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prev >>19897226

watch:
CMLL (youtube.com/@VideosOficialesCMLL)
>Martes de Arena México (Tuesday @ 7:30pm) ($8.99 tier)
>CMLL Informa (Wednesday @ 4:00pm) (Free)*
>Viernes Espectacular (Friday @ 8:30pm) ($24.99 tier)
>Sábado de Arena Coliseo (Saturday @ 7:30pm) ($34.99 tier)

AAA (youtube.com/@luchalibreaaatv)
>Lucha Libre AAA (Saturday @ 9:00pm EST) (Free)

IWRG (youtube.com/@iwrgtv)
>Revolucionando (Monday @ 5:00pm) (Free)*
>Thursday Night Wrestling (Thursday @ 8:15pm) (Free)
>Súper Domingo IWRG (Sunday @ 4:45pm) (Free)
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Cerebro Negro Jr has been good in this one
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>>19910655
I've enjoyed this whole match so far even though i don't really know most of these guys
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>>19910663
Yeah everyone totally showing out trying to be the guy who stands out it's great
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bump
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faby
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What’s stopping AAA and CMLL from collaborating
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>>19910793
You're not going to mix a gourmet dish (CMLL) with dog poop (AAA)
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>>19910655
Cerebro Negro Jr, comes from IWRG, It's interesting to see him now trying to achieve something in CMLL.
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Is Dragongate "lucha"?
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>>19910835
His dad is awesome, is he as good or have potential to be as good?
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We need this but with
>Hide CMLL schizo threads
>Ignore CMLL schizo posts
>Do NOT respond to the CMLL schizo poster
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>>19910808
Pero sin payasos no hay fiesta
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>>19910841
Nope, only when 2 mexicans, or 2 non-mexicans trained in lucha style, luchan there in the lucha libre style you'd be watching lucha in Dragon Gate.
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>>19910793
cmll is still mad a bunch of guys quit in the 90s to start aaa
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>>19910793
No one cares enough about CMLL, and the CMLL execs are too proud to collab with the fed that's mogging them.
Also gAyEW
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Great match, would recommend. Even without knowing most of the guys it was super fun.
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>>19910841
I'd say discussion about Mante, Dragon Bane, Mecha Wolf and any other luchadors in japan is ok imo
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>>19910793
The Lutheroth mafia has their heads high above on their asses, they think lucha is some sacred serious sport and AAA goes against all that.
>CMLL proceeds to feed dog food to their biggest and most popular faction ever
>CMLL also proceeds to debut a dinosaur guy who can only speak BLRGHH BLRGHH BLRGHH
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>>19910846
Surely, at one of the IWRG tryouts where Cerebro Negro Sr. was a coach, everyone agreed he was the best and a great mentor. He might not have much charisma, but he's a real crack.
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>>19910793
They did it once but CMLL is still mad that Triple a stole a bunch of their main talent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1qDNR0yyVo
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>>19910871
>>19910858
See? This is what this bastard wants. To come here and talk lies and bullshit without anyone kicking his ass...
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>>19910864
This was the qualifying match right? So when’s the main event
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>>19910641
Kemalito is Death Riders affilaite
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>>19910897
!
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>>19910864
For me, its Konjuro
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>>19910883
You don't even know the story. AAA didn't steal any talent from CMLL because AAA didn't exist yet. Antonio Peña worked for CMLL, and he was the one who took many luchadores from CMLL to form AAA because AAA didn't exist at the time.

And that crossover where CMLL faced AAA was Televisa's idea. Televisa is the TV network that controlled both companies at that time and forced them to collaborate on a Father's Day event.

If you think CMLL would be happy about what Antonio Peña did, you're an idiot, especially if you think CMLL is the villain of the story here because of it.

>I rape your mother
>you don't let me be near her
>I play the victim role and say you're just mad and that you're bad for not letting me rape your mother

Stupid idiot...
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gracias y hasta la proximo bros I'm going to bed
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Is this taped? https://youtu.be/xTkgkk5iaXE?si=WqbltsYHeN1AH_ME
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>>19910951
i think this was from sunday
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>>19910927
>Pay pennies to your talent
>Get mad at your talent that they made a new company called Triple A
>They invite more of your top tier talent basically stealing it
Thank you for confirming CMLL was the evil all along, and that Triple A indeed stole their talent, but hey Triple A was born from that so they did something good.
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>>19911061
It's curious that you say that, since no luchador from """AAA""" is currently signed to WWE except for Vikingo (and Hiedra and Iguana with Phillip), and since they don't have a fixed salary either, they have to keep looking for work outside the company because neither """AAA""" (Phillip) nor WWE pays them exclusivity andmany of them are prohibited from working in the United States which is where they used to work a lot as independents before absorption.

You want to talk about CMLL over 30 years ago pretending to let itself be sabotaged, but you don't seem to want to talk about how WWE really treats mexican luchadores in """AAA""" and how they aren't willing to invest a single penny in that artificially living corpse.

How does it feel to be defending the real fucking evil company and find out that no mexican luchador (except for the 3 mentioned) has actually receiveda contract nor improved their lifes with that evil company that really hopes to discard them as soon as possible because they don't consider them for anything serious or for anything in the future in that project in which they also don't intend to invest a penny because it doesn't generate any profit?
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>>19911142
Kek you cooked that puerco
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>>19911142
this anon just made chorizo >>19911142
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>>19911142
It's known CMLL still pays pennies compared to popular stablished luchadores working in the indies tough, so the current Triple a roster has the best out of both worlds but yeah keep grasping at straws.
Also
>Blake
>And this sentence >>19911163
Oh so it's Wheels, shoo shoo you are not welcome here go back to the ToneZone (is it still alive)
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>>19911184
Eating heavy before sleeping...
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>>19911190
But enough about me
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WWE’s AAA show schedule:
>02.21.26 - AAA on FOX ep. 6 (taped 02.07.26)
El Hijo de Dr. Wagner Jr. vs. Belcegor
AAA World Cruiserweight Title
Laredo Kid (c) vs. TJ Perkins
Abismo Negro Jr. vs. El Fiscal
>02.28.26 - AAA on FOX ep. 7
No matches announced but taping for episode 8 too
>03.14.26 - AAA Rey De Reyes 2026
AAA Mega Title
Dominik Mysterio (c) vs. El Hijo del Vikingo
Plus more including taping three additional TV episodes
>04.11.26 - AAA on FOX taping
>05.02.26 - AAA on FOX taping
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>>19911188
Oh yeah and btw triple A has always paid 10x whatever CMLL paid on a contractor scheme, which has been confirmed multiple times by multiple luchadors, with some exceptions like Mistico or whatever FOTM main eventer filled the arena which also happens in Triple A anyway.
So shoo shoo
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>>19911188
>CMLL still pays pennies
>6 live shows at week + a lot of dates at independent shows
>more than 45000 tickets sold every week
>they own their own arenas
>fixed salary + commissions + medical insurance
>Triple HAHAHA
>1 show of 5000 attendees every 3 weeks
>no contract, no fixed salary, no medical insurance
>they don't do any more shows and they don't sign any contracts simply because it's not profitable
>1 show of 5000 attendees every 3 weeks
>their luchadores have to find their own dates to cover their monthly bills

Are you mentally retarded or just a mediocre imbecilic nasty busty porky dronie who isn't even willing to think of a more ingenious, less obvious, and pornographically explicit lie?

Kicking your ass isn't even fun anymore, it's boring and repetitive...
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>>19911219
Fake, stop lying, pork.Y ou don't even have enough to run a weekly show or to sign more than 3 luchadores.
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>>19911246
Ohhhh so they still pay pennies after they filled arenas then? Isn't that devilish?
Because popular luchadors still say Triple A pays more and many luchadors still pay pennies, nevertheless how CMLL luchadors can't get any royalties or merch sales because no one cares enough about their gimmicks...
Wow how evil! but you say 40 bucks per month insurance is worth a lot impressive!!!
I guess that's a win let's keep paying them pennies monthly in 10 months they will be able to get the same money as the Triple A talent!!!

BTW you haven't been filling those arenas lately right? ouch!
Shoo shoo wheels learn how the business is made around here
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>>19911349
and many luchadors are still being paid pennies*
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>>19911252
>Forgetting about house shows
Not everything is on TV
They have like 3 non TV shows every week in different parts of Mexico with different talent, this is were the Nickname Caravana Estelar came from.
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>>19911349
>>19911357
Of course, now ask yourself why so many luchadores passed through AAA in recent years and jumped ship precisely because they didn't have dates (and therefore not pay). Everyone who left CMLL and went to AAA, left AAA. I wonder who would turn down a paycheck ten times higher, according to you. So DMT Azul and Mala Fama should earn more at Arena Naucalpan in IWRG because leaving AAA to go to IWRG, which everyone knows pays the least, doesn't seem like a great deal to me. I wonder why even Psycho Clown left AAA twice while being the main star there.

Perhaps 1 live show a month wasn't enough. But hey, now it's 1 live show every 3 weeks. They don't have any luchadores under contract, they don't have dates, but according to you they earn 10 times more, and that's why everyone wants to be in AAA and not in CMLL.

I hope they already have the money to pay Andrade what they still owe him. Perhaps they spent too much on peanuts and chips, and that's why they still owe payment for just one of their dates in pesos. I hope AAA can pay his date to him soon.

Surely a bankrupt company, with no dates, no contracted luchadores, that didn't even have an office staff and never even had its own arena, is going to pay 10 times more to the luchadores that it doesn't even have on its roster because everyone abandoned ship...

You've bored me, pendejo.
As you can see, it's very easy for this imbecile to come here and spew lies and nonsense. I suggest everyone ignore him completely, since he so mediocre and doesn't even bother to come up with a lie that at least sounds logical and believable.
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Cuatrero has finally spoken about Vaquer
>He says she was jealous and possessive
>It seems someone close to both betrayed him and supported Vaquer in the lawsuit
>He also said someone snitched a counter lawsuit (Most likely the judge that Vaquer fucked) and it fell
>The host which is one of el Santo's grandkids clarifies most of the Lucha community was supporting Cuatrero and not Vaquer and that everyone distrusted her
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gQZa4uEfq4
Also what's going on with all the CMLL schizo posting this late at night?
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>>19911373
Don't be that stupid, those are independent shows using the AAA logo, not AAA shows. Those idiotic independent promoters have been illegally using the AAA logo for years to sell their shows, but they're not AAA shows.

PENDEJO!!!!
PATETICOOO Y PENDEJOOOO!!!
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>>19911472
>Non popular Indie luchador - hotdog handshake
>CMLL luchador without big contract - Pennies unless it's a main eventer
>Non popular Triple A luchador without big contract - Bigger monies than CMLL (everyone literally leaves CMLL to win bigger)
>Popular luchador + Indie shows - Even Bigger monies because indie shows pay big to stablished luchadores
>Popular luchador + Triple A - Even bigger monies
You are thinking to much on it
No one ever returns to CMLL unless they have a bigger contract like the AEW/NJP contracts because they pay pennies.
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>>19911496
CMLL schizo is always seething that no one cares about CMLL and it's dead threads
But I'm thinking it's actually Hogwheels in disguise due to that Blake pic and those cooked comments which would actually make sense given this level of schizo posting
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>>19911500
So you are saying Triple A is not an evil company that let's indie shows use their talent and image unlike the evil CMLL that pays pennies and tries to keep it's image pure while staying away not supporting from small lucha shows, cool!
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>>19911574
you are gonna make him pop a vein kek
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>>19911574
resorts give away free cmll tickets to tourists for arena mexico
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>>19911641
Yeah there's many ways to get free CMLL tickets, I remember you could even get free tickets by buying 1 kilo of ground beef meat in certain stores.
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>CMLL doesn't work with other Mexican Promotions/Arenas
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>>19911756
Yawn, call us when CMLL actually supports smalll local shows, I wonder if this is why the CMLL schizo tried to shill IWRG this weekend.
I'm gonna go watch some CMLL to sleep comfortably if you catch my drift.
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>CMLL debuted their first Trans-Canadian female wrestler where she retained her MLP female championship against Sanely
HAHAHAHAH
You can't make this shit up
How long until the inevitable Nyla Rose debut?
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Not looking good for lucha promotions since they are dropping things which make them unique

CMLL confirms they've dropped capitan rules, and all matches are now one person on a team gets pinned to end the fall.
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VIVA MEXICOOOOOOOO >>19911969
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>>19910641
What is the contempory view on the work of Mil Mascaras?
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>>19910808
ah, the mexican console faggot is here again, rubbing his poodle ass all over the thread again. Thanks but no thanks.
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>>19911948
Thank you, AEW!
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>>19911939
Would
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chicas les encanta la máscara
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>>19911867
they do, they work all over the republic
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>>19911641
>>19911676
CMLL doesn't even give away its smallest YouTube stream for free, and this stupid nasty lying pork says they're giving away tickets.

That's AAA, which at least 5 years before WWE bought them, had to give away half its tickets so its big events wouldn't look so empty. CMLL sells 45,000 tickets a week, and AAA can't even sell 20,000 once a year for their biggest show...

And speaking of giving things away, let's remember how AAA gave away its intellectual property to El Rey Network to participate in Lucha Underground, which is why they had to shut down their Twitch streams and stop selling internationally. Without a doubt, the stupidest, most pathetic, and desperate thing you can do, and it almost caused the demise of that shitty promotion because they even had to take down their YouTube channel in Mexico for several weeks.

I've been kicking your anus for at least 8 months and you don't even try anymore, you stupid lying disgusting mediocre pig.
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>>19912782
Is that pic a recent one in Japan?
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>>19912830
Yeah, a bunch of CMLL guys are in japan for the rest of the month.
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>>19911948
CMLL doesn't like trannys and this is the first time this has happened surely because Scott D'Amore insisted on that too much during some negotiation. But it's not that serious, and the good outweighs the bad because CMLL has alliances with practically everyone now. MLP doesn't have a large roster, so they'll probably rely heavily on CMLL to take luchadores to Canada,and that will help them gain traction there.

The one who really benefits the most is CMLL because MLP doesn't have much to offer in terms of talent, but it does provide another platform for exposure for luchadores and Scott D'Amore's immense network of contacts while he also makes money thanks to CMLL. It's a win-win for both of them.
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>>19912855
What surprises me is that Soberano keeps accumulating girlfriends even in Japan, and that japanese women break their manners just to kiss him just like in Mexico, lol.
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>>19912865
How is AAA the more progressive fed. I thought aewtists were supposed to be woke
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>>19912871
Funny that you mention it, in a recent interview Soberano mentioned that whenever he goes to Japan, japanese wrestlers are very impressed by the way he so effortlessly gets the crowd to interact with him (women in particular).
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>>19912252
He is still highly respected, but these days nobody escapes becoming a meme either, and he also receives a lot of ridicule for his narcissism and his invented and exaggerated anecdotes. Furthermore, since his brother Dos Caras, Alberto del Rio's father, was recently denounced by his wife for rape and violence, people believe that in that lineage there are only psychopaths and sexual deviants...
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>>19912873
No, in Mexico faggots have been integrated into society for many decades. Nobody pays them tribute like they do today in America; rather, in Mexico it was always common to see them actively participating in society and well integrated into it without all this LGBT ideological politicking. Faggots are friends and family; they receive jokes and are the butt of taunts just like fat or bald people, they make jokes and taunts to others too like a normal person, and nobody gets offended. It's only in recent times that the poison of queer politicking, as the psyop that it is, which comes from the United States, is being injected into Mexico. AAA had faggots because it accurately reflected mexican popular society in the 90's. People adore Pimpinela for their charisma, not precisely because he's puto or because AAA is woke.
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>>19912884
Yes, Soberano has something special. I'm completely heterosexual and very macho, I like women with big breasts, big butts, and wide hips, and even so, Soberano is my husbando too.
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>>19912936
Soberano is just the perfect storm: he's handsome, a beast at crowd work yet hasn't reached the point of just fucking around, talented enough to pull his weight when it comes to actual wrestling and he embraces the casanova gimmick wholeheartedly. Plus, according to literally everyone who meets him, he's nice as fuck.

There are some other guys at CMLL I personally prefer more, but Sobero is on the way to be the next face of wrestling if CMLL doesn't get retarded with him. (Just give him an assigned spot for photo ops in Mexico City, is not that hard, CMLL).
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>lucha thread
>It's just CMLL schizo ranting
Damn
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>>19912810
LOL nigga what? You flooding threads with redditposting blogs makes everyone think you are a CMLL obsessed schizo, this is why your CMLL gamethreads are always empty anyway (besides obviously CMLL fumbling booking and starpower to gather interest)
>5 years before WWE
So Covid era dummy same happened with CMLL and yet CMLL still gives free tickets away and yet they aren't filling arenas anymore
>Twitch
Everyone streams on youtube even CMLL does it because that's were you can get the best reach, except the evil CMLL who paywalls it's shows
Also you seem to make a big deal about their arenas and WWE buying Triple A but you still ignore the fact that CMLL was also selling it's company to WWE but WWE didn't want their arenas in the deal because they saw it pointless for their business model
>>19911948
Yup and they even they just spread their cheeks voluntarily, both for the rule changes and the tranny beating Sanely in a so called sacred sport
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>>19913277
>I know nothing about LUCHA
>I'm not even interested in LUCHA at all.
>I'm just here to talk shit about CMLL hoping no one will correct me or humiliate me because I'm a WWE cultist pig who 'loves AAA' just because I hate AEW so much and therefore I hate CMLL too much too, which I know nothing about, and all I can do is spread lies, nonsense and crap, and I hope to be able to act with impunity without anyone exposing me

PA THE TIC!!
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>>19913306
>See a lucha general
>Cool I wanna know more about lucha the AAA shows have been really cool
>YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT LUCHA
>WATCH CMLL OR ELSE YOU ARE A PIG!!!!
lol you keep watching CMLL I'm good
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>>19913294
Rebut my arguments, not whether or not I overuse the Enter key.
(You can't refute anything because my arguments are FACTS, and FACTS can't be refuted.

And stop pretending to talk about what you don't know as if you knew a damn thing, because I've already proven to you and everyone else too many times for too long that you don't know a shitand that you only come here to tell LIES and spread poison against the CMLL.

It's already boring to kick your nasty anus all the time...
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>>19913349
Hey that's a pic of World's Collide, anyway what arguments? I've already refuted everything and told facts over and over.
>Collab with the biggest vidya+furry fandom in the world
>Give the event away for free
>Still nobody cared
Common CMLL fumble, you should probably make a blog about it in your own thread or something
>>19913322
>>19913277
Just no sell to him don't worry
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>>19913322
AAA is no longer LUCHA, that's already been said and you've been unable to refute it.

You don't watch LUCHA, you're not interested in LUCHA. You don't know shit about IWRG, or The Crash, or CVW, or AULL, and you don't know who the hell is Demonio Infernal, or Tonalli, or Blaze, or Hijo del Pirata Morgan, or Trauma I and Trauma II, or La Secta, or La Puerkiza Extrema, or DMT Azul, or Hellboy, or Charro Negro, or Emperador Azteca, or Konnan Big are. You're only interested in coming here to talk about 'Dom-Dom' and how you hope to see him with Liv again so you can jerk off thinking about them having sex. That's all you care about in AAA, because wrestling itself doesn't interest you in any way.

Why do you want to come and talk about 'Dom-Dom' in a LUCHA thread when you have the whole damn board to do what you've been doing for months? Why do you want to come here and talk about WWE in a LUCHA thread when LUCHA is the least of your interests in life?
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>>19913335
These niggas are dimes. Great addition to the roster. AAA’s tag teams are always their most peso wrestlers. The should combine Wagner and Octagon
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>>19913415
Disgusting charlatan, it says a lot about you that you're forced to resort to lies just to stay afloat and have something to say. I'm the only one who writes walls of text with solid argumentation and irrefutable FACTS. You just come here to throw out two lines of text full of lies and nonsense.

Worlds Collide was a free-to-watch show for WWE subscribers, whose channel has over 100 million subs. For a channel with 100 million subscribers, those views are far too low, not even 4%.

The Pokemon event was only promoted through the social media accounts of CMLL and Pokemon LATAM (not even Pokemon Company, only Pokemon LATAM). Tickets sold out in 3 hours. 18,000 tickets sold in just a few hours. CMLL doesn't really have a lot of subscribers on its YT channel; Pokemon LATAM only has 300k subscribers (and we're talking about POKEMON, the most profitable franchise of all). Compare the proportional success of a show when a channel with 300k subscribers has 206k views, and when a channel with 404k subscribers has 259k views.

You're just a disgusting charlatan, and also too fool too, because you're giving me fuel to incinerate you, you repulsive pork.
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>>19913537
LMAO the mental gymnastics on this man to try to cope that no one cared for the CMLL event...
So it's still 10x less than World's Collide then right given they were both Worldwide free events right?
I guess it's accurate as the CMLL wage rates then!
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Instead of AEWWEing the whole thread, post about your favorite wrestlers/shows/promotions respectfully.
Everything Lucha is accepted here.
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>>19913669
Still wisin, soon to debut in AAA probably since they have been tracking him hard but who knows if he can speak english dogs don't speak human.
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>>19913669
I made my case don't worry CMLL schizo just keeps burying himself over and over
For me it depends the era but currently Kaiser's EGA but Wisin el Dog is a great modern choice like the other anon said
>>19913679
Imagine If they make a new Perros del Mal featuring Wisin in some form
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Yo quiero mas Money Machine
Garra del Oro has a dimes look with the full cover mask
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>>19913335
Pure Aura, they have potential
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>>19913662
WWE is watched internationally, CMLL is only watched in Mexico.
The real question here is, why didn't you watch AAA before you became part of WWE?
Those 3.5 million views would have been the case if AAA weren't owned by WWE and WWE hadn't promoted the event across all its social media channels and streamed it for free on its main YouTube channel?
Would you really pay to watch AAA if it wasn't free?

Why, if AAA is such a profitable business internationally, is there only one show for 5,000 people (who pay in pesos) every three weeks, and why aren't they leveraging the brand in the United States? Why do you have to pay to see Wrestlepalooza, but AAA has been streamed completely free, even though it uses the WWE brand, which is the biggest and most important in the world?

How about Worlds Collide 2? Why don't even you remember that event existed a few months later?

The question is why, if WWE expressed its intention to enter Mexico more than 15 years ago, they never lifted a finger until Tony Khan made his move, selling out more than 14,000 tickets in 6 hours and making a strong impact in Mexico, only for WWE to decide a few days later to buy that bankrupt promotion called AAA.

(will be continued)
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>>19913662
>>19913774

(continuation)
Do you want me to tell you why they preferred to buy AAA rather than form an alliance with AAA? Because AAA was simply so crap and in such terrible bankrupt state that an alliance would only tarnish the WWE brand, which wouldn't gain anything from it anyway. So they saw that it was bankrupt and worthless, and they simply absorbed it just to have something to leverage in Mexico, but they don't plan to invest a single cent in it because it's simply not profitable in any way, and they know it perfectly well. That's why there are no live shows, and the only 1 they have every 3 weeks is to record material for TV to fulfill their contract with Fox, which only gives them 1 hour a week, at a time when nobody watches TV, and when Fox decides to air the show just waiting to cut it off as quickly as possible and broadcast something else.
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Tomorrow's iwrg card
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>>19913728
Stop samefagging, jerk

(And you call me a schizo, you fucking schizo charlatan porky dronie)
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>>19913790
Don't talk shit about Porky
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>>19913792
He was never really the most charismatic member of the family. He was the true ACE of Los Brazos!



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