>Fed keeps bringing back old stars because no one in the current era can get over.
>>19773911Shonen Jump will always have Dragon Ball Naruto and One Piece to milk to death so they don't have to worry about anything.Also Demon Slayer killed all 3 but retard nostalgiafags don't want to leave their bubble.
>>19773911Literally one of the people in your pic got over despite the bookers, you absolute faggot.
>>19773911>Demon Slayer killed all 3Maybe on planet tourist retard
>>19773939>Demon Slayerettykek those faggots can't even beat k-pop slop hunters
>>19773911Get rid of RATku, keep STUDjita.We also need more Jiren.
>>19773911>bringing back old starsThey "brought them back" ten years ago. They've been the top guys ever since Super started, and this anime continuation is based on the manga material, so it's not a return in the same sense.If anything, they've been gearing up to push other talent between the gimmicks they've been giving Piccolo, Broly, and Gohan. So it's likely they're building the fed around about five-to-six guys, as opposed to just two.
>>19773939Demon Slayer is fucking dogshit, and even then, its fans didn't like the movie.
>>19773911That's the Hogan and Austin of the business
>>19773939All Toei needs to do is oficially announce the Heaven arc and they'll make more money than Demon Slayer.
>Got the title back after years of being bumped down to a mid-carder>Fed trades it to the old giga face the minute he's bored, and wants to do a run
>>19774784This arc takes place before the Super Hero movie. They'll get to Gohan again when they catch up.
>that one stable full of antidraws the fed keeps pushing but can never get overWhen will they get the hint?
>>19774784>gets the pity nostalgia run>"hey guys remeber when I was white hot back in the cell saga and I went over at the cell games years ago? Here's a shitty rehash of that!">same old "i gotta train because i lost my power again" arc in multiple sagas>fags eat that shit up anywaysBeast Gohan is Triple H. Never the guy, given the strap when the big name left, sucked so bad that Goku had to come back and take his spot
>>19774784>Doing the same same angle that got him over but worse.>Thinks this is enought for him to carry the Z fed.It was a nice nostalgia run but Gohan has been a geek for too long to ever be as over as he once was.
>>19773911PIGjita is not a star. He's a comedy jobber midget who only exists to get beaten up by the heel until GODku comes to save the day.
>>19774879He's undefeated against Goku.
>>19774887...in the cuckold competition.
>>19774827Fuck you. Bleach is my shit
nothing after cell saga is canon
>>19774893
>>19773911Give Broly the strap
>Mega over heel with a white hot gimmick that was ruined by bad booking is repackaged years later as a baby face with his gimmick slightly tweaked.>It fucking works and he becomes a massive draw and pillar of the franchiseAny other cases like this?
>>19774915No one likes Nuly the retard. OG Broly was a monster, new Broly is a dog.
>>19774915Brock when he entered his cowboy arc
>Always over>Gets a giga pop the minute he enters>Never made the guy
>>19774915Nuly got buried in his own PPV by big match GOATgeta which really killed his hype as a monster heel. Now he's just a comedy jobber stuck in the mid card. It was so bad that they had to bring back the old gimmick and are back to pushing him again.
>>19774965They never stopped pushing the old gimmick, retard. Now they push both and double dip.
>>19774915They need to bring my boy Cooler in for a run
>>19774960Toriyama pulled a lot of vince tier booking back in the day. Piccolo, vegeta and gohan should have been given the strap on multiple occasions.
>>19774965I don't watch indie shit. If it didn't happen in the fed it doesn't matter.
>>19773911Shonen peaked with DBZ & will never outgrow the cultural impact of the series. Even big 3 era pales in comparison in some ways & Naruto got fucking statues. It’s like being a band & writing the perfect song early in your career, DBZ has everything a boy or teen would want in a series>Cool main that likes fighting & gets stronger every passing arc>fun supporting cast, some of whom you can prefer to the main>interesting world building that allows superheroes, sorcerers, androids, pirates, and everything in between to exist >dime drawing villains Sorry but I’ve watched the new slop the zoomers think is a “banger” & pity them.
>>19774977Still doesn't change the fact that nuly is an antidraw.
Anime is in the same fate as wrestling: New stars (My Hero Academia, Jujutsu Kaisen, Demon Slayer e.t.c) can't get as over as the old ones and the editors have to milk the old stars (Dragon Ball, One piece) again and again.Attack on Titan was good but it was short.
>the main eventer got pushed down the card and got a dancing gimmick
>>19775018>Still doesn't change the fact that nuly is an antidraw.
>>19775012The fed is shit, goku and vegeta are still getting pushed with most of their matches being borefests that come off as squash matches. The developmental fed they was pretty dimes then they killed it with a rebrand. Not feeling this new PPV they have coming up either, it's just a house show being redone for a live taping with that new guy with the goat gimmick.
>>19775035Could be worse. Some former main eventers are just forgotten.
>>19775004I wish they’d revive the Ginyu force gimmick & let Gohan join them for actual intergalactic posing hijinks
>>19775040Outdrawn by the reze movie.
whatever happened to the Jiren guy? you know that literal who who got a main event push the day he debuted?
>>19775061Just let it go, he was a main eventer in what? 1987? Just let it go man.
>>19775063Ginyus were unsafe shitters who nearly killed Gohan in their debut no way would Gohan want to have anything to do with them.
>>19774914Broly doesn't need the strap, every time he shows up he puts asses in seats and works the crowd. God bless him for still putting in the work after all these years, gotta love the big guy.
>>19773911>no one in the current era can get over.>only series drawing over a half milly per volume besides juan piss
>when the cartoon characters but the wrestling words This was never funny. Fuck off
>>19775063>Guy floundering in the midcard joins a forgotten stable & rejuvenates it into prominence Dimes
>>19773911They need to go back on the juice they're too fucking skinny now
>>19775102Sorry brother but /pw/ is a CHADgon ball board.
>>19775061Tein is the William Regal of DBZ
>>19775069After the booker died he hasn't had a chance to make another appearance since they haven't done the multiple universe gimmick again yet
>>19775069Still over and still the strongest guy in the locker room. He'll probably get another run in the future.
>>19775112>They need to go back on the juice they're too fucking skinny nowNo idea what you're talking about. And they were never on any juice it was pure Saiyan genetics.
>>19775102>Wahhhhhh why can’t every bumped thread be muh console warsShutup
toriko was secretly the michaels of jump. 90% of anime fans haven't read it though.
>>19773939Demon Slayer?
>has a good showing in the Buu PPV>relegated to comedy jobber every time afterLike I know he can't be the guy but c'mon
>>19775140Toriko was the Lex Luger of Jump.
>>19775061Tein is the Bob Backlund of DBZ.Fact
>>19775168actually you know what when you say it like this I think this is probably more accuratestill thinking about that time luger tapped out Hollywood hogan live on nitro and won the world title. literal giga pop
>jobs out both top guys in a squashWhat the fuck is this booking
>>19775132>pure saiyan geneticsfuture trunks was always running away from dr. gero's stable, he has no time to lift some weights and get a clue. that nigga got the miracle science juice from his mom
>>19775168No because people actually still talk about Lex Luger. More like Buck Zumhofe lol
>>19775040Gogeta drew the house here, not SHITly.
>>19775213I wouldn't call a post match ambush a squash but yeah it was pretty egregious. Gotta make Freiza look strong for yet another main event run though.
>>19773939>NarutoIt's no longer on the same level as the other two. It's below even Bleach now.
>Future Trunks has the greatest debut of all time>Gets squashed for the rest of the Cell PPVDid he have heat with Toriyama? He even gave his gimmick to some 10 year old kid.
>>19775356Trunks was a junky and couldn't stay clean. Toriyama brought him back for the Super fed and he couldn't stand straight. Tori buried him and his storyline in the Goku Black angle and released him.
>>19775168>>19775206>Artificially pushed by the promoter into over exposure >big push was watered-down corny garbage for kiddies>people appreciate him more once the big artificial push stopped and he was allowed to be himself again
Toriyama books like Vince sometimes
>>19773911Toriyama was a hackDumbing down Goku for new audiences in DB Super is the anime equivalent of Austin turning heel twice in the same year
>>19773911Enough about Resident Evil
Was daima a huge flop? I never really bothered with the stuff after actual end of the story
>>19775515>take popular talent>give him a dancing gimmickwhat the fuck was he thinking
>>19775213>I’M NOT FINISHED WITH YOUUUUU
>fan favorite is brought back to the company for one last run after years and years on the shelf>take away everything that made him popular in the first place and the run is among the worst in historyany other such cases?
>>19775624cell max wasn't even cell, nigga was fake razor ramon tier
>>19775515>>>19775515>>19775515>WWE takes beloved angle from WCW and botches it tenfold Daima in a nutshell
>>19775243No one gave a fuck about Gogeta prior to this. Vegito was still the more over fusion, especially since he was in Super again. Broly made Gogeta relevant again, and now more over.
>>19775523OG dragon ball was sovl and everything in Z is just turned into power levels and transformation slop and was toriyama was just phoning it in after cell
>high tier pro from the android fed>famous for his high intensity style>becomes a low blow merchantwho booked this shit?
>>19776565It was only one spot and he got a lot of heat or it. Made the match better desu.
>>19773939Naruto is basically irrelevant now. Narutards tried to meme it as a top show and failed. It's done.
>>19774645>Piccolo, Broly, GohanGoku refused to do the job to his own son in the last page of the manga, they'll never be at his level.
>>19775624Cell Max was not the original Cell.And the Super Hero movie was good. More comedy than action but it was enjoyable and Beast Gohan is awesome.
Does anyone still have the copypasta or just screenshot of DBZ kayfabe interview shitting on each other? That was pretty [spoiler]perfect[/spoiler]
How come the Z fed never had a womans division? All the women were relegated to managers and sure there was 18 but she was a novelty and fought in the mens divisions. She then got worked into a shoot and settled with the least over guy in the company and retired after a short run
>Cell Games PLE>Gohan and Cell main event >Goku inserts himself into the finish >Buu PLE>Gohan and Super Buu main event >Goku inserts himself into the finish Name a bigger mark for himself. You can’t.
>>19776623Blame the marks not Goku. Goku wanted to retire and Toriyama would have let him but the marks threw a bitchfit if Goku wasn't in the main even picture.
>Carnies literally every single living being in the world>Stopped Buu's heel turn until Buu picked up the schizo gimmick and became the monster heel>He somehow still ends up being the most beloved babyface of the worldHow did he do it lads
>>19776527>muh adventure>muh martial arts DBZ > og
>>19776637He’s a good promo. Can’t work a match without gimmicks though.
>>19776637Natural Ace aura. A single look at him and you know he's DIMES incarnate.
>>19776620Because womemes are anti-dimes
>>19776620chyna vibes
>>19774205K-Pop slop hunters are somehow even worse than Middling slayer a. i'm convinced that no one will try to dickride it if Korean fans are not more illiterate than weebs and can actually read who animates it
>>19773911To be fair if by get over you mean drawing dimes without looking at the overall quality then something like Demid slayer or even Cucksoyman are drawing dimes no matter people try to deny it. Agree with overall quality though but then again I can say the same thing to everything
>>19777714Chainsaw Man doesn't draw nearly as much as its braindead fans predicted it would. They hyped up the anime as the next big thing and it didn't even reach JJK levels of popularity.
>>19775341I still see plenty of merch from Naruto while almost none from Bleach. So I wouldn't put it that low.
>>19775013>Sorry but I’ve watched the new slop the zoomers think is a “banger” & pity them.This is unironically how Manhwa is to me and some other people. Korean fans keep trying to push their modern trash while some of us have already seen it's peak and downfall Before they even delve into Gookshit
>>19774795There's no catching up Toriyama only did 2 more arcs and jobbed before doing the Gohan arc
>>19777767You mean to tell me that you don't like 'My Office Worker Who is Very Handsome Falls Into a Gate Like From an MMORPG and Became the Strongest Wizard in Real Life'?
>>19774915>booker cools him off for the next 10 yearsKWAB
>>19777801I like "I had four good years before getting fucked over by my own director starring Munsu 2.0"
Who's the Jannetty?
>>19777852Zamasuetty look at him, he looks like fucking adam cole
>>19777876He had a great tag run though and refusing to drop the belt only to be fired by the boss personally was a nice end to the feud. Cut some great promos too.
>>19777852I can’t name half of these. First three, Broly, and >>19777876 are all
>>19777902Only one I don’t recognize is bottom left
>>19777893>Cut some great promos tooBeing racist is just cheap heat and Freiza pulled off being a racist heel better.
>>19777951Because he's from an OVA that only got a western release attached to a mediocre 360 game. He's pretty based though, slaps the shit out of the entire Saiyan stable for 30 mins before he gets deus ex machina'd
>>19774827yeah they should've been killed off, there was nothing left to do with renji once he turned face; orihime turning heel and joining aizen would've saved her career; chad sadly never got a clue. That being said rukia, ishida and ichigod hard mog team 7 any day of the week.
>>19777991Don't need a decent stable when your main guy can pop any arena in the world the second his entrance music drops>BABY NOW YOU FEEL LIKE NUMBER ONEEndless dimes
>>19774978Always thought he was cooler than his sister(male).
>>19774914The problem with putting the strap on someone like Broly is the insane shit you have to do to get it off of him without losing his heat.
>>19773939based bleach just coming out for the hulk pop doing little indie feds and going at its own pace
>>19774915his only over cause his movie is the only fucking good thing super has done
>>19777635KEK
>EE SEE DUB!>EE SEE DUB!>EE SEE DUB!
would a wrestling anime where the wrestling is still a work get over?
>>19775213you know how it is always pushing these blacks
>>19775029>Attack on Titan was goodbig emphasis on "was", that ending made isayama the business' biggest pussy, somehow worst than the prison school guy, though that was more of a booker never liking his roster to begin with
>>19778003>Don't need a decent stable when your main guy can pop any arena in the world the second his entrance music dropsAn entrance is all Ichigo had going for him. He was the most vanilla of the big three and couldn't work for shit. Cena at least had 5 moves of doom, Ichigo only ever had the one and it was never over with me.
>working for over 40 years and still going>mega over in the nordic terrotiories>solid midcarder in the roster of 1980-1989 jump
>>19774915Undefeated btw.
>>19777852>Super 17 isn't even in the picHim.
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Black people and Mexicans being obsessed with DBZ makes me want to disassociate from it
>>19778988>getting filtered by based brotherhood
>>19775102Sorry but using wrestling jargon outside of wrestling will always be fun
>>19778988>basing what you like on the tastes of otherskek you’re such a sad human being
>>19778762If they're not over in Japan or US then they don't matter
https://mega.nz/folder/28VFnBSA#f-aCUkb1iFImGgrtpaD2nQDragon Ball shoot interviews for those who want a good laugh.
What about Saint Seiya? The Ric Flair of shounen?>Highly influential even if it didn't get DBZ exposure>GOAT>Refuse to die
>>19779237Only over in Latin America.
>>19779277It's over the entire world except the burger territory. It's like soccer
Why One Piece never got over with /pw/?
>>19779306One Piece only got truly over with normies after the fucking live action.
>>19779306Too much womeme wrestling in this territory.
>>19779306I can only suffer through the same angle so many time. The Alabasta angle was great but it got tired the third time they did it and it lost me completely when they did it again but in Spain and Japan.
>>19779306One Piece is fine. Been reading it since 2006HxH is much more better though
>New hiring from the indies doesnt know the business, works stiff style only.>Injures dependable mid carder talent in debut match.What a green shitter.
Picollo vs Android 17 is a 5 star match
>>19779461Toriyama did it on purpose. He hated that Tien was still over even after his push was done.
>>19779306Oda books like Triple H, it takes months to have some progression in his storylines
>>19776637He never broke kayfebe.
>comedy jobber constantly outworks everyone>has top tier serious storylines>author says lol fuck that and goes back to one shot comedy chapters>jump is gonna release him>tells them to give him 3 months to finish the main storyline>it takes him 3 years, half the time they are just fucking around for the lulzUltimate carny
>>19776637His name is Hercule and I don't give a fuck how weebs feel about it.
>>19774652>Demon Slayer is fucking dogshit, and even then, its fans didn't like the movie. OK retard.>"The worldwide box office total for Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba the Movie: Mugen Train is over $512.7 million from more than 41 million tickets sold, making it the highest-grossing film of 2020 as well as the highest-grossing anime and Japanese film of all time."and it's movies, plural, and there's still a second part to infinity castle coming
What is the consensus on the new booker
>>19779890still too soon to judge
>>19779890New booker same old shit
>>19776248>No one gave a fuck about Gogeta prior to thislmao zoomer telling on himself>>19776565>android fedAndroid faction>>19776623>PLEThose are storylines, all that shit was on weekly TV. Also they were PPVs back then.>>19777852Hachiyack is so bad they had to reshoot the PPV.>>19779890He was only in wardrobe before, so if you don't like tons of different colored hair, that's your clue what he will do in the future.
>>19779813Second part is going to be the jannetty of the triology, third part will break even more records than part 1.
>>19779890Fuckopacohackocuckotacosuckoloco fucking sucks and no one reads his traced promotional toilet paper.
Why has nobody mentioned kagurabachi yet? It's quite literally the bron breakker of current wsj and it's gonna over big style once it's anime releases
The Goku and Piccolo tag team was based and Toriyama only put them together once.
>>19779813Always remember that /asp/ and /pw/ have (according to themselves) always been about the money and the miles and dime drawing. I don't like Nu Shonen either but some of them did exactly what /pw/ has been preaching for years
>>19781180I read three chapters of Kagurabachi and it was the most generic Shounen Jump Manga ever. I'm sure it will have it's fan but it's not going to be main event level.
