Everyone is fleeing the sinking ship, even when offered a lot more money to stay
>turning down generational wealth for a possible SaudiMania momentmark
>>19789460>even when offered a lot more money to stayWasn't this the exact same shit they pulled when Mariah May left? And once again it's only coming from the same people. Starting to think it's Tony cope he feeds them to make it seem like he isn't getting entirely cucked. They frame where this supposed number is in regard to other names but yet don't have an actual number to state. Sounds like bullshit to me
>>19789468Will AEW be around in 5 years? Probably not. Will WWE be around in 5 years? Yes
>>197894835 more years
FUCKING BUDDY GOD DAMN YOU
Horsepower Royce Keys is a low IQ E-drone!
>>19789489AEW only has 2 more years left on their 3-year deal.
>>19789460More money doesn't help you build up a name for yourself if you're on a show that nobody watches
>>19789460>higher than anyone but jerico's first year>less than daniel bryanwhat?
>>19789483It's actually more likely than not that professional wrestling in general will be gone. It's circling the comic book drain, smaller and smaller audience, self referential content, no longer discoverable, troon infestation, etc. Vince bought up all of wrestling and its history, and then sold it to jews who just see it as another write off.
>>19789517If that's what helps you cope with the death of AEW, godspeed my friend.
>>19789527I've never watched a single episode of AEW and couldn't care less about it. I hardly even watch wrestling in general. It's not part of your faggy console wars.
>>19789460People might actually know who he is if he goes to WWE so it makes sense to take a small term hit for a long term gain. AEWtists don’t know much about ambition beyond striving to be women.
>>19789527He's right. RAW is in about 200 million more homes and pulling in less than they were in America alone a few years ago. SmackDown can't pull a milly. Genuine names and draws are retiring. You think normies and casuals are sticking around for Seth Rollins and Sami Zayn in 5 years?
>>19789541So AEW has more than 2 years on their contract? Got a source on that bud?
>>19789517WWE is not the whole of wrestling, but you probably won't realize this until WWE finally dies.
>>19789460Why the fuck would any company give this talentless ape any contract?They'd get more views and interest if they hired sharkboy out of retirement because at least he had mic skills and could wrestle
>>19789562Survivor on CBS used to average 30 million viewers and now gets 5 million. Season 50 debuts next month
>>19789570plz understand, they need more blacks to push so blackrock doesn't get mad
>>19789595Survivor doesn't rely on people buying tickets and merch bro.
>>19789605How much revenue do you think comes from tickets and merch compared to media rights?
Unless Tony was planning on building around him as the top guy in the company, there is zero chance he was offered Jericho/Danielson/Punk/Okada money.
>>19789636Why do you only not believe Dave when it's something you don't like?
>>19789460In the next 5 years WWE will just be a coon containment fed. The zoo will be a perfect fit for that big nigger.
>>19789629Doesn't really matter when you start losing fans and casuals. Roman, Brock, Rey, Orton, Punk will be all gone soon. Cody probably won't be far behind. Do you honestly think there's anyone under 35 that has the potential to be as over as any of these guys? Trick isn't going to become a superstar going over geeks like Rollins and Damien Priest. He should have been the one to go over Cena and Bron should have beat Goldberg.
>>19789686As I told you earlier bro. Whatever helps you cope with the death of AEW. Godspeed my friend.
>>19789636You think jamal can count that high? He probably saw a piece of paper with more than 4 numbers on it and got confused.He has an agent for a reason
>>19789648Tony may be a retard, but this would be like giving Rusev Roman level money. I don’t think he’s THAT retarded.
>>19789697That wasn't me. I accept your concession though friend
>>19789715Tony gave Swerve an 8 figure contract
>>19789715He has a massive ego and hates the perception of wrestlers leaving his company for WWE.
>>19789728Sure it wasn't bud. Godspeed mate.
>>19789730Swerve is at least a top 5 guy in the company. Hobbes hadn’t been in the main event scene in his entire Time in the company.
>>19789763Even if that's true Swerve is a shitter that doesn't deserve an 6 figure contract. He has an 8 figure contract.
>>19789480Kek this part. There's never an actual number because they don't actually know. Nowhere that's reputable ever reports this either. It's always just Tony's burner accounts on twitter that feed the narrative
>>19789763>Swerve is at least a top 5 guy in the companyIs aew really in that bad of shape?
>>19789567I don't think the medium is going to survive on the back of hotdog promotions with 95 pound guys loudly calling their match in the ring and doing cirque du soleil shit. Even the meager business those places do is downstream from WWE.
>>19789517Entirely different situation. Comic books actively chased away its own audience on top of being dogshit in quality. Say what you want about WWE or AEW, but no one is trying to tell you're a bad person for being a wrestling fan. In fact, the rhetoric is the exact opposite.
>>19789798>Comic books actively chased away its own audience on top of being dogshit in qualitySo exactly the same situation.
>>1978977910 million over the course of 5 years is probably comparable to what most talent in WWE that are around his position make, even if he is carried by Nana.>>19789794Yes
>>19789814Only a handful of people in WWE are making $5 million a year like Swerve.
>>19789831How do you know he’s making 5 million a year?
>>19789849You're right he's probably making more.
>>19789856Tony had plenty of actual things you could shit on him and call him a retard for. You don’t have to make things up, too.
>>19789798>actively chased away its own audience on top of being dogshit in qualityhttps://youtu.be/-M2jL7tgqlo
>>19789807No, exactly the opposite, you dumb fuck. Say what you want about the quality of these shows, but AEW positions itself as "for the sickos" aka hardcore wrestling fans, because TK is a mark and genuinely believes that. WWE and TKO always talk about putting the "WWE Universe" aka the fans first, because they do ultimately want to make the most money possible. You can scream about TKO being run by kikes if you want, but this is the same company that let a UFC champion call out trannies for being mentally ill, with zero repercussions.Meanwhile, comic book industry goons would openly talk about how they want to completely replace their core demographic.
>>19789880First of all>STILL seething over this promo a decade laterkekSecond, this is Paul deflecting criticism for shitty booking. He didn't cut a promo saying that you're bad for being white and that he doesn't want white people watching, for example.
>>19789880>posts one promo from ten years ago when WWE was tarping off arenaskinda proves the point
>>19789900>more wwe vs aew slopYou people are braindead.
Even if Hobbs just ends up being a muscle man sidekick to Trick he'll still end up doing more than what he's doing in AEW. The more interesting thing is Hobbs was clearly an AEW loyalist at one point. Willing to do anything Tony asks. Did the commercials and stuff. So something must've exhausted him about AEW.
>>19790016That post isn't pitting AEW against WWE in any way, you mongoloid.
>>19790045>but AEWI'm talking about the only company that matters in the industry, the WWE, and total lack of cultural relevance and mainstream appeal, and you're prosecuting some gay faggot ass tranny war against GayEW. Nobody cares about AEW, not every post here is some faggot console war shit.
>>19789948If the point was that everyone behind the scenes of WWE hates the audience, scorns criticism, and routinely tells the audience to go away - which they've done in droves - then yeah, point proven.
>>19790078That wasn't the point though. So not really.
>>19789460>Tony made WWE overpay again and for a 35 year old charisma vacuum groid KEk Tony does it again
>>19790099>That wasn't the point thoughYeah, you were just being a retard. I was mocking you for it but that went over your head. Keep larping like everything is fine though.
>>19790068What the fuck are you schizoing on about?
>>19789483Exactly. If the rumors are true that Hobbs is secretly 40 years old, his career is winding down. He doesn't want to spend the last few years of his career as the guy in The Opps that eats the pins so Joe and Shibata don't have to.
>>19790112>Keep larping like everything is fine though.It is. WWE makes money hand over fist and AEW essentially has the backing of a billionaire's money.
>>19790114The death of wrestling, which is stated very plainly, which you've decided is "schizoing" because you're ESL and can't follow simple chains of logic, and have heard "schizo" used here on 4chan a lot and decided to cargo cult it into this argument because words are just magic incantations to you and don't have any inherent meaning. "Oh yeah, well something something tranny schizo jeet cope seethe based, take that!"You're a fucking moron, basically. Too stupid to follow or understand basic English, incapable of forming sentences without faggot meme language. You deserve to have your throat cut open for no other reason than you're that stupid.
>>19790041Sinking ship. Tony always prioritizing other guys ahead of him. Seemed he hit his ceiling there and it wasn't a particularly high one. Truthfully any wrestler with an open future shouldn't be looking at AEW right now. AEW is for people to go when they know WWE isn't an option or are leaving WWE. Those are the people Tony rewards and who trusts to invest into longterm. The Elite, MJF, Mox, Jericho, Mercedes, Toni, Swerve, Joe...
>the 40 year old black guy wanted to have a wm moment instead of financially securing himself I mean whatever, I don't really care
>>19790102>>Tony made WWE overpay again and for a 35 year old charisma vacuum groidAre you illiterate? From the sounds of it, AEW offered him MORE money than WWE and he turned it down to go with WWE's contract for less. There was no bidding war here. He turned down more money with AEW because he knows it's a sinking ship.
>>19790132I dunno, anon, you started screaming about a console war out of nowhere. You might need to work on your reading comprehension, perhaps.
>>19790130WWE makes money hand over fist by running a con job on various networks, each of which is disappointed in their performance, and primarily by appealing to a Saudi royal. Neither of these are sustainable long term, and when the bottom falls out it falls out for the entire idea of professional wrestling.
>>19790132Promo of the year contender
>>19790145Yeah they offered more but WWE had to come close to that massive amount, rEtard.
>>19790146No, I mentioned that you were a console warring faggot because you started posting console warring faggot shit, and you decided this was "out of nowhere" because you're not very good at reading or thinking.
>>19789796your perception of the smaller companies is completely inaccurate, and is likely based on watching PWG or ROH a decade ago. most of those 95-pound flippy shitters you're thinking of got signed by AEW or WWE. The business will survive the death of WWE, AEW, and TNA, even if it ends up having to rebuild from the territory level. I know that not everyone likes the same things I do, but dismissing every alternative with inaccurate generalizations only keeps you locked in with shows and companies that will never do anything but disappoint you.
>>19790160WWE put in a bid first. AEW puts in an even higher bid for him to stay. Hobbs went with the WWE contract for less money. AEW forcing WWE to "overpay" for Hobbs is just your schizo headcanon because you're desperately grasping at straws to pretend AEW isn't failing.
>>19790160Even Mariah May took a pay cut because just kike Hobbs she knows WWE will be here in 10 years. AEW won't be here in 5
>>197902595 more years
>>19790245>and is likely based on watching PWG or ROH a decade agoI've never watched either. It's based on going to a local high school gym show recently with my nephew and having gone in the 90s. WWE going under or being reduced to a disney land promotion will suck all the air out of the room until everyone is a ricky morton level shitter, obese old guys in their 70s who maybe used to draw but couldn't sell $50 today. The "industry" will be a youtube channel and a lot of poverty. It'll make Billy Corgan's NWA look prosperous. Even these mudshows primarily use "this guy used to be in WWE" as the main attraction. What happens when that dries up?
>>197902632 more years*
>>19789460The AEWtist is mad because he lost a black man he was lusting after.
>>19789460kek William Hobbington will be begging us to take him back within 2 years
>>19790259The pay cut talk is just Dave doing damage control for AEW. Notice how there's never an actual monetary figure mentioned? Just like there never was for May either. It's always some supposed astronomically huge offer. At the same time he somehow knows the exact number they signed to WWE for? Which again he never reports? Isn't that the information people would be paying for. If he has it, why doesn't he reprot it? People speculated Mariah was on an NXT contract for months and months because of what Dave said just for it to come out that she was on a main roster contract the entire time which I have to guess is worth more than her 2 year AEW contract was worth. The same will be the case for Hobbs
>>19790259Tony will be buying WWE within 5 years
>>19790399Why would it be damage control? This makes it look worse for AEW and Tony you imbecile
>>19790399e-drones are so fucking stupid lmao
>>19790151>anon saying that both companies appeal to fans in their own ways is "console warring"holy fuck get outside sometime
>>19789516dave is retarded
>>19790410>>19790416>>19790426Room temperature IQ at work here.
>>19790399>on a main roster contract >in NXT >WWE giving a 'main roster contract' to a mark who was desperate to be there Drones will believe anything LMAO
>>19789468>>19789483AEW is gonna be a youtube fed in a little over a year.
>>19790495The burden of proof falls on you, so prove what he said is wrong.
>>19789460>Everyone is fleeing the sinking ship>Nothing but mid to lower card shitters that WWE fumbles anyway Let me know when WWE successfully lures any of AEWs main event to upper midcard talent
>>19790508just 2 more weeks, for real this time
>>19790508>watchAEW >Honor Clubdon't they already have streaming services?
>>19790530Is that when Shockwave debuts or the return of Rampage?
>>19790542it's when your silo is finally getting foreclosed on and repossessed by the bank
>>19790552Oh so Rampage and Shockwave is never coming back and will remain cancelled. Got it
>>19790557>doesn't deny he lives in a silo>doesn't deny his parents committed mortgage fraud to acquire it and kick him out of the housesad!
>>19790571>Doesn't deny Rampage and Shockwave were cancelled like your legssad!
I haven't posted on this board since 2020 but clicking this thread and scrolling downit is literally the SAME POSTERS making the SAME POSTS from 6 years agowhat the fuck is wrong with you autistic console warrior faggots
>>19790571>My boogeyman lives in a silo
>>19790571Speaking of not denying something, you still haven't denied shopping Nick's daughter into wearing a bikini. I believe she's 9 years old, why did you do that Trevor?
>>19790606Did he really? Not the least bit surprised
>>19790606He went silent after this kek
>>19790286I'll tell you what happens after WWE and the other TVslop feds die out. when that happens, we will no longer have these extremely malevolent corporate faggots trying to sabotage everything else. we will no longer have 2-3 monopolistic entities standing in the way of a new boom period. the televised feds have become like those people who drive really slow in the center of the road. they won't speed up, and they also won't get the fuck out of the way, which forces everyone else to drive really slow as well. it's been like 25 years since the last real boom period, I think we've waited for these companies long enough. at this point, the 3 televised feds are doing nothing except sabotaging other companies who could potentially make wrestling big and relevant again. I think it is time to let someone else have a try. besides, the big 3 are currently running the whole business straight down the toilet anyway, so what do we have to lose?
>>19790657no one cares about gcw now, and they for sure won't care about gcw in the future joey
>>19790416Because it stops Tony from looking like he got completely cucked. It feeds into his fanbase that it's a mistake for these wrestlers to leave AEW. It fuels the 'mark contract' bullshit. It tries to paint the people leaving AEW as dumb and making a poor career choice. That's how it benefits AEW
>>19790703But the way it was reported makes him look more cucked, he's a money mark overpaying for talent and they still choose to leave
>>19790679lol you're just trying to piss me off now. but i have no reason to be mad because history is moving in my direction. also fuck GCW, they are irrelevant these days and do not matter at all. and don't even get me started on that faggot janela lol.
AEW is dead. Bury it.
>>19789460>please spend 4 more years here doing fuck all - the contractReality check to AEW fans. Some people, not all but some people on your shows roster are only there to collect money and have no actual future plans - those who actually want to wrestle and aren't prominently on the card, they don't necessarily want to stay just collect paychecks. After all, Tony also set the tone with Andrade, you can always come back on his dime if you feel bored in the big doubleu so why not leave.
>>19790789money and miles business
>>19789468>generational wealth That’s laying it on a little thick. If it was in line with Danielsons deal (which it probably wasn’t) that means 2.5 million a year. Let’s say it’s 4 years. That’s 10 million bucks. Take half of that for taxes right away. That’s 5 million minus living expenses, health insurance, travel costs and all the other things independent contractors have to deal with. We’re not talking about the Carnegie endowment here, it’s a few hundred grand a year. If WWE is giving him a million five a year plus all the creature comforts of signing with them it’s basically the same. It’s almost like hiring a great Agency and letting them take a percentage. You’ll be in a program with NBA Youngboy or whatever oogabooga zoomer celeb that Endeavor reps. Video game residuals. You’re plugged into Riyadh Season and the Saudi entertainment fund. If he turns Muslim they’ll give him a penthouse over there and a few wives. What do you get working with Tony? Some white claws, a text at 3am talking about how he sees a lot of the same understated brilliance of Chad Gaspard in his work and tickets to see the Jags get bounced out of the wild card round.
pounding liv like the king of a jungle while the whole locker room cheers is something that cant be measured in money
>>19790857>he thinks TKO is paying hobbs 1.5 milly a yearholy fucking kek
>>19789468>Tony offers you millions to stay and be his friend>He's shown that he will take you back if WWE doesnt work outHobbs loses nothing by trying out WWE
>>19790730I mean he's a cuck regardless. All he has to offer is money and talent are still leaving. The points I made are still true with the way Dave and Tony's favorite twitter accounts try and steer the narrative though. Let's not act like it doesn't work. They tried it as far back as with Jade. Blake Monroe could have been a case study to how easily it was to manipulate that narrative. Trying not to sound too LoPiccolo here kek but to this day you've got people running the pay cut line with her. All the while it's completely baseless yet I'm certain you'll see the same with Hobbs. The goal is to discredit the wrestlers leaving AEW
>>19790876Realistically what would they give him then? He’s either not going to NXT or he’ll be called up soon. Base salary for main roster is 400-500k. If it’s less than a million a year he doesn’t sign. There’s no accountant or advisor in the world that would tell you to turn down 2.5 or even 2 for 500k. Even if you think AEW will be gone in 5 years. Make hay while the sun shines is still a thing. My guess which is coming directly out of my asshole is somewhere between 1 and 1.5 it just doesn’t make any sense otherwise
>>19789460>the sinking shipIt do be like that
>>19790819Tony offers money but not the miles, that's the point. You literally have to go away to a real wrestling company and elevate yourself, if you want a significant pay raise that is. Or tell me, what did Chris Jericho do that warranted a 7 figure annual that at the lowest 3 6 figure players couldn't offer aside from the name Chris Jericho. I'll grant that gives a premiuum but what did the former WWE star and 'million viewer man' Chris Jericho offer that 3 other guys in tthe roster couldn't in terms of the tv show?
>>19790962Pretty simple. He is willing to take a pay cut because he's a mark.
So drainmaker is Tony or someone close to Tony right?
>>19789460Tony kept this guy around for years, did absolutely fuck all nothing with him and then only when he wants to leave does Tony offer him a ludicrous contract. Make it make sense
>>19789460I'm more disappointed they offered him actual money. I've never once watched and thought, "geez I can't wait to see what Hobbs is doing tonight." The truth is you could fire 3/4s of each wrestling company's roster and you'd still be in the same dwindling ratings spot. No one is a draw.
>>19789538>I hardly even watch wrestlingSo, why are you here? Genuine question.
>>19792990Asset Denial. It happens all the time in real sports. You look at something like the Brooklyn Nets last year, they had like 8 first round draft picks and they picked Europeans that are never going to even come over. It just denies other teams picks or the ability to improve their roster. Same as restricted free agency where you can offer a player you don’t even want a large contract and the team has to match it, chewing up their salary cap out of spite.It’s a form of gamesmanship. Also, proven assets going forward, even ones that aren’t draws, just solid guys who won’t embarrass themselves, they’re going to be a premium. The last batch of superstars has left. No one has figured out how to make new ones. We’re at the point where the headline of Wrestlemania 5 years from now could be a Paul brother vs Oba Femi or something and that’s the best case scenario.
>>19793199why can't we just all be in it for the love of the game and have to let money corrupt the purity of athletic competition brosi mean this semi-unironically
>>19789460We're supposed to believe this, but also supposed to believe that AEW hasn't already spent their new TV deal money and aren't right back to being unprofitable
>>19793223I think Tony does believe in a certain aesthetic purity when it comes to wrestling. its just a very niche idea of wrestling that only certain guys of a certain age are that excited about. Somewhere along the line he drank the Kool-Aid that he could be a direct competitor. I think he would have been much happier and put out a better product just buying ROH. It’s LARPing as Eric Bischoff abd trying to fight a ratings war that has really made him insane.
>>19793332You make a good point, and at this point the console warrior types are never gonna let him rest as a semi-distant #2 that AEW was destined to be. I mean I haven't watched their stuff in three years but I have no ill will against them 2bh.
>>19792261He got a pay raise to leave, little guy. It's only a pay cut if he was already making more at AEW than WWE was offering, which clearly isn't the case.
