Does anyone here collect wrestling trading cards, I don't really, but these just went on preorder today, and I ordered three on a whim. What am I in for?They also had "hobby boxes" that guarantee more rare and special cards, but those sold out almost instantly.
>>19534725I love wrestling trading cards but I honestly have no reason to collect.
>>19534725is there at least a fun game you can play with them
maybe it's just cause I grew up in the late 90s/early 00s when yugioh pokemon etc. were popping off but I've legitimately never understood the appeal of any kind of trading card that didn't have some kind of function beyond being a pretty piece of cardboard
I played yugioh for like a week and then stopped. I remember going to toys r us and doing the card battle events they had but I lost one and got bored and went to play demos. Then I got bootleg yugioh god cards from a swap meet and that was it.
>>19534735>>19534738>>19534742I do wish there was a game attached. It doesn't even have to be a good game.
WHY THE FUCK DO YOU NEED A GAME ATTACHED TO YOUR TRADING CARDS MORONS
>>19534757why wouldn't youwhat do you get out of buying cards with a picture of Apollo Crews on it
>>19534746They should bring back slam attax that was topps i think
>>19534725A box of bullshit
>>19534762If they just had some utility other than for you to spend money hoping to pull a relic or an auto, that would be really nice.
Ebay sellers are selling autographed cards or limited produced cards for around $150-250.It's a scam when WWE wrestlers are not real athletes.
>>19534856It's funny that the actual picture of the wrestler is the thing on the card that matters least when it comes to value.
This will be $240 + shipping.
>>19534757To me the appeal of the rare cards is that they are better than the commons. if theres no big number on the card why bother
>>19534856>It's a scam when WWE wrestlers are not real athletes.That's not how the market works brother. Pikachu and Batman aren't even real but some people want to buy their stuff.
>>19534870Two subhumans
>>19534856>>19534870Can you get autos and relics and stuff in the value boxes, or do you have to buy a hobby box? The value boxes for this last set are only $25 each. The hobby boxes are $170 MSRP, but you'll probably have to pay more than that since they all sold out. Those ones do have a lot more cards in each box though.
i was surprised how much these cards sell for. there is a bigger market for them than i thought.
>>19534881I saw a YouTube video where some guy opened a Liv Morgan card with this helix background, and apparently it wound up being a $450 card.
>>19534889the whole thing is like gambling. all randomized.overall you are better off just buying the card you are looking for on eBay.
>>19534889>Can you get autos and relics and stuff in the value boxesYes, but usually lower odds>>195348921/1 means there is literally only one of that card in the world, so it's a select group of rich superfans bidding on it.
>>19534892I ordered the Kendal Grey Iron Survivor card, that's their Topps Now thing where the print run for the card is determined by how many orders they get. They're making 2,171 of these, but you have a chance of receiving a variant. There's 50 gold foil, 25 orange foil, 10 black foil, five red foil, and one card out of 2,171 will be the FoilFracter card.
>>19534725Those retail boxes are generally pretty dogshit in terms of rare cards or autographs, but they're decent for just building up a collection if you're starting out or just want to rip some packs. The hobby boxes have all the good stuff, but even then it can be hit and miss. I bought a couple of boxes of the last release and one box had Bret Hart and Kurt Angle autos, while the other had Charlie Dempsey and Lash Legend autos. Same price, obviously. So there's a pretty big element of gambling involved.
Have they made any cards with a piece of ring-worn Lyra Valkyria gear?
>>19535050Yeah but you have to pay extra for the gusset.
>>19534725I watched some openings on youtube and they (including me) never know who 95% of the cards are.
>>19535137Yeah they pack the base set full of NXT names
>>19535137same, one I watched said it was a 30 dollar pack and he pulled Bronco Nima and Fallon Henley. I said "kwab" and thumbed down the video
>>19535319Hey I'd like a Fallon auto.
>>19535346it wasn't autographed, it was a special "sepia" one. there were no autographs in the pack. i really hope the guy was lying about it being a 30 dollar pack
I think opening packs of cards is fun, but the hobby boxes aren't worth what you have to pay for them on the secondary market.
like Pokemon cards, these boxes are bought up by scalpers and then resold pack per pack for overinflated prices.
>>19535526People need to stop paying those prices for these things. It's crazy.
I should’ve put my life savings into Max dupri autos years ago
>>19535319breh I'd buy a pack and probably pull>Malik Blade>Cruz Del Toro>Nathan Frasier>Mark Coffey>Adam Pierce>Talla Tonga (Holographic 1/500)
>>19535557>Mark Coffeychat is this real?
>>19534912>so it's a select group of rich superfans bidding on it.so the cards inevitably end up in their hands? Cus for 90% of people they are just opening cards hoping to get a rare one to sell to them. I think the whole thing is just weird.
>>19535584When you put it that way it's a bit odd
>>19535584Like all collectibles it's a fake market. People buy them because they think there's collectors to sell to at inflated prices, but everyone is only looking to sell them. Eventually the market collapses. That's what happened to rare coin collectors.
>>19535632I'm a comic fan, and it makes me sad that the industry isn't able to survive anymore just by selling books that people want to read, so they have to make like seven variant covers for every issue, sometimes with ratios attached so stores are forced to order extra copies of books they won't be able to sell just so they can mark up the one cover that a whale wants, which will go into a bag and board and never be read.
grown adults buying boxes of trading cards is more obese and subhuman than watching joshi
>>19535641didn't that same shit kill comics in the 90s?
>>19534725I think you should cancel your order. I’m doing this to help you. Don’t fall into the card autism.
>>19535647I've been in a hole watching a bunch of pack openings since this thread was posted and EVERY single one of them possesses the fattest hands imaginable
>>19535674I don't think it was exactly the same thing. In the 90's, everybody was seeing news stories of Action Comics #1 selling for insane, lifechanging prices. So people started buying comics as investments. The problem of course was that the reason Action Comics #1 was so valuable is because nobody at the time knew it would be worth anything someday so they didn't take care of their copies, and it's extremely rare. When everybody buys a copy of the issue where Superman dies, it turns out it's not too hard to get your hands on these days.What's happening now isn't quite the same thing. Nobody is under the delusion that comics are a good investment now, but people still do like collecting them, and some of them will buy a book from a series they aren't reading if it has a variant cover drawn by Alex Ross or somebody. So much of the business now is just the covers of the books.Ironically, on the rare occasions where a modern comic book actually does become more in demand and valuable, it's usually the A-cover that's the one people want, not the variant covers.
>>19534725Nah, too expensive last time checked. I forget the breakdown but it may have been around $2 a card. If it were just like football or baseball cards or even MTG id be more willing to get into it. I dont understand why niche hobbies like cards or comic books got so damn expensive when those hobbies need all the support they can get.
>>19535748Nobody fucking buys comics anymore. If a comic sells 100,000 copies, that is considered an overwhelming smash hit. A lot of the biggest comics are probably more in the 80,000 range. Mid tier characters like Green Lantern might be 40-50,000.
>>19535526>>19535551If i had throw away money id be after these cards.
>>19535710thanks for the insight, I am not a huge comic guy other than buying trades here and there but the stuff I heard from boomer nerds is that shit like special edition covers and stuff hurt the industry in the 90s. I see there is more nuance.
>>19534911This is true but nobody does that! It’s all about the rip. Opening packs is the only thing that matters. It reminds of back when I was snorting heroin. Spend all day waiting to buy your box of cards, very exciting time. Go home, open the packs, very exciting time. Get nothing in said packs, now the withdrawal. Now everything sucks.
>>19535674Not quite, these covers tend to draw in new customers and seem to retain their value since there arent 1,000s of copies out there.Take Youngblood #1, everyone wanted a copy not because it was rare but because it was hyped to fuck(dunno why since it barely makes any sense) so people bought multiples. Once the value decreased those boks went back into the market and now that $20 comic is going for $10 and eventually for a $1. The investors and people like Wizard magazine killed off the 90s comic boom.
>>19535779It definitely hurt the industry in the 90's. It was a bubble that burst. Variant covers now are helping juice the numbers, but a healthy industry shouldn't be relying on degenerate collectors buying books they have no intention of reading. You want people to buy the books because they like the stories. And I think comics are better now than they were a few years ago, but the industry is not healthy and it's going to be very hard to bring it to a better place, even if there's a lot of stuff I like reading now.
>>19535776If I happen to obtain the 1/1 triple autograph from Cena's last match, I don't know if I'll keep it or sell it. I mean it would be a pretty cool thing to have.
>>19535680Honestly I think God protected me by having the hobby boxes sell out before I could order one.
I think these cards do look pretty cool.
yes
>>19536839Holy based
>>19534856Id stick this in a jar bros no lie
Bros, if I was a girl I'd wear a bikini and film myself opening the packs and I'd make enough money doing that it would more than make up for the cost of the boxes. They have it so easy bros.
>>19535826>collectors buying books they have no intention of reading. There aren't many of those people. The Ninja Turtle books seem to have the most covers and that's because there is a core group of whale fans that will try to get all the covers but they also read one of them, and they also buy the expensive NECA figures and more.>You want people to buy the books because they like the stories.(You) do but Disney and Warner Brothers are just looking to maximize profit. Like WWE with their VIP packages and such and like video games with micro transactions, they're putting anything out there that someone will buy.
>>19535779Comic nerds like to scapegoat 90s special edition covers but what was a far bigger factor was the evolution of home video games and then the internet. Bored kids used to read more, but now most spend more hours on video games instead.
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>>19537371Yeah, video games offer far more value per dollar. The average comic book can run you $5 these days, and you're done with it in ten minutes if that. It's honestly hard to justify even if it's good.
Surprisingly comfy thread
>>19534892>i was surprised how much these cards sell for.The market mostly consists of scalpers trying to resell the cards. I doubt many fans actually buy them. The whole trading card scene is retarded.
>>19537374Imagine paying money for and owning AEW trading cards. It's hard to imagine anything worse. What would be the big hits? Your best case scenario is an auto of some dimeless shitter no one cares about.
>>19537880As with most hobbies, the coomer dollar has a lot of the power. The best hobby box I got was an auto of Steve Austin, which I actually wanted, and a low-numbered variant of Tiffany Stratton. I was able to shift that almost instantly for some big coomerbucks, which easily recouped the cost of the box. It'll be the same with this latest set. If you hit a decent Stephanie Vaquer card, the rest of it is paid for.
>>19534738What would Benoit's special ability be in the WWE card game
My John Cena poster card shipped. Hope I get a good one, but they printed a lot of these so odds are quite bad.