Who do you think is the best wrestler in the world today? I'm talking pure in-ring ability, not promos or gimmicks or anything like that. who would you consider the best in that department?
>>19586250Otis
>>19586279really? explain please. not really trying to argue, just curious why him of all people?
WWE Hall of Famer Donald John Trump of course.
>>19586250No Way Jose
>>19586250Fletcher and that's an easy one. You can argue some are better due to experience but he turned 27 this week and he's competitive with all of them without it.
>>19586299He's round and it's funny.
>>19586250Jon Moxley
>>19586250Parker Boudroiux
>>19586250Logan Paul
>>19586250Jake Paul
I honestly think it's Shane Mercer. He's got it all. He's insanely strong, he can flip like an acrobat, and he makes every move look harsh and mean. Why he's never worked for the bigger promotions is beyond me, he certainly has the talent.
>>19586250I value creativity and expression in the ring more than mechanical skill, but the "technical" wrestler I like watching the most right now is Hechicero I guess>>19586316he's inconsistent as hell but the fucker can surprisingly go when he cares to
>>19586348He looks like short fat Buff Bagwell.
Kento Miyahara. Really good in the ring and knows how to pull a good match out of pretty much anyone you throw in a ring with him.
>>19586250still kenny. first match in over a year and he carried that cringe tryhard shitfaggot gabe kidd to an absolute kino match.
>>19586348Indie-rific, spending too much time asking for applause, and that move led to nothing. An acrobat would land on their feet not scramble on their hands and knees trying to get up. He should stick to moves he can actually do that make sense for his character.
Unironically Mayu Iwatani. You can all cry about it if you'd like and call me names and engage in all sorts of other little faggy copes but facts are facts.
I think it's Shingo.
>>19586377American wrestling would be better today if he was the modern Japanese guy the dirtsheets ran with as their main darling
>>19586421She definitely has the best pits.
>>19586382I've actually only seen him do that flip kick once. He normally wrestles more like the powerhouse guy he is.
>>19586432Also indieriffic. Buy an ad, Shane.
>>19586250Will Ospreay, who reversed engineered Kenny Omega matches to get a clue and make his flips mean something. Kyle Fletcher's solo run after ditching his Jannetty has been amazing but c'mon now, this is Billy GOAT we're talking about.
>>19586423Definitely the most underrated.
It might actually be AJ in spite of his age.
>>19586790Nic Nemeth still wrestles pretty well for his age too.
>>19586620I know this is a troll post but Kenny does like one moonsault and sometimes a flip to the outside. Ospreay flips or dives on everything he does. Kicks, dodges, bumps, cutters. Kenny is more of a Rob Van Dam/Jerry Lynn style movez guy than a flipper
>>19586885Fletcher can do all of this shit and has shades of Brock Lesnar level brutality, which no one else has. He's he guy.
>>19586790fed is fucked when AJ retires because he's still the best worker in the company despite being old as fuck. ironically rey is similar too, ancient but still moves like lightning and shames all these young luchas.the next best they have after him is like chad gable who chad gable sees as one step above a comedy jobber. i guess they have gunther at least.
>>19586924>who chad gable seeswho HHH sees, i meant KWAB
>>19586421>correct answer>provides excellent supporting evidencegreat post, anon!
>>19586250Either in terms of in-ring, storytelling, or natural talent:CodyPunkLoganTheorySethMayuEl GrandeDragon Lee (the traditonal Luchadore who bothes the least)AsukaDarbyJay WhiteAJ
It's Ospreay and it isn't even close. He's basically the super saiyan form of prime AJ Styles.
>>19586250In singles or triple threats, Iyo Sky usually delivers the best match on the PLE card.
>>19586380This. Already been around a year since that match, crazy.
>>19586924yeah gunther is great but other than him they don't really have a lot to work with.
>>19586790yeah I wanted to say AJ too
>>19587204The biggest issue when discussing WWE wrestlers is that only a half-dozen full-time guys on their main roster consistently get time to develop their match. Everyone else gets 13 minute matches at best.
>>19586250Dragunov
Kenny R. Omega.Yes still even now.Even with half a butthole.Put Kenny in the right place and he still puts on a match better than anyone breathing even now in his 40s.
>>19586250Hanger
>>19587173
>they need to play fight for 30 minutes because theyre telling a story in the ring Jesus Christ shut the fuck up
>>19586250Bandido or Fletcher
>>19586250Alberto El Patron
>>19587888Twitter put together a show for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09_doM_1VtM
>IT HAS TO BE THIS BUG EYED JOSHI THAT'S ALSO MY WAIFU AND A TOTAL OF 50 PEOPLE KNOW WHO SHE IS OR SAW HER MATCHES!!! HAS TO BE!!! I NEED TO FORCE HER ONTO EVERYONEEEEEEWhy are jeetshipedos like this
>>19587918>100+ minutes of nonstop piss break actionaint watchin allat either twin
>>19587869when did he get R'd
>>19587888First time I've seen someone get pissy about modern wrestlers telling too many stories
Ryusuke Taguchi
Sareee, though she probably won't get any credit for it due to being a freelancer and therefore excluded from the consolewar circlejerk
MÃstico
>>19588117Precisely being a freelance makes her a consolewar target
>>19587923>AND A TOTAL OF 50 PEOPLE KNOW WHO SHE IS OR SAW HER MATCHES!>her Cagematch rating is 9.74 with 554 votesHey, if you know someone better pull up their Cagematch page, otherwise know your role and shut the fuck up bitch.
>>19586250Roman reigns or punk
listen dude, Mayu was the best wrestler in the world, years ago. She's been booked like enhancement talent for years. Which is so funny because the perception of joshi age has changed but Rossy is a boomer of the past, booking for bald uncs. It was NJPW that strapped mayu with a top belt, not the guy she calls her daddy
>>19588922Cody is good too even though im not his biggest fan
>>19588923Vs Syuri, 2025: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9kpe78Vs Nanae, shortly after the Syuri match (although: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9j5r8sVs Iyo, back in October: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV19RxPzHEDP/A few botch picrels that get thrown around aside, she's also putting on good matches with the Marigold rookies:Vs Victoria Yuzuki, Marigold GP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eZG8ICWFbY&t=10sVs Seri Yamaoka: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94oxBrk9O2wI don't have a link but her match against Utami was solid as well, one awkward count aside. Her recent match against Hummingbird was good given Hummingbird's experience level. All this talk about her being washed is absolutely premature, she still puts on solid matches when it counts and has been doing a great job highlighting younger opponents and helping them to shine. None of her big matches have been stinkers, she's about as consistent a wrestler as you could ask for today.
>>19589080you're proving my point. marigold is a second rate promotion. even if she's finally getting respect in the booking division, it's too late. and this comes from someone who did think she was the best wrestler for years. but right now it's no different than me saying Miu Watanabe is the best in the world, or some guy in AJPW, because if you are not put in a position to sell out arenas against stars of equal caliber with something to prove, then you are just wasting potential, carrying a promotion that is under you. basically being Hulk Hogan in TNA, granted Mayu is putting more effort than that, but it doesn't matter, because the perception remains the same.
Pure athletic guy who's always gonna deliver a good, sensible, narratively gripping match, Chad Gable or DragunovOverall ability for storytelling and drawing as a heel, GuntherBut objectively, it's Stephanie Vaquer. WWE doesn't let her sell enough these days and they're producing her too much because she's their big thing, but objectvely, athelticism, stiffness and safety, pacing of matches, in-ring storytelling, ability to sell, aura, there's nobody that compares and certainly not joshisCope, seethe, dilate
>>19588909>Cagematch*tips fedora*
>>19589291Seethe harder about it.
>>19586515god forbid someone actually praises a wrestler who isn't approved by the network jews
Andrade.No I will not elaborate further.
