackdown does a record low rating and BT just swoops in and makes it about AEW. Classic psyop shit from this clown
>>18999845Stop replying to yourself.
>>18999845Quit talking to yourself.
>>18999837look up who owns AEW>>18999840>cooldown+1
>>18999846BT literally doesn't exist. He's a boogeyman you made up because you're insane.
>>18999835>he's not using his daddy's money>he's taking out loans and paying off the loans and the interest with his daddy's money
>>18999849>look up who owns AEWImpossible. Tony keeps that data hidden for some totally non-suspicious reason.
>>18999849dave melzer?
>>18999851You will never be a woman.
>>18999904Which boogeyman is he?
>>18999904Yeah, but the different between you and me is I don't want to be woman.
>>18999214Aew gonna do 200k kek
>>18999214Terrible rating and really bad news for WWE.
>>18999214No Milly soon for SD.
>>18999947>>18999948and you're the only one who cares
>>18999851He posted pictures of himself
>>18999214With the debt and the lawsuits, I don't see the pedo fed surviving the next few years.Tony won.
>>18999660>Man wwe fans are ego maniacs lol you do realize if wwe gets pay cuts that would cause a roster cut of massive proportionsGood, it will force them to make new stars instead of wheeling out all the part timers. In 1996 the roster was tiny and the rest is history.
>AEW's horse shit 450k ratings are now almost half of what Smackdown is doingGrim state of things actuallyIt's like if TNA in the one-sided "Monday wars" actually popped its first episode ratings and kept itIt means that AEW is actually very popular in the overall state of pro wrestling but the overall state of pro wrestling is flies on shit anyways
Will Slopdown get cancelled again?
>>18999947dave said it's significantly worse for gayew
>>19000003Because AEW's deal expires earlier
>>18999214AEW fans do not like this turn of eventsWhat's wrong? No more lying about your failing ratings?
>>19000003>>19000010>>19000011say it with me now"BUT MUH MAX NUMBERS"
>>19000010dave said slopdown is the top performer on USA and cw didn't pay much for nxt anyway and tbs/tnt overpaid for tony's sloppa
>>19000011GMS!
>>18999833they'll offload it after they sucked it dry
>>18999214Confirmed
>>18999261Nielsen get accredited because they're "(((an independent third party)))".They allegedly have no bias.Of course Netflix has figures for who views what. If there's a watch history, they know what you've seen too.WBD has it for HBO Max as well, and the TV boxes also report what's on display to the telco's.
>>19001134Lmao dynamite gonna beat smackdown in a few weeks Jesus
I think there's something fucked up with the new Nielsen system. Last week's Smackdown also used the new method and it did 1.238m and 0.35, so it dropped 34% in one week in 18-49 which just seems insane when they're both using the new methodology. I just don't think there's that much week to week variation.
>nielsen is gonna end up killing wrestling in the USokay. Don't care
>>18999222This. I am sick of these people doomposting about TV ratings all the time. The Neilsens are an outdated and irrelevant metric, even an old fuck like me can see that.
>>18999258It's a marathon, not a sprint. ;)
>>18999275LOL NXTRASH will be the first part of WWE to fail because nobody cares about it and it generates no money. their shows are literally free to attend.
>>19001175>he Neilsens are an outdated and irrelevant metricTV still revolves around Nielsen ratings bro. If a show can't do adequate ratings then it's getting cancelled as Dynamite and Collision are about to find out. And as Rampage already found out. They're pretty relevant.
>>18999315you young kids don't understand something here...all this "woke" shit that they tried to force on everybody? They tried it in the 90s too. Back then, the standard term for it was "political correctness" instead of "wokeness" but it was essentially the same thing. People rejected this little campaign, and wrestling was one of the things that gave people a based alternative. Wrestling helped to fuck up their plans and they want to make sure that never happens again.
>>19001183nobody even watches regular TV anymore except people who are ridiculously old.
>>19001179>AEWtist fantasizing about NXT failing when 1 out of 3 AEW shows have already been canceled and the other 2 are on a ventilatorkek
>>19001183What ratings does Evolve on Tubi get?
I dont follow this ratings stuff. Is this a problem just for wrestling on tv? Or is every channel having a bit of a panic right now with the new system? Just seems weird that this would somehow just effect wrestling, has anybody said what caused it?
>>19001222as many assumed, the numbers were being inflated. the problem with looking into why, is that it would incriminate people.
>>19001230So AEW and WWE were using the same exploit to inflate their numbers that nobody else was using? That seems off.
>>19001248No, Nielsen's methodology was bad (everyone knew this) we don't know if their new one is bad yet.
There is absolutely no chance whatsoever that the Nielsen numbers are anywhere close to what the actual number of people watching is. Its absolute bullshit. I wouldn't be surprised if the numbers are like 50% off the actual viewership. Like have you ever met a single person who tracks their viewership.
>>19001192I don't like any of your FAGGY mainstream corporate wrestling. The big two are just fucking up and fucking up and fucking up every single day. I can't wait until they die because that will chase away all the zombies who can't enjoy a show without validation from thousands of other insecure tards. Wrestling isn't going to die, WWE and AEW are going to die and I say good riddance.
>>19001275>Wrestling isn't going to die, WWE and AEW are going to die and I say good riddance.AEW is going to die, but WWE? Not a chance. They've got a functional business model and experience with surviving hard times. They'll be around forever.
>Nielsen is hiding inside of everyone's wall to see who actually watch the show
So THIS is the new boom period
>>19001289AEW will likely die first, but WWE is also circling the drain. they can't keep putting a bandaid on the situation forever. And, when they continue to disappoint people year after year, that doesn't help.
it's honestly hilarious how the entire tv business relied on this thing for decades
>>19001340bad metrics are better than no metrics.
>>19001162Yeah that does seem unusual
>>19001326>WWE is also circling the drainThe only thing circling the drain is traditional tv channels. Mr. Beast doesn't worry about a Nielsen rating. The main WWE youtube channel is the 11th most viewed all time. Over 700 million views this month.https://socialblade.com/youtube/handle/wwe
>>19001326They're literally making more money now than at any point in their history.
I just want AEW, WWE, TNA, GCW, NJPW, NOAH, AAA, CMLL, Joshipedo feds, other indie feds to all just die.
>>18999214>ALL prowrestling is screwedI'm tired of AEW thinking they're on the same level as WWE - they don't even get 500k viewers anymoreAre you trannies really gonna blame Nielsen for your failures? That's a new low even for you
>>19001709Fuck you bitchtits
>pigs reduced to "well we're getting a milly!" RAW doesn't even get 1 million live US views and Slopdown won't be doing so for much longer. Buckle up piggies!
>>19001822they finna go hog wild
>>19001822Raw: 1.3 million live USASmackdown: 1.2 million live USANXT: 600k live USADynamite: 400k live USA (including max)Collision: 200k live USA (including max)There are levels to this tranny
>>18999222>traditional tv is fucking deadThis nobody watches commercialized tv. Most people are streaming only these days.
these new ratings are completely wrong
>>19001162>why do people stop watching a bad showIt's really a mystery
>>19001183On that basis, Raw should be canceled full stop because Netflix doesn't do Nielsen ratings.Technology and the way people consume media have changed.Advertisers aren't stuck in the past as you seem to be. They're collaborating with all sorts of platforms to procure metrics and measurements to see how they can best flog their products and services.When people say things like "these companies are selling your data", what do you think they're talking about?Data about what? To whom? Personalised ads, mate. And the companies' marketing departments are the ones buying it.
>>19001841>Smackdown: 1.2 million live USAI mean for now, what's more likely: Trannymite being canceled or Road Kwab sinking Smackdown to a no milly because I'm pitting money on the latter EASILY to happen soon
>>18999214Based Nielsen, will kill wrestling and rating fags with it. Maybe then wrasslin will heal.
We're definitely getting a no milly smackdown before the end of the year. What a time to be alive.
>>19002795Says an AEWfag pissing his pants in fearBye bye sweaty!
>>19002515>Raw should be canceled full stop because Netflix doesn't do Nielsen ratings.Raw doesn't air on TV. Nielsen ratings are irrelevant to it now. Dynamite and Collision do air on TV. Nielsen ratings are vital to them.
>>18999214AEW IS DEADBURY IT
>>19001179they would be running it anyway. they ran NXT and OVW for free for decades
>>19001222tv's fucking dead and has been dead and the only thing that draws is live sports and even then the NBA is doing ass. I think only the MLB, NHL, NFL, college football and wnba are doing ok and even then the MLB and NHL are hyper regional. no one gives a shit about baseball or hockey games unless their team is playing
>>19001248no, the nielsen methodology has been retarded, inaccurate and outdated for decades. >>19001275>I sneed my flips per flip
>Nielsen inadvertently exposed the wrestling conThe TV money will crumble and NJPW will be on top again. Ya love to see!
>>19003567>NJPWkek no, more likely than anything CMLL is the bedrock
>>19001222TV media rights deals built on Neilson what has kept American wrestling afloat for over a decade. It's why AEW was created in the first place.
>>19003682why exactly did nielsen changed things?
>>19003754TK tried to pay them off and it backfired.
>>19002694Dave pretty much explained that without smack down the USA network would just cease to exist . Even with these new numbers it’s still enough to float the station.
I heard this thread makes bibi-tits seethe. is this true?
>>19004957fraid not, but your post got btfo and new boogeyman
>>19004957fraid so
>>19003754because their methodology is retarded and outdated and has been retarded and outdated for decades and they probably got pressured to fix it since everyone knew they were doing it in a retarded ass way
