Is he the most hated man in wrestling right now?
>>19484204
>>19484204He is probably the most hated person on the planet. This is his Montreal Screw job moment. If he makes a Mr. McMahon character now who is about fucking the company and the Rock comes back to challenge his authority you would have a year of dimes but their egos won't let them do this
>>19484204The heel authority figure... is getting heat? No! You're supposed to love cool heels that wink at the camera and make jokes!!!
>>19484243Triple H can't take bumps anymore his heart computer might malfunction and fucking kill him lol
>>19484243>If he makes a Mr. McMahon characterHe won't, he's got too big a ego. There's no way he'd get any sort of comeuppance and make himself look weak.
>>19484204He keeps trying to make the utter dime repellent that is Gunther happen, Gunther is never going to be a draw, Gunther isn't going to catch on as a monster heel.It's like how he pushed Sami Zayn as the ultimate underdog
>>19484246Cope harder
>>19484255Getting so mad about this that you resort to making fun of a man with a heart condition. you will die cold and alone big guy
>>19484285>making fun ofAll I did was state a fact about this big nosed piece of shit
>>19484285Not my fault god hates this faggot
>>19484265Because Gunther is a holdover from the Black & Gold era, aka Noseman's pet project and look at how all of those guys who aren't Kevin Owens spectacularly flopped on the main roster
>>19484255He doesn't have to wrestle just be a stable leader same with Rock
>>19484204Would you all be this salty if Roman Reigns was the one who beat Cena in his final match?
>>19484302>not capitalizing the G in Godhello Heyman
If only the cokehead Paki could capitalize on this somehow
>>19484350Roman is a draw and it would feel more like a hard-earned victory Gunther winning is like if Undertaker's wrestlemania streak got broken by Gargano
If Cena won you faggots would be crying Super Cena
>>19484204Biggest heel in the business and he didn't even appear. Paul never misses.
>>19484710Worse, those faggots were already chanting Super Cena during the match.
Kek what a mastermind. Drawing heat. Getting eyes on the company. Getting reactions. Gotta love the business baby.
Uranagi
Gay
>>19484350I like Gunther and hate Reigns so no. Gunther wasn't the problem, the submission finish was the problem.
>>19484246He's trying to book himself as a babyface. There's not going to be any sort of follow up or pay off with him or Gunther. This is just how it is.
>>19484349Smarks are repeating shit like "it's tradition to retire on a loss" but they don't know the basic fundamental shit like "you have no purpose in wrestling if you can't take a bump"
BEHOLD THE KWABTHE KWAB OF KWABS
>>19485967>it's tradition to retire on a lossIt's one thing if it's to elevate a rising star, but there is no elevating Gunther because frankly, he's just so much nothing
>>19485918how was the submission finish the problem? This was Brock's beating Undertaker at WM moment. You only get so many moments to have a heel have a historical moment that adds to his character for years and this was Gunther's. If you are crying about it, than Paul got it right. No you will not stop watching over this. No one will.
>>19487013People were furious at Brock going over Carder at the time too and vince was proven right over time because who else would have been better to beat him at WM? Who else was better to make Cena tap than Gunther? Time will tell
>>19486979Ah yes. Let Cena win and create nothing for the future because you need your le heckin wholesome moment
>>19487024If people watch a TV show and things they like happen on that TV show they'll want to watch more of that TV show. It's not rocket science. We've seen this play out in reverse with wrestling for years now.
>>19487061Did Brock beating Undertaker at WM cause WWE to go out of business?
>>19487061You're a retarded mark. Who gives a fuck what you want?
>>19487072Compare the number of people who were watching Raw and Smackdown then to the number of people watching Raw and Smackdown now.
>>19487013you talk like a brainwashed corporate slave. I already stopped watching WWE the moment they were sold to (((them))). However, I made one exception and watched this match, and it was a waste of time. rotten in every way. The submission finish was the problem because never giving up was a major component of Cena's character. Why take that away from him right at the end? One look at the crowd shows they were not happy, and the way they booed HHH showed it even more. I never even really liked Cena but this is bad business.
>>19487092I'll ask again, did brock beating Undertaker at WM cause WWE to go out of business or have they increase their profits since that happened? Please don't move the goalposts and answer the question I put forth
>>19487111>M-muh goal postsCry more.
>>19487102He's leaving. He won't be there. You know who will? Gunther. People come and go. You gotta look to the future. I know that's hard for you to get that through your mark mind but it was the right call.
>>19487102People thought it was a bad idea for Brock to go over Taker and they were wrong. Smarks are usually never right. That's why cagematch ratings are meaningless.
>>19484204I honestly don't get why. Why was anyone expecting Cena to win his retirement match? It's tradition that you go out on your back putting someone else over. That's the whole reason I DIDN'T watch the show because it was safe to assume Gunther was winning. Anyone upset Cena didn't win has the mind of a child.
>>19487119concession accepted
>>19487092This. WWE has been declining sharply since about 2001, primarily because they keep pissing off their remaining fans. this causes people to leave, dwindling the fan base even more. It started with the way they fumbled the invasion storyline (which had the potential to be the greatest one ever) and taking away the undertaker's WM streak to elevate someone who was already over was another of those "go away heat" events. having the heel win is one thing, but utterly humiliating a top babyface in their final match is just stupid. once in awhile you have to give the people what they want.
>>19487132BUT WHAT ABOUT MY LE HECKIN NEVER GIVE UP
>>19487143You'd have a point if their average attendance wasn't greater the last two years than it was in 2013-2014. Brock ending the streak didn't make a single person stop watching.
>>19487143Nah. Fuck marks. Shut your stupid ass up.
>>19487122There is no excuse for ripping off your fans, I don't care what kind of smark speak you want to throw around. Those people paid huge amounts of money to see Cena's last hurrah and HHH took a shit on all their heads. If that were me, I would certainly never be interested in attending another WWE event. You can't treat your fans like garbage and expect them to keep coming back.
>>19487163show me some numbers to back that up.
>>19487164no milly, pig boy.
>>19487173If you went in thinking Cena was gonna win that then there's no helping you and you're not gonna make it here with the wolves.
>>19487173stop crying broke nigger, stop buying kfc and you could have seen cena live
>>19487111>You said I'd die if I kept smoking 6 packs a day, well I only have emphysema! Therefore you're wrong and smoking is actually good for me!
>>19487188But enough about AEW
If you didn't like the match, you are literally a retarded mark.
>>19487217Many are saying this
>>19487183>>19487183they averaged less than 6k and you know that is much less than they average now because any time they hit less than 6k now, trev spams the board with his pendulum shit
>>19487202LOL I don't like AEW either, try again:) AEW and WWE fans do nothing but hate on the wrestling I like, but now you're both sitting squarely in the NO MILLY zone. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA GET FUCKED CORPORATE WHORES!
>>19487231>Provides utterly useless data>Muh boogeyman
>>19487231>just realized I'm talking to bitchtitsBye. Also no source on that screenshot? LOL what an idiot you are.
>>19487232No one is watching your ice cold Japanese shit or any of that other gay neckbeard indie garbage either. Take it somewhere else, tranny
>>19487250kek pretty soon you'll be pretending to like that shit when WWE goes out of business. And I'll still be here to make fun of you and call you a poser.
>>19487244>>19487249a simple google search is all you need, you fucking invalids. Worked on /pw/, worked over simple match outcomes, truly marks of life
>>19487265Again, take your tranny shit somewhere else
>>19487265WWE is making more money than ever, more money than every other fed put together. If WWE goes out of business, than every other fed besides it has gone out of business already
>>19487269not that anon but you're a liar and I don't believe anything you say
>>19487283this is pimpinela. pimpinela is a tranny who works for AAA. AAA is owned by WWE. WWE EMPLOYS TROONS. and you're a faggot.
>>19487286you don't understand how jews do business. they will run WWE into the ground while extracting as much wealth from it as possible. TKO will make billions from morons like you and then they will simply take their money and run.
>>19487364Literally no one on earth knows who this except you so I'm assuming you got it out of some gay mark newsletter. You should start a tranny general and take your retarded bullshit there.
>>19487379WWE is literally more successful than it's ever been.
>>19487391your favorite company employs troons, this is a fact that you cannot explain away. face it, they left you behind.
>>19487398You're arguing with some tranny who watches indie trash. It's not worth it.
>>19487398LOL no. there hasn't been a boom period in wrestling since 2001, when WWE fumbled the invasion storyline and began the 25 year plunge into the toilet.
>>19487407at least indie feds don't rip people off for thousands and thousands of dollars, only to piss in their face and call them uncultured swine when they don't like it.
>>19487414Last night's show was sold out. There wasn't a single seat available.
>>19487427Can't confirm because no one is watching that gay shit to find out. Keep seething, you retarded mark.
>>19487286> muh Saudi money keeps this pissant company afloat
>exposes all the retards for the fake wrestling smarks they are Based booking. I said Gunther was tapping out John a month ago.
>>19487434Funny how you’re ignoring the many smackdowns and raws this year that have had half the audience missing even ppvs like money in the bank lol tard
>>19487453You can count the number of shows this year with actually lower attendance on both hands, and in the case of the more recent ones, I actually looked into it and they were all in smaller markets that had already had a show in the same year that was higher attended. They were probably just hitting some smaller areas for TV a little more often than they should since they've stopped doing as many house shows. They'll just adjust that for next year.
>>19487414There will never be a boom again. It has been overexposed. Everything is fake and gay. Everything is super safe and sterile. Shitty dance routine show with a bunch of faggots. You can't make this shit cool again. Just use it to goon to divas and laugh when they hit the wall
>>19484204I hate Myles Borne and Drake Morreaux more they both fooled impressionable Latinas who still belief in the white prince trope
>>19487092Until we get solid streaming numbers that's a moot point. Only boomers have cable
>>19487507>there will never be a boom againyou've just been demoralized by 25 years of WWE fucking up. the only reason we haven't had another boom period is because we have WWE at the top sabotaging better companies while fucking up EVERYTHING and driving the whole business into the dirt. They are the fat retard that won't get out of the doorway. they've had two and a half decades to deliver and they cannot do it, it's stupid to wait for them any longer.
>>19487438>doesn't watch anything but WWE>can't tell you anything about wrestling outside of WWE>says it's gayYou're too stupid to be worth any more than this one reply. have fun being a piggiE because we all know what happens to little pigs in the end.
cena tapping works and makes sense but the execution was just shit. it didnt feel like he was bested and out classed and didnt have it any more. just felt like he randomly decided to tap at an arbitrary point in the fight.
>>19488008I watched AEW until 2023. It was shit and I wouldn't recommend a single person to watch any of it. Now Lucha Underground, I would recommend the first 2 seasons to any wrestling fan. AEW never even touched that shit.
Paul booked the last match perfectly, problem is he shat his fucking diaper booking the rest of the run so the hatred while misguided is justified.
>>19484204The new Vince was born yesterday. He can ride this into something good, as long as heel Steph doesn't join in as a package deal and it devolves into more Steph humiliating larger male wrestlers Authority gimmick.
>>19488008You're gay. The stupid smark shit you cum in your pants over is gay. Again, take your ice cold dimeless faggot retardation somewhere else.
