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What went wrong?
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>>19512927
injury prone
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He should go to the WWE. The heel booker would treat him right.
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>>19512927
Signed the mark contract
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>>19512927
He signed with AEW
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>>19512927
I always thought he was a shitter. i'm glad he proved me correct
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Biggest aura loss in the history of wrestling
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>>19512927
remember when /asp/ loved this faggot because they thought he was a chud? then he wore a black lives matter shirt and everyone turned on him
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SOON
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why so many posts on this guy in the last day
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"Crocodile Dundude" J.White
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>>19512961
That wasn't even his worst. He's like Tozawa tier after this shit.
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>>19515167
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>>19512927
The switchblade lost its breath
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>>19515172
Legit fear
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>>19515172
>Okay, this place isn't going to be like Vince's WWE! Everyone gets a fair shot! So, everyone will job to me like I'm Brock Lesnar for a year, I'll no sell all your shit, the female in my group will beat you up and submit you, then it'll all be to make Adam Page the champ again! Then they'll pass it around between the same friends group but no worries, I will start jobbing to everyone so I get seen as a company guy, and we'll ignore the fact that that makes the fact that you jobbed to me even more pointless in the first place. Capiche?
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>>19515204
seething pig
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>>19515204
i like how they slowly went from admitting it was shit to going right back to trying to pretend it was amazing.
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>>19512927
His style doesn't work for AEW's flippy spotmonkey kickoutfests. It's not dynamic or flashy, his matches are a slow burn and pretty great with the right opponent but not for bloodthirsty AEW smarks. Not to mention he was in a dimeless stable no one cared about, put into heatless programs and jobbed out to every star they had.
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>>19515228
The stable was great, they just never got anything cool to do
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>>19515233
One or several of them are always injured and the few moments of them being all together, they dumb shit like riding tricycles to the ring.
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>>19512934
he's had one major injury his entire career (this one) and it's a wrist injury,
>>19515228
he works well with flashy guys, though, and is Ospreay's best opponent
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>>19512927
He's literally just this guy, except he's a much worse wrestler and has a horrible accent. I genuinely don't understand what the fuck people are smoking by saying he'd have had a higher ceiling in WWE.
He's fucking Josh Alexander tier, and I'm honestly impressed that AEW is actually using him in the right spot on the card instead of giving him the ratings killer pushes they gave washed Okada and Ospreay. Like Christ, niggas. Stop getting worked by the shitters they push in Japan. Jay and Giulia, two of the most fucking boring wrestlers of all time who were turned into console war symbols by yummy wummy roster beggars who didn't watch them more than twice a year to see how bad they really were
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>>19515264
Jay White is unironically a top 5 in-ring wrestler in the world if you've got a brain bigger than a dorito

and his counterpunching wrestling style is unlike anyone active right now, so you clearly have no clue what you're on about
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>>19515264
>except he's a much worse wrestler
Jay White wrestles circles around this jobber, he was a fucking grand slam champ on NJPW, wtf are you on?
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>>19512927
Should've just waited out the hiring freeze instead of being greedy and signing with the tranny fed. People make fun of le Miz feud but if he managed to hang with Miz he would be in a good spot instead of jobbing to Ass Man and Evan Bourne.
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>>19515204
nailed it, my friend
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>>19515274
He's a top 5 wrestler in the world at getting people to fall asleep and his counter style is a load of wank. Wrestling is about deriving emotional reaction from a crowd, not square dancing and calling it psychological. Great wrestling if you enjoy stroking your pubescent chin beard and listening to TOOL though.
Being a TV midcard heel is his best role; he can keep his matches under 15 minutes and use his stupid sounding voice and rat face to stooge and put people over. Unfortunately there are more than enough guys doing that act on TV right now so he's got little unique to offer.
>>19515277
Being given all the titles in a boring shitty company is not a real achievement. Kenny Omega is a grand slam champ in AEW and it means nothing because AEW sucks.
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>>19512927
He's been injured his entire AEW run.
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>>19515390
You type like a faggot and you have the opinions of a faggot

I'm thinkin you might be a faggot, anon
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>>19512927
Chose AEW instead of staying in japan going to WWE or fuck even TNA
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>>19512927
I thought for sure I was on the right side of things saying he was right to go to AEW. I still don't think there was much opportunity open to him in WWE at the time, but jesus christ anything would be better than how badly Tony has fumbled this guy
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>>19512927
He went to AEW. Many such cases
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>>19515147
SOONposting for what like a year or so made me change my opinion of Jay White. What pains me is I might be the only person in the thread that remembers this.
>Tfw ywn have Jay White sit besides you on the train and whisper in your ear SOON
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He's not main guy material and AEW already has plenty of fraudulent "main eventers" being overpushed like Hangman and Swerve, no point adding to the pile by throwing Jay in there. Guy is a TNT belt run waiting to happen.
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>>19512927
Should have taken the God damned Miz feud
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>>19515822
Everyone, and I do mean everyone with any common sense has said or thought this
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>>19512927
I hate AEW and I haven't watched it in years, but I DO want this guy, and I'll be happy if he makes it to WWE. He can bring Juice Robinson too.
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>>19512927
>>19515822
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>>19512927
Punk's personal project, he wanted to make this kid with a career defining feud, and this AEW Punk, not WWE PG Punk, but then you know what happened, and Tony got spiteful and decided to bury him to MJF, same with Ricky Starks another Punk project. I wish we were in the timeline where we got this feud
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>>19515940
Giving someone a PPV main event title shot is not burying them
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>>19512927
He was impatient with NJPW but NJPW had plans for him.

>>19515161
Would work in WWE and Vince would push it.


>>19515204
AEW is shit.


>>19515228
Duh.

He was trained by NJPW Dojo.

>>19515390
Nice Copium, Anti Smark Faggot.


He was pushed to the moon in NJPW and won championships at a young age.


This has to be that Nigger Millennial Smark who copes about Jay White being dominant in NJPW.

>shitty company!!!

Oldest company in Japan and miles better than WWE and AEW
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>>19515987
Losing to a guy who is on one leg, while cheating, while having multiple people helping you cheat, is being buried
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>>19515264
>JAPAN DOESN’T MATTER!!

>ONLY AMERICA!!!!

AmeriMutt, stop coping that your shit country is dying since 2008.

China is rising as an economic powerhouse.

No one cares about AmeriMutt Pro Wrestling.

It’s dead since the territories era.
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>>19516032
No, that's just losing. You don't know what a burial is. Jay would not agree to something that would actually bury him. You are just pretending.
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>>19515987
Jay got booked to lose an ass kicking contest to a one legged man. That was the burial of the century and he can never recover from it.
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>>19516049
>You don't know what a burial is
You don't know what a burial is.
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>>19516059
>he can never recover from it.
*Tony books Jay to win the world title*
OMG he recovered from it!!
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>>19512964
Heel tshirt
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>>19516060
Neither does Jay apparently since he wilfully and enthusiastically participated in his own burial, according to you.
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>>19516062
Two more weeks
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>>19516062
>Tony's totally gonna give the belt to the guy he buried 6 feet underground
>j-just you wait!
Absolute delusion.

>>19516069
Every wrestler participates in his own burial. It's called being a professional and doing your job. When Vince booked Taz to get buried by Taker he didn't refuse to participate and go home. He ran out there with a booboo face and got fucking buried. So yeah of course Jay participated in getting buried. He had to keep making a living and take care of his wife. He wasn't gonna say "that doesn't work for me brother" and walk away from his paycheck.
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>>19516113
You're now lying and claiming Tony Khan signed Jay White to AEW so he could bury him for no reason whatsoever.
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>>19515940
Punk got hurt, you mean. He's the one who derailed that feud.
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>>19515940
Collision was the Punk show, remember? And Jay was his first choice for a feud which is why Jay was stuck on Collision for like a year after Punk got hurt and then left before they could revisit the feud.

But this does mean that Jay pretty much has a guaranteed job in WWE whenever he wants it
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>>19516121
>You're now lying and claiming Tony Khan signed Jay White to AEW so he could bury him for no reason whatsoever.
No, you're lying and making up your own headcanon about things I never said because I assume you're mentally ill. Tony signed Jay White because MMM NEW TOY but seemingly had no clear plan for him, gave him a directionless push, and then absolutely buried him to the deepest pits of hell for whatever reason.
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>>19516140
>for whatever reason
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>>19515940
Ricky Starks was a Cody guy like Shawn Spears and Ethan Page.
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>>19515215
We don't sign our posts here.
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Tony.
Jay suffered just as much as Omega going to the mark fed.
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>>19512927
Tremendously overrated. Smarks saw him once a month at most in NJPW, but he was totally exposed on weekly TV.
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>>19516142
>>for whatever reason
Yeah, I'm not gonna make up headcanon for why Tony decided to bury Jay White to oblivion. I don't know his reasons. All I know is that he buried Jay White to oblivion.
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>>19517511
Tony shoot ruined wrestling but he did finance and alternative and that's the only flowers he'll get
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shitter
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>>19516769
This you
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>>19517522
He financed a failing alternative but at the cost of killing the indies + NJPW
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He can’t rely on NJPW’s booking to protect him in AEW as a singles. He was great as a tag team with Juice but no one in that entire stable can go a month without getting a year long injury.
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The Bladerunner keeps being the most protected finisher in aew. trust the plan.
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>>19512927
simped for burn loot murder
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>>19512927
Sometimes staying in Japan is the right move.
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He needs to evolve his character a bit. The most wild change he's done was grow a shitty hobo beard 3+ years ago.
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>>19515277
I like Jay but “a booker chose him to win fake titles in fake matches” is not an argument for if someone is good or not
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>>19518600
Debatable
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>>19515940
God Punk is such a womanly faggot
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>>19518608
not for anyone with a developed brain
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>>19518625
Oh I'll go debate with someone smarter then, thanks for warning me
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>>19512927
He’s only 33. He could totally be presented as a big deal if Tony wasn’t such a cuck. But he has time.
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>>19512927
smark booking
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>>19520271
but he's been booked like Vince would book him
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>>19512927
He was exposed as a shitter after leaving the protection of Gedo and NJPW. He actually seemed like a star there.
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>>19512927
Tony
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>>19512927
What I remember is seeing this dude the first time on some clips and never hearing him outside the time he went bananas on the dead Jap crowds and thinking he'd be some great promo guy. he sure sucked ass in AEW like the mic was a straw
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>>19515172
>Don't talk to me or my son ever again!
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>>19512927
he works for a company that boils down subtlety in wrestling to doing a collapse spot after a chain of 15 moves and calls it "selling". Jays style needs time to breath, one of the smartest wrestlers alive who doesnt need to do a million flips to have you on the edge of your seat. if you arent blading or having yummy nummy indy million mile an hour bangerinos tony dont gaf.

no one currently going can add layers to a match like jay, and he does it with the simplest of things.

Come home son.
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>>19522065
This
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>>19522065
I fucking hope he comes to WWE and has a great feud with Miz.
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>>19512927
Literally another example of some dimeless indie shitter being talked about as the next big thing because he worked in Japan (despite the fact 90% of the people hyping him up at the time have never watched Japanese wrestling)
It’s like Chinese whispers, everyone assumed he’s good because everyone else said so - and everyone assumed the other people saying he was good had actually watched him in Japan but no-one actually had
Japanese whispers we should start calling it
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>>19512936
lol sure...
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>>19523647
I would

What you say Jay?
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>>19512927
Him being buried by MJF and doing goofy shit with the Gang Bang Gang instead of acting like the sociopath he was in nooj
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>>19512927
Wrong company



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