Is there a more inexcusably bad angle in WWE history?I don't think anything can top the "you fucked your dead girlfriend" angle
>>19436153This is one of the greatest angles of all time.
>>19436153>Vince behind the camera coaching HHH how to fuck the coffinman is a little odd
>>19436153Hawk committing suicide…or was he pushed??? Was leagues worse. Anything where they use people’s real life Issues and usually it’s not even a draw it’s some fucking channel changer filler like Scott Hall’s drug addict and firing angle. Katie Vick was stupid, but funny jokes and unfunny jokes come from the same place. There’s much more egregious shit that rant funny and barely fictional.
>>19436153The real tragedy of this feud is that it killed Kane's second chance at real main event potential
>>19436171Yeah I don't get why they would center a world title feud around the "you fucked your dead girlfriend" angle, literally everyone came out of this looking worse
>>19436171It's that, the slim physique and the god awful mask design with the ginger goatee. Completely murdered his career
>>19436190I like that look a lot actually, showed off his arms and let him talkIt's why he got to work with Haitch in the first place imo
>>19436153I didn't think it was that bad because I thought the funeral home segment was done as a joke, then I watched it and it's actually that bad because they shot it entirely serious
>>19436168i liked the Scott Hall stuff. worked me as a kid
>>19436181Vince is a retard sometimes and booked shit to pop himself.
>>19436181>>19436294people still talk about it. I can't even remember anything that happened last week.
>>19436323The point of wrestling is to make money, this didn't make WWE a single dollar
>>19436323>people still talk about itShockmaster confirmed dime drawer
>WWE Executive Producer Kevin Dunn, stated that numerous warnings to WWE viewers about sensitive subject matter did air prior to the segment. “While the subject matter is sensitive, on balance this was an attempt at dark humor capitalizing on the popularity of programs such as CSI, Six Feet Under and X-Files,” said Dunn.The all-time worst WWE press release.
>>19436153>Is there a more inexcusably bad angle in WWE history?sure. the problem with this angle is triple nose. the guy just isnt any good on the mic. there were some wrestlers that could get anything over and would have done a far better job in this position. triple nose used to start raws with 20 or 30 minute promos and drove 1,000s of fans away
>>19436341Post a 20 minute Triple H promo that opened RAW, tranny. Since he did it every show you have one to show us, right?
>>19436281I’m not saying you can’t like it or you’re wrong. I’m just generally saying I find it worse to use real life stuff like that trying to make some money or get eyes on the product on the back of someone’s legit hard time. Seems worse to me than made up Katie Vick, made up Kane and Triple H humping a mannequin. Scott Hall with hard coming out of his mouth on TV was gross and probably didn’t look that much different than how he died on the floor with a shattered hip reaching for a gallon jug of Vodka Koolaid punch.
What about when jerry lawler king walked around barefoot in a barn because he has a kiss my foot match with brett hart, then brett hart shoved Jerrys own feets in his mouth and then jerry king had to go to his dentist and then he sent his dentist after Brett hart
>>19436344https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sAS0l4j_9sA
>>19436344as soon as austin and the rock left and cardiac h got his big push i checked out. sorry that i dont have autistic knowledge of the exact length of every awful promo he cut to start raw or smackdown some 20 years ago. but they are out there on youtube im sure
>>19436402He could chuck on any given RAW from 03 and there's at least an eighty percent chance the first thing you hear is the Evolution theme. The meme doesn't come from nowhere.
>>19436402Oh, so there's no 20 minute Triple H promo opening RAW and you're just a seething tranny, good to know
>>19436412Post an episode of RAW where HHH doesn't open the show.Go on, we're waitingOh, there's none? Heh, thought so.
>>19436424Yeah the world champion opens the show usually, that's how wrestling works
>>19436459not really
>>19436168What about the Edge/Lita/Matt Hardy love triangle? They couldn't keep their personal lives out of their professional ones and so the company managed to capitalize on it both by making money of the controversy and punishing them for bringing their dirty laundry to the forefront by forcing them to make money.
>>19436459Looks like someone can't find an episode of Raw where HHH doesn't open the show, let alone without a promo.You have been intellectually bested. This is what arguing in good faith looks likereally though anon relax nigga
>>19436459>The world champion should open a wrestling show either with a wrestling match and if he doesn't, let someone else do it.FTFY
>>19436470I didn't say he didn't open the show, I asked you to post an egregiously self indulgent segment that went on for too long, then I would agree with you. Otherwise you are complaining about the world champion doing what the world champion typically does just because you have a derangement syndrome
>>19436469Matt Hardy got a lot of grassroots support online and he called in to an online thing to bitch at Edge who was with Lita. He was also calling into their official radio show and stuff angry as shit.Also, he was fired first. WWE didn't try to capitalise on it until it was getting ugly.All this said, yeah that feud was fucking golden and made Edge in a way that previously hadn't. A good example that negative situations can be worked into wrestling yeah.NTA btw
>>19436489https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETd60AFQ360can't work this stuff damn i forgot how good it was
>>19436489Matt Hardy's had a weird career
>>19436487you got a taste of your own medicinePost literally any episode of RAW where HHH doesn't open it with a 50 minute promo right now by the way, if you're so great.
>>19436500Sure. This one is opened by Eric Bischoff and Jonathan Coachmanhttps://youtu.be/dPj4C6KAe6U?si=e0y4L-EObRYb0P6q
>>19436510Kek, got his smartass
>>19436510I really just made you go to youtube, painstakingly find the right clip and come back just to find out that your footage is fake, HHH opened that show.Find me literally any RAW where HHH didn't deliver a soliloquy for the entire first hour.
>>19436153I dated a girl named Katie Vick and showed her this and she dumped me
I have no idea what the lore of Kane is even supposed to be. I always assumed that Taker burned him when he was a kid and he disappeared after that but apparently he was in a college wearing the mask?
>>19436589just off the top of my head I remember the raw in Japan started with bischoff
>>19436930You're overthinking it. Kane didn't wear the mask when he was younger iirc but had a horrible disfigurement. Trips wearing the Kane mask was just to illustrate, crudely, that he was mimicking Kane.
>>19436956A lot of them did, I probably shouldn't have wasted energy baiting but I think the actual answer is that 30 minute show opening promos are just a WWE thing in general. I remember in 2014 the Authority would just come out half the time and 'work' the fans before anything happened.
>>19436972well yeah that's the format and and it works swimmingly
>>19436995Well it wasn't a thing when they drew the most money but it's not the end of the world, just made raw kind of formulaic.
>>19437000when wasnt it a thing?
>>19436589>Find me literally any RAW where HHH didn't deliver a soliloquy for the entire first hour.it was such a common thing everybody was clowning him for doing it. see here>>19436382>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sAS0l4j_9sA>>19436972>30 minute show opening promos are just a WWE thing in generalright both wcw and the wwf back then started doing them BUT triple nose took them to an entirely different level of boring which is what made the one anon seethe and claim otherwise
>>19437009Before Triple H.
>>19437009Golden Era of coursealso the car crash attitude era didn't waste 20-30 minutes on 1 guy doing a promo
>>19437025vince would just open the show before that so idk what you mean
>>19437049he'd be getting kicked in the balls by austin and there'd be a run in to set up a main event and then crash holly runs and there's a hardcore title match while the opening segment has gone onthis has taken 8 minutes
>>19436153>Is there a more inexcusably bad angle in WWE history?yes. i mentioned this the other day on here but ill say it again when the undertaker tried to embalm steve austin. totally awful. nobody believed the undertaker was going to do this not even for a second thats what made it so bad. it was embarrassing to watch such a stupid thing occur and being treated seriously by the wrestlers and announcers
>>19437123This was based though.
>>19437145thought no one
>>19436168It's crazy how they ruined LOD, and even towards the end when they were booked to oblivion they still got decent cheers
>>19437253>It's crazy how they ruined LODthey were still relatively young. animal was born in 1960 and hawk was only 2 or 3 years older
>>19436153Better than anything shitty gAyEW has ever done
>>19437145Said the retard.
>>19436153Damn WWEs downfall was pretty alarmingly fast after they won the war
>>19437865Yeah cause Vince didn't have to try anymore so he booked shit to make himself laugh.
>>19436153Honestly, not really, because there's nothing good about this entire thing, it's a storyline that shouldn't have been done to begin with that made everyone look worse and would have never had any other result. I can't even think about the logic to justify it, what were the fans supposed to think?
You can tell the outrage over this is people getting triggered but they don't want to admit it so they say the writing sucks kek
>>19436153Booking John Cena at the top for a decade was pretty inexcusable.
>>19436153Not that I can think of
>>19437865For me, it's the three bizarre business ventures that were basically a money pit>XFL>WWF New York>WWE Films
>>19437914True, necrophilia was just that compelling an angle. This is all just heat. Cerebral assassin, baby.
>>19436153Still better than the Devil storyline in AEW because at least this didn't kill someone's career
>>19436153When Sngroli Oat slept with Vrygos
>thread about bad angles>only good angles are postedhave sex
>>19442682I'm not allowed to
>>19436153Aews devil angle is up there
>>19437028>attitude era didn't waste 20-30 minutes on 1 guy doing a promoBullshit. For a time there, every fucking Raw and Smackdown started with a McMahon-HHH era 20 minute promo