>Booker gives old school heel a new monster gimmick and starts a feud with an untested babyface out of the territories to appeal to a younger audience
that makes Vince McMahon = Unicron
Promo's good.https://youtu.be/F8_yib8Omj8?si=y276KSkKTHL5rQ0s
What is the wrestling equivalent of the G1 Transformers movie anyway
I remember reading someone review the movie in the style of Scott Keith
>Comedy jobber declares himself King of The Ring
>>19661190>appeal to a younger audienceWhat? the repackage was two years after is debut
>>19662341I found ithttps://web.archive.org/web/20030822232044/http://www.141empire.com/141cinema/smarks/smarks_transformers.htm
>>19662348Motally complex tweener Starscream from Armada who was distrusted by both Autobot and Decepticon stables but still tried to do tye right thing was the best version of the character.
>>19662405Two years is an eternity for toylines. You always have to try and react to or get ahead of the marketing trends.
arr rook same
>>19662499That's the problem with the redesigned Decepticons. They turned the Seeker Jets and Insecticons into Cyclonus and the Sweeps while removing all their personality. All looked like shit and shared the same purple/blue color schemes.
>>19662716saved on production costs for the series
>>19661190>younger audienceSeason 3 was darker, though.
Bump
>>19662348Kevin Nash of transformers
>>19662308Mania 17, because it went downhill fast after that.
>>19662716>Cyclonus and the Sweeps while removing all their personalityCyclonus and Scourge cut some good promos in season 3 (and the Sweeps were a fun comedy jobber goon squad, like the NWO B-team). But yeah, pretty dimeless in the movie itself. Galvatron carried the faction in the early days.
>*glass shatters*
>potential main eventer gets buried for the sake of pushing shitscream
>>19661190And the gimmick became a joke after it and they had to send him to a hospice as they did to Ric Flair in WCW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvWnF1Iggfc>>19662716TC became Scourge, Skywarp became Cyclonus, the insecticons became the generic troops.All 3 coneheads were murdered by Unicron.>>19662428Backfired badly after killing Optimus in the movie to a point Hasbro had to beg sorry, sell the toy back and give birth to the best Optimus ever with was the Powermaster Optimus Prime Figure
>>19666529big dimes grimlock was always my favorite transformer as a kid
>Face turn leads to the greatest generational run of all time
>>19662716>>19666428Scourge had a great monster heel run after trying to steal the title.https://youtu.be/tN3QiWn-MOM?si=hWVnM0xFdV8Gkk94
>put him with the hottest chick in the company>give him a top tier hype guy (Springer)>Still can't get overKWABOTY
>>19666800>Has the look>Has the ability>Company pushes him as the next big thing after the top face guy retires>Dimeless personality fails to draw in the endThe Lex Luger of Autobots
>>19666553Don't be silly, Soundwave has been a fan favorite since day 1 and doesn't need the strap.
>>19662308PPV?, there's nothing, but as for a moment it would have to be Hogan turning heel, both traumatized a whole generation of kids.
>>19666800transitional champion
>literally who undercarder in the US fed goes ever to Japan and becomes gigadimes monster heel
>One time gimmick match gets massive pops>never use it again
What Transformers comics are worth reading?
>>19667519G1 (US and UK, though be warned that the UK goes off in a different direction and might as well be considered a different continuity).IDW is pretty divisive. Some love it, some hate it. Personally I found it a little too "current year" for my tastes.The current Image Comics run seems to be pretty well reviewed, but I haven't read it yet.
>>19667534Read it anon, the Energon Universe stuff is Dimes, plus Kirkman is a based animated and bwfag.
>>19667547I'll get around to it eventually. I'm not the biggest Kirkman fan, but he seems to genuinely love Transformers, so hopefully it balances out all the usual issues he has in most of his stories.
>>19667534How linked are the US and UK comics? Do I have to read both to get the full story? I'm guessing the UK one is a bit more mature and serious?
>>19666574>All 3 coneheads were murdered by Unicron.The coneheads weren't there, you actually see them again in the last season of Transformers.
>>19667547Also IDW stuff only becomes garbage the moment the forced tranny faggotry is enforced by barber at the later stage with the anode the first trannybot alongside that comic's arcee, the rape of Spike and the Withwicky's into becoming sociopaths all to introduce their donut steels.Starscream, Optimus, Face turn Megatron, Soundwave, the Seekers, Windblade and Bee ends up becoming the saving grace thereStarscream and Bee has to be the best written shit they have done before the idw2 reboot.>>19667563Since i or other anon will do the G.I. Joe Storytime at /co/ weds if its ripped fast, ask someone there to do a recap storytime, it think the volumes are out by now.>>19667573Its their own thing UK and US marvel stuff are separate universes with one taking inspiration to another due to same writer.Generation 2 is literally a amalgam of both
>>19667573Originally the US comics were printed monthly and the UK comics were printed bi-weekly, so they created filler stories that eventually became their own thing entirely. They do have a darker, more serius "2000AD" feel to them. There's a reason Simon Furman became the main US writer after doing the UK comics.
>>19666800>Literally has the white as ghost version of top baby face inside of him, toys ready made>"Hmm, plans changed kid.." T: promoter, >movie you are introduced in takes a completely different turn>Relegated into a muscle for greenie baby face>Become jobber to the stars and entourage for comedy group>Greenie babby sucks so bad he promoter puts a McGuffin into him and gives him another manlier makeover >Booker brings back top baby face several times and makes greenie 2.0 job to him Ultra Magnus got screwed over worse than Bret Hart with Hulk Hogan.Imagine literally having the body Hulk Hogan in you and Hulk Hogan dying and Hulk Hogan coming back gets you no more involvement in the story than being in the background
>returns and buries cuck rod
>company pushes you as the new top guy with a tribute gimmick to the old top guy>after some initial heat ("truck not monkey!") You manage to get over and stay over even after gimmick changes and have everyone accept you as the new top guy>new management takes over and the company moves you over to a new brand and sticks you with some anti-dimes new age hippie gimmick>get buried after one short run
>Is the Micheals of the stable
>Former heel delivers such a great speech that his former heel boss turns into face out of spite to prove him wrong
>>19662341Is Scotter still with us or did he pass away like his nemesis Chris Hyatte?
>>19667547Warren is a legit mark, so his part of the run is full them throwing wrestling moves at each other
>>19668281Swindle is over with me, brother.https://youtu.be/hzhNcRgIGck?si=ocSjrugLoFaI7m_t
>Former Heel now turned face is trying to save his Wrestler wife from a Heel worse than his former boss and more abusive than him out of love>>19668321You never bet your asshole to galvatron either, he may ask for it later if you don't cease it to him in private.
>Comedy jobber gets over with the fans and keeps coming back for nostalgia runs
>American wrestler gets over in a foreign market>Contract expires and leaves town>Have another star take up the mantle, tweak it, but essentially the same character>Becomes a lineage characterHijo de Convoy
You have no idea how long I've been waiting to post this
bamp
For those interestedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRKeAG5QWW0
>the Great Khali returns
>>19667705Great promohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq1_6D9QS9Y
>monster heel teases turning face>company drops the angle completely by next week and releases him from the company>gives the gimmick to a rookie instead and continue like nothing happenedJustice for my nigga Blitzwing
>Goes into business for himself
>>19669332>gets buried 5 minutes later
>>19669332Unironically his one character trait in basically every continuity that isn't Armada
>>19668288What's this from?
>>19669540IDW 2005
>>19669540IDW1 Transformers, this is post Deceptigod Incident with shockwave where megatron becomes Autobot after Bumbebee pulls a Heroic Sacrifice and "dies"
Devastator was the biggest dime drawer of the deceptions and you all know it.
>>19669546>>19669548 Guess I know what to read tonight, thanks anons.
>Was there before the big promotion>Lost the ratings war>Bought out by the competition
>>19669860I watched this recently and actually enjoyed it. If you take it as it's own thing and don't directly compare it to Transformers, it's pretty good. Probably one of the better Hanna Barbera cartoons of the time.
why do you all hate starscream, he was vegeta for me before I knew who vegeta was
>>19666754>Dies in the ring after facing an entire heel stable in a gauntlet match
>>19669285The Berzerker of the Armada Universe. At least going by promo skills.
>>19669915I don't hate him. He's one of my favorite characters precisely because he's such a bastard.
>>19666800Creative fucked him over. A few more storylines would have done wonders. Unfortunately they rocketstrapped that green shitter Rodimus, now that's a KWABOTY
Cyclonus was raped in '86
>>19669860>>19669901>Hasbro is VinceI watched a GO BOTS retrospective recently and yeah, Transformers own the GO BOTS now but they're not allowed to use the toy designs. They can create new GO BOTS but then the discussion becomes why not just create new Transformers. It comes down to nostalgia. And I just don't think the GO BOTS carry much weight in that dept.Also did you know that GO BOTS were living aliens transfered into robots? Souls made steel.
>>19670051>Also did you know that GO BOTS were living aliens transfered into robots? Souls made steel.As I recall, Robotix had the same premise.
>>19670098I had them shits! Oh fuck that's even more morbid that GO BOTS. Souls turned into monstrous robot zombies. Wasn't that the "Geth" from Mass Effect? Lifeforms turned into techno-organic slaves?
>>19669915Starscream is my favorite character, he's just an irredeemable piece of shit coward in almost every incarnation
>>19670122Prowl is my mofo. Best death in Transformers canon. I'll take it!Wheeljack got killed offscreen.
>>19670136Prowl owns, especially when he gets a morally ambiguous cop gimmick
>>19667519>What Transformers comics are worth reading?This fucking acid trip.
God forbid someone try something not blue
>>19670143Pricey
>>19669313The takeover angle he had with his tag team partner was pretty boss.https://youtu.be/hMPu4Adi7JQ?si=O8kWmNMzrvfjdXg2
>>19670458Holy shit what's this episode lmao
>>19670514Its kinoGotta love the big dimes blitzwing,you just gotta
>>19669943All I remember that his move set included standing around and not moving and everyone else having to work around his limitations
>>19662418They just copied Dinobot's gimmick from the Canadian promotion
>>19670458>>19670514 NXT takeover ass episode kek
>>19670808IDW Screamer is literally the best Screamer and the best Face-Heel Ever, and all because he willingly got yellow fever.Kabuki's are strong
Sam Witwicky was raped in the steamy cybertronian summer of '92
>>19669313>BlitzwingIn the film, he jumps out of the way of Optimus and flees as the Decepticons all get fucked up. Reminds me of Logan Paul.
SWELTERING
>a babyface main eventer in his native Japan >became heel as religious extremist gimmick when signed to American fedI can't believe they did him dirty
>>19671276Shiabros...
>>19671276
>>19671430Young Spike wasn't raped and died like a bitch like Sam in the movies, but he is prohibited of ever participating at bash at the beach since he can't swim and is injury prone.Old Spike on the other hand, is based and Dimes, unlike his former partner Fortress Maximus who fell for the mega fist of doom
>Cuts insane, hard-as-fuck promos at house shows>Reduced to jobbing to the stars on the TV shows
>>19667699He was too coolHe had built in sunglassesIf they went with magnus then all the other bots wouldnt sell because of magnusmania
>>19671671You cant blame fort max hereMegatron was on a stone cold run in g2He buried everyone
>>19661190
>>19672270Minus in Prime, Prime Shockwave was Dimes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NHIlU4l02E
>>19671430KWAB
>Somebody Call My Momma starts playing
It's a crime that there's no way to play War for cybertron and fall of cybertron anymore.
>Face and Heel crashes out the Main Event but the show ends quickly before they clash>Need to wait til next week to see the highlights of the post show clashHow many times did this happen before?
>>19662341Scott Kieth. Jesus there's a name I haven't thought about in twenty fucking years...
>>19670142"Hey Overlord, you're a big nasty bastard, and Megatron says so too!"
>hyped up as megatrons 2 new strong partners>job every weekThat has got to be a rib on megatron when he was redoing his galvatron gimmick
Based Starscream should have had a run as the main face or main heel.
>>19676158Someone needs to be the chickenshit heel and that politicking diva Megatron was not gonna look weak
>Babyface Prospect gets injured and buried so badly before his debut that they need to give him a new gimmick if he recovers.
>>19670743Instead of saying 'Yites' and nothing else, Tidalwave is like Berzker because he just keeps repeating his name before squashing jobber Autobots. And I fucked up. It was Energon Tidalwave that had that gimmick, not Armada.
>>19676134They massacred my boy Bruticus.
>>19674758>>19676787Look what they did to him here. Dude is supposed to he a WWII badass. Not some neon colored asshole.
>>19668303I just miss my nigga...
>>19662348>when dolph won the title
>>19666814the Tyler Reks of TRANSformers
>>19666553>>19666947Soundwave = Scott Hall
WCW
>>19668288>megashitter always loses>portrayed as some nasty world-destroyer>Dr. DOOM of his story, looks cool but is a loser>utterly fails and is incompetentI mean... where's the lie?
>>19677035Nah, brand split
>>19669860they used Leader 1 in Armada or something. He is basically a headmaster gimp that gets used by Optimus and Megatron. Made him a little bitch.
>>19671569The Shinsuke of Transformers
>>19672270Based Pillman of the Attitude Era
>>19670143Everything is free on the Internet.
>>19677058Leader 1 is like Sting in WWF
>AEW
>>19677187What the fuck is that shit?
>>19677187ohnonono hahahahahhahahah
>>19677187TRANSformers. it's in the name. duh
>>19677210Earthspark. It was supposed to air on Nickelodeon but then got bumped to Paramount+ and canceled before it's full episode order was finished because nobody liked it.
>>19676998Scooter or Chris? I miss them both. They were a ying and yang for show reviews and hot takes during the Monday Night Wars back in the day.
>>19677251And there's been jokes about it over the years, but just like other forms of entertainment brainwashed dumbasses right out of college have to force this tripe into it. I'm glad it got KWAB'd.
>>19671671G2 Megatron going against psycho heel Bludgeon to take back control of the stable was one of the highlights of the New Generation era.
>>19677321yeah both I guess.
>Comedy midcarder becomes fan favorite and shoots on management before getting firedhttps://youtu.be/1igYzyrJYQI?si=PUAo0jTDyepGP6qV
>great build up>classic comedy heel now serious heel>galvatron back in the ring>an actual working heel vs heelDont lie, you popped for this
>>19668397kek
>Anticipated return of old school tag teams on screen, billed as the main focus of the show>Everyone looks like a million bucks return of old school G1 style , new team added.. what did they say they are fe.... oh no..> merch looks dimes (at the time - later releases mocked) even the new team sort of works.>The show is Booked by a fucking retard and woke writers trying insert a female with the worst possible persona into hotdogparty setting>Angry Femcel #28028 is the hero of the whole show, abrasive and pissy at everyone and everything all the time >Entire teams job to Herobitch taking them on solo, she's just that good according to retard producer>Model of Angry lesbo is literally made by a child and clashes with return of G1 block aesthetics>Everyone else works a super safe slowed down style against each other so there's nothing cool to watch despite 200 feet tall robots hitting each other>Call in Cenamus Prime and Rocktron to main event because the show sucks so bad otherwise>All they do is cut good promos at each other, working the money mark who hired themOnly thing worse was the sequel ..
>cuts a monologue promo during your match and no sells everything Not that they didn't deserve to be buried but this was so over the top and cringe.
>>19677965I geuss what they say is true, a paycheck IS a paycheck..
>>19677035More like the Attitude Era
>>19677965Menasor is the D. David Schultz of combiners.
>>19661190>Ratings tank
>>19661190so, you think you are unbumpable?BUMP LIFEthis is basic basic bumpanomics
>>19679045He was a shitty design. Who puts the "leg cars" behind the legs? No chest plate. Sucked.But the cars were all cool. And in the cartoon they're invincible in car form so they're just smashing into everything destroying shit.
>>19680069It has a chest plate car and crotch plate in the toy. But I don't know what possessed the artists of the box art, cartoons and comics to draw them legs like that - inflicting years of retarded debate on which is the intended configuration or better... It's cars parts in front, because the head/peg can only pivot towards the limb bots waits so the box art is just flat out lying to you, you can't bend or prop them up in the way it's depicted there
>>19679045Menasor is the biggest Jobber of the franchise
>It's a Kissplayers bra and panty match
>>19681530>Its a strap match for the belt inbetween the heavyweight and luchadora
>>19679045>>19680132Stunticons were based. Menasor sucked transistors. Hate me all you want but I liked Computron (Technobots). There was an episode where they merged, but were too busy calculating every move to win a fight and lost.The Rescuebots or whoever were cold boogers on a paper plate. Woulda been a lot cooler as Decepticon ambulances, tow trucks, etc
Who is the Cobra Commander of prowrestling? >"...I was once ...a man"gotta be an AEW hire
>>19683214>Old timer who comes back as manager of a heel stableProbably Flair or Arn Anderson.
>>19683246>"They don't make terrorists like they used to. Coooo... bra ck ack."How hard is it for prowrestling to steal storylines from cartoon kino? I'd make a feud mirroring Storm Shadow and Spirit.
>ECW
>>19683300How old are you anon?
>Hunter becomes the new leader of DX
>>19683308Late 30s. I watched G1 on my local Fox affiliate in the mid 90s but I found out about Inhumanoids on YouTube in college.
>>19683320Too many deep cuts. Trust me, we're the only ones left ITT. Get back to basics.Who is the Optimus Prime and Megatron of Prowrestling?
>Shoot invasion from an outlaw promotion
>>19683332Here's a bigger image.
>>19683346Kek, my bad and good add.
>>19683344I really wish they would have introduced the GO BOTS as the n.W.o.But for it to work the GBs would have to join forces
>>19682881The Rescuebots is a TF cartoon targeted to kids under eight years old that came out a few years ago. You're thinking about the Protectobots and I thought they were good, fun toys. Maybe it was because I was intrigued by Groove being the fist motorcycle in the toyline. My buddy got that set and was he was trying to get but could never find Sinnertwin to complete the set.
>>19683332Going by character Hulk Hogan is Prime with his family friendly Boy Scout-like persona and Ric Flair is Megatron. He's always scheming against the good guys and gets over on them for a bit until he is vanquished and also has small groups of people that actually want to cheer him on because he's kinda cool, yet reprehensible.
This is actually a good thread.
>>19683393Prowrestling and Transformers/GI Joe will always be connected forever (shared universe)
>>19667502>happened in america>2 stars
>>19683344https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArAsVfsZ028>grew up watching another promotion in another country, had no idea who they really were
>>19661190everything after G1 was unwatchable>Killed the top face who was over as fuck for a little crybaby bitch>Killed Star scream the best chickenshit heel in the business booking so bad they had to figure a way to bring Optimus back to save the business
>>19677187>Shits so gay It makes bay come back for another title runBret Hart in 93 of the franchise
Why they will never be able to top the 90s movie?, it's like their Rock vs Hogan or Bret vs Austin, no matter what they try or how they just can't seem to surpass it, not even the first 30 minutes of it.
>>19684299>the first 30 minutesNo movie can top that
>>19684299>>19685078I think that's why I don't mind it too much when a match opens with a bunch of high spots and early finisher span.
>>19685143How can you be a Transformers: The Movie chad and still enjoy prowrestling in 2026?It's like that Weezer jam>"The world has turned and left me here."
>PG Era cross promotion episode
i was done with transformers when they did away with this. fucking pussies.
>>19686130It's illegal for toy guns to look too realistic. They had no choice.
>>19686130How was he supposed to move around when he was an gun?
>>19686157How many guns do you own that move around on their own you fucking goof?
>Wrestler receives a new Dimes gimmick after rising to the Main Event>>19686130US Laws prohibits that, blame dems.Second that unironically his Tank Mode since G2 fucks.
>>19686169How many sig 320s were made ?
>>19669860>Tries to bury Mighty Orbots>Gets buried by Transformers KWAB
>>19666800he got cucked yet again in the latest comic issueULTRA KWABNUS
>>19686196G2 was peak of transformers in terms of artstyle and general vibe
>>19686205His comeback run is gonna be bigKane with rock and hogan backstage big
>>19686214The 90's EXTREEEEEEME era was unironucally one of my favorite eras for comics.
>>19686205Shockwave gave him the full 1992 treatment, please understand.Shockwave probably had predaking do his ass to a point sitting still hurts for him til this day.>Still isn't the worst thing that is about to happen in said issue because jesus fuck, megs pulled a Jose Gonzales on a certain Autobot>t. got the physical issue
>>19667616IDW was a mess in general. Apart from making random Decepticons into faggots, they had a literal communist writing GI Joe at one point.
>>19686205he exists to job
>gets his gimmick stolen by a womanMagnusbros...
>>19686232Beast Wars was the Attitude Era of Transformers, G2 and G.I. Joe EXTREME was Literally the New Generation.First Action Man Series was ECW(Eastern Championship Wrestling) prior to Heyman, Action Man 3d Reboot was THE ECW people knew and love and hasbro copied to G.I. Joe after it>>19686282You forgot Prime where his hand was KWABBED by Predaking and he was voiced by Michael Ironsides of all people.
>>19686196>>19686286by the wayShe looks like Tiffany Stratton now prior to the first jaw reconstruction surgery at NXT
>>19686286Magnus is certainly the Jannetty but this womeme gimmick change won't last
>>19686569Kirkman is writing and is staying, plus Hasbro has plans for her they couldn't fulfil years ago because Everyone's Favorite Face was chosen to return and he came back, and Prime! AND AS KING OF THE RING 2019!
>>19686249Hasbro hasn't had any idea what to do with GI Joe since the mid 90's. The tried to jump on the anime bandwagon with Sigma 6, then tried to do a serious cinematic series with Renegades on the Hub Network around the same time as Transformers Prime, then tried to do a cinematic universe with that Snake Eyes movie and the crossover hint at the end of Rise of The Beasts. Now it's just a retro line for nostalgic collectors.
>>19686645if they were to do, they need to address the transformers and now M.A.S.K. per the latest issue, plus Slaughter would gladly return to voice Himself or even a Autobot if given a chance, the problem is that Hasbro fucked things so badly with AEWspark that they are probably waiting for Energon to mature more so they can work on a new unified show.In fact i wont see the rock ever returning to the franchise seeing that they killed Him on the first opportunity, Far more easier to see even Cody voicing Duke.
>>19686645We ressurect chris latta to voice cobra commander and have him host a talk show with various war criminalsI want a debate between cc and genghis khan>>19686682Rock should come back to cybertron and play the jabronitron
>>19686591>Everyones favorite faceAll he has are lips,big lipsYou telling me he turns into a black monkey and has big lips...
>It just goes to show that nobody's ever really "disabled" as long as they have courage!>That doesn't really apply here, Chip, but we uh...get your point!
“Baw gahd, Cliff’s in trouble”
>>19687301Reminder that The Rock voiced Cliffjumper in TF prime's debut movie
>>19686130Blame the bleeding heart liberals in Congress back in '87-'88 for getting the bill through committee and passed.
>>19686199The Orbots were pretty fly, but couldn't really get out of developmental and dropped from their ID contract not too long after their debut.
>>19686130I remember kids bringing Megatron and Shockwave to school and teachers bitching about it and kids bring em right back the next day and basically tell the teacher to fuck off,
I feel that Matt Cardona is probably telling chelsea that he will buy this and have their kids spar with him and have him sit at the pool to troll visitors.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BslXnFzNJTASecond is maybe Bronson Reed because Australia didn't had toy stores in the middle of nowhere
>>19686282The Johnny Rodz of the Cybertronian promotion.
>>19686682>if they were to do, they need to address the transformers and now M.A.S.K. per the latest issueIs Matt Trakker still melinated or did the do the right thing and bring him back to his original, pure form?
An ass whooping is the right of every sentient being>>19687633As both and avid Major Mark and transformer collector, Cardona does not do any TF whatsoever
>>19662406Holy kek
>>19687683He is Half-white but with black features, not full black as the IDW1 shitshow, also you better read the one shot from the energon universe because tomorrow once is out people will go nuts with it since they confirmed what is coming for 2026.https://readallcomics.com/free-comic-book-day-2025-energon-universe/Which by the way Hasbro could finally reach WWE to do another collab since the LJN toys are doing well.
>>19667616>IDWtheir writers have dropped the ball on literally everything theyve ever touched
Shades of 1992
>>19687718Doesn't he just stick to wrestling figures with the occasional Star Wars figure discussion mixed in?
>>19686645Renegades was kino and infinitely better booked than Prime but it was a dead fed in a dead territory so it never stood a chance. Prime meanwhile was such a booking disaster that it destroyed merch sales and nearly killed the Jap territory. Now only the nostalgia acts get good quality merch.
>>19661190it was like wcw where the heels were cooler than the babyfacesmegatronsoundwavestarscreamthe NWO
>booker keeps giving the hypocrite pedo gimmicks to the same cookie cutter CAWshttps://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/wireStory/prosecutors-20-year-sentence-south-carolina-lawmaker-sharing-129192111