>>19542688
Yeah. I hear it's happening next year

>YOU DESERVE IT
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>*CLAP CLAP CLAP*

>>19542688
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9mJ82x_l-E

>>19542688
as if this retard would be able to get in the building with a firearm. never would've happened, even if he didn't change his mind at the last minute.

>>19542783
Getting a gun into a venue is relatively easy, I don't know what you're talking about. It's much easier to do than pretty much any other secured area like an airport or a government building. You could just be a local worker and bring a gun into most venues.

>>19542789
walking through the gate with event staff and security that has metal detecting wands.
>doubt

>>19542801
There is always a side exit and not every crate you see in those backstage shots is inspected thoroughly. I work in event security, and though arenas today might have higher security than they did back in 2001 you have imagine how large an operation WWE is, they cannot look in every nook and cranny. Pyro alone is a huge concession we give to production that everything is on the up and up. Source: I work backstage all over a major city in multiple venues.

>>19542810
for any of that to even be remotely possible he would have needed help. someone to prop open a door. someone on the roster to bring it in a crate. you could say he could trick someone into doing it. you could say one of his old ecw boys would prop a door open for him. plenty of people were angry at heyman. however, his plan was to buy a ticket, walk in the front door with a loaded gun, walk up behind the commentary table, and blow heyman away. it wouldn't have worked and you know it. that's why you're trying to find a way out of what dreamer said and inventing angles that were a part of the work. sorry pal, but it wouldn't have worked.

>>19542818
No, literally in most venues he would be allowed to leave and go to his car or somewhere quick and come back without being checked, I see it happen all the time. There is no telling what someone has in their car in that type of situation and if the suspect doesn't care about being caught, which obviously he wouldn't have, then it is more likely he will be successful.

>>19542821
>allowed to leave and go to his car or somewhere quick and come back
not without going through security again. though sure, maybe a legend like tommy dreamer could get in, get a guy at the gate to have his back, and let him slide. it's simply unlikely to the point of it requiring everyone he encountered along the way to be a retard. this was 2001. demographics in the arena were nowhere near the level that would allow that level of operational oversight. maybe at your venues you would not catch a guy trying to assassinate someone, but maybe that's why high profile shootings are increasing in recent years. if I worked security he would get checked just like everyone else, and I wouldn't allow people coming in and out and in again, but if you worked security it would've worked. if you actually work in security, you're making your entire industry look like a joke.

>>19542827
How old are you? You think security pre-9/11 was better than now? Nice bait.

>>19542829
i'm old enough to remember that arena venues had metal detecting wands at the gate. you think the gate is about collecting tickets? it's about isolating people single file so they can be inventoried. the beauty of the wand is it takes 5 seconds and you can check an entrant head to toe for the amount of metal that a handgun would present. any sounds, and you move to secondary. what made 9/11 successful is that they were not carrying firearms, they had thin box cutters and mock plastic explosives. neither of which would have presented a concern for security at the time, but if the hijackers were carrying firearms it's next to impossible for them to be successful too. you're just proving my point.

>>19542827
>if you worked security it would've worked.
You don't have say over how things are run, I've literally been sent home for complaining, they just want to get people in the door.
>if you actually work in security, you're making your entire industry look like a joke
I don't know what to tell you, the world is not as safe as you think, I've worked in TSA and in the military, concert security is not on par, and if you think you're safe you're mistaken.

>>19542839
the beauty of the wand is it takes 5 seconds and you can check an entrant head to toe for the amount of metal that a handgun would present
That's not true. It helps narrow down there a threat may be, but it can't detect threats that are none metal and bad training practices can't be fixed by adding better equipment, I could go more in detail but I have seen personally how wands are a crutch to speed up a process in the wrong hands.
>any sounds, and you move to secondary
When is the last time you've seen a secondary screening pit enclosed from the rest of the populus at a venue? The answer is you've never seen this.

>>19542842
sadly this is the state of modern security. we're moving even closer to not having checks at the gates at all. eyes in the sky profiling people with cameras and AI. monitoring breathing patterns and gait. yet we have more attacks than ever. as they say in pokemon, gotta catch em all. if only it were that simple, now we have the illusion of security.
>>19542852
>secondary screening pit
I didn't say secondary screening pit, I said secondary. what's next in the process genius? locate the source of the alarm. pat the person down.

I DJ at medium sized venues, places large enough you have screening and they’ve never once checked my crates. Tommy works for TNA and was not too long ago internet champion or something like that. I’m sure he could get backstage even. If he bought a ticket like a fan like he was talking about that time that’s different. He could get his moment now though and he should pay the DJ to cue up this>>19542771
Right before he does it.

>>19542858
>If he bought a ticket like a fan like he was talking about that time that’s different.
this is why the gate and security is key. he didn't say he was going to scam his way in as one of the boys. he said he was going to pretend to be a fan and not get noticed? again, wouldn't have worked. people notice legends, want pictures and autographs. it would have been a mob scene, but the pictures of his face from the night would've been haunting if he pulled it off.

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>>19542857
Ok, "genius," let's say I have five people in a queue waiting to be screened, they are all considered threats at this point, where do you expect me to put them? I can't rightfully stop all screening at this point as like I said, it's not an airport, this is a concert, and if a certain percentage of the audience isn't in their seats by showtime the show might not even happen. So what do you do? You stick then where you can, people pass by them who are "clear," but there is no telling what type of interaction they are having with the unclear people behind your back. You think there are people constantly on the cameras at all times, and that could be true in some cases, but that doesn't account for human error and this AI you speak of simply doesn't exist in 99% or circumstances. We have plenty of ways to catch people after the fact, but this Minority Report perfect future you are imagining where we catch people before they commit crimes doesn't exist and it's high time you grow up and realize that.

The timeline where Tommy takes the shot may be the most based timeline there is. Theres multiple outcomes that could happen. Does Vince capitalize on it? Do they black hole it like Benoit? Or exploit it like Eddie? What if he shoots him but like the rat he is Heyman survives? Do people think it’s a work? Do they end up doing business afterwards and draw mega dimes?
I’m pretty sure Tommy should shoot this motherfucker and find out.

>>19542872
>where do you expect me to put them?
I'll lay this out really simple since it appears getting a guard card these days doesn't require a high IQ, systemic thinking, or creativity. the entrants are already in line single file to process through the gate. you have just passed the wand over tommy dreamer in line and it is alerting at his belt line. you instruct him to spread his arms and legs for pat down. if he refuses, he is a threat. if he accepts, he is still a potential threat. you pat him down. you don't locate a firearm, he is not a threat. you do locate a firearm, he is a threat and you move to subdue and arrest. it's entirely possible he pulls his piece at any time in this interaction and it moves to standoff. luckily the gate doesn't just have low level security grunts and also includes uniformed police nearby. the police intercept the standoff and put him down at the first opportunity without escalating the situation and risking the lives of those around him.
>perfect future
there is no perfect future. these events will happen, we can only hope to get them as close to 0 as humanly possible. if you do work in security, turn in your badge because you don't deserve it. you should be considering how to preserve human life instead of saying the system is broken and we need butts in seats.

>>19542887
You're just a retard, I get it now.

>>19542930
i love you too

GOOD GAWD ALMIGHTY

PAUL HEYMAN'S BRAINS ARE SPLATTERED ALL OVER THE MAT LIVE AT WRESTLEMANIA, MAH GAWD

>I CAN SEE PIECES OF HIS SKULL, JR!

MRS HEYMAN'S BABY BOY HAS BEEN ANNIHILATED LIVE ON PPV

>>19542881
His emotions are high and he only has a few seconds before security tackles him. I reckon he goes in blazing and in a packed arena, probably kills 4 or 5. Texas is a death penalty state, so he probably gets lethal injection sometime around 2010.

>>19542968
>I CAN SEE PIECES OF HIS SKULL, JR!
ayckchually jerry was gone at that point

>>19542976
>tackles him
this isn't mall security. there would have been multiple armed officers nearby at the gate and throughout every major corridor. he wouldn't have lasted a few seconds.

IMO it'd look like the Matrix lobby scene lads

>>19542976
He said he was gonna shoot himself when he was done so probably wouldn’t make it to trial unless they got the gun from him. Does Vince stop the show? I know that sounds crazy but Owen Hart splattered himself on the mat at Over The Edge which was basically an In Your House jr. PPV and it didn’t stop. This is Wrestlemania.

>>19543015
>Wrestlemania
there's no way they would continue. they argue owen was an accident. they argue they didn't know what happened to benoit. this would have been cut from the feed, and given the gravity of the situation it's unlikely that the show would go on.

>>19543027
Imagine they shutdown Wrestlemania and have to refund all those PPV buys and possibly the tickets? Vince would kill Dreamer himself if the police didn’t. I think x-seven was the biggest PPV in WWF history at that point, the first one that did a million buys Christ Vince would throw an aneurysm

>>19543067
imagine the alternative. maybe it's the middle of a match, maybe it's a part of the show where my way is playing on the speakers, maybe it's during an entrance. loud pops are audible on the audio. the video captures 67,925 people, not including talent and staff, in mass panic mode for a few seconds before fading to black, or worse, they zoom in on what's happening. an entire section of the arena is evacuated, possibly more. how do you get the room back to stasis to not see a mass walkout and expectation of refunds anyways? you think they could continue the pay per view when every news channel in america is going live simultaneously outside the arena?

>>19543015
>Hey, anything can happen in the WWF, pal!

the USA is a dangerous place