Triple Gay ruined Cena's retirement tour. Was it on purpose or was it just Triple Gay's usual bad booking and bad writing? Do you think Cena secretly resents Triple Gay for it?
I blame tko
>>19462228Yeah the ufc making our men beat up veggies
>>19462224>Do you think Cena secretly resents Triple Gay for it?the interviews he's been doing implies so
>>19462228Its always best to blame the people in charge not the person "in charge"
>>19462235>not the person "in charge"this isnt a nick khan thread is it?
>>19462228It was obviously Rock who set back plans
>>19462224It's incredibly based. Cena is the biggest egomaniac in wrestling history and the fact that he's the only wrestler to ever have a "retirement tour" shows his pure narcissism. This is for every guy he's ever buried. Fuck Cena and long live Triple H
He's just incompetent.Has he ever booked anything good? Not counting Bloodline because that was Vince.
>>19462538Paul, please just go to work.
Paul is shit
>>19462538>cena's the only wrestler to have a retirement tourtypical /pw/ retardation levels
>>19462660Every wrestler who has ever retired just had one last match not an entire LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME IM RETIRING big deal tour
>>19462538Now this is proper bait
>>19462746I’m pretty sure it was WWE’s idea since this is a popular trend in the NBA
>>19462224i'd say it was more the rock's fault but the truth is that heel cena never would've worked regardless of how many smarks say otherwise or have convinced themselves that it could've worked in their fantasy booking headcanon. case in point, they tried this before with austin and guess what it didn't work.>b-but hoganhogan was literally lightning in a bottle and trying to recapture that is just as retarded as trying to recreate the NWO.>b-but romannobody likes roman so it's no coincidence that what's considered his best work involved him barely being on TV.
>>19462228Nick Khan is on record as being almost completely untouched in WWE booking and just about all of it comes down to H.
>>19463153>they tried this before with austin and guess what it didn't work.Austin was universally cheered by huge crowds as he took the company to record heights. Super Cena was hated by many of those who cheered Austin, he was always booed more than he was cheered until the crowds dwindled and only little kids and their parents remained.
>>19463153>hogan was literally lightning in a bottleHe did it again with the NWO, which you yourself mentioned. And Austin/Rock did it again, too. Wrestling isn't some magical alignment of ancient scrolls, it's just not making bad hiring, writing, and booking choices. The people in charge are just retards. 60s-80s writers wrote kino after kino in Hollywood, much harder that writing shitty wrestling. It's not that hard or magical to get right if they people doing it don't suck.
>>19462224Hold on. You think the guy with the biggest ego in the business, who never had to earn his spot because he was slurping Kliq dick and then banging the boss' daughter, would get jealous of a guy that actually was the top guy in WWE that Cunter always pretended was actually him?Nah, couldn't be.
>>19462538>Cena is the biggest egomaniac in wrestling historyCunter is easily the biggest egomaniac. He has a long history of making everything about him and for holding down guys that he feels threatened by (sometimes unsuccessfully though).
>>19462224only the smarkiest of smarks would think cena gives a shit, dude just want's to get it over with and go home, he's old
>>19463153>blaming DwayneCongrats for falling for Haitch's psyop.Dwayne was only in the Elimination Chamber PPV due to TKO noticing Haitch's booking was drawing 0 dimes and telling him to sell tickets.Haitch didn't want to book The Rock since the previous WM was saved by him.His ego would die since it'll be the 2nd time he gets saved by Dwayne if he does.
>>19463352This
Why did TKO take over WWE when TKO is a broken company run by pajeets bleeding money only held up by rich donors
WWE is a publically traded company nowHHH has no significant stake in itwhy dont they just remove him and try different creative team?
The person most responsible for ruining it is The Rock who injected himself into a neo-NWO angle then abandoned it suddenly after saddling it with Travis Scott. Cena also just isn't that good, and there's a ton of revisionist history around him, WWE pretending Cena was a great star is revisionism on the same level as pretending HHH was a top 3 attitude era star. Cena presided over a constant, never-ending decline in viewership and mainstream appeal, and was widely hated by most fans. The only feather in his cap is merch sales, but anyone who went to a live show with an IQ over 80 knows that the reason for that is that they basically only offered Cena merch for a long time, to the point that even Orton complained about it a few times, you'd go to buy an Orton shirt and they wouldn't even have them. So yeah, initial heel turn angle was botched by The Rock, Cena himself just isn't that good of a performer, and now to cap it off they're giving his last match to a guy that has no history with him, no chemistry, and doesn't really need it. You can blame the last on HHH, though I'm sure Cena has say, but the biggest problem was always Dwayne.
>>19463506>donorsLaunderers
>>19463677Dumbass.>>19463352
>>19464054What I said is backed by clearly observable fact and being able to think properly. What you said is backed by IWC faggot shit and being a gay retard. The dumbass is you. The dumbass as been you throughout your disappointing life.
>>19464120Triple H is the booker, brother.Did Dwayne salvage last year's WM? Yes.Was Dwayne asked to salvage Elimination Chamber this year? Yes.
>>19462538Sting had a retirement tour
>>19464136And Dwayne is over HHH, was clearly meant to play a larger role and then got mad and walked. Did Dwayne salvage last year's WM? No, not really, he kind of stank up the joint. Was he asked to salvage Elimination Chamber? Neither of us knows, but he didn't either way. Dwayne is on the board, "the booker" doesn't get to tell him no. He brought in Travis Scott, had a hissy fit and walked. His faggy Hollywood reputation didn't fall out of the sky.Is HHH blameless? Nope, never said he was. Is he the biggest factor? Obviously not. Most wrestling fans are pretty low IQ, IWC faggots most of all, so that'll be lost on you, but that's the way it is.
>>19464155Dwayne is a TKO stooge, not the booker of WWE.Roman was barely doing any promos and Rock carried the feud with Cody.He was asked go salvage Elimination Chamber by Ari. Read up.How was Paul able to book Travis Scott who was Dwayne's pick and left Dwayne at home watching WM?Paul's the booker fullstop.
>>19464249>Dwayne is a TKO stooge, not the booker of WWE.TKO owns WWE. I don't know if you're trying to lose the argument in a kayfabe kind of way or if you sincerely don't understand, but Dwayne is higher up than HHH. HHH doesn't get to tell Dwayne no. It's the other way around. "Read up", "fullstop", "fr fr ong ya herd" and so on.Dwayne interjected himself, he brought in his no show celebrity friend, he got mad, he left the story hanging, that's the way it is. HHH booking faggot scott for some show after Dwayne brought him in has nothing to do with nothing. IWC troons have a bug up their ass about certain people, HHH especially, so that's always the excuse of first resort, but if you had an IQ above room temperature you wouldn't need this explained to you so many times. Dwayne has much more of a final say than HHH ever has or will. The majority of the flop goes back to the heel turn being centered on a guy who then stopped showing up.
>>19464269NTA but I don't think either of those two guys have as much of a say as the shareholders and the jews' board of director. Pauletty probably can't do anything other than what he's been doing, and Rock is just there as a mediator of sorts to give some sort of insider credibility to the faceless nameless. All they care about is turning WWE into this grand spectacle with approved celebrity cameos and securing records profits with the safest possible booking that ensures there would be no interference from the wrestling people wanting to go into business for themselves or for the sake of purism.As far as Rock's aborted storyline, it probably got meddled by heavy hitting hollywood lawyering, and him being a complete Sellout means that he will continue to kiss their ass as long as they keep him relevant on one stage or another. I think Cena's last media run where he talked about the influence of insurance companies into his retirement tour is a big sign that WWE has never had to cave in to major entertainment companies as much as it does now. That's the one thing that is completely dead and gone with Vince stepping down: They simply have nobody who can pull leverage for them anymore.
>>19464269Why would Dwayne waste his time on WWE? He's bigger than them.>Dwayne interjected himselfMultiple reports said that Paul's dimeless booking was drawing 0 dimes for Elimination Chamber and Ari himself told Dwayne to salvage it.>no show celebrity friendHe showed up on WM though. Which Paul booked while Dwayne was sitting at home watching WM.Paul has a huge fucking ego since the 90s and it's blatantly obvious he doesn't want The Rock to keep bailing him out ever since they feuded back then.
>>19464332>Why would Dwayne waste his time on WWE?Because he bought a spot on the board to do precisely that, until it wasn't working and he got angry about it to go Black Adam some other property. I don't know, I can't keep explaining to you that the Earth is round and having you jeet your way through the idea again, "but saar, there are reports I saw in greentext saar", it's just obnoxious. I remember being a wrestling fan in the 90s and getting kind of upset at how people would look down on it, but at this age I kinda get it, wrestling fans are just obnoxiously stupid. You are spiritually African to still be arguing this and not getting it.
>>19464345>he bought a spotLmao>reports are bullshitDwayne said it himself. And TKO could just call him out for lying but they didn't.
>>19464373>oh yeah he bought a spot lmao you think you just buy a lot of stock and eventually get representation huh!?>and why didn't TKO call out their own board member unprofessionally instead of acting the way corporations always act, huh!? checkmate!Again, wrestling fans are such drooling faggot retards that it's no wonder the reputation for wrestling has always been so poor. You can spend half an hour struggling to fashion a thought, and "oh yeah well why didn't TKO cut a promo on a board member!?" was the point you arrived at. Jesus Christ.
>>19464396Man, you're so fucking retarded. You can't argue against my points, start making up lies and calling me names like an uncivilized baboon.
>>19464420>you can't argue against my pointsI have argued against your "points" (which is a little generous) repeatedly. You're too much of a retard to realize this, which is why it isn't "calling names" when I refer to you as a knuckle dragging tranny, because you are demonstrably retarded. When your point is something as gay and retarded as "oh yeah well why didn't TKO unprofessionally call out it's own board member!?" like you think real life is a wrestling promo, pointing out how fucking ridiculous that is and how retarded you are is a perfectly valid response, indeed the only response. What did you think was going to happen, that you were going to make your dipshit gorilla noises and I was going to pretend like you were a serious person making really good points? You're a dumb fuck repeating greentext and trying to apply your malformed marble brain to the task of arguing about something you don't and can't understand. Sorry, I'm not going to pretend for you. You're a shoot retard.
>>19462224Haitch isn't a booker.He has a room of writers to blame when things are bad, and to take credit from when things are good.
>>19462538Bruce Blitz won!>>19464432You’re an antismark amermutt retardDeal with it
>>19462224the season finale isn't until tomorrowthis is wrestlinganything can happen
>>19462224I hate this mf fr
>>19462224Everyone is super hyped for Cena’s last match. It’s all over social media. Smarks deserve the rope.
>>19467791I'm super hyped for John Egomaniac to finally get fucking lost
>>19467791>dude trust me
>>19467791>Everyone is super hyped for Cena’s last match
>>19467900>gunther retires goldberg>hurrrr Im going to have gunther retire cena too in the same yeartriple h is a fucking retard
>>19462224Didn't the rock and his pet rapper nigger screw it up
>>19463167>>19463181Its always fun reading effortpost replies where it's clear the guy missed the entire point of what hes responding to
>>19467876>I have no life and am unaware about how normal people feel about wrestling
>>19467932we dont sign our posts here
>>19467920>TKO tells Rock to save Elimination Chamber's dimeless booking>Dwayne gives Paul the perfect storyline>he doesn't want to book Dwayne 2 Manias in a row>just book the rapper and psyops fans into thinking it's Dwayne's fault
There’s exactly 2 times ive head normies mention wrestling in the last 4 years. Vince getting KWABbed and Cena turning heel. All they had to do was just let him run a proper heel gimmick for 10 months. They didn’t need rappers that have nothing to do with him. No need to insert any WMG Endeavor clients into it. Just have Cena be a heel. He had plenty of ideas for it. He’s been thinking about it for an over a decade. Then at the Rumble have one of the Coconut niggas or whoever you want as your heel going forward do something that makes even dastardly heel Cena revert back take the title off him. Let him put a bow on his career at Mania as a face. The lazy shit they tried to pull with the>Im not a heel, you fans are the ones who are heels. I’m not changing shit about my presentation. It killed any of that initial buzz deader than dead and it was over and forgotten weeks later.
>>19462224The issue is he let the Rock get involved and the Rock let Travis Scott get involved. The Rock outranks HHH and can literally do whatever he wants in WWE. However, he's such a fame whore that he can be swayed by popular opinion. Honestly, nothing would've been good enough for a Cena farewell tour. The fact that it's ending on SNME and not Mania is already a fart.
>>19467903I am uncomfortable by how much HHH likes an Austrian who is Fascist-coded.
>>19462538>>19463210Bret's got them both beat in terms of ego, but he was too much of a self-mark shitter to politic into a position of any power.
