>>19560890Is dave shoot bipolar? He'll act normal for a few weeks then randomly starts desperately shilling aew with his life
>>19560890The Nick/Alfred/Paul? schizo going through his shitter feed and posting the daily crap nobody cares about routine
>>19560896There are in fact two Dave’s . One side tries to act impartial to the hate on AEW then the other side turns on the twitter machine. It sometimes bleeds into the radio show and Bryan often gets into shouting matches with Dave over AEW booking. Most recently the Dynamite diamond ring battle Royale booking, Dave lost his shit on Bryan trying to gaslight him.
>>19560890>which generally at the time ranged from good to excellentHow are the ratings now, Dave? They've fallen so far that 400k and less than 0.10 in the key demo have become normal. And that's why AEW is getting canceled. >lying about AEW being profitableYou know the Metlzerster's tilted when he starts doing this
>>19560890is Dave trying to eventually suck Tony Khan's cock or something
>>19560890how is that a crash out? morons have been saying this for like 6 years. they're the ones crashing out.
>>19560890AEW fans, from day one, used to claim that AEW was going to put WWE out of business and that their ratings and attendance were terrible. You reap what you sow.
>>19560905He always gets defensive and butthurt like this when bad news for AEW is about to drop. It's probably because the real Max numbers are getting exposed next week.
>>19560906He started off the newsletter with a random tirade because he’s been online all day yelling at his opposition. It’s not newsworthy it’s just him having a melty
>>19560906>T-THEY'RE THE ONES CRASHING OUT!!!!Nice crashout tranny lmao
>>19560890>Resulted in a profitable companyHow the fuck would Dave or I know that? I don't have their audited financials and neither does Dave.
>>19560918There is no reasoning with WON fans. They are deranged.
>>19560903Cry more bitchtits. I'm going to order and enjoy Worlds End tonight. Does that make you seethe? Mould? Cry? Haha.
>>19560918>December 29, 2025 Observer Newsletter: AEW’s status heading into the new year, Worlds End previewLooks like it's the lead story in the issue, not a random tirade. Not sure what that guy in the OP is on bout.
>>19560935>Mould?huh
>>19560935>Mould?Hitting the booze early, huh? I don't blame you desu, you're gonna need all the help you can get to make it through another shitty AEW PPV>>19560940>the observer's lead story is Dave having a melty about AEW being in the mudGRIM
>>19560931>How the fuck would Dave or I know that?dave both knows everything and nothing about AEW all at the same time
>>19560940> from day one > worlds end preview Are you dense?
>>19560933I’d be mad too if i paid 14.99 to read someone who still writes like they’re in fifth grade and can’t do basic editing.
>>19560964It's a yearly recap, you'd see those kinds of articles everywhere if you actually did anything outside of simp for a children's show
Even if they are profitable, that doesn't mean they haven't overspent on talent. They would be more profitable if they weren't paying the Young Bucks $4m a year each, for example.
>>19560890aew fans don't have to "deal" with anything. this is mental illness if youre incapable of just... watching whichever wrestling show you enjoy.
>>19560981This nigga shoot pays Dave $14.99 a month
>>19560981>if you actually did anything outside of simp for a children's showI don't know how you've mistaken me for an AEWtist but I can assure you I'm not
Dave's basically admitting to being an AEW fan here.
>>19560981moulding already KWAB save some for tonight
>>19560990I don't, I just checked the site before acting like a sperg about a twitter screencap
>>19560990lmao
>>19560890they've never made a single penny of profit, not one
>>19560890the victim complex comes from the owner himself
Why does Meltzer feel the need to defend a company like this? He's never done something like this for any other company but AEW.
>>19560890it's funny how dave worked his way into being such a big "journalist" only because no one else with any real aspirations wanted to be associated with wrestling. meanwhile for decades wrestlers have admitted to lying to dave just to fuck with him and he just goes on as normal. once someone semi competent like thurston came along dave just gave up and now how the newsletter is posting thurston's numbers.
>>19560984>Even if they are profitableThey aren't. It's just Dave lying again. Apparently he knows AEW is profitable before Tony does kek
>>19560935Trev lives in a mouldy flat confirmed.
>>19560896He's a jew, he's genetically predisposed to be a psycopath liar and a schizo. Now that he's older dementia is making everything come together and this is the result.
>>19560890Dave's full of shit, again. Nobody, literally nobody claimed they were going out of business day one because everyone including Dave knew AEW was backed with absurd money from Daddy Khan. Day one it was questioned if it really wanted to be a serious competition to WWE with it's fucking presentation - the first show was woke indie-riffic with trannies, cripples and HC mixed together with flippies - and that sort of please everyone salad has a self-life of mussels. Where the going out of business/ out of tv started was two weeks after Punk left the building because that event underlined how they could not maintain a Milly viewers and audience fatigue set in for the antics around it. And with Rampage out of the picture, Collision doing numbers Rampage was previously doing in the peak viewership - the naysayers were right to an extend. Tony can run the thing out of daddies pocket for 20 years, but to what extent and whether he can hold a tv deal for one show, let alone two is a whole different story. The problem is the same as it ever was Tony and Seltzer pushing his dick in Tony's ass
seriously what did he mean by Mould
>>19560890there were times where Dave used to acknowledge things were not going well for AEW and things were on the downswing. Yet he still acts like they can fill Wembley and don't tarp 90% of the already small venues they book.
>>19560890Nobody was saying they'd go out of business. TNA is still in business and they've never drawn a dime. Tony has more money to waste than any promoter ever. They'll be in business as long as he's alive. Who's Dave been listening to?
I legit think Dave can't understand what a bad faith argument is and probably the reason why he himself does it so often.
>>19561204malding maybe?
>>19561204Getting sloppy drunk
>>19561204big husker du fan
>>19560940E-drones lie as easily as they breatheThey're desperate for people like Dave just just give them an announce of acknowledgement. Professional wrestling and all the people associated with it are stand ins for a father they never had.
Dave is the most incoherent rambler, how is he considered a journalist?
>>19560890He's right, you know.>>19560896That's a normal reaction to having to hear from retarded E-drones all day.
>>19560964>AEW being in the mudthat's only true in your fat, retarded, delusional head though
>>19560896I'm starting to think he has to make a few obligatory pro-AEW posts or else Tony will start to blow up his phone.
>>19561289This is just what happens when you have a journalist without an editor.I read a few substacks from time to time and many of them got the same issues.
>>19560906What were AEWs ratings 6 years ago?What are they today?
>>19561388What were WWE ratings 6 years ago?What are they today?
>>19561388what were WWE ratings 6 years ago?what are they today?
>>19561403>>19561405raw average rating in 2019: 2.4 millyraw average rating in 2025: 2.8 millyepic fail
>>19561416>comparing worldwide weekly numbers to us live numbersare you shoot retarded or just pretending?
>>19561416looks like you quoted their "weekly global views" - what's their live viewership looking like?and why did you leave out smackdown?
>>19561289He isn't really
>>19561441>we go getseething lmao
>>19561416elite sissies? we do get at least 2.4 million right?
>>19561449>>19561454sure you don't want to try this joke one more time? lmfao
KWAB
>>19561403>>19561405Switched your IPs a little too quickly there porkroll
>>19561458Sure you don't want to keep sitting there refreshing the thread in a seething rage lmao
Dave knows WBD is going to drop AEW. He's tripping because next week the ratings include HBO Max and NXT is still going to win
>>19561462No, believe it or not, two different anons noticed your flagrant, retarded hypocrisy, you no-life, fat faggot.
>>19561246TNA got a fresh tv deal and they are drawing shows comparable to AEW now. There could be a change to that soon
>>19561454>>19561459>>19561473>we go get
>>19561474>blah blah blah two more weekslose weight, bitchtits
>>19561477Sure thing bud. Sure thing
>>19561477>No I'm not samefagging, we are just NPCs and happened to type the exact same thing
>>19561403>>19561405Wheels can't keep up with his samefagging in multiple devices lol
>>19561481Pro tip when someone accuses you of refreshing the thread in a seething rage, don't reply less than a minute later
>>19561454>>19561459>>19561504>we go get
>>19561488>>19561491you left yourself very open to that specific criticism, you fat retarded loser
>>19561533We're laughing at you for being a blatant samefag if you couldn't tell
>>19561555>Wejust because you're as fat as several people combined does not make you a "we"
>>19561533Oh no. Not that specific criticism. Anything but that.
>>19560896Dave is a jewish conman. He is retarded but he clearly shits on the entire iwc since they either subscribe to his newsletter or give him engagement on his twitter takes.
>>19561474That would seriously be devastating if AEW was available on both cable and streaming, and CW is only available on traditional TV and it still wins.
>>19561304>AEW ratings status: in the toilet>AEW attendance status: nosediving>AEW profit status: non-existent>AEW hope status: 404 hope not foundYup they're in the mud. Pretending they aren't doesn't help. You aren't doing AEW any kind of service here.
piggiEs get really mad when you remind them that AEW will go on FOREVER
>>19561748I want AEW to go on forever just to see how pathetic it can get. I'm really looking forward to its post-cancellation no TV arc kek
>>19561735>blah blah blah fat retarded pig noisesFuck you, E-drone.
>>19561758Except it's RAW that isn't on TV anymore, you retarded, projecting faggot lmao
>>19560896I legitimately think it's less about AEW and more about people calling him a retard for his maths and thinking there's 200-500k watching on HBO Max. Old man just doesn't understand streaming.
e-drones love embarrassing themselves lmao
>>19561766Yeah it's on Netflix now. Where's Rampage?
>>19561774WWE Network launched almost 12 years ago and AEW fans are fat, smelly nerds but somehow they can't figure out how to watch videos on the computer
>>19560940>lead story in WON is a propaganda piece about how super duper amazing AEW is doing right now
>>19561774>Old man just doesn't understand streaming.Dave knows 200k-500k on Max is a complete lie. He's lashing out because he thought the Max numbers would stay private so he could keep lying about them forever, but they're coming out next week and basically he's fucked.
>>19561068It's his dream company. It encapsulates everything he has been demanding North American wrestling do since the 90's.
>>19561862If they were bad WB wouldnt have built in PPVs for them
>>19560890AEW fans and their victim mentality
>everytime someone types like two sentences about AEW weather they are true, false or so clearly trolling that the person is literally labeled the parody account I frantically type a paragraph back or do three pages of math and just generally rage out and I don’t understand why they’re still doing itThat’s literally Dave. Rarely has a man so dammingly missed the don’t feed the trolls sign. Dave feeds em, baths em, gives em housing. Dave will avoid hundreds of questions a year from actual supporters of his who just want to nerd out on wrestling and answer thousands from “CREAMJUNKSUCKFUCK69” who’s entire question is “so when does AEW die, cause it’s been coming forever now and you know it”. That guy ends up getting a full essay.
>>19561869AEW's Max viewership is way under 48k. It's likely in the ballpark of 10k. Putting AEW PPVs on Max is free money for WBD so it's worth it even though the buyrates are going to be shit.
>>19561897no rational person would think this
>>19561908>implying AEW has 200k-500k viewers on Max when the most viewed NBA game of the season could only do 48kAEW does around 10k on Max. I'm right and no rational person would dispute it.
sounds like this will be the year fellow we we win e-chads and we can finally enjoy watching WWE
>>19561919no rational person would think this either
>>19561204Mald
>>19561933>thinking AEW is more popular than the NBAYou're being completely irrational. I'm being rational.
>>19560901> Dave and Bryan fighting where Bryan is the sound one and Dave sounds like a lunatic defending AEW to the deathI love those videos. Wish all of them are on for free on youtube.
What is Dave and the singular AEW pedo going to do next week when Programming Insider ratings will include Max?
>>19561954Why haven't any real NBA journalists picked up on this? Are they retarded?
>>19561988What point are you trying to make? Nobody cares what the NBA does on Max. I'm only bringing them up because AEW is obviously going to do lower numbers than a big NBA game.
>>19562013>Nobody cares what NBA does on MAXexactly, because no one uses MAX to watch NBA, which makes using it as some sort of measuring stick completely retarded. e-drones are retarded generally speaking though, so there's that.
>>19562013>NBA journalists wouldn't care about NBA streaming numbersthis is your brain on e-slop
>>19562034Max continues to be the least viewed streaming service. No one watches AEW on Max or on cable.
>>19562045christ you're fuming lolstick to making retarded schizo ms paint images
>>19562057Facts don't care about your feelings. So when the official Nielsen ratings include Max and only go up by 5k only kill yourself and leave your caretaker and your parents out of it.
>>19562078ill be here laughing at your seething fat retarded ass actually
>>19562078he's projecting his intrusive thoughts again
>>19562086>>19562097You will be here because you never leave. But you won't be laughing. You'll be crying like you always do and we will all take turns raping you. Tick tock only a few more days to hold on to your Max cope.
>>19562097you called it, here comes the rape fantasies
>>19562108You know you're getting raped when you have to reply to yourself. Once again you tried to hijack this thread but failed like your legs did
>>19561988There are no NBA fanboys claiming it gets a lot of max views. Normal people don't do that stupid bullshit lmao they watch the sport and care about the teams and players not cope fake ratings statistics
>>19562117Yeah they are. Your fatass just lives in a wrestling bubble. NBA fans are constantly talking about tv ratings
>>19562117LMAO e-drones proving ONCE AGAIN they don't know a single fucking thing about real sports
>>19562040>AEWtist keeps trying to make weird deflections about "NBA journalists"Your seethe can't change the fact that AEW is obviously going to have lower viewership than a massive NBA game. Which means they've got under 40k viewers on Max.
>>19562057>retarded schizo ms paint imagesEverything in that image is sourced from TNT Sports and the actual Nielsen ratings. It's all factual I'm afraid.
>>19562040The problem with that logic, is AEW is the minor leagues not NBA. nobody even knows what the fuck the minor league basketball is called let alone care about the ratings
>>19562129i doubt this guy even played any sports in school>>19562136>if i keep repeating it maybe they'll believe megenuinely unhinged
>>19562136>>19562148>>19562151bt losing his fucking mind lmaostill doesn't know how real sports work sadly
>>19562124>>19562129>tv ratingsMax isn't TV lil bro.
>>19562154>>19562155>I don't like these facts so I'm going to pretend they're wrongI accept your surrender.
>>19562159>>19562163keep going fatso you're almost there
>>19562155Trevtits you are irish, you don't NBA lil bro
>>19562167>you don't NBAok?
>>19562159But AEW has Good to Excellent ratings, per Dave Meltzer WON.
Wheels thinks that him trying out for the special Olympics wheelchair basketball team means he's an expert now lmao
>>19562169but wait anon why aren't the basketball journalist reporting on Max ratings? Dave does it so that must mean max ratings are super important. They must be biased shills who are paid off not to report it!!!
>>19562177the hbo stuff does better than cable on maxthe white lotus finale did over 3X the cable number if you think the numbers are that low you are a genuine retard
>>19562211wait i thought you were just defending aew because its a cult, do you actually believe it draws 500k on max? lmao
>>19562211>People watch popular showWow. Riveting stuff
>>19562211And the NBA does low numbers(which means AEW does lower numbers). Why are you even trying to argue this? Mavericks-Lakers proved it. Even Zaslav admitted live sports are insignificant on Max.
>>19562260He's giving corporate answers since he lost the NBA
>>19562260>NBA numbers are correlated to AEW numbers because>BECAUSE THEY JUST ARE, OK????
>>19562282aew numbers dont exist lol
>>19562282But AEW is a profitable company that overpays with a declining audience just like the NBA
>>19562315>But AEW is a profitable company
>>19562332>>But AEW is a profitable companyPer Dave Metlzer (WON).
>>19560890>which in fact has resulted in a profitable companyAEW still hasn't turned a profit in seven years. Meltzer is literally lying to his subscribers, who are by-and-large AEW marks. It's just out and out denialism and coping. This is the guy they insist is the greatest wrestling "journalist" of all time.
>>19562349AEW turned a profit this year with the new TV deal I'm afraid
>>19562353Don't you have to make up all your losses first before you can claim a profit?
>>19562397Can you profit while losing money every year?
So is it CONFIRMED that the Max numbers will be included in the Nielsen ratings starting in the new year?
>>19560903>How are the ratings nowPretty good, actually. Over 500k on cable and over 500k on HBO MAX every week. We are raping your precious little SLOPdown. Zaslav is happy with AEW's performance and he even sent Big Toné a very special gift this Christmas ;)Too bad for you that you are spending this holiday season fantasizing about the death of AEW. Hey, remember that time when you desperately wanted AEW to not get a TV dealy for 5 years and then AEW got a TV deal AND a streamy dealy? And remember that time when AEW DynaMIGHTY raped NXT so bad that Triple KEK got a heart attack and almost died? Lmao.
>>19563428No one's reading your meltdown, Trev
BT did not likes this thread at all...
I just want to remind people that day -982374982374987 aewtist said aew will kill wwe.
>>19561864>It's his dream companyOnly in ring. His dream company would have managers equal to or better than Cornette and Bobby Heenan, more wrestlers good on the mic instead of just MJF and a few others, old school style heated angles, more serious commentators, etc. Dave liked SMW more than ECW, but AEW seems more like ECW than like SMW.
>>195643201993 Observer awards ( fan voted but often also a reflection of what Dave goes to bat for) had SMW as best US promotion and TV show, top 3 managers and more, BUT zero matches in the top 19 for match of the year. (Steiners vs Heavenly Bodies at SummerSlam was 18th if you want to count that.) Modern fans obsession with star ratings has created the false narrative that Dave only cares about that despite the vast majority of his coverage having nothing to do with them.
>3%
>>19562282>Trust me bro, AEW is more popular than the NBA because... IT JUST IS, OKAY?You lost the argument.
>>19562353>AEW turned a profit this yearRight, I guess Tony just forgot to mention it. Kek. AEW still hasn't turned a profit I'm afraid.
>>19560896No, he has personal investment in AEW for a few reasons: it's run by his friends and a guy who worships him and the entire promotion is built around a Meltzerian philosophy of what wrestling should be, especially in terms of match style. AEW failing (which I don't think is the case) or having a low ceiling (which is the case) essentially calls into question his entire philosophy and views about what makes good wrestling and the career and mythology he's built around that which constitutes an immense blow to his ego. He tries to play it off as him being neutral or calm but when a big event comes along and it doesn't actually draw the interest he feels it should have, he feels he needs to pump it up. It's not shilling AEW as such, it's reassuring himself about how he's correct and everyone else is wrong.
>>19560931He knows because his friend and worshipper tells him it is and he's an actual poor journalist who does no investigation so he just takes it at face value.
>>19562353No, they haven't. That money is spaced out across three years, and none of it is guaranteed. WBD could decide to cancel Dynamite next week if they wanted to with no penalty (not that it's going to happen). Tony literally sank tens of millions on the creation of AEW Games and developing Fight Forever, which was way over budget and took nearly 4 years to develop.It's normal to operate in the red for the first few years, but now that it's 7 years later, AEW really should be turning a profit at this point if they want to stick around (unless Tony gets Daddy to sink even more money into it).
>>19563428> and over 500k on HBO MAX every weekIf you're not trolling, you seriously need to see a psychiatrist. The typical NBA game doesn't even get close to 500k on HBO Max, AEW gets maybe like 10-20k viewers on HBO Max at most.
>>19561289He isn't, he got laughed out of MMA coverage for a reason.
>>19561289He's only considered a "journalist" by smarks desperate to defend him. The reality is he's essentially a gossip columnist that spreads rumors and flat out makes stuff up sometimes. Then he throws up his hands and says "Plans Changed!" when something he "reports" on doesn't happen.His star ratings aren't exactly journalism. They're just the opinions of a senile autistic man with very obvious tastes and biases. There's literally no reason to take them seriously.
I'm crashing out too, I fucking hate Kris Statlander and I'm sick of her no-charisma ass being on my tv screen
>>19566718Lol really??
>>19566655can you provide a source to literally any of this
