If you had a warehouse, how would you use it to build your own fed? How would you market yours?
>>19845655It's probably in a poor neighborhood, so I would open a food bank and make people attend the show to get food. then you've got a tax-free charity business to use as a foundation for further growth.
>>19845655Bra and Panties royal rumble every Friday
>>19845655Have wrestlers pay me to have their matches recorded or even live in twitch
>>19845655I actually watched the first episode of this last night after putting it off all these years. Better than I expected it would be. Still has the same writing pitfalls of marks trying to explain the business in unnatural conversations, but they're not nearly as cringe some other shows/films that have tried it.
>>19845655Build a fed with homeless people, offer them $10 a match, winner gets a free sandwich afterWouldn't bother telling them it's fake but would encourage them to be as over-the-top as possible, homeless people are entertaining as fuck when they think there might be a sandwich in it for them
>>19845733>Still has the same writing pitfalls of marks trying to explain the business in unnatural conversationsIron claw was so bad with this
>>19845740Should add that, yeah, while it's a lot like bumfights I'll straight up present it as being fake to cover my assBut it'd be as real as fuck
>>19845740Sounds like bum fights
>>19845740my promotion across the street under the bridge would offer your talent fent percs for sports entertaining and poach all your best workerswe already signed Jackie Gayda
>>19845676>It's probably in a poor neighborhoodYeah I'm looking at Philly. Will undercut the ECW bingo hall
>>19845762Like I said, the difference between what we do and BumFights is what we do is "kayfabe", man. Wrestling's fake. I'm not *really* exploiting these poor homeless people and making them fight for sandwiches. They're actors in fact.Except they really are homeless and I'm totally exploiting the fuck out of them.>>19845790This is bullshit and you'll be hearing from my attorneys.
>>19845655It would be like ultimate surrender where ladies wrestle and the winner fucks the loser in victory but also with some backroom casting couch mixed in where I would have to interview them and have them beat me for the job. I'd lose on purpose for every single interview, of course.
>>19845655My goal is to hit the lottery and do something like this.Once you get the building, you really can just stream it on youtube and you have your fed. There's a lot of feds who already do this on youtube.Making money is the tough part. Every night of the week, you are competing against another promotion. People can only watch so much wrestling and people generally turn their nose up at smaller promotions. Money is also tight for everyone right not and most of the major networks/VOD services have wrestling already.
>>19845797do cheap shows with free food and you'll build a fanbase easily.
>>19845799Yeah I saw your reply after calling it bumfights. Gotcha
>>19845810>>19845797It's needs to be a good location. People won't go if there's nothing around it and no parking. No parking is fine if it's in the middle of things but then you need stuff around it
>>19845810you just made me think that admission should be 21+ only and you get a cup when you go in and there are a bunch of kegs and shit for everyone to party the whole shownot sure if that'd work out well long term though but I could see it becoming a popular thing to go to. Fans would be more into the show probably.
Basically just make it the new ECW but have homeless bums call each other the n-word and other slurs. Promote it on Instagram reels. The wrestling would just be them shooting on each other
>>19845797Philly is over saturated with schools and promotions. So that might be a little tough.For areas you want a building that can fit an 18x18 ring with adequate clearance on at least two of the side. You also want tall ceilings so wrestlers can use the top rope. Running out of a building that can host shows would save traveling and labor costs, but now you need a spot that can hold a few hundred people and has good parking.Most schools don't run open shows because they lack the space. They will do small shows for friends and family of the students, and then record them and put it on YouTube. Promotions that run larger shows, 200+ people, usually rent a ring and have an arrangement with a venue, usually booking out multiple dates months in advance.If you're trying to break in, go to shows and talk to the promoters. Sponsoring shows could also be good, as you will get a better idea of what you need to do logistically to make the shows happen.Marketing is difficult because indie wrestling is in the shits right now. WWE ran off so many fans over the past decades, then then and AEW snatched up most of the wrestlers worth watching. MLW does okay, GCW does okay on big shows, and CZW only draws like 50 people outside of their death match shows. Most other indies around Philly are attended by the same 30 or so ex-Chikara fans and friends/family of the wrestlers.I think to be successful you need to have great in-ring action, good looking wrestlers, and solid production so people can easily find footage online and actually watch the matches. I think there is a spot for a new promotion, but I'm not sure what the unique selling point would be that would capture the audience. I think you would have to appeal to the zoomer/twitch crowd and get then hooked. They already spend hours a day watching people play video games or talk at their computer. So doing something similar but with wrestling may draw well.
>>19845832Do byob and 'two free drinks with ticket'. depending on your location, this allows you to skirt local liquor laws and no one complains about garbage wine if its free>t. worked at a small live event venue
>>19845860>Philly is over saturated with schools and promotions.What promotions are in Philly right now?
>>19845871By Philly I mean an hour or so outside of it as well.>CZW>3LW>PPW>PPL>Labor of Love>LVAC>BPW>5XW>Royalty>New EraThose are just off the top of my head. Again not in Philly always, but the same fans usually travel to those shows.
>>19845834That already was ECW
>>19845860>Philly is over saturated with schools and promotions. So that might be a little toughYeah but if you owned the building wrestling would just be about having your own fed. Musical acts and liquor bingo would be the real money makers
I remember watching a wxw match that was a full blown death match with glass and syringes. In front of no fans in a storage unit. Wild.
>>19845832EC3 already does that at his indie shows. it works well, and a drunken audience is easier to please. cheapest way to get lots of people drunk is to make everclear hooch (kool-aid, everclear, some fruit and a little pineapple juice). don't book trannies or you'll chase the audience away.
>>19846298>No fans in a storage unit with two sweaty guysHoly gay
>>19846302cynchads we are so back
>>19846302>>19845832I would have almost no high spots and TLC only for main events if called for it. Is this viable for a small promotion or is retarded death match shit needed
>>19845655Book a really good show. Take notes from Kings Road stuff, classic Memphis, and CMLL. Focus on being entertaining, but also timeless. Stream it and make a streaming service for the archives. Crack open the cult playbook to indoctrinate fans. Look for a TV deal, but only accept if they'll let you keep the streaming service. Fashionable merch.
>>19845655I'd have 8 rules for the matches:1st rule: You are in control.2nd rule: YOU ARE IN CONTROL!3rd rule: Fights end when you tap out, get knocked out, can’t stand, or quit. Sanctioned “matches” can end via pin fall.4th rule: Standard “professional wrestling” rules apply for sanctioned “matches.” Chaos ensues in the PROJECT PIT.5th rule: No #Superkicks. No #TopeSuicidas. No #CanadianDestroyers.6th rule: The fight isn’t with your opponent. It is with yourself.7th rule: Fights will go on as long as they have too. Sanctioned “matches” HIT THEIR TIMES.8th rule: If you want to #ControlYourNarrative, you have to fight.
>>19846329oh I didn't realise it was that easy
Just because I had a warehouse doesn't mean I would want to run a fed even in hypothetical scenario
>>19846361Oh yeah? What else are you gonna do with a spare warehouse, smart guy?
>>19846336I mean it's not, and I didn't get in to talent management which is the biggest bitch of all, but not really something you can plan for in advanced. Most indie shows make their money booking smark bait so even trying to do something good is a little risky, but as a stationary product you can have continuity in a way that would not pay off for a travelling show.
Anyone interfering in a match (regular or no DQ) would get punished with a 10-on-1 handicap I Quit match in the post-show.Ladder matches would only have one ladder allowed and the ladder becoming unusable would make the match a draw.In triple threats, if two of the wrestlers were outside the ring, they could get counted out. In 4-ways 3 wrestlers could get counted out and so on.I'd fill my fed with autistic shit like that.
>>19845655Bum Fights: The Next Generation
>>19845832Just do everything Jim Cornette says
>>19846537>smw
>>19846329This is the dream
>>19846335Rule 1: Control Your Narrative
>>19846361Are you just gonna sell the warehouse?
>>19846317I think you have the right idea, the companies who exclusively do deathmatch stuff have fallen off hard because people get sick of it after awhile. hardcore stuff can be great and indie audiences love it, but yeah don't do it all the time.
>>19846427>In triple threats, if two of the wrestlers were outside the ring, they could get counted out. In 4-ways 3 wrestlers could get counted out and so onLmao so dumb
>>19846560You sound like a limpdick pussy who can't handle it
>>19846278That’s why I said the new ECW
>>19846381I don't know anything about running a wrestling show and I don't like wrestling enough to run one that loses me money
>>19846286Philly already has a ton of that for different niches, but another one could definitely succeed. Especially if the shows are affordable and the vibes are good.I always had the idea of doing an emo karaoke night and a wrestling show. Like have the wrestlers come out to early 2000's emo hits and have them sing with the crowd while they do their entrances. Then they do quick 5 minutes matches and the crowd could be right against the apron like PWG. Basically combining punk shows and wrestling with bar emo night karaoke
>>19846738Or maybe I just don't want to watch an entire card of nothing but deathmatches? I have no problem with people getting as hardcore as they want, but if you do it all the time it loses the effect. then people start doing crazier and crazier stunts trying to get noticed, and eventually something tragic happens.
>>19846738Deathmatch shitters who can't work get really boring fast. Almost all the death match draws still around actually know how to work
>>19846738>Already blaming the fans.You might have what it takes to make it in this industry.
>>19846992Gcw has done the emo night gimmick atleast twice actually
>>19847002>>19846999Not an argument
>>19847004Gcw fucking sucks
>>19847260Ok but I'm just saying it's been tryed by someone
>>19846970Yeah I'm not that Anon either. Just chiming in
>>19845733>>19845741This is why I couldn't get through Queen of Villains. That series had absolutely no idea how to blend the IRL/Kayfabe material and you'd have times where they tried to jump back and forth between them in the same segment and it just completely takes you out of the moment.Ironically, GLOW might be the only series to do it in a way that didn't come across as reading the wrestling jargon definitions page on Wikipedia.
>>19847344Non-wrestlers using wrestling terms irl is cringe and these things were written by non wrestlers
>>19845860based buisnessanonI go to my local fed, rodeo pro wrestling, the first three shows I went to nobody had a belt, guess they couldnt get enough sponsorship shekels. At one royal rumble they painted a brewery keg gold and said that was the top prize.One of the big sponsors is a used car dealership they have a 2011 corolla with 80k miles for 10k, is that a good deal.I need to replace my old car and thought about giving them the business
>>19847302Meant for >>19847273
>>19847414>At one royal rumble they painted a brewery keg gold and said that was the top prize.I popped
>>19847414>One of the big sponsors is a used car dealership they have a 2011 corolla with 80k miles for 10k, is that a good deal.That's a little pricey but the used market is retarded right now. I'd say if you plan on putting 300k miles in it and it doesn't have any problems you're good
>>19848061turns out I looked at carmax and could get way less miles for about the same, or a 2025 used honda for about 18k
>>19845655I wore my Duffy Wrestling League shirt to a Masked Mania lucha show last week. Meet Vampiro and the old fat La Parka. Nobody knew what the DWL was. Fucking casuals.
>>19848109Sounds about right, how much mileage on that 2025?
>>1984821020k ish
>>19846787just watch king of the streets bro
>>19848186>Nobody knew what the DWL wasNobody does fag
>>19845655Snake vs mongoose fights, or whatever combination of animals isn't illegal (yet). Except it's kayfabe and the animals are working. Worked cockfights, worked dogfights, it's all a work baby.
>>19849660>That cock can sell!
>>19849835>>19849660Tha black one would be the largest and strongest
Hire Izzy to be the face of the Women's Division. She legit fucking draws. Just won her third Championship last wknd.Whether she knows it or not, joining WWE/AEW would be a detriment to her career.
If /pw/ starts a wrestling federation, what would we call it
>>19850358All Tranny Wrestling
>>19845808The carnies would drain you so quick of so much of your money. They would have you paying 4x more than you would ever need to on talent and settup/promotion
>>19846427Singles matches involving 3 or more participants are elimination.Championships can change hands via count-out or disqualification."Unsanctioned" matches aren't recorded by the "production crew", but are streamed live onto Kick or Twitch by plants in the audience with high quality phones.
I made an arena in 2K19 based off of my old machine shop job. The apron was made of PVC sheet metal covers emblazoned with 'ALRO Steel' logos, and the canvas was just stapled cardboard. I dimmed the lights to the minimum and turned up the fog to simulate the dust. It was perfect.If I had a place like that, I wouldn't necessarily create my own fed, but I'd rent the venue out to promotions looking for a haphazard, grimy, and authentic working class ambiance for their deathmatches.
>>19850358>dusty voice/pw/eenie hut juniuh promotionth!
>>19850832I'm sure they would try, but if you don't give in....
>>19850358KWAB but what would it stand for?
>>19851586>Singles matches involving 3 or more participants are eliminationIt it'd just be a normal match with some dumb bullshit before it. Someone in the triple threat will look retarded
>>19847414Under a 100k miles for 10k? Honestly not bad, Toyotas last you forever. Just keep up on maintenance. My 2011 Camry has always gets me where I need to when I need to.
>>19852037>>19847414A basic jap car with 80k miles should be 5k kek
>>19852146I know but shit is crazy since Cash4Clunkers and the coof
>Mogs the ECW arenaWould be good for concerts too
>>19845655Hoodslam but with anime cosplayers.So basically Hoodslam.
>>19852402What if a tsunami hits it?
Ultimate Surrender but live. I'll have my heels cutting promos while pegging the faces.
>>19852966How would that happen?
>>19853126Rogue wave
>>19853126thinnest philly wrestling fan falls into the water
>>19853226>>19852402>>19846992>>19845910>>19845871Does Philly really have this many wrestling fans? There's no wrestling in my lower mid size city
>>19853625It's always been a hotbed. WWF and NWA both did great business here during the 80s, and the 90s/00s/10s speak for themselves
>>19853625It's denser than most cities so you can get people out to just walk over to matches
there’s an old tobacco warehouse in my home town that I’d like to buy and turn into a venue but A) I’m barely staying afloat financially anyways and B) while I think there’s enough people in my hometown to support the venue, I’m not sure if we could draw any one outside to the venue since there are bigger cities with more stuff within distance
>>19854443You're hometown is probably some shithole that's been dead since the factories closed. You're not gonna draw a dime it places people don't want to live
>>19854686Where you see failure, I see opportunity. As the great Eric Bischoff said during his TED Talk.This anon's town is broken and dead? Perfect. Let's just move in and take it over. 100 volunteers and it'll be like /pw/ In The Corn up in that bitch.How would you like to be Mayor of the newly coined:>Prowrestling City
>>19856484but isn't that basically "stealing land"?
>>19845655I'd rent it out to porn companies to make filthy nasty gangbang porn in the ring. When people pointed it out i'd say "Yeah, and? Sexwork is real work chud"
>>19856549It's called expansionism. And has been going on since before the world was even born. They were called the Q Collective. Lizard People like Bad Bunny. He needs to be scalped just like his concert tix. Tomahawk to the dome.
I wouldn't mind wrestling my /asp/ brothers/pw/ though? it would be a Rumble straight up and any anon who showed up in aew colors finna taste my steel! An Excalibur replica sword. Off with your tranny head!
>>19856484/biz/ has done this with the citadel. You need one Bitcoin to enter
>>19856900this. fuck AEW and death to all troons.
>>19856484let's fucking do it, peedub city up in this bitch
>>19857646>>19856484Meet me down by the river in peedub city
>>19857739
>>19857739>>19857747Best blowjobs in the world.
>>19858815Unsucked cocks are at an all time low there
>>19856484>Prowrestling Citydoes it Transform just like Autobot City? we need to set up booby traps at least
>>19860269There will be a lot of transforming going on but it will be from estrogen.
>>19860310Prowrestling City is going to be a christian town, brother. Every potential resident has to state as much on their Applications to move there. Freedom of Religion? No, you have the freedom to eat my fucking fist if you talk shit about Jesus.
>>19857631/biz/ is basically nWo in China where they pretend "Sunshine Boy" is Hulk fuckin Hogan
>>19860318Salam Alaikum, Jesus is indeed the Messiah and a great prophet.
>>19845655Hot chicks only doing Bra and Pantie matches, pudding matches, wrestling in oil, mud wrestling and other such matchesPPVs would be wildstrap-on on a pole match, full nudity, and other tantalizing gimmick matchesI'd bring back those lapsed fans
>>19860345As the Town Mayor, Sheriff, and volunteer Preacher, I say peace be with you. But tread carefully.
>>19860414my buddy works outta Tulsa for some gambino - he could be persuaded to run the organized crime racket
>>19856484Kino. I'd be in 100%. >>19860381I think those were a bigger deal then because porn was far, far less omnipresent like it is now. Sexuality has just exploded.
>>19850223No babes over 30 though. That destroys a fed from the inside.
>>19845655If I had the warehouse in pic related I would start a fed. i would make it a chinese only fed. chinese people in the crowd, chinese people in the stands, chinese talent, chinese crew. i would set up a streaming service in china. I would set up a betting site that goes along with the fed. i would market it by shilling it on chinese social media and advertisements. i would start collecting chinese women to do sexual chinese things to them. sometimes I would show up and run the show, otherwise I would let them handle it. they need to be reminded they're doing it for china and it would be dishonor to let china down. the real money is in the gambling site.
>>19845655I would have one but to put the bodies of Joshipedos