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Jeff jerrett is shooting
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>>19481694
BASED double j truth nuke
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The subhuman has spoken
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>>19481694
BASED Last Outlaw
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>>19481694
double j is a top 5 carny ever so i would consider his words gold
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>JJ's retirement tour was dead ass dropped because he wasn't gonna put over Manlet Friedman at the end
Based JJ.
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>>19481694
>the guy who created LOLTNA complaining about creative decisions
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>>19481694
TRUTHNUKE
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>>19481694
MY WORLD
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>>19481694
CHOSEN ONE
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>>19481694
I hate this motherfucker, but something something broken clock
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>>19481694
Not one single person ever bought a ticket to see JJ
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>>19481694
Absolutely based. JJ with the hot take again. 100% correct.
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JJ will show them how to do a proper retirement.
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As someone who missed that part of his career what was slap nuts about?
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>>19481694
You'd think a fucking Jarrett would understand going out on your back.

Oh wait, this is Jeff Jarrett, so of course he doesn't understand anyone going over the role he sees himself in.
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>>19481694
Wrestling doesn't end so he's retarded
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>>19481944
It ended years ago. Gunther would never beat cena if anyone still gave a fuck
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>>19481957
Shows what you know. Cena's retiring, and Cena is old school enough to do it right and go out on his back.
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>>19481694
If Jeff Jarrett is talking then I am listening
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>>19481979
What I meant was gunther would never be the last opponent if anyone cared. This shit was meaningless
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>>19481694
He's still seething about his retirement run getting canceled by big Tonedawg
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>>19481979
There's been plenty of top level old school guys that didn't go out on their backs. Out of the ones that did, how many helped make the guy that pin/submitted them?
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>>19481694
imagine slappin' nuts to Kurt's daughter
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double fucking j shooting from the hip
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>I'm happy in misery, I want my role models and sports teams to lose, cause it's cool and edgy and you're stupid if you don't too.
Fucking reddit moment. You know why those "loss" moments matter? Because there's complexity to it that undermines it being a loss. Watch gran turino ffs.
Cenas tap out has as much complexity as a 4 panel Web comic.
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>>19481694
>Jeff Jarrett is the last thing you see before your favorite wrestling company dies
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>>19481694
kek americans, and particularly wrestling fans, are such childish retards
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>>19482409
>I hate everything about America. The films, the music, the hobbies.
It's weird how all you foreignfags secretly wish you were American even to the point of invading our country illegally.
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>>19482466
nah im a german übermensch chad, and not a larping one like you 0.001% (mixed with 33% mongolian and 67% ashkenazi jewish) cultureless retard and i would shoot kill myself if i was american
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>>19482466
Nobody wants to be American though. It's a shithole now and Trump is making it worse.
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>>19482471
killing yourself is cringe, hans
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>>19481694
BREE WOO BREE WOO
TRUTH NUKE
BREE WOO BREE WOO
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>>19482471
>>19482486
>prowrestling is an American ideal/concept
Like I said, you are foreigners begging for a McDonald's to open up in your village. It finally happens. And then you spend everyday eating there complaining that the food sucks now.
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>>19481699
we don't sign our posts here
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>>19481694
He never watched The Wrestler
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>>19481938
He just started saying that and everyone thought it was funny
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>>19482667
Yes we do homo
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Double J never misses
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>>19481699
That's what everyone thinks when you speak.
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>>19481694
No no, Jeff but you see, the hero must die so he elevates the younger villian for the next movie , that’s what the business is all about
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>>19481711
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61xC_sLLA-U
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>>19482686
This but unironically
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>>19482701
Drumpf
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>>19482576
>He shills for the United States of Israel
>posts pictures of a mutt
KEK
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>>19481694
This and Flair HBK are the greatest last matches ever and his comparison would make sense if
>Superhero has endless movies for two decades straight, actor playing the hero is retiring, and dies in the last movie as the next generations takes over
Or
>Old QB plays against new QB and loses in his final game and smiles at the end
In which case, everyone would accept that and it's only in wrestling where people are this retarded
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Double J loves Avengers? KEK
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>>19482471
Hitler shoot killed himself
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did tony smile as he did the snap
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>>19481694
He's an idiot that hasn't left the lower-mid card in his life, even when he owned various wrestling companies he was still mid-low tier
>Guy's hilariously average to low tier
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>>19482811
this was very much not one of the greatest last matches ever lmao

watch something other than e-slop
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>>19481694
based double j with the smartest take so far
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>>19482969
Stupid e-swine have been gaslit into thinking that HBK was actually good. Apparently Flair didn't think it was good enough because he did several other matches after that.
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>story of the match is that the Never Give Up Guy gives up
>"people" lose their minds
Genuinely be too high level for other wrestlers and smarks.
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>>19481694
you finna know jarett would NEVER let anyone go over him in his last match
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>>19481694
Guess he's banking on everyone forgetting when he was running TNA.
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>guy who never drew a dime as a wrestler or a promoter has an opinion on big league match booking
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>>19483009
TNA was fine, even fun when hum and Russo were running it. JJ could be a self mark but I enjoyed it.
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>>19483019
Double J drew more dimes than HHH at least, and he didn't have to marry the boss' daughter to do it.
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>>19483007
Jarrett put over Flair in his last match by passing out in the figure four. that was a good finish and it was so fitting for Flair to end his career at an indie show because the indies are the only places where good wrestling has survived
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>>19482311
>tfw never have a threeway with taytay and double J's daughter
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>>19481694
For all the bullshit Double J is unironically a better booker and understands wrestling better than Haitch
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>>19481694
Jeff "Double Worked" Jarrett
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>>19481943
He's criticizing the way Cena went out by tapping out and smiling
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>>19483394
He never put anyone over in TNA while he was owner of the company the only people that had matches with him where already established talent and he still won most of the matches.
Even he did a humiliation ritual to Kurt Angle of all people when he was the one legend who cared to put TNA on the map.
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There is nothing wrong with Cena losing, but tapping out like a bitch after a mediocre match ain't it. Hopefully John goes to AEW for one last run and real retirement angle.
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every time i see and hear stuff about jeff jarrett he seems to talk a bit of sense and everyone respects him then i remember how TNA was booked
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>>19481694
Oh you mean like the time where you set up a story where you'd win the Owen Hart tournament to honor your friend and Hangnail destroyed you, Jeff?
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>>19481943
>You'd think a fucking Jarrett would understand going out on your back.
Everybody knows that’s the unwritten rule though so there’s no surprise. Gunther doesn’t gain anything winning that way, it needed a new storyline to come out of it such as Cena being cheated by The Rock, Triple H, Travis Scott, CM Punk. Then it’s why did they help Gunther and what does Gunther do next.
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>>19481694
What ever happened to his retirement tour?
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>>19483583
Cancelled just a couple of months in because no one wanted to see it
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>>19481694
this coming from the guy who spent all those years booking himself to beat every hot babyface TNA had?
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yeah I too love when the old veteran beats the main villain before the hero gets to fight him.
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>>19483485
>Hopefully John goes to AEW
Lmao
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people are such babies now

Rocky would never be made today

and then they complain when every new movie is shit
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>>19483806
When Rocky lost to Apollo Creed it was still a feel good ending. When Rocky lost to Mr T it wasn't the end of the story. Rocky beat the Russian in his retirement match. Rocky vs that black guy in Rocky 6 is Cenas inevitable Saudi blood money one last time match that will happen a few years from now.
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>>19483806
They didn’t do a Rocky finish, they went into a tepid closing stretch with a retarded high school play brained ending that the live crowd rightfully shit on because Rocky beat the foreigner. Paul books like 2015 Reddit poster when the company is doing a nostalgia and is fully MAGA compliant, it’s a total mess
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>>19482694
>he ain't dead he ain't THE ROCK
since when was this a thing? it used to be
>he ain't dead he ain't Jeff
right?
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>>19483857
They did the Obi Wan turns into a force ghost finish except Cena ain't turning into a force ghost but fucks off to Hollywood to suck jewish cocks and Gunther ain't Darth Vader but a dork who got punked by Super Punker and Yeetzilla
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>>19481694
Jarrett isn't wrong, but he is a hypocrite. As a heel in WCW and TNA, he went over babyfaces in big matches all the time.
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Well I guess we just can’t have heels win anymore because it will hurt weak-minded faggots like Double J’s feelings. We just need a babyface that never loses for decades like Bruno, because apparently 60s-80s WWF is what wrestling is all about.
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>>19481694
Do all AEW talent watch WWE?
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>>19483092
That’s not saying shit because the only reason Jeff Jarrett ever had a job in the business was because of who his daddy was.
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>>19484004
wrestling was big in the 80' and from 97 to 02
the former was
>Hulk wins lmao
the latter was
>Stone Cold wins lmao

you pauldronies are so fucking stupid
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>>19484004
Who is the big babyface being set up to knock off the guy who retired Goldberg and John Cena? Punk? LA Knight? Unless Bronn turns face and starts going by Steiner, I don't see anyone doing it.
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>>19482471
>proud of being from a country that's been BTFO by everyone and is now a Turkish colony
lol
lmao even
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>>19484028
Oh they definitely already fucked up Gunther by having him tap out to Yeetman. They don’t really have any young babyfaces that could dethrone Gunther either aside from maybe Oba. WWE’s booking still fucking sucks, but there isn’t anything wrong with a young dominant heel making an old babyface veteran tap out.
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>>19483806
Rocky explicitly goes the distance. It's the entire point of the fucking film. You have accidentally proved everyone you hate right.
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>>19481694
I wanted Cena to win just based on the crowd reaction, but this is retard logic from Jarrett. Unlike a hero slop movie, wrestling doesn't just end after a 3-act structure. It keeps moving, so having Gunther lose to someone who's retiring is completely counter intuitive. Now Gunther has something to push him along for months as the guy who retired Cena instead of him just disappearing again for another 2-3 months.
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>>19484080
Nah, he's right

Superman doesn't go out on his back. He saves the day and flies off into the sunset.

It hurts gunther 0% to lose this match and all winning does is get him boo'd hard for like a week until everyone forgets.
Meanwhile, people will talk about how they botched Cena's farewell tour FOREVER
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it's not the final wrestling show ever. This would be like having Obi Wan beat Darth Vader in Star Wars and then the movie continues.
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>>19484120
no, you idiot, it's Cena's career that is ending and the feud with Gunther

He will not return. This affects nothing else happening in the "movie."
And no, that's not what it's like. It's like if Luke loses to the Emperor and Vader in Return of the Jedi and then credits roll. Retard.
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>>19484026
Stone Cold lost to the Rock in the end.
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>>19484104
>until everyone forgets
No one is going to forget Gunther winning, but the problem is that kayfabe is so weak right now that they're going to blame Triple H for it. Wrestling is truly dead.
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>>19484044
>there isn’t anything wrong with a young dominant heel making an old babyface veteran tap out
First off, Cena isn't even a babyface, he's wrinkled from being in his 50's, second, he vowed to ruin wrestling, making Gunther sort of like the face we didn't ask for. Then again Gunther has always been based.
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>>19484104
I disagree that the loss wouldn't hurt Gunther, but I still wanted to see it happen because of how hot the crowd was for Cena. Like >>19484120 said, Gunther would have to continue on as the guy who was a bitch and couldn't beat Cena and can never get his win back because Cena is retired.
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>>19482822
He fled to South America and died in old age.
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>>19484148
And, surprise surprise, wrestling sucks since then.
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the guy who booked himself to beat everyone in TNA to the point fans started chanting drop the belt??
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>>19484104
it's not that Gunther won, it's the tap out with a smile part that got go-away heat against it. This is the key part of this kerfuffle.

In this current age, you don't have to be mark or a moron to believe in kayfabe, you have to ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE and ACTIVELY PRACTICE WILLING SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF harder than ever before while avoiding backstage content the company itself produces to watch the show as "realistic" events.
Because they've ripped curtains on the illusion out as hard as they can with their own backstage documentaries - "oh we work so hard on these Wrestlemania STORYLINES,MOMENTS and BOOKING but it's real moments wink wink that's why it's the greatest SHOW on earth" the heat doesn't really land on Gunther.

At the same time its trying to be clever and plant events to stir the conversation and obfuscate what is real and what is a work. But even in doing this cheeky little dance never the less exposed that the outcomes are, sans most injuries, A PRODUCT of the company.
So where's the blame gonna land on that four figure ticket giving you blue balls everytime? It's not Gunther, it's the company and booker - they don't think people will rather just stay at home to watch whatever it is they promote if this is the consistent level of booking and rewarding for paying up? Bold moves, stupid but bold, not everyone is into findom like HHH
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>>19481694
Jeffetty Jaretty doesn't understand going out on your back. It's how it's supposed to go. Your final selfless act of giving back to the business. I guess he can't see that because his ego is in the way.



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