Another smark narrative crushed? Must be day that ending in a Y.
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>>19672314Dave estimates buyrates with Google searches
>>19672314I’m glad someone’s finally calling out these unrealistic ppv buy numbers aew claims they get I’ve been saying for a while now the numbers don’t make sense
>>19672314>Collision does like 200k viewers>PPV magically does 140k buysThe math isn't mathing
>>19672314>>19672485>I-it's not possible!>why?>it just isn't, ok?
>>19672314The PPVs have always been excellent and TV fell off. It's not rocket science.
Wow, it's almost like in The Attitude Era there were casual fans who watched the TV but didn't care enough to pay real money for PPVs, whereas AEW's much smaller audience is comprised of hardcores who are much more likely to spend money on the product, giving them a higher conversion ratet. high level mathematician
this is retarded and sounds like someone who has no idea what he is talking about, nor even remembers the attitude era. or the 90s.and the fact he's using the "uncle dave" thing sounds like hes an autist who spends all day listening to jim cornette
>>19672609Great argument, you totally proved everything he said wrong with hard facts and data
>>19672541>it just isn'tBecause of basically every historical precedent
>I'm a bit of a stat nerd
>>19672314The PPV numbers being mostly static despite the TV audience shrinking has always just been fabricationIt makes no sense and no other TV-PPV in history has managed to retain like that, it goes beyond a statistically anomalous retention to a completely unique outlier that defies all logic.
>>19672588i was the only kid at my school (and the 3-4 friends that would come over to watch) that saw any PPVs from the attitude era/Monday night warsonly know a few people that still watch wrestling as an adult but they all buy most PPVs, even though most of them don't watch the week to week tv
>>19672745you sound stressed
>>19672785Yeah your mom keeps begging for my BBC
>>19672785The tag team of trev and projection is undefeated in the /pw/ fed
>>19672588There's also the fact that piracy and illegal means of real-time viewership were non-existent back then and incredibly easy now which is another factor that would swing PPV buys historically upward and modern downward
>>19672541It's not possible because the numbers are nonsensical. AEW lost 290k fans between 2023 and 2025, but Dave wants us to think they only lost 7k PPV buys? Complete bullshit.
>>19672785You sound like you're trying to damage control Dave's blatantly fabricated numbers but you can't actually defend them so you're struggling to think of anything to say and coming up empty.
>>19672992Dave has the marks believing that AEW has some of the best PPV conversion rates in the history of PPV wrestling but somehow Tony Khan isnt bragging about it on twitter.
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>>19672314The TV numbers are for the US, the PPV numbers are worldwide.
>>19672565>The PPVs have always been excellentThey used to be. They've fallen off so badly in the past year though starting around All In
>>19672697Aw sweet another porkroll Family Guy meme post>>19673200Kek glad someone else has caught on
Worlds End went magically up from 115k to over 140k buys in the span of a year. That's an almost 30% increase while every other AEW metric is down.Totally legit, guys.
I can believe there's some who might be buying the PPVs but not bothering with the weekly show anymore in the same way some people watch Wrestle Kingdom but nothing else from NJPW but I doubt it's at the numbers Dave claims.
>>19673371They added Amazon and Max as carriers since then all of tv is down, especially wrestling after the Nielson fix Also, their PPV attendance has been pretty much steady for years And for me personally, their PPVs are pretty much the only thing must see for me in wrestling right now along with WK, WM and RR.
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>>19672745It's like AEW getting 500k on Max, but no drop in the TV ratings. 500k new AEW fans just appeared out of thin air. It's fucking retarded
PPV buys are worldwide
>>19673839This, OP's post is some amerimutt idiot who lives a in bubble and forget the rest of the world exists, you can buy PPVs worldwide
>>19673885they’re also much cheaper internationally
>>19673839>>19673885>>19673917These are numbers Dave makes up based on Google searches. They don't represent PPV buys international or otherwise.
>>19674142Correct. All Meltzer math is based on crap. The supposed Max numbers are based on Dave polling his subscribers.
>>19672485It’s like when China reported that their GDP grew by the same exact percentage every quarter
>>19673839>>19673885nobody worldwide watches this shit so thats horrible logic
>>19672314>TV to PPVInclude streaming, YouTube, etc, and it adds up to about the same probably.
>>19672314What doesn't he get?>Streaming didn't exist in 1998>Either did social media or YouTube>The TV numbers reported are USA only>Even accounting for all that they're still nowhere near the PPV rates of the 90sIt's like he's refusing to acknowledge things have changed dramatically
I don't see what's wrong with that given they're not counting coverage from other markers and streaming, YouTube, twitter, all that other shit. And 140k PPV buys isn't that insurmountable when you consider it's never been easier to order a PPV.
>>19672686thats like saying a working class obese person cant travel faster than 20mph because of historic precedent (before cars)
>>19675974>>19675983>>19676001wtf? blatant coordinated bot raid
>>19672314I’ve bought AEW PPVs and I don’t even watch the weekly shows or follow AEW particularly
>>19676011>No arguments detected I accept your concession
>>19676018You have bought a total of 0 AEW PPVS
