they're seriously going to have drew drop the belt back to cody before mania huh?what a shitshow
>>20001576serves the retard well for signing a new contract instead of going to AEW
there is a legitimate chance we're going to be stuck with Cody and roman as champs at the same time instead of drew and punkrandy ain't winning it even if cody gets it back
>>20001576Nah, it's gonna end in DQ after at least Fatu gets involved. Orton will join the fray at some point too, be it before or after the match ends. Decent odds also have Sami showing up and making things worse. McIntyre vs Fatu for the belt will be booked on a SD later this month, with another messy DQ finish due to interference. It's all leading up to a McIntyre/Orton/Cody/Fatu 4-Way at Mania.
>Maximum Champion of the company gets zero respect>Meanhile, Paul's fake World Title has constant spots on PLEsPaul can't book
>>20001609a five man elimination match for the title could be kinda dimes but paul would never book it
>>20001624>>20001609Sami would just lose again tho
>>20001609There hasn't been a ladders match in like 8 months
>>20002349I don't think Sami is gonna be included in the multi-man title match, and this will prob intensify his frustrations over what he feels are unjust punishments for always trying to do the right thing. It's looking like they're gonna book Sami vs Trick for Mania but I've argued in other threads that I think this is a waste of both guys right now. The only way that will have a satisfactory payoff is if they nail a double turn where Trick goes face and Sami goes heel. The time isn't right for this, imo, because they need to spend more time introducing Trick to the main show audience and carefully cultivate what they've got going with him already. I'd rather see Trick work a program focused solely on getting him more over, against someone like Priest, rather than tying him up in a convoluted program focused on Sami losing his shit.
>>20001576the moment Punk and Roman were making fun of him, you knew he was on borrowed time
>>20002462I don't get why the backstage cliq all hate this dude. I'm convinced drew wouldn't even ever have won the belt again if it wasn't for seth/cody in his corner
>>20002465What was the word on Seth being in his corner?
>>20002454Great post and I agree with everything you said. But just to clarify, the purpose of the Priest feud would be to solely get Trick over, right? Because Priest deserves nothing, he sucks and it should be a 1 and done match not an extended vortex like drew was sucked into lol. But yeah I think it's a good idea to have Trick soundly defeat Priest.
>>20002465its def weird because i remember around covid Roman was putting Drew over in a interview but after that one raw promo i dont know what the deal is now
>>20001576I like Drew but he’s never gonna main event Wrestlemania
I think fatal 4 way, Fatu/Drew/Orton/Cody (c) will be the way to go. Orton finally fully gives in to his killer instinct and turns on Cody to win. Cody chases Orton and they give us kino for a while.>>20003101Drew was doing the Bloodline hunter stuff last year and then it was unceremoniously dropped. I read that as Roman nixed and opted to be inserted into Punk/Seth instead. This probably pissed Drew off and he spoke his mind to Roman or whoever. A year later Roman buries the guy.
>>20001624WWE Championship scramble match as the mania main eventDrewCodyRandyFatuJey UsoBrian Kendrick
why even take it off Cody then, they could've had more focused 4 month build up to Cody vs Randy instead of them fucking around this entire time and then only having 3 weeks to cut promos I hope Randy kicks his fucking head off
>>20003147It was supposed to be Cody/Drew but they ran that feud into the ground. Besides they have 6 weeks left to build which is more than enough.
>>20002465Paul has always been fairly petty about his perceived ‘legacy’ and so he’s very reluctant to push dudes who he didn’t hand pick and believes at least subconsciously are basically a better version of his ‘game’ character. I believe it’s partially why Cena’s retirement run was so ass, why Cardona is back to being a ham and egger, and why Knight’s push has been cheeks .
>>20003157>build Cody / Drew with a 3 stages of hell match with no rematch clause Paul can't book
>>20001609How it should go:>Cody looks set to eliminate Drew>RKOOUTTANOWHERE Cody is eliminated first>Orton gets put through announce table by Fatu>Drew/Fatu hoss fight>Cody temper tantrums and crossrhodes both of them>Cody crossrhodes Orton>Fatu pins Orton>CLAYMOREOUTTANOWHERE>Based Drew retains, Cody goes heel to set up Cody/Orton feudHow it will go:>Drew jobs first>"We're guaranteed a new champion! SURPRISES!">Cody pins Orton >Orton screws Cody to set up Cody/Orton>Fatu wins because WWE is All Anoai Wrestling >Fatu squashes Drew next PLE
>>20003165Ackshually the stipulation made it so Cody had to win the Rumble or Chamber.
>>20001580>serves them wellWhat country uses this version instead of 'serves them right'?
>>20003169Neither of those will happen and turning Cody heel now throws away years of storylines built up, and is a terrible decision when he is the main guy for that Cena demographic and people are starting to cool a little on Punk and Roman and realize that Cody being the main guy worked better for the structure of the company because he's a straight babyface and can also promo without always '''''shooting'''' on people
>>20001609>>20001624randy has also been in the aleister black vortex lately6 guys, perfect recipe for a ladder matchdoubtful that the top title and likely n1 main even ends up in a multiman fiesta especially with a ladder
>>20003228Yeah, now that you mention it... what was that segment last week about? Randy is going to Mania and probably turning heeo but they tied him with Aleister.
>>20001576>Haitch is a poor booker who can't pivotNo way.Also Cody wanted to drop the belt to build the program, Codyverse never works
>>20003207funny post
>>20003234Title change worked wonders and Smackdown main event scene heated up plus everyone got the Drew run they were asking for.
>>20002454there was some report the other day that they were considering turning trick face, and sami heelnow granted, this is self made, ibou's rag, so maybe not the most reliablebut bodyslam (cory hays, generally reliable) also reported that sami/trick is being considered for maniapeak time for a double turn - now i personally hope that doesn't happen because trick is a million times better as a heel, but i think a sami heel turn is also needed, too many faces at the top right now
>>20002465he can work, he can talk, he can get over as a face or a heel, he's the only guy in the company with the size and physique of the top stars of bygone, better eras - they're threatened by himif drew wasn't british he'd genuinely have been vince's chosen one top guy of the future
>>20003132huh what u mean
>>20003207>people are starting to cool a little on Punk and Roman and realize that Cody being the main guy worked betterLMAO everything since the start of the year has proven quite literally the complete opposite - as it turns out, punk is The Guy, not cody. roman is The Star, not cody. punk and roman are main eventing night 2 because they're maybe the last two gigadraws left in wrestling, not cody.the build to mania this year has genuinely exposed cody in a way i don't think many were predicting. his position isn't as rock solid as he projects. he's not in the main event, he's in the geek program, and he is the primary reason it's the geek program.
>>20001609>>20001624drew spoke on the idea of a multi man match just the other day, here's what he said>"I would probably go to management and say, ‘What was the point of Elimination Chamber?’ The whole idea if whoever the best man is wins and faces the champion at WrestleMania. So the best man, which is obviously not Cody, is going to win the Chamber and fight me at WrestleMania. If it was any different than that, I would wonder what the point of the Chamber was,” he said.https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/drew-mcintyre-id-question-the-point-of-elimination-chamber-if-its-a-multi-man-match-at-wrestlemania/take it as foreshadowing, take it as subtly shooting, take it as a worked shoot, but he did comment on the idea
>>20001622That's because Drew is just an upper midcarder who has no business being the champion. Giving him the WWE title automatically turned it into a midcard title.
>>20003160Not really because Punk has complete absolute power on storylines, backstage, NXT, and even hiring people. You can't say Paul cares about his legacy when he gives complete power to the one guy who shit talked him everywhere for ten years and was successful in spite of him.
>>20003139Kek would pop my ass
>>20003253Sami turning heel to help Drew retain against Cody would be the most interesting direction IMO. It makes sense since Cody and Fatu shitted on him the last couple weeks and he's losing his cool about his failures.Orton is such a noncharacter nowadays though. I doubt the mania match won't be expanded to at least a triple threat.
>>20003189A brown one.
>>20001624You’re talking about the same genius who booked these matches
>>20003309I think that’s just a work overall. He’s actively interfered in the Royal Rumble, EC qualifiers and the EC itself to prevent certain people (largely Cody) from getting a chance against him. It’s in his interest to say rules need following if it keeps Cody and Jacob away from his title.
>>20003344>Not really because Punk has complete absolute power on storylines, backstage, NXT, and even hiring peopleYou have zero proof of this mark
>>20003253Trick can work right now as a face because he's way too over as a heel and he can play off Melo and Cody and still talk smack etc. On his own it might be a risk though
>>20003300Punk Roman has been spinning it's wheels for three weeks and they have nowhere set to go after the program and nobody at the top of the card to challenge except Seth. Meanwhile Smackdown and Cody have spent time building up everything and they have so many places to go right now, then after Mania they already have 6 or more months of storylines setup plus a win or a loss means something for everybody involved and changes things whereas no matter who is champ on RAW it is sticking to a certain status quo. Even if you put the title back on Cody, Randy's turning on him, maybe even Sami, Fatu will want to face him, Trick can get involved, all other people can get involved with each other, people suspect even Aldis can get involved with Drew, they still have the Seth Cody thing open. It's a whole different level of thinking and storytelling than 'I freaking hate you! You pipebomba ME!? Well, I pipebomba YOU!!'
>>20003427Good post. If Roman wins he'll defend it a couple times, do the Saudi show and maybe WarGames. Who does he face, Gunther? Another Jey/Roman match? Punk doesn't have many options either. This is unless they do a draft after Mania.
>>20003335So is Cody and yet he was given the belt.
>>20003667Biggest merch mover yearly back to back, huge increase in tickets and viewership, most requested for signings and photoshoots, etc. Go look at the crowds before he came back compared to immediately after.
>>20003300>gigadraws>haven't been able to sell out EC or WM for months now
>>20003672Yeah after Roman did all that for like 5-6 years and longer even. But keep telling me how the merch sales affect his look and the fact that he sucks in ring Mr wwe executive.
>>20003253How would a double turn even work here? It's not very believable that Sami could brutalize Trick
>>20003726What? I just told you to look at the crowds before and after Cody's return.
>>20003427Agreed
>>20003427that part
They shouldve had Drew win at WrestlePalooza like Cody was vouching for but whatever reason they dragged it out way longer then it shouldve so now their kindling scrambling to things up for Mania
>>20001576Study the Rock/Mankind feud and get back to me
>>20003813Do you even remember what the crowds looked like before the Bloodline? Do you think that Cody would mangae to bring in even more people if it wasn't for the fact that he was chosen to end the Bloodline story.
>>20003309>which is obviously not Codykek
Good thread (for once).I’ve been on the “Fatal 4-Way” train for awhile now, because they’ve clear been setting up 4 guys at the top and all the WM promos have openly ended with the tagline of “it’s anybody’s game.”But that said, I still think they could effectively go a number of directions and it would make sense.They COULD put the belt back on Cody this week and do Cody v Orton at WM. That would make sense and be an entertaining face v face match. I think Orton would need to win, though, because it advances both their stories more. If Cody beats Orton to DEFEND the title, that doesn’t do anything for either of them.In that case, you’d do Drew v Fatu on the undercard, and that’d make sense too. They COULD keep the belt on Drew this week and just stick with Drew v Orton at WM. You could book either of them to win that, and it’d be fine. If they want to keep building up Drew (like they’re doing with Gunther, for instance), then you book Drew to prevent Randy from getting #15, possibly with outside interference (I like the Sami Zayn idea for that). But if you’re done with Drew for awhile, you could book Orton to get #15 at Mania, and the crowd would love it.In that case, you do Cody v Fatu on the undercard, and that makes sense too. Point is, there’s a lot of ways they could go with that story, and I think that’s a good thing. Story aside, I think the key business question is: does TKO care whether Cody Rhodes is (or isn’t) in the “Main Event of Wrestlemania,” given all they’ve poured into him the last 3 years. The answer to that question will determine all this.
What they honestly should do at this point is a ladder match for the wwe title. we have too many people who want to "hurt" drew. >cody>randy>sami>jacob>drewthat's a good amount right there.
drew isn't a draw KWABhis fans are all online they don't buy tickets
>main event night 1: 30 minutes of rest holds>main event night 2: 40 minutes of posturing Zzzzzz
>>20006826shut the FUCK up CAWdy
>>20006800the last time a world title was featured in a ladder match was 12 years ago, MITB 2014, when there was a vacancy.the last time a world title was featured at wrestlemania in a ladder match was... never. it has never happened.
>>20006899there was a change in the way nelson ratings worked drew isnt a draw
>>20006952was there a change in the way selling tickets worked because you seem to have glanced over that part
>>20006939Hell, the last time there was a gimmick/stipulation world title match was 40. Cody and Roman's Bloodline Rules match for the WWE title. The last one before that I'm pretty sure was the Iron Man match between Michaels and Hart.
>>20003427This is a fantastic post. Smackdowns main event scene will be loaded for a while and will outshine raws
Lol @ the juxtaposition between this reactionary, immature post (probably a brownoid>>20003300And this high IQ, well thought out, quality post (probably a white person)>>20003427
>>20006607good post, theres so many different directions they could go with a 4way that if they don't decide to do that, they're more incompetent than i thought
>>20006607>, I think the key business question is: does TKO care whether Cody Rhodes is (or isn’t) in the “Main Event of Wrestlemania,” given all they’ve poured into him the last 3 years. The answer to that question will determine all this.Good question... I honestly dont know
>>20006967Murdered.
>>20006607personally im fine with Cody/Randy because theyve been building that feud ever since Cody won the title back from Cena, they botched Drews win by not only losing twice but also winning in it the shittyiest way possible with the Chamber he shouldve beaten Cody clean at Palooza
>>20006607>>20001609>>20001624It's gonna be a five-way.Drew/Rhodes/Orton/Fatu/Zayn
>>20003427Punk going full Christian Cage on Reigns for no reason was quite odd.
Paul can’t book.
>>20005336...The Bloodline started during the Thunderdome era. Prior to that it was Big Dog Roman, and once the crowds came back AEW was trending upwards in attendance while WWE was stagnant, then the Punk thing happened and Cody returned, reversing that. Roman alone doesn't work to bring in the kids and families, maybe another reason why the Roman Punk thing isn't hitting home, and they need someone like a Cody or Cena, then everyone works better together. Same thing if it was just a white meat babyface and no darker or more serious characters, it gets stuck in one place.
>>20006607They need Cody in the Main Event because they have pretty much every big player laid out except him and tickets are slow. There's also a part of the fanbase that will be dissapointed he is moved down the card
>>20006967They included the Saudi Smackdown to try and claim there is a big spike. Reality is that SD is doing around 9k average, which is also close to what they did the previous year, despite prices rising astronomically.
>>20001576Kek the "thank you come again" title reign
>>20007270idblt
>>20003427smackdown>title match on tv, title actually changes hands. followed up by qualifiers for the chamber where everybody is getting involved in each others business and have complex relationships. champ plays a part in the ppv result, next smack has a title match that can change the whole course of mania, and we'll also wait to see what everyone else involved will doraw>wait weeks to see a promo where they 'spill the tea' about each other. once the promo is over nothing changes and you wait weeks for the next promo
>>20005797Loollllll not according to Sngroli
>>20008522That part
>>20001624Guys is fishing really a manly past time?
I just hope tomorrow’s show is any good. I hardly expect to be surprised anymore in this Eras Era.
>>20001576>what a shit showYou're bitching about a hypothetical you just made up.It doesn't seem like Drew is dropping the belt to Cody. Cody dropped the belt to Drew back in January because he thought the storyline would be better if he was chasing the belt again rather than defending. Odds are someone will interfere in the championship match on Friday (probably Jacob Fatu) and this is all building to a triple threat for four way match for the belt at WrestleMania.
>>20002465Because he's The Rock's guy...he bought him a sword and everything
>>20002462>He(Drew) is 4x bigger than you (Pepsi man)Roman did put Drew over while also burying him
>>20003160This. Drew mogs Tri at everything >Taller>Better look>Better in ring without needing no DQ shortcut>Better promo>Matches and promos don't plod at snails pace for 20 mins but isn't a no selling flip merchant>Naturally funny Vs relying on 4/10 sophomore humor >Can work different roles and characters as face or heel and feel natural>Survived comedy jobber gimmick>Got organically over with fans and stayed over Drew is the legitimate Total Package of his generation.>>20003267Also this. If he was American he would have been the guy instead of Roman years and years ago. Could be worse though he's at least Scottish, if he was English he'd have plateaued as modern British Bulldog because WWE unironically hate English wrestlers more than any other nationality.
>>20003376>WrestleMania 2000's main event was so dogshit it solidified Backlash as the PPV to fix its mistakes.jej
>>20003376>WM16If Austin hadn't been hurt and had been in this 4 way it could have been a kino programme and main event, you'd have had the 3 faces of the Attitude Era plus Hunter.>BacklashConcept works, shit in execution because making Triple H and Shane McMahon the sympathetic underdogs disadvantaged by the system makes no sense and doesn't work >Championship scrambleThis was kino and should come back
>>20008480>Prices rise astronomically >Attendance holds or ticks up slightly Not good argument to say he's not a draw
