Hey guys, I have a really good idea. You know about Chad Gable, Ludwig Kaiser, Tyler Bate, & Pete Dunne? Yeah, those 4 guys, all of those guys are so good. They're so accomplished as wrestlers, & they're so charismatic, & their move encyclopedias are so healthy & diverse, & they bleed talent, & they're so easy to take seriously in ring, & if we were to get behind them, we'd be able to squeeze untold months' worth of really well-written television out of them? Yeah, those guys, let's take those guys, & saddle them with a completely one-dimensional, unfunny, impossible-to-take-seriously bad comedy gimmick that is exactly as vapid & silly as every other "hamming it up" comedy gimmick that you can possibly name. Yeah, man, I think that's a great idea. 4 amazing wrestlers that could easy be leading the division by example......relegated to Comedy Hell (TM). Let's not even credit them by their proper ring names when we send them out, so that the casual viewer won't even be informed of whom they even are. This unit has stifled all 4 people involved, created exactly zero good stories, & whenever anybody is wrestling as an Americano, it's right to practicing bass or playing chess for me. The brilliance of Hunter... exactly as dumb as Vince was, at times. One of the Americanos defeating Fenix, Octagon & Dragon Lee on AAA... there are no words.
>>19906638love this zesty boy
>>19906645Hard to imagine this is the guy behind the mask
>>19906656four you
No one has said this about Pete Dunne.
>>19906638Bate & Dunne have never been over with anyone but nxt smarks. Gable can get any gimmick over and Kaiser would have been future endeavored without the gimmick. It's elevated everyone bro.
I strongly believe the Los Americanos gimmick kept Dunne and Bate from being fired last year. Ludwig probably could've held on for three more years or so but he might have a job for life now.
>>19906667Kaiser would’ve been let go eventually. Get for lucky as fuck with EGA
>>19906638>& they're so charismaticGable and Kaiser both have solid but not great charisma. Bate and Dunne are black holes.>they bleed talentGable and Kaiser do.>they're so easy to take seriously in ringGable and Kaiser yes. The other two midgets not so much.>4 amazing wrestlers that could easy be leading the division by examplelol>relegated to Comedy Hell (TM)>created exactly zero good storiesThis Americano shit is always by far some of the best stuff on the show and not just on RAW, on AAA, too. Gable is a face in America, heel in Mexico while Kaiser is a heel in America, super face in Mexico. Shit's amazingLet's face it Bate and Dunne are incredibly fucking lucky that they gave them those gimmicks. Gable and Kaiser kill it, too.This goofy shit is a win win for everyone involved.>Fenix, Octagon & Dragon Lee on AAAAre you fucking brown? Fuck all three of those dimeless shitters.Wtf do you even want instead? heatless bangerinos?
>>19906638Wrestling is about gimmicks not moves you stupid fucking mark
>>19906718>Gable and Kaiser both have solid but not great charismaGable can get any gimmick and storyline over, Kaiser is about on par with Dunne and the other guy outside of the EGA gimmick, in other words he’s a dimeless euro shitter>they're so easy to take seriously in ringNo one takes Europeans seriously, especially when you prounce around like a homosexual like Kaiser does>This goofy shit is a win win for everyone involved.True
>>19906721Europeans don’t have gimmicks tho. They all look like the default tutorial character in the 2k games
>>19906667>Bate & Dunne have never been over with anyone but nxt smarkshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NULTU8uV4w&
EGA should be booked the same way on RAW as he is in AAA. Wtf are they doing?
>>19906767>they were over in their penceless home countrywhoa wow
>>19906780You're stupid.
>>19906789Turn your monitor on and explain to me why it is a good idea for him to be booked at completely different power levels when he's currently a top guy in AAA as if none of their fans can possibly see it
>>19906718 Agreed, though I'm slowly warming up to Trannythriller Bate - not necessarily as the iteration of Bravo that he is right now since it's just fucking lame WITH Dunne. The promos are the worst part of Bate, easily. Such garbage ham: "we are mexican, orale, local city sucks"- how this gets past the race-card checkpoint is beyond me, Ludvig gets a pass because there is a aura of respect to the gimmick, Bate's just being a racist stereotype, everything twitter whined about with Gable in the first place. Still even though he overdoes the dances and bravado, there's something there that shows he got some balls. I could easily see him lose the mask and be some variant of "Tyler Bravo Machismo" new version of him and that getting over. Like a pint sized ladies man type of gimmick. It's still better than "big strong boy" shit. Dunne though, Dunne looks like a rat, moves like one, is one and should wear a rat mask. There's nothing that sells him as a luchador not even as a guy pretending to be one. He's useless in this Grande Americano saga.
>>19906638Gable can get anything over, which is why there are now 3 factions on fucking RAW which relied on him and to some extent kurt angleKaiser was trapped in Gunther's shadow, being El Grande has freed himThe other two weren't over in any capacity. Bate got injured and Dunne was pivoting to producing. Bate came back and ended up doing house shows more than anything.You have to go to a house show and some live events to understand how WWE really works. Also Penta shouldn't be doing most lucha shit because it devalues him.
>>19906803He’s always sucked. That’s why he has henchmen and uses a metal plate
>>19906767Britbong indie crowd is just nxt smark crowd + singing.
>>19906638nice job none of them are top wrestlers gonna say jd is next just cause hes white?
>>19906638>unknown temp jobbers should win!damn you are brilliant
>>19906670he would be a jobber in smackdown, thanks to americano he appears in raw
>>19906638>effort posting about people nobody with a mortgage has ever heard ofYou and your ilk are why wrestling is terrible these days
>>19906927JD can wrestle, talk and act and doesn't just go out and dance and do cartwheels, plus he is liked by the vets and has the gigadimes giant cranium. He's never been in a single dull match or segment so they know they can just send him out to do anything and it'll be okay.
>>19906638You forgot one little detail. All four were negative dimes for years. Americano fills arenas in Mexico with his announcement aloneSo fuck off
>>19906993Nobody cares about him, he isn't over he's just a generic jobber who got lucky to have a regular TV time spot
>>19906638Gable and Kaiser made El Grande Americano work and created a new legend in WWE that people like and react to. This alone should prove they aren't being wasted. Gable found a way to use WWE's obsession with AI to further his character. How a room of writers can't think of something like that but he can shows how amazing it is.And don't pretend this shit wasn't done in other eras. If this was AE/RA it would be Kurt Angle under the mask
>>19906667/thread
>>19907022He isn't the main event but fans care about him as a regular cast member of the show that they appreciate. His matches and backstage segments etc. go over well and the overall response is very positive. He's good at his role, especially considering he never hams it up as le little engine that could and never overpowers bigger opponents or goes too into the deep end of choreography spam and never gets sanctimonious or comes out and says 'I AM LE BEST PROFESSIONAL WRESTLER AND I LOVE LE WRESTLING' like so many others do
BRO nobody normal knows those other than gable who was a supreme jobber and kaiserthe other 2 actually ruin the whole thing, they mexican talk is offensive and not funny at all.only dumbass mexicans say people have no culture
>>19906667They tried pushing Bate & Dunne as a team. They gave them vignettes and a ppv title match and a feud with Judgment Day when they were the top heel group. The crowd sat on their hands whenever they came out. Now smarks pretend like two future Wrestlemania main eventers are being wasted.