Don't watch AEW so not console war BS, the show sucks fucking ass how are they making so much compared to when it was a cultural phenomenon in the it's and it's or anytime it was actually good?
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>>19715540same reason paw patrol draws really, audience of kids retards and disney adults is a license to print money
>>19715540What's so bad about it? And don't mention the ads. Every sports league is filled with advertisments. It's never going to change and it's redundant to bring up as criticism.
>>19715540>retard can't comprehend that people like things he doesn't likeNo, you personally not enjoying what they're doing currently doesn't mean "the show sucks fucking ass". Many, and I do mean many, people do in fact enjoy the current show enough to justify spending on the exorbitant ticket prices and merch.
>>19715540it's making more money now because the value of money has changed. we live under a hypothetical economy ruled by advertising. a product and it's quality is insignificant today, it's marketability and monetization is how it's valued.ads rule the world now.
>>197155612 years ago you'd be right. today WWE is critically panned across the board.
>>19715540>in the it's and it's
>>19715568Will you ever accept that cagematch is meaningless to the majority of wrestling fans? It's an echo chamber for WON cultists, nothing more.
Regular tickets are a thousand bucks now and Netflix and the Saudis overpay upfront for the "content". Maybe Netflix will renegotiate if the ratings keep going down. The Saudis don't give a fuck
>>19715608This and they are able to milk autistic man babies with great ease thanks to decades of data harvesting. Why try when you can milk the pay pigs dry
>>19715540>Dollar value down>General Price inflation>Ticket prices up 1000x from 00's or something like that SummerSlam nosebleeds used to cost 30 bucks, now it's 300 average and those ring sides are 10k easy, per seat>Netflix paid absurd money>ESPN paid absurd money>NXT got a better deal with CW and sell it's own house shows, PLE's do ok - good too for Shawn's gang>Merch price up like 30% quality got worse so profit margin is bigger>SNME as a extra date every month>Saudis paid for Rumble and WrestleMania>Perth paid money to come there>European tours are multi date pillaging runs And not just what is aired - asking for 300 tickets for arena sized house show>Clearly cut production values on PLE's like last mania>Smaller screens for entrance way, less pyro>Big talent cuts last year, new guys pay structure vastly under cut and organized in a way more profits go to company>AAA becomes streaming hit and gets Fox show, more money incoming for rightsThere's plenty of reason
Also PLEs are 2 days now and the piggies pay not matter what because FOMO
>>19715540The TV rights deals plus the Saudi deals are basically what's driving it. Netflix paid far more than traditional cable for Raw, plus millions more for the international archival rights.Plus, like others have pointed out, far more marketing and product placement than Vince was ever willing to do (which all looks tacky as hell, but it brings in a ton of money).
>>19715635You need ESPN+ to watch any of the PLEs. It's not like people are buying two separate nights of PPV, it's all one monthly streaming service charge.
It's called capitalism, they are constantly refining how they get the most money for the worst possible product. As American wrestling fines this should be extreme obvious when you compare the original WWE network for 9.99 to having less content spread across multiple streaming services for like $15 each.
>>19715645I'm talking about the tickets, piggies blow 40K on "WrestleMania weekend" like is nothing to watch both days, SummerSlam did the same and more to come
They got better at monetizing If you sent modern tko tricks back to the attitude era wwf would have made trillions
And finally WWE is the perennial brand name for wrestling, it's grandfathered into a huge audience. By this point It doesn't matter how good other promotion could be people will still watch wwe
>>19715540They make it through commercial deals and their arena shows, selling tickets for insane prices. If the average ticket price is $300 and they do two shows a week, they could be making upwards of $300m a year, and that’s without PLEs factored in. They are a huge brand and there will always be someone willing to pay for them, the Netflix deal alone averages out to hundreds of millions or billions per year, which is almost pure profit for them.
>>19715540>Record Breaking Profits-HOW?TKO focusing on profits, pretty simple stuff.
>>19715540TV Rights deals is where its all coming from now as shit as they are doing now when they signed that deal they were hot so they got a good deal.from what i hear Netflix has a 5 year out clause if they aren't happy also they are gouging the fuck out of their fans for tickets rumors are they are maximizing profits as best they can for a sale.
>>19715540it's less about the show itself but more weird monetization shit. they aren't making money by putting on good shows people want to watch, they're just finding weird and creative ways to make money from it
>>19715540I will never believe the "record profits" meme until I see real proof of it. I'm sure they're making lots of money, because they are ruthlessly juicing the fans for every dime, but I seriously doubt that they are making more money than they did in the late 90s when they were pulling tens of millions of viewers and selling out arenas wherever they went. if they are actually making "record profits" then I guarantee it is due to corporate deals with richer companies, gargantuan price-gouging, and cost-cutting at every turn because the quality of the shows continues to plummet and the fans never seem happy.
>>19715551fuck that argument, we have every right to complain about excessive ads. that kind of passive paypig mentality is why every other professional sport is filled with ads now. you say nothing, it gets worse. there is nothing wrong with having sponsors but there must be limits as to how much the sponsors are allowed to invade the show.
>>19717431You don't necessarily need more people if the people you do have spend heavy. One thing that helps the joshi promotions stay afloat is the people who do attend joshi shows are heavy spenders. They're going to buy the ticket, all the merch to their favorite joshi, and any kind of meet and greet or signing or photo opportunity. While WWE has a shrinking fanbase I'm sure there's plenty of superfans who spends thousands a year on WWE and will keep spending thousands on WWE because WWE is their life.
Remember that WWE makes most of their money off other companies buying the rights to air it. So, the actual value of the product doesn't matter, only the percieved value.There's a huge media rights bubble right now, and with inflation. They're probably barely doing any of that on tickets.
>>19715540Record breaking inflation and brown global audience being targeted. Simple as.
>>19715780Fuck TKO, Vince didn't need those prices to make a profit in the Attitude Era. Shapiro and Khan and the rest of them can go fuck themselves.
>>19715551>And don't mention the adsKill yourself. "Every sports league does it" is not an argument.
Because people keep letting themselves get fleeced by TKO
>>19717520 >ThisBefore any service goes to a consumer, the oligopoly of a few actors with unbreachable overheads compete amongst each other about speculated projections of value exchange, that only may perhaps happen.> fewer people as a smaller percent of the increased modern population are bled for more by monolithic businesses that pay merely to fill air time without first caring for quality but that statistically at least zero viewship is less probable; doing all this, and willing to pay at face value overpricing, merely to deny eyes to the limited rival screens, lacking regard about what is the benefit of the transmission for the sake of transmission itself as the meaningless "product".
Its pretty much all TV deals. The networks and streaming platforms will pay stupid money to get something like WWE which has a dedicated fanbase for live TV (where all the ad revenue comes from). 52 straight weeks of consistent live TV ratings is very appealing to the networks and Nick Khan is there to really work them and big up WWE far more than it is.
>>19715648>If anon here has been meme'd by -capitalism bad- may this make some of your braincells work actually-If by capitalism you mean a 'market', then that is right liberty. -If by capitalism you mean 'crony' capitailism/ cheating/ being unethical, everyone gets already that aint it-Correctly understand that economics is a science of morality, and it is authorized to fix bad commerce, though with that the evil (NOT the house of torture leader) of stealing from people or individuals/ state gets all private property/ commie socialist nonsense, is not now or ever legitmate.>but yes government leaders under natural law should regulate their jurisdictions as needed, and TKO is as much in the grime as there broadcasts are slop.
>>19718736plus, and with that all still standing, it is not more profitable there is only more money being moved around. but that is due to dollar inflation which you have to use in comparing to the past shows, which reveals not even a gross increase especially against the real boom periods. And if wrestling remains as irrevlevant and percentage-wise unpopular as ever there is no way they are netting in the green. But the networks make that work by skating by on usury dispersed across large time spans so the sting is hidden as they overpay money they dont actually have liquid at present to keep the machine grinding forward.
>>19718815more cash in production/ unavoidable costs/ the wrestling itself with it not made back at the true consumer/ gate level; but they sold disney suits and netflix an (unreasonable) estimate of the future that they were never going to hit, but a bunch of boadroom heads have enough play money and too-big-to-fail security to rush an agreement if at the minimum to spite their opposing execs while seeming like they are doing something as opposed to sitting on their hands.I.E. this is to say wrestling isnt wanted or valuable or hot now people are slaves to screens more then ever and rulers arent having qualms about keeping it that way
