are you interested? 'cuz honestly, i don't fucking care about that TV episode-caliber match at best.i just want to see Liv Morgan pick up the Raw Women's World Championship Belt at Las Vegas, call it a wrap on the program and move on so that Vaquer never gets it back again.
>>20144674It’s the only woman’s match I care about.
I'd care if it was a bra & panties match.
Literally the only match I genuinely care aboutNo idea why the singular livtranny is so butthurt about it but you're butthurt about everyhtingWhat an irredeemably putrid shitposter
>>20144674not really. the build to this match isn't that good. i guess it's more coherent than whatever the fuck is going on over at smackdown. but it's overall heatless and forced.the match itself probably won't be anything special unless liv really really locks in. the outcome is entirely predictable, obviously for better or worse liv is going to win.after that, idk, i'm not really interested in another liv reign. who would she feud with? they need to turn her face fast if she's gonna break with raquel, and that would let her feud with asuka and becky as well. if she stays heel, there's iyo and the vaq rematch. but that's all the women raw has that should be in world title contention. and none of that really moves me.HHH fumbled stephanie so hard. i remember thinking around this time last year that she was totally unfumbleable. he proved me wrong.
>>20144674The story and build has been awful. Vaquer is interesting as cardboard, and they've had to nerf Liv because she can't actually do anything to Steph, because Steph can't respond to it.The match I think will be really good because they'll both stiff the shit out of each other. It might be the first women's match that is an actual brawl style match without everything looking contrived and setup.Overall I just want the feud over with so Liv can get the title and move on to something interestresting with Raquel. It's a complete waste of time to have Vaquer involved with her when she literally can't do anything except runins or pre tapes
I think the only problem is that I wanted to see Stephanie defend it more. I think the Nikki Bella feud wasn't very worthwhile.
>>20144703I'm sure they'll both be dressed like whores. Liv's gear last year barely covered her pussy and she had a nip slip.
>>20144738>I just want the feud over with so Liv can get the title and move on arent people speculating dom is going to turn on liv and team with vaquer though?
>>20144751There's like one guy here who I've seen say this, and everytime multiple people explain why it would make no sense at all
>Vaqueer is already in the thread running full defense
>>20144674>i just want to see Liv Morgan pick up the Raw Women's World Championship Belt at Las Vegas,
>>20144751No? Some people are saying Raquel might cost her the match.
>>20144766>a thread that has vaquer >already doing his vaqueer boogeyma slop
>>20144760guess i missed the explanation of why it wouldnt make sense. but isnt the build for this match showing steph needs a new direction? and if liv is turning face then this is an easy way to turn both and give steph a mouthpiece something she desperately needs. if liv wins the title and steph doesnt turn then what is she even going to do after mania?
>>20144771Raquel turning on before she wins the title makes no sense either. Raquel's whole story for like the past 6 months is that she wants to be women's champion and not a side kick anymore, but Liv has cost Raquel the title inadvertently multiple times. The only reason she'd fuck over Liv is to ruin her chance as well, but that doesn't actually achieve her end goal of being champion. Plus Vaquer would have absolutely no one to feud with if she wins because she's already beaten everyone but Liv
>>20144797Why would Liv turn face? She's already the most over woman on Raw by far, and she's the only heel they have who isn't a midcarder. Vaquer can easily go into a feud where she beats Becky for the IC title
>>20144816>Why would Liv turn face? just speculation ive heard. but like you say she is already the most over women on the roster>Vaquer can easily go into a feud where she beats Becky for the IC titlegoing from the world champ to a lesser title is a downgrade. but it still isnt going to help steph with her promos or the fact she brings nothing to any feud
>>20144830Well, she needs downgraded. She's killed the title, and honestly what she needs to do is get written off, and have someone help her with character work and promos as a whole. Even when she speaks spanish she does it with the passion and fire of a tax auditor. He'll send her to AAA and let her beat that chick who's had the title for a year or whatever
>>20144830>going from the world champ to a lesser title is a downgrade.The mid card is a good place for her to be given her terrible promos and lack of character. She can use it to develop herself further instead of forcing everyone to work around her weaknesses.
>it's another samefagging schizo episodeYeah let's send the best signing WWE made in 3 years to AAA and the IC title with Becky because two autsitic retards can't stand hearing 2 minutes of spenglish a weekWhat the fuck
>>20144859Same people that will argue Raquel is world champ material no idea what kind of brain damage causes that
>>20144859Penta has cut promos weekly in mostly spanish mixed in with a little broken english and the crowd still goes crazy for it because of how naturally charismatic he is. Steph's problem is not speaking spanish, it's having the personality and character of an egg carton
>can't stand hearing 2 minutes of spenglish a weekFirst of all, there is nothing wrong with not wanting to accept subpar feuds and promos. Secondly, it shows her lack of motivation to actually put in the work to engage with the intended target audience. Her promos also sound boring when she speaks in Spanish. She needs to put in the work and develop herself in the midcard before she tries again.
>>20144674Why would I be interested in a womens wrestling match?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1vY4SaNBCesI've posted this clip before, but I think it's the easiest way to illustrate what Vaquers problem is. She sounds like an actual retard trying to speak english, and she sounds like a bored librarian speaking her native language. She has no body language, she has no facial expressions, she has no tone or passion.Contrast this with Liv, who both work and shoot has no idea what's being said, but still is oozing personality and character the entire time even though she barely says or does anything.
>>20144874>Penta>naturally charismaticIn what world faggot? It's just the mask charisma, without it he's another beaner. Berto and Garza have more charisma in their nipples than Penta does in his whole body
>>20144907Penta is so charismatic he literally got walking over, and gets huge pops for it. Your post is so dumb it doesn't even deserve a response
>>20144897Liv's literally just acting like a whore. She's nothing without Dominik. She always no sells her opponents or losses and always taken away the attention when she's ringside. She's pure slop.
>>20144907>it's just the mask charismaKek this just proves to me you don't actually watch WWE. I guess that's expected from someone whose waifu is tainted by the AEW stink.
>>20144907penta is one of the most charismatic wrestlers in the entire company. he got over on day 1 and has stayed over. primarily through doing a zesty walk and cutting deeply inspiring broken english promos. i would go as far as to say penta is one of the most charismatic wrestlers in the world to be frank.
>>20144880I mean, her entire rise throughout the ranks has been essentially promoters going ‘Qué buen culo’ and signing her up so it’s not surprising she never had to develop an actual gimmick beyond wearing skintight gear.
>>20144911When has Liv ever no sold anything?
>>20144920Yeah she's literally only over because she wears gear that accentuates her ass. Where ever these supposedly amazing promos that the schizo is talking about are coming from I don't know, but it certainly hasn't been in WWE.
>>20144923He's just making shit up at this point lol
>>20144674I hope Vaquer loses because she worka better as a chaser not as a ruler
>>20144911Liv steals people's attention because she's a star and people gravitate to her. You've been bitching about her "burying" people or no selling for years now and you have never given a single example of it other than her being more over than some shitter like Zelina or Roxanne
>>20144923She always laughs and jumps around like a retard in every promo and never acknowledges her losses
>>20144934She's just eye candy, that's all. 0 talent and everybody deep down knows it. I mean her nickname's been "Mid Morgan" for years for a reason, lmao.
>>20144936So she plays her gimmick and worked you, and you're mad about it
>>20144941No one but you calls her that (numerous times, daily, as you seethe)
>>20144943>So she plays her gimmick and worked youThat's why he's so mad. These are things Vaquer will never have or be able to do.
>>20144943Except she's the only one who does this shit because she's a selfmark and doesn't understand wrestling. Absolute garbage who can't sell feuds and gets carried by Dominik. She's insecure about the fact that nobody gave a shit about her and made fun of her for years and now she's no selling every opponent to look better than them.
>>20144951>now she's no selling every opponent to look better than them.An anon asked you for examples of this, how come you haven't provided them?
>>20144951Crazy how someone who doesn't understand wrestling can also apparently simultaneously have the knowledge to be a self mark who intentionally buries all her opponents while making herself a star
>>20144959Literally this video, lmao >>20144897 Bitch does nothing but sway her ass and talk to Dominik. Same happened when she was ringside with Dominik and Jade had her match with Jordynne. Jade was talking trash to her while she kept talking with Dominik.Just insecure selfmark stuff.>>20144960Someone who understands wrestling doesn't no sell her opponents and actually tries to make them look like a threat to gather interest in the feud, lmao. She's not a star, she literally has less followers on IG than the likes of Bayley, Natalya or Carmella kek.Livtards are as stupid as their favorite highschool drop out, lol
>>20144964You're literally getting worked by her character.
>>20144964you're literally getting worked by a wrestling persona and calling other people retarded
>>20144968>>20144970>No rebuttalYep, sounds like the average Livtard. Your favorite is an insecure highschool drop out shitter who's nothing without Dominik.
>>20144976Just name a singular person she's supposedly buried?
>>20144979Thankfully no one since this insecure selfmark has only feuded with Rhea who's the face of the division and now Stephanie who can't be buried no matter how much she's trying. She was no selling Zelina and Iyo too during their mini feuds. It's crazy how insecure she is.
>>20144990Glad you can finally admit everything you're bitching about never actually happened, and you got worked by a wrestling character.
>>20144995Tell this ugly bald hoe to stop being insecure and draw a dime on her own. Until then, she gets mogged weekly by Vaquer.
Kek I just remembered when this insecure bitch did this. Fucking lmao.
>>20145003>draw a dime on her own. top merch seller in the entire company male or female last time she was on the roster for a full year btw
>>20145013Thanks DominikOh, I just remembered another seethe moment from this insecure shitter, kek. Y2J! Y2J! Y2J!
>>20145013>I'm supposed to believe she sold more merch than Jey and Cody in 2024Kek
>>20145026WWE themselves are the source
Livcels really are obsessed and parasocial with their favorite insecure highschool drop out bald shitter.
>>20145020>Thanks DominikMost of the LivDom merch is on Dom's wwe shop page.>>20145030If I remember correctly she was the top merch seller for one month and the top selling woman of the year.
>>20145032Average Liv Morgan simp
Love VAQ. Love LIV.
>>20145008How is this insecure? She's being a locker room leader and looking out for her girl. Vaquer would have shaken her ass for a few dollar bills for him.
>>20144934Liv is hot. That doesn't make her a star. Her mics skills are trash and she isn't a credible threat for an opponent, but rather, a scrappy dog with a manlet complex similar to Rey Mysterio. She is often compared to Alexa Bliss, but Alexa has far more charisma, better mics skills and is an actual star. You people only like her because she is hot and dresses like a whore. She lacks substance.
>>20144674I hope Vaq slaps that dirty little puta into the ground.
>>20145465>You people only like her because she is hot and dresses like a whore.Weird way to describe Vaquer. Liv has more charisma in her pinky than Vaquer has shown over the course of her title reign. Her matches aren't anything to write home about and it was up to her to make the matches fun, but she didn't. So this means she failed to entertain the crowd which is why she will lose her title after a more than forgettable and unearned reign.
>>20146757liv couldnt get a good title reign eve if ripley wasnt involved
Is the bug boy still seething about Liv being more over in Japan than his favorite Joshi who’s the jannetty of rhiyo?
>>20144674Don't give a shit. WWE has not given me a reason to care about Vaquer. Yeah she's from Chile and loves her Dad. She isn't booked like a champion. Liv has been booked as the champion since she came back. I get it, she has a menacing laugh and looks like a whore. The lead women in WWE are all empty headed dumb fucks. Rhea is a walking SSRI with an eating disorder. The only one that is good is Becky Lynch but everyone else sucks and can't compete on the mic with her.
>>20147031>Rhea is a walking SSRI with an eating disorder.
>>20144880In the old days they would have solved this problem by giving her an energetic manager who could cut promos for her in English.
>>20147028>still dragging this japan stuff
>>20144674>AI tits on Liv
>>20147082>still mad over house shows
>>20147031>WWE has not given me a reason to care about Vaquer.why do you need video packages and commentary to make you care about wrestlers the promotion must suck if they cant get you invested
>>20147087It’s a push up
>>20147099Liv never wears a push-up, why would she do it for a marketing poster?
>>20147095Has she ever main evented the show? Has she ever been in an opening segment ? Has she ever been the story driven focus of a show? She never has. She's a placeholder champion that does nothing. She isn't focused like Iyo. She was given a toy to hold for Liv to win.
>>20147105>doesnt watch her run in nxt>doesnt watch her passable matches with iyo sky
>>20147113Most people that watch Raw/Smackdown will never watch NXT. She had a rocket strapped to her ass for no reason whatsoever and failed to seize the opportunity to make a name for herself and has given us a boring reign.
>>20147113what the f uck does NXT have to do with the main roster? Stop moving the goal posts you stupid fucking mark. I get you like her and want to jizz on her face but be objective or shut up
>>20147128>Most people that watch Raw/Smackdownthat explains it you guys like sloppy shit like jelly roll than try to say how good it is just cause aew exist
>>20147137>Stop moving the goal posts you stupid fucking mark.but enough about you
>>20147138By all means, Vaquer should go back to NXT and stop shitting up the main roster then. That way we won't have your mindless drivel plaguing big league threads and discuss either. It's a win win.
>>20147138>>20147142I can tell English is not your first language which is why she resonates so much with you. And that's ok
>>20147144*discussions
>>20147144>Vaquer should go back to NXT and stop shitting up the main roster then.
>>20147128>failed to seize the opportunityI'll give her credit she tried with the English. I guess the crowd kinda were getting into her because they felt sympathy for her and knew she was trying. Then she stopped that. Reverted to those backstage promo packages that Giulia does and nobody fucking cared again. It's mostly WWE booking thats the problem.
>>20144674I’m only watching for the potential Raquelita appearance
>>20144674They both stink. Liv and the Judgment Day are so boring and beyond stale and have been going on and on for years now. Vince would have replaced Liv already with Blake or Sol and Stephanie with Lola.
>>20147171>Reverted to those backstage promo packagesThat's the worst part, even in those super controlled environments she can't speak English. NXT is more her speed.
>>20147857>Stephanie with Lola.lola is too green thats disrespect to stephanie
>>20147171her career trajectory spiraled after she cut that terrible promo where she was visibly pissed off about the devil's kiss
>>20144674this ain't it, chief
Liv Raquel wouldve been better as theirs more heat to it, shouldve had Raquel win the belt in a Chamber match then go from there
>>20149520Yeah desu. Vaquer has overstayed her welcome at this point and Raquel vs. Liv would have definitely had more heat
>>20149520yeah dude so much story who cares if raquel is slower than a snail in ring
Vaquer vs Liv is not a championship caliber WrestleMania 42 match on the same tier as an NBA Finals, Super Bowl, MLB World Series, Stanley Cup Finals or even a FIFA World Cup Finals.
>>20144674This would interest me.
