I have a feeling John Cena's retirement is gonna go down as the worst retirements by an all-time great in the history of wrestling.compared to other retirement tours and runs, like:> Ric Flair was fighting tooth and nail to stay on as an active WWE wrestler throughout 2007-08. Vince declared that the next match Flair loses will result in Flair being forced to retire. He retired after WM24 when Shawn Michaels did the famous "I'm sorry. i love you" spot before hitting Sweet Chin Music on Flair and defeating him to finish off Flair's career. There was a story behind Flair's retirement.> Shawn Michaels wanted to put an end to The Undertaker's undefeated WrestleMania winning streak for WM26. HBK lost the first time, wanted another shot at it, got obsessed with it to the point that Taker granted him another shot at him, but if HBK loses, his career's over. HBK lost in 2010 and retired.with Cena, what's going to happen is, Cena's gonna go out there in December, wrestle somebody and that's going to be it. Let's say Cena goes out there to wrestle Gunther, then Cena's just gonna have a match with Gunther, give a retirement speech and walk away.What's so fucking special about that?
Can't blame him, it's been mostly trash
What's gonna be memorable about Cena's farewell tour/retirement run? But if Cena was the Undisputed Champ and went out there to defend the title one last time, retained it, gave his retirement speech and leaves the Undisputed title and his sneakers in the middle of the ring. That would've been something people would've remembered for Cena's retirement.WWE learned nothing from Kurt Angle's bogus retirement run where Angle took on goofballs like Baron Corbin in meaningless matchesand that's it.WWE fucked over John Cena and it pisses me off that people don't want to admit that, because you got too many snowflakes on PW who are just happy with people being here, and they don't wanna fucking put pressure on people to put in the work. OK, they had a good match, but why does it fucking matter?even Ringside News knows Cena's unhappy with WWE mishandling his retirement tour, and this is becoming a trend. People like Cena give their blood, sweat and tears, give their all to the fucking business, and when they decide to hang up their jerseys, you don't treat them the right way. WWE fucked over Goldberg, Kurt Angle, and now they're about to fuck over John Cena!!! I don't wanna see Cena go out there to have a bunch of meaningless matches against meaningless people.
>>19048547>What's gonna be memorable about Cena's farewell tour/retirement run?The horrific botched & immediately memory holed heel turn.
Triple H is straight up actively trying to sabotage John Cena on purpose on his way out.Because first off, Hunter turned the man heel on his own farewell tour thinking he was gonna get booed out the building. That didn't work, fans still loved Cena.Cena wins the Undisputed Championship, breaks Ric Flair's record of title reigns, starts telling interesting storylines about leaving with the championship and ruining wrestling...people get invested in that, and once people got invested in that, then Hunter pulls the plug on that shit, turn Cena back babyface and have him drop the Undisputed belt to Cody who ain't doing shit with it, and now Cena's out there floundering in the middle of the ocean with zero direction.And I just get this feeling that when Cena makes something work, Triple H throws a wrench in that to fuck it up. And then on top of that, WWE fucking moved Cena's retirement match from his hometown of Boston where he could've had his family and friends.... to Washington DC! If this ain't screaming sabotage, i dunno what to tell y'all. Something don't feel right.
There's no way he doesn't have a match in Saudimania
>>19048547>>19048567Holy schizophrenic head canon
>>19048532I called and saw this shit coming from miles away, and Cena trying to throw WWE under the bus (even if he was right) with Brock showing up proves one thing: he's also at fault for how this garbage tour went. >>19048547Please, if Cena really gave a shit, he would've been directing or at least guiding some of it in a way that he can be happy with and also build the business. Instead he happily took trash storytelling and booking and THEN has the audacity to complain about it when he had the power to rectify it at ANY point. Oh, and he can't be bothered to actually show up and put one last leg in for a semi-full time run, he's too busy filming capeshit slop as his actual business. Sorry faggot, wrestling is his side gig now and ex-love, just like fucking Rock. This nigga is fucking full of shit and only cares about himself. If he gave a shit, he would've bit on that R Truth hype and had Truth win so he can feud. Instead Truth got fucking BURIED and Cena did nothing. Then we had that retarded throwaway segment when they met up after Cena randomly turned face again and tried to sneak a diss at creative when it just makes him look like a passive aggressive pussy. You don't need to win every match to have a good story, but you need to have a GOOD STORY to have A GOOD STORY. Hell, if you ask me, AJ should've went over in their match, because he's also retiring and what better way to kick that off than saying you have one last win over Cena? But no. Instead we got Cena stroking himself off however he fucking can, literally getting the announcer to call him "the greatest of all time" when that's NOWHERE near true, and he just tolerated slop because he thinks that's "best for business" like he's still working under Vince. He's a faggot bootlicker and I hope his last few appearances reflect how garbage of a legacy he really had. And seeing how the last match is at SNME just like how Goldberg got snuffed, I bet it'll be a fucking FIELD day for me to laugh at.
>>19048532> What's so fucking special about that?His run did have a storyline that on paper could have been really good if they stuck with it. He was a heel that was gonna retire with the title. It all went to shit when they cancelled the botched heel turn and had him drop the title early. From that point it’s just been matches for the sake of it
>>19048532Why do smarks believe his real final last match will not be at Wrestlemania next year? Also this is dirtsheet clickbait :)
>>19048611This. I highly doubt Cena vented to anybody about his retirement tour, especially in the open where insiders can eavesdrop.
>>19048618I doubt Cena will bury Triple H to TMZ or another media source during his next big movie, because Cena's too much of a class act, so i don't think he'll bury Hunter or throw him under the bus.
>>19048532Pro wrestling retirements are never real ya dumb mark. They can just try it again in a couple years. I guarantee you the Saudis are going to want him to wrestle on their Mania show.
>>19048532>There was a story behind Flair's retirement.So retarded story that everyone's kinda pretending that it didn't actually happen.
>>19048532This fucking guy has literally a fucking year-long retirement tour with every single show reminding us how many fucking matches he has left, twice a week it feels like, he's going over basically everybody left in the company except Brock for some reason and he and his retarded fans still bitch and complain that they want moreCena is legitimately talented but I genuinely can't fucking wait for him, his fans and everything he's done to pro wrestling to FUCK OFF FOR GOODhe's probably gonna keep working backstage, but I hope he'll settle in China and that we'll never hear from him againGoddamn
>>19048532soon
>>19048532Only fair considering his whole run as a wrestler was shit.
>>19048971This is the way. If only to get Cena vs. Tanahashi at WK.
it's like WWE clearly didn't learn their lesson from botching retirement runs for Kurt Angle and later Goldberg.Angle had abysmal filler matches with fucking losers like Baron Corbin and just vanished into thin airGoldberg had a filler WHC Belt match against Gunther at SNME, lost and had his retirement speech cut off by orders of Triple HCena's just gonna have a nothing burger match against Gunther far away from his hometown of Boston with zero fanfare in fucking Washington DC.
>>19048547How many wrestlers prior to 2010's retired like this? marks can only think one way. Vince will always be correct
>>19048532What a fucking narcissist that he thinks he deserves an entire year retirement circus. Just have one final match like everyone else and walk off into the sunset with a little humility.
i dont buy it because Cena has enough politicking power that he could have the best retirement tour he could have
>>19049333He went with an initial pitch by a boardmember then said board member disappeared. Still think it's a good run overall though
>>19049330in Cena's case, i'd rather he went out and retired as a World Champ in the same fashion as a Michael Jordan ('97-'98 Chicago Bulls), John Elway (1998 Denver Broncos), Peyton Manning (2015 Denver Broncos) etc. all went out as world champs. That would've been the better way for Cena to go out.Cena being the last remaining megastar of pro wrestling means he earned the right to go out an unbeaten undefeated World Champ and retire a champ. Boston was and should have been the best place for Cena to retire at, because it's his hometown and Triple H should've let Cena retire in Boston instead of moving his final match to Washington DC
>>19049481>triple hack moved his final appearance to washington dc just to appease daddy trumpLmao. Couldn't have happened to a more hack of a wrestler but I can't tell if it's fueled by personal spite or being that much of a slave to the machine.
>>19048547no one cares AEW tranny
>>19048547You're right none of Cena's final run will be remembered in the future. WWE always gets these retirement runs wrong. I much prefer the way we do it over in AEW, such as Jeff Jarrett's current final run which has been incredible so far.
>>19049512>>19049481>>19048607>notorious vince guy >went into business for himself on several occasions and buried multiple careers >threw away his dimes gimmick so he could be a worse hulk hogan >knew people hated him, refused to make changes to keep the kiddy money coming in even though they would've paid regardless >could barely put on any good matches even throughout his lengthy career >fucks off to hollywood like rock did after trying to shit on him for it >got worked shoot naked for hollywood >outs himself still as a vince guy in the weirdest phrasing possible that makes him sound cultish>is the ONLY wrestler to get a full on retirement TOUR, not just a match >constantly has people sucking his dick on the mic and during match intros >explicitly had merch prepared just for his tour that he still used during his heel run because he's a fucking sellout who couldn't commit to the character >buried triple h and the E by saying he doesn't choose his opponents He's the modern day Hulk except less racist.
>>19049582I don't need to read everything you said to agree that yeah, WWE and Cena buried themselves hard. Sloppy promotion.
I know we don't talk about that promotion, but Sting has a great retirement run in AEW
>>19049582None of this happened except Cena mogging everyone in Hollywood.
>>19049619AEW is just better at using legacy wrestlers. Big Show, Mark Henry, Jeff Jarrett etc. have all had the best run of their respective careers in AEW.
>>19049634We don't accept newfags here, fuck off.
>>19049239Kurt Angle wasn't botched, that was Vince getting his revenge on Kurt for ditching him for TNA. Vince always gets his back even if it takes years. Vince really fucked Kurt over for that and Kurt should have seen it coming. He should have refused the Corbin match. Cena got big leagued on this one by The Rock. Travis Scott is the worst celebrity they've ever involved in main event shit.
>>19049634>me when I'm a retarded lying faggot or John Cena (legal name John Cena)
>>19049666The Rock is not at fault. Triple H is at fault for Cena's retirement tour being lackluster to the point that it's gonna be the worst retirement run by an all-time great in history.how about we stop blaming The Rock and TKO for Triple H's fuck-ups for once. in the immortal words of Owen Hart:> WELL ENOUGH IS ENOUGH AND IT'S TIME FOR A FUCKING CHANGE!> ENOUGH IS ENOUGH AND IT'S TIME TO START BLAMING HHH FOR CENA'S SHIT RETIREMENT RUN
oh so it's a worthless thread pretending flair stayed retired and didn't have a literal fucking heart attack against Jeff Jarrett.
Come home to AEW Cena, we'll let you fight Kenny Omega.
Maybe WWE just fucking sucks. You guys ever think of that?
>>19048532I am still mystified by The Rock's elevation to the board in TKO beyond the personal relationships which he has with the top brass of course, he just turns up very occasionally and fucks up a lot of best laid plans with his own "creative team" aka Brian Gewirtz and totally derailed Cena's retirement tour with an unplanned heel turn that could have worked had the WWE not already produced a fuck ton of face merch for every appearance! The WWE have a problem and it's called The Rock!
The source for this 'news' is Vince Russo, by the way.
>>19048532He needed Bray
>>19049747So it's definitely legit, then.
>>19049744I trust him. Russo is the most well connected guy in this business.
Blame Dwayne and whatever shoot retard at TKO wanted to collaborate with dumb nigger Travis Scott.
>>19049744how about we start blaming Triple H for the overall WWE product and the ratings being in the total shitter, with his uncreative lack of storylines and blatantly pushing only his own friends out of favoritism.Rock didn't fuck up Cena's retirement tour, nor did he originally want Cena to turn heel in the first fucking place. And now that Cena prematurely turned back babyface before SummerSlam, he's doing a whole lot of nothing.fucking sick and tired of people blaming The Rock and TKO whenever WWE's in trouble and does something bad, while turning around giving all the credit to Triple H for WWE doing good. Triple H never does anything good as a booker, ever.I'm giving all credit to The Rock and TKO should WWE decide to do something good and start dedicating themselves to being great again. And if everything goes wrong in WWE, i'm blaming Triple H for lower-than-ever ratings with Cody as the guy, blatant favoritism by pushing only his friends as champs (some of which even have zero business being champs in the first place), uncreative ideas for storylines and for listening to the IWC dorks too much.
>>19049747Vince Russo, constantly bangs on about how much he hates wrestling, can't stop talking about it for a living!!
>>19049755The Rock is the retard that brought in a leech like Travis Scott. You'd think a guy with respect for the business like him would actually think about the quality of people he's bringing in.
>>19049754>>19049760The Rock never wanted to collaborate with Travis Scott. It was Triple H's idea to have Travis Scott come work for the WWE.
>>19049747Aside from Dave Meltzer, Vince Russo has the most accurate reporting on WWE's backstage issues, so I'm inclined to trust this.
>>19049755not blaming The Rock for WWE's general malaise, just saying that his input doesn't help in any way!
>>19049747>>19049753>>19049759>>19049768this is the same Vince Russo that will NEVER acknowledge you guys as YouTube livestream chatters unless you all throw SuperChats his way. otherwise he'll just ignore you.
>>19048532okay but you conveniently forgot to mention he will reference other people by doing their finish?
>>19049754Rock fucked up Mania by leaving his storyline but HHH was the one who suggested Cena go heel.
>>19049747Tony couldn't possibly Fumble Cena/Edge, could he?
>>19049776The Rock had a better idea than Triple H. The whole "Sell Your Soul" thing, even though it was unnecessary, it was a storyline idea that worked and got people invested into it.Cody was supposed to turn heel in between Elimination Chamber and WM41, and be the one to sell his soul. Rock came up with that idea because he saw that ticket sales for WM41 were low, and saw that Cody wasn't cutting it as FOTC.
>>19049788The Rock left the WWE because he was pissed off that Triple H suggested that Cena turn heel instead of turning Cody heel. That's why Rock doesn't work for the WWE-TKO no more.It's more like he'd rather do more movies in Hollywood than deal with Triple H's bullshit. And yeah, Rock technically has the power to get Triple H fired (he's above Hunter in the TKO corporate ladder), but the only person who has more power than him besides Ari, is Nick Khan. Rock can try to get Ari to fire Hunter, but Nick would overrule him (lending credence to Hunter having Nick in his back pocket), and Ari doesn't give a shit about wrestling, he wants to make money without the drama while tending to his matters with his NBA connections. That's probably why Rock doesn't want to cause anymore waves behind the scenes, he'd rather just enjoy his paychecks and Hollywood than ever see Triple H again.
they say Ari Emanuel was The Rock's mentor, but Ari's a fucking snake in the grass. They say Ari's promoting Rock to take over the top seat of TKO for him, but... i have a feeling Ari will screw Rock over and choose Triple H to take the top seat instead of Rock.
>>19048532Vince would have booked it well
>>19048567Haitch is the softest man alive. That's why no ex wrestler has ever been a good booker
Hypothetically, If Cena goes to AEW how do they go about his persona? Do they acknowledge his history with WWE?
>>19049842not only is Haitch the softest man, but he's also a hateful vindictive person. He has a long history of being jealous of anyone that's considered better than him and his favorites, which leads to him burying them.
his opponents have been so far: >cody>randy>r-truth>jey>punk>drew>logan>sami>brock>ajits a solid listwhy are people complaining?
>>19049852Yup that's why Vince was the GOAT businessman. If you can make him money he sets aside all ego. If you can't make him money you're disposable. Compare this with Haitch hiring all his "guys" despite how dimeless they all are. Who in the fuck has ever paid to see Johnny Gargano, Alister Black, Rusev, etc?
>>19049779wtf who cares
>>19049877i would have never brought Johnny Gargano, Aleister Black & Zelina Vega, Rusev, Braun Strowman, Karrion Kross & Scarlett, etc back to the WWE in the first place.
>/pw/ having any level of media literacy and not inventing their own headcanon (IMPOSSIBLE)This is why no one likes this board.
Cena at Wrestle Kingdom confirmed
>all time greatLolLmao
Why does anyone give a shit? Hell be back in 5-8 years just like Goldberg and Rock
>>19048532Two things:1. It's Dwayne's fault that the greatest heel turn of all time was ruined. 2. It's Cena's fault that he can barely be on TV during his retirement tour.
>>19050091He did over 50 dates my dude.
I still like this "retiring in December" is a work with Cena staying on for Rumble in January to setup a final match at Mania in April.
>>19049793Rock Roman over rock Cody at the time would have killed businessCody turning heel to join Rock would have killed businessRock being involved in the turn and then disappearing and leaving Travis Scott in his place damaged business. Crown Jewel being just HHH making all decisions has put them back on the right track
>>19050192100%. All of the worst decisions since Triple H took over are the decisions that Triple H obviously had the least to do with.
>>19048532That’s what happens when Jews book the show to maximize profits
>Still blaming The RockNigga, HHH pretty much came out and said the heel turn was his idea.
>>19050488But abandoning the storyline was Dwayne's idea. The problem isn't the story, it's that there was no payoff.
>>19048532I sympathise with Cena.Never liked the kid-friendly superhero rapper gimmick, but I wasn't a child so that's fine, I wasn't in the target demographic.When his retirement tour was announced, I expected a big long detailed story that puts other guys over, since that's the sort of thing a guy like him would come back for and swing out on.The endless back and forth, the rehashing of old matches we've already seen, matches that were good then but now have very shitty repeats that will not stand the test of time, it's uninspired and uncreative.The heel turn? Why did they do that? Was Cena so eager for it, or did creative think the fans want that?He was at his best being the underdog putting heels over, and strong heels are something the WWE has a shortage of.For that matter they don't have strong babyfaces either. Wouldn't it be great if Cena's here to help but his age plays up and keeps him from being his best, and it's up to younger talent to save him from the super heels, who put that younger talent over together with Cena?That would've been better than the ragtag "hey remember the good matches" shit we got, and I'm sure other people can come up with their own ideas that are better than mine as well.
>>19050491HHH know his schedue, my dude. It was one and done stuff if anything Rock was supposed to have n angle with Cody but his heart went "Oops" so the story got canned
>>19050488They're babyfacing each other.Everyone involved fucked up and this covers it up.
>>19048532Then commit to the heel turn by not phoning in promos or by not turning up looking exactly the same as during your face run.
>>19048532Watch unreal. Cena doesn't care at all. He said even if the retirement run sucks he already had a great career.
>>19049764OK, how you know?
>>19048532Is he going out on his back or is John someone who doesn't appreciate the business that made him famous? Who books this crap
>>19050870If anyone deserves to go over on his last match, it's Super Cena
>>19048532Cena only has himself to blame. You can't just be like. Hi, this is my last year and then be I can only be around for these days and then decide that most of those dates you're going to either a do promos. The bare minimum or wrestle people multiple times that people really don't need to see you wrestle. I haven't watched since WrestleMania except some of the pay-per-views and I think that two of his opponents were r truth. When Ric flair retired he was still an active part of the roster. He was there every single week. His gimmick was. I have to wrestle every single week, every single pay-per-view and the time that I lose. That's it. I'm done. Shawn Michaels was still wrestling every single week Cena is not here every single week and the people that he associated his teal turn with are not there at all. One of them wasn't even a fucking wrestler so he could have said no to a lot of this shit and he could have made himself more available. Or just say you know what I'm not retiring this year. Next year is better like you'll know when you have better scheduling, but he's in everything now and he's in a bunch of movies. So yeah that's on him. He could have retired before all this could have chose any number of ways to do things and even then like when all the said and done he's not retired. Like I refuse to believe that 2025 is the last time that John Cena is going to wrestle like I could give two shits and a rat's ass if the mother fucker ever wrestles again, but I refuse to believe in a worldwide scene every single one of these fucking people. The people that you've mentioned specifically Shawn Michaels came back for fucking Saudi Arabian money and Ric flair has come back for any kind of money that is thrown his way. Boohoo do something about it on our way you can because you only have a handful of dates left if that and you need a match or 2 left. Congratulations you fucked up and you also decided that it'd be a good idea for you to get squashed by brock
>>19048532> with Cena, what's going to happen is, Cena's gonna go out there in December, wrestle somebody and that's going to be it. Let's say Cena goes out there to wrestle Gunther, then Cena's just gonna have a match with Gunther, give a retirement speech and walk away.Would've worked if it was Brock and he finally beat him clean on the way out. Brock can lose to Cena in his last match and still be a monster. We've seen him lose before.
>>19048532Big Match John is ALL ELITE BABY!!
>>19051469How in the actual Hell did you type this up so poorly
doesn't seem like there was any long term plan, and if there was wwe was always willing to change it because of what they thought to be bigger things ie the world title picture or whatever the rock feels like doing. but those things aren't bigger to the average fan than cena's retirement run so you could say their priorities were wrong.
>>19048567Is he trying to sabotage it on purpose so that Cena unretires because he was so happy with the retirement run?
>>19051525I didn't type it. I just speak to my phone and hope for the best because I don't proofread shit because none of you are worth that kind of time anymore. So it's up to you to either decide whether or not the incoherent nonsense that it decides to translate out of what I say is worth continuing reading and trying to decipher through. Sometimes when it's a brief message it's easier to not fuck things up and just talk things slowly. But these things come from the heart anon which side note is one of the only words that I have to actually write because I've learned that no matter how I pronounce that word, it will not write anon. Most of the time it just treats me like the fucking Chinese food bitch from fucking dude. Where's my car and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then
>>19048532It's crazy that John is making it seem like an AEW run is possible.
Both Dwaynetty and Haitch sabotaged his retirement run out of sheer envy against him
>>19053269I seriously doubt he'd ever do it, but if he did I wouldn't blame him one bit, and I say that as an E-chadThey had way too many fuck-ups with his run this year. Jumping to GayEW would be the perfect "fuck you" to them for thatThat atrocious heel turn mess was unforgivable
>>19053276i have no problem believing this even if it's not true
>>19053291Anon it is true.Ari and Nick are probably hating the fact that Vince was the one keeping those 2 tard wranglers and the company in check, wtih he gone and HHH being a fag as stephanie, and Dwayne desperate to leave the deal. They are desperate to fix the boat.Still is more stable than the Titanic and Costa Concordia that is AEW, but still there is no captain at that ship to keep order because the Lieutenants are power hungry and inferiority complexed retards.A perfect world would have Shawn and Austin on top , but haitch exiled shawn into NXT where is beating the red and blue in quality, while red and blue are fumbling badly under trips and road dogg.
>>19053329>AustinI don't know. We'd need to see.
>>19048547
>>19053342Austin and Shawn knows more of the business and what vince wanted than Trips.Trips is a insecure fag marksmark who's still anal over the entire curtain call til this day, both he and cripple zombie shitman hart are the biggest faggots who came from the same sack of flour.
It's TKOs fault. Everything is boring and soulless. Bring back Vince, who cares if he pooped on his gf
>>19048567I think hunter helmsey just sucks- it’s easy to believe that he is same the machevlian mastermind from his politicking days but in reality, i find it more believable that he simply has zero creativity, nor does he possess any abstract thinking
Tony Khan of all people booked better sendoffs to Bryan Danielson and Sting lol
>>19049239>>19049666Am I the only one who liked Kurt’s Angle’s retirement run? I thought it was fitting relative to his physical shape and on-screen role as the RAW GM- he had the shield match which was awesome, the hunter and Steph tag match with Rousey (another classic.)- the smackdown vs raw “under siege” survivor series, he also had some good bouts with Joe and Drew on RAW and was clearly being set up to be retired by Jason Jordan in a great storyline that was nixed due to his sudden neck injury. The narrative that Vince was out to get him and had him lose to Corbin as revenge for TNA is clearly bullshit with 2 minutes of critical thinking.
Baron Corbin rocks
It's his fucking fault for wanting his retirement match at December >"So John you excited for Wrestlemani-">"No im retiring at TLC: Tables Laddes and Chairs"
>>19048576All these buzzwords, because you cannot say he is wrong."Racist," "bigot," "homophobe," "islamphobe," "antisemite," "schizo," etc. All are fake, meaningless buzzwords meant to shut out legitimate discussion and the truth. You, like a good fat, gay, and brown goy cattle, used a buzzword created by your jewish masters all because you couldn't call that anon 'wrong.'Kys.
>>19048611This. It's fairly obvious Cena is going to get "injured" in his final match, it will be a ref stoppage and the story will be that he didn't complete his final appearance/match. Leaves his schedule open to "recover" (fuck off and film or do whatever else for a few months) before he finally comes back either at mania or in the run up to it. But this kind of puts us in the same spot where there's no real build to his final match. Unless the person that I jurea him is.... No. Enjoying the show?
>>19049333theres no vincerocks busy doing whatever the fuck he wantsits HHH then ontop suits that dont care cause they're getting pennies
>>19053545it's actually at SNME
>>19048532Think we'll see him pulled out for a Gathering of the Juggalos appearance?
>>19048532This bitch is unhappy about everything. What an unhappy bitch.
>>19049481Who was the quarterback for the Vikings that got traded to Miami and wasn't good anymore? Black guy, like 20 years ago
even Edge got a better retirement sendoff in 2011 when he had just won the WHC Belt only to give it up after doctors said he can't wrestle anymore because of his chronic neck injuries and subsequent surgery for it.Edge's initial retirement in 2011 was more memorable than Kurt Angle's, Goldberg's and John Cena's retirement runs.
You know what's funny to me?When Goldberg complained about how his retirement played out, a lot of people bashed him and several people called him ungratefulBut now I bet some of those same people are complaining about how WWE is handling Cena's farewellGoldberg is being vindicated in real time
>>19056585Daunte Culpeper
Seems like they know he's going to AEW when his contract is up
Are those really retirements if they worked matches after that?
>>19056900Basedberg wins again.
>>19048532BMJ will deliver a fine speech
>>19048532AEW gave sting (a 64 year old) a universally renowned retirement runwhy cant WWE do this with someone way easier to book and still in shape?
>>19057569Honestly retirement runs are the one thing I think I would trust Tony Khan to do regularly. With Triple H I think the only people I would trust him are with old NWA guys that he grew up watching
>>19057569Because everyone there knew that Sting was a league above them and saw the abysmal way he was treated in the WWE. Nobody there was a contemporary of his or thought their career would somehow be hurt by making Sting look good. No egos involved. Triple H is an enormously insecure homosexual that is incapable of realizing his career was what it was and he's moved on to be the booker instead of a wrestler. It is the same reason NXT was full of nothing but guys with obvious flaws that would keep them from surpassing him. This is the same guy who tried to big league Batista when he reached out to do cross promotions with Guardians of the Galaxy and treated him like he was still a rookie in Evolution for a shoot. Same guy who tanked several overtures from The Rock when that was still a thing people wanted to see by just not calling him back. Fucked up Goldberg's retirement. Fucked up Sting's retirement. Fucked up his own retirement trying to book himself as top dog when no one would have cared if he lived or died. Triple H believes he was the star of not only his own time with the company but all subsequent eras as well and will do anything he can to try to preserve that image.The man would rather see the WWE die than admit anyone else (besides Flair) could ever do anything better than he did. As far as Triple H is concerned the entire Cena era was really just him keeping the belt warm so the real star of the show could do something else.
>>19057569Sting went 29-0 and made everyone who worked with him look like a total retard, and he was too much of a self-mark to insist on losing
>>19048607Watching Brock kill John one last time was one of the highlights of my year. It never gets old, ever.
>>19048532This could have been just a tour with him fighting former rivals or going with the heel turn ala nwo/main event mafia where he beats former rivals and force them join him in attempt to fuck wwe
>>19049582“I’m going to love the person I love” was pretty weird
>>19056900ppl don’t like goldberg cause bret told them not to
>>19048532Fuck you
>>19057719I am 100% sure that Haitch HATES Austin and Jericho and has jealousy of Shawn backstage and behind his back, Austin because HE carried the damn company after Shawn left to treat his own personal demons, and DX were midcard jobbers wiht Billy Gunn being the one with more charisma than him, road dogg and chyna. And Jericho because even with every maneuvering he and chyna did backstage against him to humiliate him in front of Vince, Vince saw Jericho as his favorite as Shawn and Austin because he knew the Business unlike Hunter Hetard Helmsissy.
>>19049512it’s possible he’s just old fashioned and is honored to have any US president involved in what he’s doing
>>19057900>This could have been just a tour with him fighting former rivalsThis was what I was expecting at first
>>19057719>Sting was a league above themlmao. Sting sucks.
>>19057741and that's what he deserved, Sting absolutely deserved to go out on top. Say what you will about AEW but they did right on that one. Not only did they let Sting go out strong, they also made Darby a bigger name in the process.
>>19048532come to AEW Peacemaker
Word up
>>19048532They'll have him take the Intercontinental from Dom on either one of the two raws he has left or survivor series so he can be a grand slam champion and then drop it to someone new and young at Saturday Nights Main Event.
>>19059630Lame. Dom is boring and and should lose the IC belt asap, but not to BMJ.
>>19048532Besides the abysmal heel run, what was the biggest mistake they made for Cena's retirement?
>>19048547For me it'll be all shit with the AJ match being a nice throwback that didn't justify everything else.
>>19049870>CodyRuined by Travis>RandyLame like the entire heel run. Nobody wants the last Randy and Cena match have them switch face and heel.>R-TruthSquash.>JeyAnything with an Uso can't be better then mid.>PunkFine.>DrewDon't even remember it desu.>LoganGreat match.>SamiGreat match.>BrockShitty squash.>AJGreat match.
>>19051469Why the fuck would cena be wrestling every week, nobody does that anymore let alone a celebrity. fucking bizarre logic, he has appeared more than most of the active roster
>>19059718Advanced faggotry
>>19048547>because you got too many snowflakes on PW who are just happy with people being here, and they don't wanna fucking put pressure on people to put in the workbro this is a fucking imageboard you mark
The retirement tour was a letdown, but that AJ styles match saved the whole thing. I mean: WOW! Talk about absolute cinemaFirst they did Miz's move Then they did Jerico's moveThen they did HBK's moveThen they did Undertaker's moveThen they teased Rey's moveThen they did Alexa Bliss' moveThen they did Undertaker's move again Then they did Randy Orton's move *****1/2
>>19062809the AJ Styles match was lackluster because there was no story to it. and Styles ends up doing nothing with that match. Ain't nothing special about that match, and you look pathetic for cumming and creaming your pants over that exhibition match at Crown Jewel.sounds like something dorks like you and Mr SantiZap do.
>>19053466Pretty sure his body was completely destroyed at the end. So picking the safest yet most boring dude Corbin was a sad logical pick
>>19048542top kek
>>19048532He only respects Vince and not HHH
