If Brock was good at UFC he wouldnt have come back to WWE
>>19895761He lost half his stomach bro. He was quite literally half the man he was before. Weaker, slower, sloppier. No way he could recover. And he didn't take the sport seriously enjoy anyway. Roy Jones Sr told him to work on his stand-up game and Brock brushed him off. Going back to pro wrestling was a no-brainer considering he could get better healthcare treatment and do less for more money. Brock should have Wen straight into MMA as soon as he left WWE. Maybe he would have been more successful for longer.
>>19895797This, but also his striking was really bad
>>19895761>money>miles
>>19895761being good at ufc is making a million dollars and getting out of there before you're functionally retarded
UFC is unironically a terrible place to work. Did Brock make a lot of money? Absolutely, but the company was beginning to enter it's pre-TKO era where Dana was becoming more of a JEW. Brock would be forced to wear none of his sponsors and wear shitty Rebook in just a few years if he kept fighting, which resulted in a MASSIVE pay reduction across the board for every fighter in the league. He was a great wrestler but not a great overall fighter, so by the Werdum era kicked in Brock would've been a embarrassing roll out at some point. Notice how they kinda rigged his final UFC fight by putting him with Mark Hunt, who's ESPECIALLY known to being weak to wrestlers. I doubt Dana could've done that for every fight.
>>19895761GOAT
>>19895761his fight vs carwin is fucking awesome
His UFC run is overrated as fuck>embarassing loss to Mir>win against who>win against an old and semi retired Couture>win against Mir in a worked fight>win against Shane Carwin, another who>loss to Cain and OvereemHe knew DC was too much for him and went back crawling to fake fighting
>>19897859money and miles, mark
yes he would'veyou dont understand Brock's entire personalityhe wants tons of money for minimum effortWWE gave him that in UFC, he'd have to have been constantly training, constantly doing press tours, constantly working out WHILE ALSO training with teams of people while learning his opponents, constantly worried that if he losses his pull gets worse, constantly worried about PPV and putting up with cunt like Dana etcmaximum stress with less moneyin WWE he doesnt have to do shit but appear 10 times a year, only wrestling 3-4 times max for few minutes, doesnt even have to talk and he makes 10 times the money for it they were paying him millions of dollars to just sit at home for years and then giving him millions more per appearance all stress free UFC needed Brock more than he needed UFC because they can never have reliable heavyweight drawHW is most important divison because all normies who dont even watch the sport mostly care about "who is actually the strongest" (which is whoever is the HW champ) and that company can never get a hold of that division, its a fucking messUFC would've made more money off Brock being good at MMA than Brock would've made there over going to WWE
Brock wasn’t the best fighter, he was just so much of a freak of nature that he was able to overpower a lot of the guys back then. Then he had the diverticulitis andIt was all downhill from there.
>>19897903He had personality, his afterfight promo on Bud Light is still kino
>>19897906He definitely had charisma when compared to the average UFC guy, but you could also tell that he hated getting hit for real.
Brock was the last big draw in UFC
>>19897923Nah, that’s McGregor.
>>19897929come on, now
>>19897955Is he a manlet? Sure. But he headlined the 6 highest selling ufc cards of all time. Plus him vs Mayweather had almost 4.5 million buys.
Brock was pretty fascinating to watch and his fights were always exciting. Sheer strength and freak athleticism can steam roll even someone with great technique. We’ll never know how much further he might have gone if he didn’t get diverticulitis. But as others said he never worked much on his striking and getting hit rattled him pretty easily.
>>19897955Holy fucking retard. McGregor was undeniably a gigantic draw. No one cares about your height fetish outside of this board.
>>19897859>worked the vegas territorybased Bork
>>19895761He got ill and also would probably have taken a lot of years off his life if he kept going, plus you only get the big money for staying at the top. Going back to WWE where he's mega over, gets mostly booked in safe squash matches and gets millions of dollars to turn up less than ten times a year and only wrestle five or six is a no-brainer.
>>19896701this, you can make more money in wrestling than UFC and it's not even close
>>19897859I never even realised the Couture thing before. So Lesnar was 31 and at his physical peak and Couture was a 45 and 40lbs less. He was the champ though so not like they could give Brock a bigger fight.
UFC pays its guys absolute dogshit nothing. Long tenured WWE midcarders like Beeg and Ziggler were making like double or triple what UFC champions made. Brock and other super exceptional draws like Conor were exceptions but you need to constantly win and pull huge PPV point hauls to make that happen. Brock was right to come back to wrestling. Taking the legitimacy of being a UFC champion into WWE let him command a massive salary on a paltry number of appearances, way more than he would have made being a hit or miss former WWE star fighting cans in UFC. Brock could have gatekept the top 15 for a few years just outwrestling prospects but why do that when there's more money and women to pee on and fewer concussions working for Vince?
>>19895761He was very good for having basically no background in mma disciplines.
>>19898147I'm no expert so I can only go by what others say. If not for his WWE star power and crossing over to UFC when it was hot, allowing them to play into the "watch this fake tough guy get beat by real fighters", Brock would not have been the draw he was for them. He'd be paid less and have less drawing power, plus his record wasn't dominant.
>>19898147Also, Brock could also just do one of these clown celebrity boxing matches, fight Jake Paul, and make like 100 million dollars or something whenever he wants
>>19895761he was good he just had diverticulitis and could barely stand up let alone fight
>>19896562He was never taught to throw a punch. Literally never needed to learn. It’s hard to put into context how crazy it is that Brock became UFC Heayweight champ. I don’t think people understand. Even with how weak the division was then and Fedor never coming over. For him to decide to take up MMA after he was 30 and immediately be able to do it at the highest level is almost unimaginable. I’m trying to think of a scenario that’s imaginable without hyperbole. It would be like if Steph Curry retired from Basketball and became a gold medal Olympic Archer on the premise that he has great aim. Brock was a freak of nature physical specimen, he almost made the Vikings and he never played a down of football at any point in his life. The also had half a decade of WWE wear and tear plus a seriously bad automotive accident that broke his pelvis. Tore his knee up and did some other harm. He also won the crowd over. People wanted him to fail and the crowd was not behind him. He literally won them over like Gladiator, just with his look and his promoing skill which was never his strength.
>>19898130couture had just beaten tim sylvia for the best the HW division was totally fucked after arlovski/tim traded the beltit was still a good win
>>19897859Heath Herring was in Pride. He's a gatekeeper and Brock controlled him with superior wrestling and size. And Carwin wasn't washed yet for their fight. But yeah, Cain showed that his stand up game was terrible. Overoid fought half a man Brock and kneed him in the belly. Nigga.
