What made them so grim?
>>19823811They need Reiwa Inoki
a really rich kid from the middle east bought all their toys and no they have no good toys left
>>19823811They need Showa Inoki
>>19823852They literally got him
>>19823811gedo's awful booking. I want to like NJPW and support them fully, I've kept my NJPWWORLD sub despite barely watching in months. however, other than WK, all the shows have been filled with rando tagslop which I truly hate. based on the shitty attendance I don't think I'm the only one who dislikes the booking. More than 50% of every card is rando tagslop and tony khan snatches up anybody who gets over.
when they became tonikan ass rape company
>>19823819We had him and we threw him in the garbage.
>>19824040>rando tagslop I only watch Japanese wrestling at this point and this is the thing I hate most. It feels like the backbone of both NJPW and Stardom and I'm shocked the latter is doing as well as it is given putting two multi-person teams in a ring together is lazy, not storytelling.I only watch because not watching means I won't be watching wrestling anymore. Guess I'm back at that point.
>>19824051We spit on him. We shat on his head. We put him in a gorilla suit. We stuffed him into the Bullet Club then we slam dunked Bullet Club into the toilet, pissed on it, and flushed over and over again.
>>19823811>What made them so grim?The creation of AEW and mishandling of the period coming out of COVID.
>>19824241It all went downhill after they dumped Meij because he had problems with NJPW and AEW working together.Dude was smart enough to guide NJPW through its biggest boom period. Dude was also smart enough to know that working with AEW would be a disaster.
>>19824299Meji literally almost lost them the TV they've had since 1972.
>>19823811>kick out Harold for the geek that had already fumbled NJPW's american expansion
>>19824070the only stuff I've really been enjoying lately are NWA, JCW, and CZW, but I still watch some NJPW because they still do some great stuff at times. but yeah, the problem is that the good stuff is buried in mountains of endless tagslop. the multi-man tags wouldn't be so bad if there were stories built around them, but they're always random as fuck. i'm always like "why is this match even happening? there's no reason for these people to be fighting, usually no real connection between the team members, and so it's just a huge messy spotfest with nothing on the line. I agree with you that it's lazy, and it's a shame to see such a great promotion dragged down by lazy booking.
>anons still riding meij’s dick after the kevin kelly podcast shoot
>>19824375I mostly watch it because it was the company that got me back into pro-wrestling after 15 years away. And I branched out into other Japanese companies. But pro-wrestling really feels like it's dying there.Yeah, there's still good matches in every company. And I suppose there will always be companies doing wrestling. But it doesn't feel like it will ever be a big deal again.
>>19824040>all the shows have been filled with rando tagslop which I truly hate. based on the shitty attendance I don't think I'm the only one who dislikes the booking.allegedly having a subscription for months while sounding like the usual newfag who started watching a month ago is really funny
>>19824451you're probably one of those "english teacher in japan" types who thinks he represents all japanese people when speaking to other americans.
>>19824519no i'm someone that's actually watches japanese wrestling knowing the match scheduling and why it's done
>>19824450I think it will be big again one day, but not until something big changes. in the current situation, all these companies are like crabs in a bucket keeping each other down.
>>19824040Holy shit. Tell you don't watch the shows with out telling me. Stop LARPING faggot.
>>19824541I know it's normal to do a lot of multi-man stuff on those "road to whatever" shows. but again, attendance has not been very good so maybe that's not what people want to see? I mean, they sold out the dome at WK with 3 good singles matches as the main attractions, which proves that they can still draw megadimes if the booking is right. I honestly don't understand why they wouldn't stop and reevaluate the way they book after that.
>>19824622>attendance has not been very good so maybe that's not what people want to see?Nothing so far this year is out of the ordinary outside of Tokyo Dome and your issue isn't with the small show formats at all.
GAYdo can't book lol. his booking is DOUKI.
>>19823811Looks like the bloom is already off the Tanahashi's retirement rose a month later as predicted by literally everyone except Bushidrones and Nu Jamals
>>19824649actually my issue is partly with the show format. gedo's booking literally puts me to sleep.
They lost all their big name talents without having those big name talents put over the younger generation. Now they're stuck with a bunch of young guys that nobody cares about that don't have any established stars to feud with to get themselves over.
>>19823811>No Inoki>No Fujinami>No Choshu>No Hashimoto>NO Chono>No Muto>Or anyone who is half their star power and talentEpitome of grim.
>>19824299Even Kevin Kelly who hates Tony Khan with every fiber of his being said Harold was a fucking idiot who almost cost NJPW their tv deal and asked questions like why would you have heels on the roster if they just get booed.
>>19823841>Pakistan>Middle EastLeast retarded E-Drone
>>19825020They have ZSJ who might be the most impressive talent in any company. His matches with Danielson, Kyle O'Reilly and Nige were all instant classics.
>>19825172
>>19825177Do you have some kind of a problem with what I said? Use your big boy words.
>>19824051this. SANADA could have been the next Inoki but GAYdo and bushichode fucked it up.
>>19825172he's just too gay
>>19825219Nah he's got a great 50's rockabilly aesthetic, he's tall, handsome, can cut a promo and is maybe the finest technical wrestler I've ever seen. Literally flawless in every category.
>>19825213To be fair if Sanada had what it takes to be the real Reiwa Inoki he would have grabbed Gedo by the balls and told him that he was going over, and Gedo would have said 'Yes, sir!' or Sanada would walk out the door.
>>19823974They got Funaki? Good for them
>>19824051>shingo was the member of LIJ most upset at sanada’s departure>sanada never got a feud with him, the feud he needed to solidify his reignfuck gedo and fuck that green shitter gabe too
>>19825269very good point, it's almost like gedo didn't want SANADA to get over. as soon as J5G started getting over, he broke it up.
>>19824051Redpill me on Sanada
>>19825290He just looked cool and felt classic and it feels like with a little more something he could have been great.
>>19825290he had a very believable style, serious Inoki energy, and a pretty good stable to back him up. then, for whatever reason, they just completely buried him and his stable. no idea why.
>grimposter has been run out of /njpw/ where everyone laughs at him so he has to make his own threads and bump them by himself/pw/ KWABOTY 2026 early favorite
>>19824299>through its biggest boom periodThe biggest boom period was the 90s thanks to Choshu, retard.
>>19824299Meij cultists are delusional and reek of newfagness
>>19824299>grimposting faggot reveals he knows nothing about NJPW yet againimagine thinking the Meij era was NJPW's biggest fucking boom period LOL
>>19824349>the geek that had already fumbled NJPW's american expansionWho? Kenny?
>all your big stars either retire or move to one of the big American companies>even though this has been steadily happening for years, no serious attempt is made to make any of the promising young stars into serious main even talents, outside of Tsuji>stick all of your young talents in a clusterfuck preshow rumble instead of showcasing them to your biggest audience in probably 2+ decadesIs this company run by literal morons?
>>19825459New Beginning in Osaka just sold out faggotThe Jap fans are all in on the new era. The only ones who aren't are gayew trannies that haven't watched since 2019 anyway, and butthurt joshifags like yourself who have a grudge against Bushiroad because you hate Stardom.
>>19823811Literally Tanahashi's push as a wrestler and Tanahashi as President right now
>>19825469>first guy to sell out the Tokyo Dome in 20 years for the company is the problem>all marquee shows since have been sell outsOh no Tanahashi has ruined everything! We should've stuck with Inoki-ism when he was drawing 9k at the Dome!
>>19825468I don't watch joshit, and filter all the joshit threads.
>>19825486Sure thing Fatlard L
>>19824040>>19824070>>19824375>tagslop
>>19825493Here's your proof, Jamal.
>>19825512Damn you spent 5 seconds shift clicking threads, cool story joshipedo
>>19824403>kevin kelly podcast shootQRD?
>>19825495sorry if some of us require halfway competent booking to enjoy a show. rando tagslop SUCKS and only the smarkiest of smarks would enjoy watching shows that are more than 50% pointless tagslop spotfests. gedo is a lazy homosexual dwarf and his beard looks like he stole nia jax's pubes and glued them to his damn face.
>>19825548first, Gedo hasn't been the booker in over 5 yearssecond, you watch WWE sloppa lmao nice reference queerthird, the tag matches are a function of Japanese wrestling's touring style which consist of a bunch of house shows leading up to a big marquee show. the house shows have the multi mans so the paying fans can see as many of their favorite wrestlers as they can fit onto a card. the main shows are not filled with multimans.you're a newfag and an e-drone and i would make fun of you more but it's just redundant at this point
>>19823811It's been many years since the post-ELITE departure and COVID-19 periods yet they're still booking like it's the post-ELITE departure and COVID-19 periods
>>19825522Just listen to the whole thinghttps://pocketcasts.com/podcast/strong-style-stories-with-kevin-kelly/b99d9f40-cd50-013e-7347-0acc26574db2/it-aint-about-the-money-why-kazuchika-okada-walked-away-from-new-japan-pro-wrestling/633c6e8d-05e0-4be4-aef2-3f77d04e002aIt's long but has tons of juicy insider details from behind the scenes back then you don't usually hear. Harold Meij & Michael Craven were a NIGHTMARE for all NJPW staff to deal with & their business partners too. They tried to tank NJPW's long standing historic TV deal with TV Asahi who own the entirety of the NJPW video library for one such example. Just listen to it all
>>19825468Damn, BT really is a draw. Shame about the rest of the roster.
>>19825615One of the top merch sellers right now is a Young Lion who hasn't even gone one excursion yet (Murashima)Yuto Ice cut one of the best promos in NJPW history at New Years DashThey've got a gaijin young lion in zane that is the best looking white guy NJPW has ever had contracted as fujo baitthe future is incredibly bright and they are stacked with young talent which is why they don't mind getting rid of older guys, even high profile ones like Hiromu and Naito
>>19825587Are you saying you need a new era? Because I know just the guy.
>>19825643Why do you keep commenting on the attractiveness of male wrestlers in this thread? You did it with Sabre earlier, too.
>>19825665No, I didn't. That was someone else because I think ZSJ has a weird lopsided dysgenic bong face, kek.But to answer your question: it's important in Japan when at least 70% of your audience are fujos who come to watch muscle men have emotional storylines with each other.
>>19825172If some British wanker if the best they have no wonder tana quit the business
>>19825665good looks are an essential factor in any career, and if you're gonna stop and nitpick what might be gay, pro wrestling isn't the hobby for you
>>19825683Tana quit the business because his joints are filled with sawdust
>>19825587hm its almost like the booking is not the problem; but things outside their control like a Nepo-goblin that literally has finances the size of international gdps both greater than and insulated from all the rest of wrestling affecting it, and the unique unheard of event of global oligarchs shutting down economies thus and especially hamstringing the normal and practical functioning of live entertainment events that dont run episodic tv who were stuck in an already hypochondriac land.
>>19823811They are facing the consequences of betraying Antonio Inoki.
sadly because Japanese Culture they can do nothing, just bow and accept their fortune.
>>19825968More like Inoki going batshit insane in the 2000s by making NJPW compete with Pride FC and K1.Lol.>>19825978Nah.I’ve been watching Sanseitō and Conservative Party of Japan.A lot of the Youth openly wants Foreigners gone and The Japanese Israeli Partnership ended.
>>19823811Nujamal is still a thing after the year 2019?
>>19823811Why do drones and trannies make fun of NJPW when NJPW is ten folds better than their houses of shits?
>>19823811KWAB
>>19826251Mental illness
>>19823811kek i still remember this logo as the KING OF SOI . Good times
>>19825665Fujoshi need hot niggas to keep their attention. That's why they keep beating on Oiwa, the most handsome new heavyweight in the company, to get sympathy on him.
>>19824299You fags overrate Harold too much
I understand why the joshi companies do endless tags and 6man tags, so uncle nobu can spend 15k yen on a portrait of his oshi and talk to her for 30 seconds and use the hand he "accidentally" touched her when taking the portait to jerk himself off that night. outside of tag leagues I really don't care for undercard tagslop in AJPW, NOAH and NJPW because it's just muh faction warz with no real purpose other than wrestlers wrestling because it's a wrestling show.
>>19827443what kills me is this, they have all these different factions and those multiman matches could be used to create stories of conflict between those factions. sometimes they do that, but usually it's just random people.
>>19826006good morning sir
>>19823811Tony Khan happened
>>19826099*click* always has been. Kenny kept it alive after realizing he had been delayed in changing the world by the villain tonikan, the malformed nepo-libtard soicodork, who tricked him by not revealing his colors before he contract tampered with the elite bout machine. Using the power of the Seven-Star Match, the cleaner sends his energy to broadcast out from conduit Golden Ibushi into japan, keeping the home of inoki alive until he can return and takeover again where he left off.
>>19824319B-But he was anti-AEW that makes him a hero
>>19825257Funaki is shoot better
>>19826032>Sanseitō and Conservative Party of Japan.Two pissant meme parties who will be squashed in this election. Stop reading gaijin media twitter
>>19830757you have to go back (to brazil)
There obsession with white boys and chasing the late 2010 American indie fans. No Bullet Club and Tony remains an a PWG fan who pretends to have seen a bunch of Liger matches instead of a guy who wants his own promotion.
>>19825449He said fumbled, not sabotaged
>>19831702You are mentally ill
>>19823811Gedo and Dick Togo booking.
>>19831841This isn't talked about enough, a lot of 90s\2000s heel guys that hung out with Yakuza have too much influence in today's wrestling, the face and heel dynamic in Japan is just as messed up as it is in the west.Everyone's character is either a corny face a cool heel or le crazy Jap and they all do flippy shit and they all sexualize themselves for perverts.It shouldn't be like this.
>>19832024It should
>>19832024>Yakuza>With a capital Y
>>19831841i honestly think gaydo and dick to-go are a couple fujos themselves
>>19831841More like Gaydo and Dick Togouphisass
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>>19832866kek
