I was so into wwe just a year ago even, i was extremely excited for trick, bron and oba to start doing things on the main roster. this entire year has been not the most actively bad wwe has been, but the most boring grey sludge it has ever been. the weekly shows are boring, there are no storylines, there is too much reliance on nostalgia and part timers, the ads are way too intrusive. it genuinely feels like there is no creative team or booker. they just say uh you two will have a few matches. every fucking storyline twist is a guy in a hoodie. tko fucking killed wwe, this is pure corporate sludge.
WWE fucking sucks LAMO
>>19879928Boomerslop company. They need to let go of any wrestler over 40 (other than rey) and replace the entire creative team with TKO suits instead of geriatric dimeless fags
JCW Strangle-Mania is the same week and has potential to maybe top WrestleMania as the best show that week.
Time to dust off Taker for one more run, mmmhhhh.
Yep. Worst of all time era. The grey sludge shit swamp will continue sliding downhill
it's the worst era because it doesn't even provide cringekino or anything remotely entertaining. We've entered the Zombie WWE era. just a corpse being reanimated for money.
>>19879928WWE is the same exact shit as Madden or CoD or capeshit at this point. Just endless recycled bullshit with no passion behind it made exclusively to make corporate suits happy that their quarterly reports went up 8%.
>shitty product>no stars>ran by soulless evil corporate bastards>Hunter is still inserting himself into everything like a middle school girlI wonder why they're not selling tickets..
creative has been bad ever since cena's retirement run. everything creative have done has failed and been carried by the charisma from wrestlers, think of the roman vs punk promo that was all them not creative
>>19879928They drop so many storyline or stop start them and take huge breaks in between that by the time another story beat happens, it's been months and no one cares.Remember when Asuka was abusing Kairi and Iyo was a bit conflicted telling Kairi to leave her. The Kabukis were on every show in multiple segments for a few weeks. Then it just stopped because they had already set up the match at crown jewel and had no story until then so kabuki/rhiyos were barely on TV for a few weeks leading up to it.Then the kabukis lost but Rhea got injured. Iyo just completely disappeared because she no longer existed on her own. The Kabukis then called out the tag team champs and got a match... After losing a major tag match. They won them and then after a long month Rhea returns... For wargames. Which very quickly went from team Rhea v Team Asuka to can rhea coexist with Charlotte, and then to Becky v AJ.A few weeks later rhea beats Kairi in a random singles match. Then Asuka beats Rhea in singles match 2 weeks later. Then they have a tag title defence 3 weeks after that where they lose to Rhiyo.Asuka and Kairi are barely on TV, getting 30s segments at most for a few weeks. Then Kairi fucks Asuka at the rumble. It's been so many months since Asuka slapped Kairi and the crowd booed Asuka super loud. But that's ok they can follow this super late bit of plot progression with... 2 weeks of neither of them being on TV at all.They train there audience not to care about anything. No story matters, no buildup leads anywhere, no payoff is guaranteed. Even if the story is progressing "quickly" it amounts to 10mins a week which makes it the slowest show on TV.
>>19880181People give Paul a lot of shit, and a lot of it is deserved, especially for his retarded ego still desperately making himself the "main character" of WWE, but he also can't make people be dimes.He DOES actually try to push new people, and they fucking suck. Just in the past year he tried to get Jey, Solo, Sami, Kross, Rusev, Roxanne, Giulia, Raquel, Michin, over and that's just off the top of my head. It's not entirely his fault no one gives a shit about them (or in Jey's case hes just so fucking bad you can't make him "the guy")
>>19879940no titles for young men
WWE is fucking dire right now but Mania is still about two months away. For all of their problems with pricing, running Vegas again, Vegas itself having issues, all of creative's issues, ads, banning Vegas from showing Mania, they still have sold tens of thousands of tickets. There are plenty of retarded fans that will pay top dollar for the slop. It will probably sell out soon enough but WWE has coasted by for years on brand recognition. They nearly sell these shows out without anyone advertised and no matches announced.>>19880226The worst one to me was the Otis/Gable story. Otis was getting monster pops, Gable was getting heat as an asshole turning on his friends. Things were heading in a sensible direction... then nothing for months. Otis and Gable have a match but its way later, with no build and Otis taps and it just ends.
>>19880228the women you name don't have it or the crowd doesn't click with them but the men all got shat on by the iwc forcing wwe to stop pushing them
>>19880226>>19880250The booking is so bad sometimes I genuinely think there's some beancounter who sends in reports like "minutes viewed for X segment across all social media and show are 37% lower than median" and they're forced to drop it or some shit. Either that or Hunter is in the onset of early stage dementia
Old guys suck, too much women shit, too many boring shitters like Gunther, tag division is abysmal, midcard titles mean nothing and Paul clearly doesn't know what do with any of the young guys. Then you add in the soulless, sterile production and ads. Complete and utter dogshit from top to bottom. They need a complete reset, but instead everyone is just doing the same shit they've done forever. Paul Heyman has cut the same promo for a decade and got nobody over but WWE fans just like playing along and doing the chants and clapping their hands.
>>19880274Yeah I'm willing to give HHH some slack. Its not he's Vince, in control with majority shares so can never really be challenged. He is just the creative guy in a company owned by another, bigger company above them. He obviously gets a lot of the blame but he will have to do what TKO ask and demand.
just look at fatu and penta both started hot now no one gives a fuck about them KEK. wwe have no idea how to build new stars
>>19880294The worst thing about WWE under Vince was also the best thing, which is Vince just did whatever the fuck he wants. If one of his shareholders was bitching about quarterly returns or some shit he'd just tell them "well it's an up and down business pal goddamn haha"TKO sees that ticket sales are down 4% (because we raised prices 750%) and immediately starts an investor call where everyone says BRING THE FUCKING ROCK BACK
>>19880294it really feels like they are just booking what ever does numbers on tiktok since they want the speed type audience
>>19879928Got the full article from fightful?
>>19879928Me too bro, I absolutely loved last year's rumble. besides jey winning i thought it was close to perfect. Following that, I had like 6 months of a honeymoon period where I was loving WWE but now it has worn off.
There’s also been a bit of bad luck sprinkled in there too, lately.LOTTTTS of shoot injuries to key performers that I’m sure have wrecked the “Plan A” storylines and forced them to pivot to alternatives that were Plan B’s and C’s for a reason. - Bianca- Tiffany- Naomi- Now Chelsea- Dom- Fatu- Seth- Penta- Gable- Sheamus- JD- Now Bron BreakkerThose are some big names.
>>19880226>Remember when Asuka was abusing Kairi and Iyo was a bit conflicted telling Kairi to leave her. The Kabukis were on every show in multiple segments for a few weeks. Then it just stopped because they had already set up the match at crown jewel and had no story until then so kabuki/rhiyos were barely on TV for a few weeks leading up to it.>Then the kabukis lost but Rhea got injured. Iyo just completely disappeared because she no longer existed on her own. The Kabukis then called out the tag team champs and got a match... After losing a major tag match. They won them and then after a long month Rhea returns... For wargames. Which very quickly went from team Rhea v Team Asuka to can rhea coexist with Charlotte, and then to Becky v AJ.>A few weeks later rhea beats Kairi in a random singles match. Then Asuka beats Rhea in singles match 2 weeks later. Then they have a tag title defence 3 weeks after that where they lose to Rhiyo.>Asuka and Kairi are barely on TV, getting 30s segments at most for a few weeks. Then Kairi fucks Asuka at the rumble. It's been so many months since Asuka slapped Kairi and the crowd booed Asuka super loud. But that's ok they can follow this super late bit of plot progression with... 2 weeks of neither of them being on TV at all.This faggot simp really just wrote 2 long ass paragraphs about womeme bullshitWe aren't reading that lil tranny bro LMAOOOO
literally punk is the only reason worth watching the E for nowadays
do these people really think it's about anything other than the prices and running the same location as last year
>>19879928The problem is triple h!!! Why do we keep skirting around this?? He had the worst storylines when he was IN WWE!!! What the hell do you think has changed from him being a wrestler that gives you the idea he’s figured out to be interesting or compelling?? Stop blaming TKO, they don’t care about anything but ticket sales- they’re not demanding Hunter or creative push anyone or book certain storylines- just keep the fans engagedRock wanted manía in new Orleans but triple nose wanted vegas again and gor his wish- not tko’s fault! Triple H can’t make new storylines, can’t make new stars, and overall just cannot keep peoples attention for long- he SUCKS
>>19880655its a combination of a lot of factors
>>19880655punk vs roman is a bigger match than anything they did last wm
>>19880294Bulllshit man! Bullshit! Tko’s asking for the vision??? You fucking believe that??? Tko gave aj lee a fat ass contract to sit around and DO NOTHING?!!!STOP FUXKING GIVING HUNTER PASSES HE HAS COMPLETE CONTROL OVER ALL CREATIVE HIS FUCKING NAME IS IN THE EXECUTIVE PRODUCER CREDITS FOR EVERY SHOW!!!
>>19880628If we’re being serious…. These are literally the only reasons to watch WWE (either show). In no particular order:>Punk’s promos >THIS IS MY BRUTALITY entrance pop>Bouncy>Kaiser as El Grande>WHOA-OH entrance pop>Chelsea>Judgement Day backstage segments>Heyman insulting crowds>Logan Paul>Oba>Penta cero miedo entrance pop>Vaquer’s assFor me, that’s it in my path.
>>19880676>>19880656Stop badmouthing Triple H.Now.You have been warned.
>>19880628>>19880679I only care about Logan and Liv and Triple Paul buried Logan into being generic faction jobber #3 as soon as he signed his full time contract. If Liv wasn't getting pushed I would stop watching.
>creative is so bad rhea is being questioned fumble after fumble
>>19880703Liv is just “meh” in the ring and I can’t stand her when she’s solo on the mic. But she’s GREAT when other people are around and she can be “normal” playing off them. Her character is best when she can mog as the alpha in a group, but when she’s out there by herself, it just doesn’t work as well imo.Her bit with Vaq and Dom on Monday was great, and she was great in it…but only because she could riff with Dom. That’s why I said Judgment Day backstage segments are cool. They’ve put a good stable together (Finn, Dom, JD, Raq, Rox, Liv), and when they all just hang out and talk shit like normal people, it’s usually pretty solid character building that makes for an entertaining oasis before I’m forcefed more midcard tag team coconut yeetslop.
>>19880674John Cena's final WM when he had just turned heel after 20 years, very likely to win the record 17th world title against the new FOTC Cody, all wrapped up with a possible Rock appearance. No way Roman/Punk is bigger. It may well be their biggest match they currently can do but I doubt its bigger than last year's main event.
>>19880754She works better in a group because she's too small to be a legit physical threat, so if she's on her own she can't do many of her antics, or if she does she's forced to run away as soon as she gets challenged. When she's with Dom or Raquel she can be the hilarious cunt she is with no reservations and really take over promos or backstage segments.I like her and Logan because both of them just "get it" when it comes to pro wrestling. Like you watch a Becky Lynch promo and its so fucking godawful and fake. You can see and hear her brain is functioning on the wavelength of "This is Rebecca Quinn playing the wrestling character Becky Lynch, and this is what the wrestling character Becky Lynch would say and behave like right now." Liv and Logan do everything so natural and have so much charisma
>>19880585>Those are some big names.That's the grimmest part of all
wwe is fucked if roman or punk get injured
>>19880276If you think Gunther is boring you are literally not a wrestling fan.
>>19880585I do think that the amount of injuries they've had is largely to blame for some of the weirdness. I still overall really like WWE now. SmackDown has been excellent ever since the new year started. I think the big problem is tickets are just too expensive.
What goes up must come down
>>19880730She's lost everything that made her over.She's not a cocky mean goth dom muscle mommy forcing Dom to be her bf or even having bf drama with Liv.She's a skinny alt chick who is in a passionless queer bait relationship with someone who she's clearly just friends with. Kiss Iyo or drop the romance stuff. She also has no ass or tits anymore, and the real reason she was over was thirsty fans online, but now under every post or pic of hers people just say "she's so skinny now!!" And "anyone else think she's working too hard? She's lost so much weight!" When the casuals aren't into your look, you stop being a mega star, it's that simple.
>>19879953I wouldn't have said "potential", because I absolutely am excited for stranglemania and I refuse to watch WWE at all. as far as i'm concerned, wrestlemania ain't shit.
>>19880837Smarks hate Gunther just because they're insufferable contrarians. During his whole NXT: UK run, they were nonstop bitching about how he deserves to be on the main roster. Then as soon as he gets to the main roster, they're bitching about how he's too boring, or he's booked too strong, or he's not booked strong enough. They're just whining for the sake of whining.
>>19882012I think the problem is that for a long time, a big part of being a WWE fan was complaining about all the stuff you hate about WWE. Now that the show is pretty good overall, they can't stand it.
>>19879928You said fuck you to the American fans so the American fans say fuck you.You raised the prices entirely way too high fuck you.And not many people from other countrys want to travel to America right now because of ICE and Trump something the company clearly supports fuck you.You want to move wrestlemania to saudi arabia fuck you.Fuck all of wrestling entirely right now. AEW killed NJPW and unironically everyone is leaving there now. fuck you
>>19880605But you copied and greentexted it which is equally cringe
>>19882091True.. only to highlight how sad it was
>>19880837He's a charisma vaccuum
>>19880697Champas in the other fed now>hunter lost his biggest snitchGrim
>>19880226Bravo to a decent summary. LA Knight's story and same with Jey are almost as sad, but tbf Jey fucked Jey. LA Knight (Yeah~!) might have been a little punished for MitB, but mostly they dropped him yet again after Punk kept trying to bury him on the way to another boring ass Punk Belt run. AJ had some great recent matches, not with Punk. No one has a great one with Punk
>>19882099I mean if it was short I guess but you went out of your way to even structure it so its an easier read.One could say you did them a favor.Another could say its just samefag restructuring their post because they realized that they wrote a giant wall of mush.One could say many thingsTl;dr; cringe behavior
>>19880250At least Alpha Academy is back after building up Maxxine and the boys being stuck on Main Event all the time. They have become the modern day Bushwhackers in my eyes. Doesn't matter how much they win or lose, I just like watching them work.
>>19882125Oh, I see what youre saying. No, all I did was highlight the text and click reply. I dont know if you know this but that automatically greentexts the highlighted text for you.
>>19882166I don't or choose not to believe you
>>19882176>I don't or choose not to believe youI'm not lying, I just did it again. It makes greentexting a lot easier, try it! :)
>>19882176All you do is highlight text and then click the number of the post to open the reply box and the greentext is automatically addrd
>>19881990yeah the casuals are starting to notice rhea is looking weird lately
>>19882180DON'T TELL ME HOW TO LIVE MY LIFE
>>19882176BasedI wrote the original, not that solo anon. Because the women are better, they're hotter, they're more distinct. But enjoy your bangers from a bunch of old men.Asuka may be 44 but at least she looks young and hot.>>19882122Thank you, brother.I was a big fan of LA in 2021 or whenever he was interrupting Roman and talking shit like he meant it. Then he lost everything all the time and you can't trash talk and lose. So now he has no urgency or reasons, he's just kind of mad sometimes at some people for no real reason. Revenge, I guess, but they're not personal fueds, they're obstacles on the way to a title. It's like if in Breaking Bad, Walt stops going after Gus to go after someone who drove into his car for 3 seasons, and then never gets back to going after Gus. No focus, no emotional investment.
>>19882189.
>>19882186When's the last time she posted a thirst pic? A long time ago because she can't anymore now she looks like Shotzi, except with no tits
>>19882205>Fake tough guy women lover but actually child lover pedo faggot gif
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>>19880585>key performers>that list
>>19882554wwe has zero new stars KWAB
>>19882579Rey Mysterio's son and Rick Steiner's son and Rikishi's sons are all really big stars actually!!!
>>19879928>Put Punk in the main event>Company stops being hotLmao it's 2011-2014 all over again
Haitch being utterly unable to build new stars or pivot even slightly is really becoming an issue. He seen Finn get over big as a face and decided "Nope need to have him be a heel to put Punk over again" even though he could have easily put Bronson Reed or something in his place and have Finn finally turn on Judgment Day
