Why did Triple Nose blackball Lyra?
>>20033963>Lyra>Not handpickedlmao
He seethed.
men who discuss women's wrestling in this manner need to be culled
>>20033963they don't trust her>>20033971fucking this, she was becko's pet and had a rocket strapped to her ass and just couldn't do it
There he goes.
Have no idea what they were thinkingLike remove Becky from the equation and give that push to a Sol Ruca or a Kendall Grey, a Jaida Parker or even Jordynne GraceWhy Lyra of all people?
>>20034036it's literally just because becko wanted her pushed because they are both irish. I like Roxy, but I'm sure she got pushed due to booker
>>20034095The becko, seff, sami, owens & cody clique have been a disaster for wrestling.
>>20033963>Can't let your guard downFuck off. They pushed the shit out of Lyra for over an entire year. From video packages hyping up her matches, to the QOTR finals, to being Becky's best friend, to having a proxy feud with world champion Liv, to being the inaugural women's IC champion, to winning the tag belts at Mania, to the big Summerslam match with Becky. And she flopped every goddamn step of the way. It wasn't just this one promo. This one promo is just where even the people still left defending her could no longer do so
>>20034126She lost the tag belts a week after She lost the Liv “feud”Being friends with Becky isn’t a reward None of this meant anything in the end or made her into some star so I don’t see what the big fuss about a push is all about.
>>20034122and they're all anti dimes too
>>20033971Handpicked by beko not by gaitch
Is Lyra the biggest draw on /pw/? I think she is. You either love her, or hate how much you love her.
>>20034141>She lost the tag belts a week afterShe still was given a big Mania moment that was used to build the story with Becky you dipshit>She lost the Liv “feud”As she should. She was nobody and Liv was world champion. Yet she was still given the stage to work with her right off being called up>Being friends with Becky isn’t a rewardYou really don't understand how booking works at all. To get called up and immediately be positioned next to the top names in the division is a huge leg up in trying to push and legitimize someone new. Would you say Undertaker shaking Cena's hand after his debut wasn't a reward either? Because it's the same storytelling mechanic at play>None of this meant anything in the end or made her into some star Because she's fucking shit and she sucks
>>20034126this>>20034141she lost the tag belt the day after. She won the belt at mania because becko wanted her mania moment and then becko and lyra dropped the belts the next day on RAW because tatum and gigi won a match for the belts on NXT and becko didn't want to go to nxt.They gave lyra 2 wins over IYO for QotR and the IC belt, the IC belt, 2 wins over dakota (kwab), sent her to the QotR finals, sent her to MitB. She was given 7 PPV matches, not including the rumble, in her first year plus on the roster after being drafted and then basically dropped after summerslam and sent to bagley jail
>>20033963Fire Becky
>>20033963>you can't mess up by having an all-time terrible awkward promo that gets zero crowd reaction or they'll stop giving you promo timeThe problem with this is...?
>>20034166>wins over IYO for QotRAh that’s the crux of your complaining. Now I get it. May you find peace on Rhea’s strap-on.
>>20034166>7 PPV matchesdas crazywhat the fuck were they thinking
>>20034166She's been on TV almost every single week since SummerSlam.
>>20034141>None of this meant anything in the end or made her into some starThat's because she failed on her end anon. What more could WWE have done for her at that point? That's why her push died. They set her up with a ton of big moments and points to elevate her and she didn't live up to her end of it. They can't go out there and physically make her perform to the level they were trying to push her. She actually has to do her job as well in order for it to work. Which she didn't and that's why she failed
>>20034150I mean I actually do like the Codester but he associates himself with the fucking worst people in the world.
>>20034185She had excellent matches. The Backlash one, Paul said was the best women's match he had seen in a long time. She lost the belt because that was the end of that story with her and Becky and the continuation of the relationship with her and Bayley, which continues today.
>>20034169>The problem with this is...?She's their 'cute little birb :3' That's the problem. So they can't actually look at the fact that she's dogshit and one of the WOAT on the mic
>>20034194
>>20034191>She had excellent matches.That's all well and good but respectfully it means fuck all. That's one part of things. If the only way you can do good work is through 20 minute matches then you're not really an asset. Look at how much Vaquer started to stall until they got her in this program with Liv. You HAVE to be able to carry feuds and stories through promos in WWE because you're not getting 20 minute matches designated to you every week. Also she completely fucked up that SummerSlam match with Becky which was her biggest one to date. She blew the ziptie spot completely which shit all over the entire match and then she made it go way longer than it was meant to which probably fucked her more than even the Becky stompers promo did
>>20034173reddit spacinghomo>>20034180bagley vortex tag jail >>20034178and not one of them good
>>20034186I don't. he sucks >>20034191>She had excellent matches.LMFAOno she hasn't
>>20034191>She lost the belt because that was the end of that story with her and Beckyshe lost the belt because she couldn't get over
>>20033963they gave her a lot. the idea that she wasn’t “handpicked” is ridiculous, she was given a big push. and she squandered it, didn’t get over, and they moved on. that’s just how wrestling works. she’s lucky to be in the spot she currently is.
>>20033963>First ever IC women's champion >Goes over IYO clean (something even Rhea hasn't done) >Instantly feud with Becky for months >Get paired with Bayley for most of the time She just isn't over. She sucks. Decent in ring but she just doesn't have IT
>tfw people are once again furiously trying to convince fans of Lyra Valkyria that Lyra isn't over
Iyo is a ugly retard botch machine that's only over because of pedos with yellow fever. Liv is a trashy whore injury prone shitter with an annoying voice that is only over because of third world coomers. Rhea is a ugly tranny that's only over because of lesbians and fags.
>>20033963Cause she's just not very good....thought it was obvious?
>>20034229very simply, just because she’s over with you doesn’t mean she’s over overall. she’s a smark favorite but it stops there. if she was actually over she’d be in a more prominent spot on the card.
Bugcel
>>20034202putting Vaquer with Nikki then Raquel was the dumbest idea ever, like neithe can go in the ring which negates what you really want to showcase with vaquer when you bring her on the main roster, good fucking matchesbut all the main eventers were in the tag divisionThey wanted to reestablish Nikki on her comeback and try to elevate Raquel, while pushing Vaquer but these feuds should have been squashes to establish Vaquer who just arrived on the main roster. she carried it as best as possible considering that she had to nonsensically get beat up every week and have somewhat equal matches when it should have been squashesAll of this, including the tag divsion hogging up all the main eventers, was ironically a byproduct of putting a Lyra match in every 5-match PPV for almost a year Crazy
>>20034243She was in fact your inaugural women's intercontinental champion, former tag team champion, workhorse of the women's division, and all around beloved member of the roster.
>>20033963Did you not see Unreal? They pretty much explained why her and LA don't get pushed much anymore.
>>20034279she’s a perfect example of how strapping someone up doesn’t get them over.
>>20034295LA knight is weird because he’s still over but they won’t budge with him. there’s gotta be something that unreal won’t cover going on there. it’s not just botching. if botches were what DQ’d someone from a push then jey explain jey uso.
>>20034295I didn’t actually, what is the explanation for their depush?
>>20034308Jey got depushed eventuallyI think LA Knioght's problem is that the botches are apparent, it's not just the occasional slip in a match, it's a critically fumbled line here, a fucked finish there, which kinda contributes to the shaky image even if he's over. I mean the EC botch was fucking horrendous for a guy on his way to a big title, complete aura killer, good salvage with the ambulance segment but it could have been catastrophic. He probably gives HHH Austin/Rock nightmares though, which is probably the main problem, he's definitely solid and over enough for at the very least a short reign when they indeed gave the belt to jey
>>20034225>>Goes over IYO clean (something even Rhea hasn't done)she went over IYO clean twice
>>20034256>putting Vaquer with Nikki then Raquel was the dumbest idea ever,I disagree. They had a solid story with her and Nikki and the fans were into it until it just became Nikki Bella having to doing all of the heavy lifting with the promos. Vaquer just couldn't pull that emotion out that she needed to any time she would talk. I don't remember anything about the Raquel feud apart from the blow off match which I liked. They seem to have found a good balance with her now though. Let her be like Asuka and just talk her shit in her native language and then translate what needs to be after until she gets better and more comfortable on the mic
>>20034229you can literally hear individual conversations in the stands when lyra wrestles
>>20034231cry more, fatso
>>20034331This part. More people have taken to her over time but there have been moments where it's like that one Deonna entrance kek
>>20034234>>20034243this, good post
>>20034256yeah they really aren't doing a good job establishing new stars when they have to hid Rhea, IYO and Liv in tag jail while Bianca is still hurt.Maybe they could have had her fight Asuka, but they were using Asuka in the Rhea program >>20034279>beloved
>>20034308jey is back in tag jail
>>20034308It's because these promotions/bookers are too focused on their vision and the story they're trying to tell. They have their guys and they're the toys they want to play with. Someone like LA Knight getting more over than Cody, Punk or whoever means they have to divert from their vision and for whatever reason they simply cannot do that
>>20034329I don't remember Nikki doing much lifting lol no promo stood out, like not even why she turned on Vaquer for seemingly no reasonThey tried to create heat that just didn't feel logical with both feuds. There would have been nothing wrong with a friendly rivalry with a good in-ring face until Liv came back and wrapped up her tag team stuff but again, tag division.Asuka or Giulia as her first feud would have been great but they probably thought it was too risky with the dual foreign languages, hopefully they seem to have learned to make subtitles on the regular now
>>20034150respect KO please
>>20034122cody and ko are excellent. the rest stink
>>20034158I like her but she doesn’t show her feet enough
>>20033963>not handpickedShe was handpicked though, they gave her a ton of time, chances and accolades and she never got overAt a point when you keep trying to make someone stick and they just receive indifference handpicked or not you drop them. Unless they're a shield shitter.
>>20033963Does Triple Nose not know that this promo gave us the best no milly webm??? It also was acute promo and hardly the worst. Aj Lee is light years worse since coming back.
>>20034425The funny thing is that the Irish cripplepig is still seething about it to the point he makes threads like this one and talks to himself all because she big leagued gAyEW. Kek!
>>20034456
>>20034456Lemon Tranny Stomperz
>>20034397I'm glad KO is crippled>>20034350wasn't vince like that too?
>>20034459>>20034467kek
>>20034400cawdy and ko stink too>>20034363they should have done asuka since asuka can actually work >>20034425Kairi also has a good one
>>20033963they don't trust her
>>20035304And rightly so
>>20034456Daaamn!! She did the shuffle?I guess I'll add Lyra to the Team
>>20034014I want to strap my black rocket on her ass if you know i mean
>>20036648yuro timeyuro post
>>20034014Many such cases.See: Breakker, Bron
>>20033963Because she's shit m8
>>20033963This promo was humiliatingly bad and she buried herself with it. It doesn't help she was crying by the end of it. This theater geek Lyra simply isn't good at talking.
>>20034036Becky's hog. She was friends with Lyra and some idiot actually put Becks in charge of booking women even though she's retarded.
>>20034150The Codester is pro-dimes actually. Sethypoo and the others you listed are antidimes incarnate.
>>20033963Shes only there cause shes irish like tropple h
>>20034185She simply is incapable of connecting with crowds organically.
>>20034036>jaida parkerI loled
>>20037979cawdy is dimeless. that's why WWE and gayew both fired him
>>20038056jaida is gonna get over instantly, they'll have no choice but to push her. it's on her if she can avoid getting jey uso'd though.
>>20034159Part? That.
>>20033994seething butthurt who seeth about women's wrestling posting need to be culled - what a weepy incel
>>20033963Lyra was literally handpicked as Becko's nepohog tough
>>20038075Jaida can't sell for shit though. She's still in NXT for a reason. She's got a ways to go
>>20034150Cody knows about the business he actually proposed he should have lost the title to Drew way before the 3 stages of hell stuff and that Drew should have Main Evented Mania this year
>>20034310Both had huge fuck ups in big PPV matches. LA fucked up the ending of MITB last year and Lyra botched a whole big of shit with her summerslam match with Becky and went over 10 mins.
>>20034400Cody fucking sucks. I've been saying this since the indies.>Never the guy>Jannetty to Big Gay Ted Jr.>Jannetty to Dustin>Least favorite child of Dusty>Leeched onto Bullet Club >Leeched onto ROH>Leeched onto NWA>Last EVP signed to AEW>Codyverse>Tried to be AEW's John Cena >Booed out of the building weekly>KWAB'D himself to try to get over>Fired by TK bc of his no dimes wife>Lost to Roman>Cody fatigue>"WOOOOOAAAAHHHHHHH" means allergic to yen
>>20033994>>20033973gain legs, fatso
>>20039836cawdy is still boring as shit>>20039817>>20039846that porthow do you go 10 mins over? isn't that also becko's fault?
>>20039956this
>>20033963This was actually a good promo
>>20041019I wouldn't know. I don't watch potato sloppa
>>20041019It was inoffensive at best.
>>20033963There are 30 women that are more over than her and only spots on TV for 8 at a time.
>>20033963>if he didn't handpicked youGMS!
>>20041264IyoRheaKairiAsukaChelseaLivBecky MaxxineRaquel(debatable)Giulia(debatable)Kiana(debatable)BayleyJadeAj Bella Charlotte Alexa That’s about it I think in regards to more over women and half of them don’t even have decent feuds or stories to need tv time and can easily be filled.
>>20041353buried >>20041264this
>>20041019>Becky stompersMaybe on planet retatard, it was cringe at best
>>20034456It's widely known that Lyra is Wheels new muse, the idiot never changes his filenames, posting tendencies or catchphrases
>>20034243>she’s a smark favoriteI wouldn't even go that far. She has a handful of normies that do her birb noise during her entrance. Other than that she gets crickets. Her online smark support is small compared to other smark favorites. She doesn't have many simps either compared to other women
>>20041002>isn't that also becko's fault?I'd say it was 100% Becky's fault since she's the veteran and the so called ring general
