I don't care how bad the heel turn was financially, alliance leader Steve Austin was top tier television
>>19439088Angle making him cry was kino
I liked when he would bully that midget Taz
>>19439088It's not even the fact that he turned heel that ruined everything, it's that they decided to do it a second time after nearing undoing the damage of the first for a cheap swerve
>>19439088He was so good at playing heel it's great to go back and watch in retrospect. Especially in the ring, he was great at acting like a bastard and was having his best matches since 1997. Everything he did in and out of the ring with Angle was great.
>>19439088Same
>>19442359Thank you
>>19439088Austin's heel run from X7 - Invasion was pretty lame, but it improved dramatically after the invasion PPV. Loved his backstage segments with Shane, Steph, RVD, and Booker. Also the running gag with Debra's terrible cookies.
Early birds
>>19443123That I agree with, the whole two man power trip thing felt just like regular Steve Austin except he's a bad guy now, which kind of proves the point that they shouldn't have done it because they had no idea what to do with him, until they decided to turn him into a complete 180. I know Austin sometimes people say that he had a bit of an ego and didn't want to devalue himself, but props to the guy for agreeing, still at the peak of his career, to make a complete idiot out of himself on TV
>>19443137Austin tried his hardest to make the heel run work, the fans just didn't want it. Which is weird because the fans took to Corporate Rock and Hollywood Hogan but they did not want heel Austin
>>19443390I think it is because the fans shoot loved Austin. Rock and Hogan were very popular but people actually just loved Austin for real & thought he was cool and had no interest in booing him. I don't think the fans would have ever turned on him naturally. He was even able to beat Debra and come back like nothing happened
>>19439088Interesting opinion
>>19444300Thanks
>>19443390Did he though? He was like MJF where he clearly was going for laughs more than he was going for boos after Triple H tore his quad and he was partnered up with Angle so why should anyone boo him?
>>19439088>>19439108>simpcuck steve austin was raped in the stone cold winter of 2001 by the Olympic Hero Kurt Angle with a broken freakin neck. >Oh it's true! It's damn true
>>19443424>Rock and Hogan were very popular but people actually just loved Austin for realLMAO, nice cope by wifebeater's trashy fans
>>19439088His theme was GOAT even though he only used it like 10 timeshttps://youtu.be/Tff5rEZ0HWc
Austin and WWE went full retard with his heel turn. Hogan knew how to do it>no more red and yellow>no more America YES theme song>no more say prayers, take vitamins, etcAustin was pretty much the same guy. Same outfit, same theme song (this was the biggest mistake, audience was trained to cheer when they heard that glass break), same "raise some hell guy". He should have been a sellout and simp to Vince to the point where Vince got sick of him. I always imagined a story where Austin surprises Vince with a new corvette to replace the one he destroyed with cement.
>>19445488What the hell are you talking about, man? Maybe the first half, by the time the Alliance rolled around they had Austin crying and begging like a bitch on camera for mercy from Kurt Angle
>>19445496>Maybe the first half,I was mostly tuned out by then.> had Austin crying and begging like a bitch on camera for mercy from Kurt AngleNot the same thing. The crying villain is typical. The Austin/Vince dynamic should have been flipped on it's head. At first Vince is happy Austin joins him, then he realizes that nuAustin is a brown noser that is of no use to him.
>>19445496Because Austin and Kurt wanted to play out this, not even the rock could pull out the comedy both did, since Austin and Kurt acts better than the rock.
>>19445488>Austin should've had a new theme song (audience was trained to cheer when they heard that glass break). He should have been a sellout and simp to Vince to the point where Vince got sick of him. I always imagined a story where Austin surprises Vince with a new corvette to replace the one he destroyed with cement.Pretty good ideas desu. Particularly the corvette one.
RAW after Survivor Series 2001 killed wrestling and I will die on that hill
>>19445525They should've had the Alliance win and then the WWF wins back at WrestleMania because that's classic wrestling booking. But Vince had too much ego for that to ever happen
>>19445535Apart from the lack of big stars, the biggest problem with the invasion was that Vince's ego was too big to make the WWF look weak to the invaders. Which makes literally no fucking sense because it's a fake storyline and he owns both sides
>>19445535For starters, Vince should've bought out all the big names. He had storylines and big money matches for years at his disposal that would've made everyone crazy rich but no let's berry these wrasslers instead.
>>19439088>Booker T attacks "Stone Cold" Steve Austin, starting the WCW invasionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91dABFCBAn4>Lance Storm begins the Invasion on RAWhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e80yZxz-Kr0>"Stone Cold" sides with the Alliance against WWF during the WCW Invasionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSK5NGR8n08>Kurt Angle uses milk truck to soak The Alliancehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6Q7UpGv0Uc
>>19439088I like austin as heel i think it didnt work because there were no big faces
>>19445544there is also the fact that vince couldn't hold his horse for 2002 once the fucking time warner contract was over.
>>19445641https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oUHthmwpd4
>>19445795BAH GAWD! AUSTIN IS TRANSFORMING INTO THE WABBAJACK!
Will always mark for Austin's 2001 nu metal theme
>>19445517>The Austin/Vince dynamic should have been flipped on it's head. At first Vince is happy Austin joins him, then he realizes that nuAustin is a brown noser that is of no use to him.Isn't that exactly what happened? Does no one remember Austin serenading Vince with his shitty guitar?
>>19446040Sort of, he wanted the old Stone Cold back to lead the WWF against the alliance and that led him to talking to the Rock to get him to come back and that's why Austin joined the alliance.>>19445535>They should've had the Alliance win and then the WWF wins back at WrestleManiaThat's literally what I thought the night of Survivor Series.
