While AEW, WWE, and NJPW are posting record low ratings and/or struggling to fill seats, joshi is arguably the hottest it's been since its peak in the 80s. Stardom is doing record houses seemingly every week despite losing both Tam and Mayu while making legitimate mainstream stars. TJPW is staying strong domestically and drew a company record 2,500 paid fans in Dallas this July, selling more tickets than Dynamite does many weeks. Marigold is also doing well and has had increased buzz since Mayu jumped ship. The smaller indies also seem to be healthy. So what's the deal? Why has joshi been able to avoid sinking into a black hole like every other promotion sans CMLL?
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>>18999781Sorry dronie or tranny (not sure which you are), I'll be sure to dumb it down for you next time.
You’re just going off attendance cause they don’t have ratings or anything to go by. If you just went off like financials and attendance, WWE is doing fucking incredible even with attendance being down. CMLL is doing fucking incredible. Even AEW is doing fine in comparison numbers to numbers because a big Joshi show only means that it’s sold like 3000 tickets at most.
kek he’s bubblin
>three more then last time. If an AEW or WWE fan said this they’d be made fun of on this board for months.
>>18999786Even TNA is beating these numbers I mean this is bragging about 1000+ people TNA does that even with their worst shows. Fucking West Coast pro wrestling did 1400 people this year, that’s an Indie nobody’s even fucking heard of. Beyond wrestling did multiple thousand plus shows.
>>18999797>I meanOpinion discarded. If you can’t convey what you mean without telling us that you mean it I’m not sure I want to read what you have to say about anything other than how you’re working to improve your literacy skills
>>18999873Imagine taking the time to type that shit out lmao
>1500 is a great attendance now
I feel like there's enough masturbating pervs in japan you could fill a thousand seats with anything involving girls slapping each other around and acting cute in between the slapping
>>18999770>TJPW is staying strong domestically>700 in Korakuen Hall>strongI know the bar for joshi wrestling business being "strong" has been in hell since like 2000 but lol lmao even. It's literally just Stardom that's hot. No need to minimize that by attaching random stagnant promotions to it
>>18999962>domestic numbers steady>outdrew Stardom by two and a half times in Vegas>sold out three straight shows in Texas including the biggest drawing joshi show in American history, and depending on the definition you use for independent promotion, the biggest drawing indie show since the original All InOf course you already know all of this given that you keep track of Korakuen numbers, you're just being retarded for the sake of baiting. Next you're going to argue that these facts somehow don't indicate that the promotion is healthy. It's incredible how this post that has been making the rounds on X the past couple weeks can be applied to professional wrestling, just replace "leftist" with "console warrior".
>>18999873I mean, it’s okay to be retarded.
>>18999962>don’t attach that companies 700 people to the company I like getting a massive 1000 peopleOh, is this what joshi console war looks like? No wonder I never see it because if you posted anything like that, you would just get laughed at endlessly. Those are both horrific numbers not worth talking about.
>>19000019Haha, he did the meme.
>>18999770>TJPW is staying strong domestically and drew a company record 2,500 paid fans in Dallas this July, selling more tickets than Dynamite does many weeks. >Marigold is also doing well and has had increased buzz since Mayu jumped ship. >The smaller indies also seem to be healthy.
>>19000009>>19000027spamming the same picture of your tweet.
>1109lol how little money are these poor girls making if this is the TOP of joshi?
>>19000039I wish that I had thought of something so succinct yet poignant.
>>19000043>complimenting yourself Jesus, bit desperate.
>>19000009Hardfocusing on the one show out of the country that drew really well reads like cultists touting how All In had so and such people there while their TV only gets 2000 people tops. Maybe I should look at the numbers more if you post in such a rattled way. What's happening now is almost exactly like what the mens promotions looked like in the 2010s, when New Japan thrived extra hard and the others aside from a revived All Japan & BJW for a bit were either doing whatever or stagnant going into a decline. Just because someone points out the fact that only one promotion full of women in Japan is actually thriving while the rest are either doing kinda alright or completely stagnant is not console war posting, why you're sobbing about this idk.
>>19000019Im not sure why objective business observations are so tied to your feelings but it reads more like a console war addict than what you replied to
>>19000128>All In had so and such people there while their TV only gets 2000 people tops.I don't understand why you're trying to draw a causal link between a show that happened seven years ago and AEW's current struggles. AEW was hot out of the gate for a couple years after the first All In, selling out buildings and drawing relatively good ratings before collapsing. I don't understand the point you're trying to make tying that collapse to the inaugural All In. >Hardfocusing on the one show out of the countryI'm not focusing on one show, I mentioned four. I could also accuse you of focusing on one show given that you only bothered to mention the Korakuen numbers as the be all end all of success. The weekly spot shows are consistent sellouts, and are doing so unprecedentedly quickly. >New Japan thrived extra hard and the others aside from a revived All Japan & BJW for a bit were either doing whatever or stagnant going into a decline. I fail to see how drawing 2,500 paid could be dismissed as "doing whatever". I fail to see how announcing a show in Thailand that was an almost immediate sellout, or partnering with Bandai Namco for a Katamari crossover, or partnering with MLW to get your talent on shows including a big Arena Mexico event, qualify as stagnation. >why you're sobbing about this idk.I'm not sobbing, I'm presenting an argument.
>>19000195>t. Seething Teejfags
>>18999770>the bitch with tits spends his entire life crying about Tiny KWAB's grim attendances>will then try to claim with a straight face some ugly dog-faced gooks drawing 1k are white hotGenuinely and unironically, from the bottom of my heart. I'm begging you to have sex.
>>18999770Saya is the Hogan of Joshi
He's literally sobbing kek
>>19000454>maybe writing sad copes online all day every day will get me laidlol no. Can you just go and have sex bro? It isn't difficult.
>>19000494come over here an have sex with me
>>18999770She do be drawing the house, tho.
>>18999786Not OP, but the point is joshi is seeing an increase in viewership while the rest of the wrestling world is seeing a decline. Record profits don't mean much when viewership is declining apart from the fact that companies just know how to squeeze profits out of the fans they retain in ways they didn't before (which is why you watch more ads than actual wrestling when you watch WWE).Joshi is white hot because joshi companies are putting out solid shows that are fun to watch. Maybe you like the style of wrestling, maybe you don't, but the point is that the shows are engaging, fun, filled with wrestlers people want to see, are courting mainstream attention in non-cringe ways, and are doing stuff that courts growth instead of pushing people away. No, joshi companies aren't as big as traditional companies at the moment. But I think the trend is starting and that joshi companies will become more prominent as time goes on unless traditional companies change up their game a bit.
>>19001187>but the point is joshi is seeing an increase in viewership while the rest of the wrestling world is seeing a declineCMLL is having it's best ticket sales year ever tho. AAA is doing well too now thanks to wwe's help. You're headcanon isn't true
CMLL is about to sell 1 million Arena Mexico tickets this year
