How's your media literacy /pw/?
>>19484895He's not wrong. E-drones got filtered hard.
>>19484919>Casuals tuning in for a feel-good moment don’t get the deepities of our art, tradition, and storytelling. They must be fucking morons!Interesting approach.
>>19484895Cena lost via submission. Do they have the literacy to understand what the definition of "submit" is?
>>19484895The dichotomy is crazy
>>19484895>media literacy>art>storytellingAll these terms around fucking wrestling, let alone WWE lmaoWhat a midwit
>>19484895This whole spiel about media literacy is literally them saying "you drew logical conclusions instead of just accepting the approved messaging? What a fucking retard."
>>19484928He's not wrong
>>19484895>media literacy>art>storytellinghilarious to use any of these words when talking about the pg show catering primarily to kids and the developmentally disabled
>>19484895Moonsaultsissies...
>>19485023ANTHONY FANTANO HERE
>>19485023PEACHY FROM THE TOP ROPE
>>19484919>being such a haitch mark that you believed his style of booking is anything but "no u" type of shitposting
>>19485023Lol I used to watch this guys youtube channel. He's a right cunt and makes shit music
>>19484895>Brake a wishKEK
>>19484895It was an Atmospheric Slow Burn Banger, pure avant garde dadaism injected straight into my veins.
>>19484895>media literacy>consume art and storytellingwhy does this dork look like a little Dax?
>>19485023"media literacy" is just leftwing version of conspiracy theory>ackshully when X says Y he really means Z if you look at the subtext ie hidden patterns that only my skitzo brain can see
>>19485126mm yes, Deridda would have much to say in regards to Cena's last match.
>>19485333there's no subtext, you're just a different breed of retard from the retard in OP
>is our writing shit?>No! It's the fans who are wrong
>>19484895wtf even is this guys argument, is he claiming cena didnt give up?
>>19485399No he's claiming that giving up is good, actually
I choose to consume broccoli and medium cooked steak with a proper sear in an iron cast skillet that has been carmalazised by onions. WWE is also really good and I consume that too.
>>19485410>I choose to consume broccolibased goitrogenschad
>>19484895"media literacy" shouldn't be an issue. if the company cannot do a good job of telling a coherent story, that's their own fault.
>>19484895This isn't complicated. People likely would've accepted this result if there actually was a storyline.
>>19484895YOU DID A HECCIN' MEDIA ILLITERACY CHUD
>>19485417If that is a real word I am choosing it for my new pronoun. Don't even get me started talking about cauliflower
>>19484895Ah, new clothes for the "you are watching it wrong and saying its bad is wrong" argument. This time from a man that looks like his career is hinging on his new mustache logo embedded IPA brew called "Pussydeathsmell" will be a success. How riveting.
>>19484895I can't fucking stand the term media literacy. It's the most up your own ass snobby deflection for why people might not like something and only complete faggots use it. And imagine using it about fucking wrestling of all things. I worked myself into a seethe brothers
>>19485546Okay but how did you score on your media literacy test?
>>19485375He didn't say there was subtext you stupid nigger.
>>19484895He literally gave up. Anyone defending the finish is a retard.
>>19484919>marks getting worked by a match resultjust take a deep breath and remind yourself, like you always do when you're discussing wrestling, that it's fake, lil bros.
>>19484895i thought aew fans were supposed to be the pretentious ones?
>>19485023Left wingers have infected the fandom (and roster) for about the past 15 years. It really makes one wonder why do they all look the fucking same?! And why are they all limp wristed, thin skinned faggots?
>>19485662The only people defending this slop are the smarks who are afraid if there is enough backlash wwe will cancel the gunther push
>>19484895What story? Gunther won a tournament that John barely acknowledged on TV then beat him
>>19484928You and your casuals are legit dumbfucks. In the industry there are two kinds of people. Those who love the industry and those who just got in for themselves. The former will ALWAYS give back on their way out. If you expected any other outcome, you're a legit idiot who unironically needs to work on not just media literacy but in not being so fucking naive.
>>19484895i liked the tap out but these fags are making me think twice about it
>>19484895>BrakeI guess it makes sense but I'm sure he was trying to spell "break"
>>19486829why?
>>19484919>E-drones got filtered hardMust be a day that ends in y
>>19486868they’re so annoying that i’m forced to disagree
>>19485399That he retired on his own terms. He was able to dictate the exact time of his retirement. Cena smiling was showing his love for wrestling in his final moment.Not saying it's not retarded headcanon, but that's the cope
>>19484895poor media literacy is correlated with normalfaggotry and let's just say i'm very schizophrenic
>>19486746The tradition of a retiring star "giving back to the business" doesn't always have to involve jobbing in a retirement match. Cena spent much of the last 5+ years as a big name part timer who would return occasionally to "give back to the business" by means of jobbing to heels getting pushed. By the time he got thumbed in the neck repeatedly in his job to Solo, I felt his ability to get others over by jobbing to them had been exhausted. At that point, old man Cena's efforts at "giving back" may well have been better fulfilled by giving fans a storybook ending. I don't totally hate the decision to have Cena lose his last match, because it does serve future booking by making Gunther into the "career killer," but the tap-out deserves the ridicule it is getting. Cena's career, the legacy of which is a part of the business he was supposedly giving back to, ends with a whimper. I would've preferred to see something like Cena fighting tooth and nail against losing by submission until Gunther had no choice but to win by pinfall after another powerbomb.>>19486943Are you sure that's the "media literacy" argument of the Redditers? I haven't looked into it, but that's sufficiently dumb for me to believe it. Cena may as well have verbally forfeited the match right after Lilian Garcia introduced him by that logic. Smiling dipshit triumphantly takes an L in a (mock) competition instead of simply ending his career with a tweet.
>>19487191>Are you sure that's the "media literacy" argument of the Redditers?Kek, idk honestly
>>19484895twice failed youtuber whines on twitter.
>>19484895'media literacy' might be the most midwit, pretentious combination of words ever devised
>>19485662You're a grown man needing your le heckin wholesome hero to come out on top despite retiring. Fuck you and the other marks who have been spamming this shit all day
>>19487299fuck all you WWE shills trying to retcon the truth away
>>19487318What truth? He's retiring. The business goes on. Get over it, retard.
>>19487236No prob. I've only seen a few screenshots of the douchie "media literacy" take on /pw/ like the one provided here by OP. Accusing others of lacking an ability to properly grasp the point of Cena's smiling submission is easier than actually providing a reasoned defense of it. It's probably as simple as that.
I haven’t watched the match but the fact this dude is offended over some meme tells me that either1. He’s a Cena fanboy 2. He’s a typical Twitter chud that thinks he just made a world shattering point & analysisThe fact he’s telling this guy to work on his “media literacy” is stupid because wrestling is art, art will always be open to ambiguous interpretations whether he likes it or not. If Bi-Han feels that the story of the match was John Cena finally coming to terms of being an old washed quitter now, that’s fine, because that’s what I saw too. He sold that rear naked choke like shit
>>19486943huh? he was already retiring either way
>>19486943How can you say Cena went out on his own terms? His booking the last year was awful. Why did he lose to Brock Lesnar? There was so many dropped plot threads and half told stories.They fumbled Cena's retirement
>>19487191How many of Terry Funks retirement matches did he win? How many did he lose?
>>19487673>OH MY GOD DID MY LE HECKIN WHOLESOME CHILDHOOD HERO LOSE?
>>19487191That ending would've buried Gunther. I can imagine the massive cope he would be forced to give while fans laughed at him>I-I-I-I know I promised to make him tap out, b-b-but last minute I figured I cared about the win insteadNot to mention that everyone beats Cena by pin. Literally everyone. Fucking Austin Theory can say he beat Cena by pinning him. Beating Cena doesn't help absolutely anyone.
>>19487718*pining CenaPining Cena doesn't help absolutely anyone.
>>19487702I took the four seconds to Google it and learn that Funk won his last match. Go ahead and attempt to make a point now.>>19487718You're overstating it in the extreme when you claim that a non-submission victory over Cena would amount to Gunther getting "buried." The tap-out doesn't cast Gunther as more of a dominant heel than he was going in, and he rebounded well enough from the poor decision to have him lose with an anticlimactic tap-out of his own at WM41. During the actual retirement match, Cena repeatedly played up fist-shaking rallies as he fed off the crowd's energy and chants of "Don't Give Up!" while he was locked in the sleeper. He and Gunther are good enough workers to tell a story where an overmatched Cena's obstinate refusal to submit leads to a few false finishes that leave Gunther visibly worried that he might fuck up and lose if he keeps chasing the tap-out. This finish would simultaneously make Gunther look like a force that Cena had no real prayer against while also allowing Cena to go out on his shield without ever compromising the principles that defined his cookie-cutter babyface character for a decade plus. No one is talking about Gunther today. So much for heel heat. They're only discussing the decision to have Cena tap-out. I'm yet to hear a reasonable defense of that decision.
>>19487902you're talking to a shill, no one else could possibly defend WWE right now
it doesnt matter if it's my takeaway. it matters if it's the takeaway of dying children.
>>19487902again, you're just asking for the match to become random Cena defeat number 23423535. People are talking about the decision? If Gunther had just pinned Cena, no one would be talking about the match at all. No one gives a shit when Cena loses by pin. Everyone did it already.
>>19487950>it matters if it's the takeaway of dying children.if they're weak little bitches then yeah they'll die, F.but the strong will realise that they are next, in 10 years a little jimmy who's beating brain cancer rn will beat Gunther for the world title
>>19488007The pomp and circumstance surrounding the match's status as *THE* last John Cena match that caps off over a year of build and a heavily marketed "farewell tour" was enough to ensure that people would talk about it regardless of the finish. The point I'm making is that the finish they went with was counterproductive. It was much worse than just another forgettable Cena job. It disappointed fans by tarnishing the legacy of a former star in a way that hardly guarantees future interest in the show.There was plenty of post-match discussion after Cody lost to Roman at WM39. Most of it was level-headed and expressed an understanding that the WWE was gonna book the same main event the following year. Had Cody been squashed by Roman in 2 minutes at WM40, there would have been plenty of post-match discussion about it. This itself should not be taken as a sign that it was a good decision. People are disappointed without anything lined up to make up for it. It's looking like we might have to agree to disagree, but go ahead and give your final thoughts if you want.
>>19487945People who shower, have jobs and functioning brains aren't upset after last night, you retarded fucking mark. Get a clue.
>>19488276>People are disappointedFaggot cope where you won't specify which groups of fans are "disappointed", you lazily insist it's every single fan
>>19488300>>19488314fedophile pEdrone pig posts
>>19488314See the meme being ridiculed by the media literate needledick in OP's screenshot, other screenshots and webms on the catalog, and the many posts by anons on this board that are similarly critical of the tap-out. Those stand as a representative sample of the "People" I'm referring to you salty buttboy.
>>19488330Huh what u mean
>>19488341>if any place on the internet is a representative sample of wrestling fans, it's /pw/Exactly 0% of you believes this
>>19488345there's a dildo in your belly
>>19488356Nigga extrapolate
>>19488345sorry, I meant to quote >>19488300>>19488314those 2 posts.
>>19488353Agreed, which is why I made the necessary qualifications left out of your greentext
>>19484895Why that "man" is defending Triple nose's booking? He should hate him considering nose doesn't hide his disdain for niggers
>>19488387Walk me through this, then. Your argument is that an unspecified number of Anonymous posts that you characterize as being against the Cena tapping decision means it was a bad decision, or wasn't the best decision, but because an unspecified number of Anonymous posts about WM39 that you characterize as being level-headed means that was a good decision. And overall, we are forced to play these fuck games because you refuse to attach a number to anything, or specify which groups are more disappointed than others, and you refuse to explain why those groups hold (or should hold) a disproportionate amount of influence over WWE's booking decisions.Your retarded arguments make my head hurt. Hiding behind>fans were upset>people were disappointed>a few podcasters were mad>a handful of twitter accounts got lots of likes saying the finish suckedit's coward shit and it's meaningless.
>>19488441Wow. Alright. I can walk you through this. I can plainly see that you need the help. Let's begin with a simple observation: the online reaction to the tap-out finish to Cena's retirement match is divided, yes? There are people who have expressed their disappointment that Cena tapped out and there are people who have expressed their satisfaction with it. Do you deny this?
>>19488501This is all very true. You're going to need to speed up the process, there's 50 other threads discussing this topic and I have multiple tabs open. Feel free to take liberties and I'll correct you where appropriate, as I'm not a degenerate troll, I'm actually quite a genuine person and conversationalist.
>>19488552I can see your time is valuable with all those open /pw/ tabs, so I'll cut to the chase. You just affirmed that there are:>*people* who have expressed their disappointment that Cena tapped outThe "people" who make up that specific group you and I just affirmed the existence of are the same "People" being referred to in the greentext of your reply here: >>19488314That should clear up your initial confusion by determining the specific segment of the fanbase I'm basing my argument upon. My sense is that this segment isn't made up of a negligible minority, and I never suggested it was "every single fan." There is no need "to attach a number to anything" here. You should be in a position to reread my posts and comprehend my points now. Let me know if you still have trouble with the contrasting analogy I drew between the effective booking of the babyface loss at WM39 and what I argue is the ineffective booking of the Cena tap-out at SNME. Both turn upon the reality that a specific group of fans were disappointed with the result. And I won't pull a nutty if you turn out to be a degenerate troll after all.
By retiring aren’t you giving up anyway? It was 4th wall bullshit
