>>20229308
Tony Fumbled

>>20229308
nothing wrong with being a midcarder

Haitch was never a good booker. Even NXT was mediocre at best and just got overrated by marks. NXT was already suffering from the predictable, 250+ days long reigns under Haitch like the main roster now.

CM Punk is the most over full time wrestler in the WWE right now. This also shows how grim the situation is that the most over full time wrestler is someone who is out of shape and looks pushing 60 and should’ve never come out of retirement.

Cody Rhodes sucks and was never good in the first place. The only reason he got over was because everyone was so tired of Roman. The reason the WM40 main event was ””hijacked”” was more about people absolutely not wanting Roman vs Rock. And Cody put back into the picture was more than likely about Rock’s fragile ego getting upset not fans’ actual ability to influence outcomes, Twitter just being delusional as usual thought they had a hand in it

>>20229308
Thekla's promos suck

he was in a frisky mood

>>20229308
Thekla's paintings suck

The Young Bucks are a net positive in the wrestling industry

>>20229308
CM punk is a talented and charismatic wrestler

this is an extremely reddit thread

>>20229327
i thought that’s something most people actually agree on, with people like Kane, Christian Cage, Kofi Kingston being universally liked both by wrestling fans and wrestlers

>>20229364
>t. can't swallow pills

>>20229364
some pill ya cant swallow?

>>20229308
Fake fighting is stupid and logically we shouldnt like it

>>20229372
>>20229375
>choking on the only truth posted ITT
The irony is clearly lost on you two.

>>20229394
was the point of /asp/ where pro wrestling was just material for shitposting
/pw/ taking wrestling seriously just shows this place has become another subreddit

>>20229397
>no u
huh wat u mean

>>20229337
Those are your own biases and headcanon creations, not reality. Find something to enjoy and be positive about.

>>20229405
Keep seething, it only makes the pill harder to swallow.

>>20229402
console wars killed shitposting not changing boards lmao, at most at most splitting from /asp/ made us basically unmoderated for a long ass while

>>20229397
Do you need some s0qƴ to help you swallow those pills?

>>20229409
>cant swallow pills
ngmi

The need for huge jacked muscle men to be the only men in wrestling is pure bodybuilding Vinceism and closet homosexuality.
The reality is that wrestling is unironically a small man's sport.
The perfect wrestler would be short and stocky. Low center of gravity for greater balance and maneuverability and far greater in ring longevity due to less weight on legs and hip. This is why smaller guys can usually still wrestle into their 60s and bigger guys have trouble walking by 40.

Wrestlers aren’t all supposed to be Supermen. This was done purely to capture the female audience and gays went along for that ride.
Sammartino was 5’10”. Big men are supposed to be very rare spectacles, not the norm. Wrestling is a small man sport,

>>20229327
That Triple H story about telling the locker room Arn Anderson was a Midcarder exists only because people were talking money btw

Buddy is injured.

>>20229308
it WAS a gay magazine

>>20229402
This.
I'm tired of people bitching about shit not being on topic enough or not having enough wrestling discussion.
Want serious discussion? Go back to SquaredCircle. This is 4chan. It's an anonymous image board. It's for pictures and shitposting and other stupid shit.

>>20229337
>250+ days long reigns under Haitch like the main roster now.
He's been hotshotting all the titles for over a year now

>>20229308
AEW is vastly superior to wwmeme

Thekla's comic books suck

Cornette is a leftoid cuck

>>20229569
4chan was for both and that's why it was good but tourists like your wortheless ass killed it by treating it as nothing but a toilet
first reason this board is fucking dead btw, there's no OC, no memes, nothing at all when everything is low effort shitpost

>>20229600
>leftoid
You say it like it's an insult

>>20229337
>Haitch was never a good booker. Even NXT was mediocre at best and just got overrated by marks.
Most people I knew were saying that ironically to shit on WWE since the only thing good from them at the time was NXT, clueless mark.

>>20229623
Yeah, I'm sure it had nothing to do with your retarded ass running people off with your shitty personality.
Why the fuck would anyone with anything of value to contribute want to stick around here when doing so involves catering to assholes like (You).

>>20229308
Women’s wrestling is only watched by simps and lesbians and it has ruined the entire wrestling industry

>>20229623
They hated him for telling the truth

>>20229637
Considering you are all mentally ill degenerates, it is

>>20229701
Lesbians dont even watch it and yes, it has ruined the industry

>>20229712
Rhea fans

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>>20229701
>wrestling should just be beefy boys
Hey, you dropped this

>>20229641
NXT was never good

>>20229719
>incel simp calls someone gay for not liking shit wrestling
Every time.
Simping will never get you laid.

>>20229726
I didn't say you had to like it.
I merely pointed out that other people are allowed to like it and it doesn't make them a simp or lesbian. Why does that upset you so much?

>>20229731
No, it does make you a simp
Why does that make you mad?
Are you in denial?

>>20229734
You're the one who says it shouldn't exist at all.
Sounds pretty gay to me tbqh but you do you. No one is saying you actually have to like it personally.
Sorry it makes you mad to be called out on that though.

>>20229739
Wrestling was mega popular when there were bascially no women's matches
Now, its in the shitter and womyn main event shows
Really makes soneone who isn't a simp think

>>20229747
Correlation isn't causation, but you'd know that if you ever took a logic 101 class.

>>20229749
I accept your defeat, simp

>>20229756
Cool, guess that means you can go back to sucking your boyfriend's cock then

There has not been a single promotion worth following show to show since 2012. Wrestling has been getting worse and worse since the 80s and by 2012 there was nothing left.
wrestlers clearing helping each other set up spots is bad and makes a match an instant dud.
A wrestler visibly missing strikes and the other guy still selling is bad and makes a match an instant dud.
A wrestler clearly waiting to be dived on, still misses their catch, but bumps anyway is bad and makes a match an instant dud.
It’s ok to demand more from modern wrestling.
It’s always better to watch older wrestling.

The sweet spot between every thread being about how Cena sucked and everyone thinking they were a wrestling expert cause they pirated their first Kevin steen match /wooo/ was one of the best boards to be on. That brief moment when people were actually curious about exploring smaller promotions and wrestling history before they all started cosplaying as experts and sicked the mods on real experts that were trying to guide them.

>>20229327
Cody seemed to think so

>>20229692
pretty funny that you jump at my so-called personality based of three lines of posting, saying I'm an asshole for pointing out that you've probably never made a single worthwhile contribution here by treating this place like meaningless shit
You're a mentally ill idiot, the exact kind of braindead cunt that spends 12 hours a day shitting up the board then wondering why no one else's here anymore
But of course, it's everybody else's fault, they should have been more like you and the place would be better
fucking buy a mirror, your monitor is far too dirty

This board is beyond help and rarely ever funny anymore

>>20229813
You're actually posting like a fedora tipping 12 years old lmao
Great job making this board a better place

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>>20229308
- Tony Khan won the /pw/ KWABOTY 4 times in a row and it was named the "Tony Khan Award" already by the 3rd win. Claiming anything else is a massive sad cope by faggots who take wrestling too seriously and can't live with the fact that their golden boy sucks at so many fucking things regarding producing wrestling you'd think it's a giant dog cock. Or that someones making fun of Tony or them.

On the opposite side:
- Tony Khan and AEW existing is a net positive for wrestling, despite killing their audience from the peak. If AEW didn't employ Lucha Bros for years, they might have never made it to WWE and Penta for one of the saving graces right now in the sad state of current year WWE main roster.

- AEW dropping viewers isn't the death some detractors are hoping for, TNA was a warehouse show with a 1000 viewers in 2020 and it dragged itself up back to TV. Some of us actually hope AEW gets it's shit together more even though we think AEW is pretty gay.

>>20229876
You're literally insulting me far morecopiously than I did in your first reply and get workied up over the fact that you people treating this place like shit turned it into, surprise, shit
Get help or jump off a bridge, I really don't give a fuck

>>20229892
wah wah wah get fucked
keep treating every conversation like you just did then acting like everybody else is the issue lmao
Crazy board innit
try to have serious discussions, I get schizos
wanna shitpost for fun I get schizos
I complain about the fact that schizos are far too present on this board and take pride in always having treated it like shit, and guess what I get, a fucking schizo
I am shocked and appalled

>>20229308
Vince hasn’t had power over the booking since at least 2005, maybe even since 2000 when Stephanie took over the booking, and over time HHH and Stephanie gradually gained more influence until Vince tried to push them out, so they made up the sex scandal to finally take power back

>>20229308
All wrestling is instantly forgettable pop culture. Nobody remembers anything about matches except big spots.

>>20229887
Maybe I jumped on you a little hard. That's my response when I feel that someone is jumping on me. I wrote another response (which you replied to) >>20229901 but deleted it because I guess I'm being a bit of an asshole myself.
Neither of us is the reason this board sucks (I hope). Personally, I like a mix of crap and quality in my image boards. Sure, I prefer the latter but sometimes you gotta allow the former for that to happen. It's the stupid shitposts that sometimes produce the best gems. People have to feel free to put their balls on the chopping block and take risks if you want good stuff.
Now let's move on. No one's here to see us fight and we've derailed this thread far enough. I'm sorry I called you an asshole.

>>20229907
alright thanks lad have a good one I guess

>>20229910
You as well. And for the record I'm sure you're alright. I can be a major dick at times and I definitely was here in this thread.

>>20229912
don't worry brah, we all are, that's why we post here lmao
insults are normal but calling someone a retard should not equal stopping taking the topic at hand serioulsy

>>20229918
No, you're right, it shouldn't. Hope you enjoy the rest of your Sunday bro.

>>20229708
>getting called a degenerate by some MAGA cultist faggot
An honor

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WWE is unironically dead without Vince and it's his fault for never properly grooming Shane or Steph but instead making the mistake that they too should ruthlessly take over the company from him like he did with his own father. Vince will always be white trash for this.

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>>20229308
WWE and AEW are both tranny feds, and a whole bunch of others are, too.

>>20229930
>it was an honor to cut my dick off
ok but you also lost lmao

>>20229931
>Vince will always be white trash for this.
and a lot of other things, too

Triple H is an awful booker because he cares too much about what others think which is why he's always been appeasing the smarks since the curtain call incident.

Shane is too nice and not ruthless enough to run a company

Steph is a woman

WWE was always destined to fail as Vince aged out

comedy wrestling is essential to a good show
it's a palate cleanser that lets an audience loosen up, it makes the serious bits more serious, it makes a wrestling card's hierarchy make sense by being lower on the card and obviously lower stakes, also almost everyone is some sarcastic bad ass main character so there are all these comebacks and zingers but not as much actual comedy or laughs to break things up, it's also one of the few avenues that a heel will truly look like a dumb fucking piece of shit who got what they deserved instead of another main character guy who just scowls more but has to look strong

>>20229768
Simp gets mad and then starts to project

>>20229930
Okay pedophile

>>20229958
here's a hard to swallow pill: all wrestlers are comedy wrestlers, "comedy wrestler" is a meaningless, vacuous insult used by losers who take pro wrestling way too seriously because they've never known the touch of a woman

>>20229962
>prefering to look at scantily clad women instead of scantily clad men is acktually gay
Retardation at its finest, ya cocksmoking faggot.

>>20229964
Says the guy who defends actual pedophiles to own the libs.

>>20229327
>t.midcarder

>>20229308
Wrestling is gay

>>20229989
Less hard pill to swallow and more the 800lb gorilla in the room.

>>20229308
it will never ever be as enjoyable as the first two years you started watching regardless what time period you started

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South park was right. They just want acting, music and karaoke. Once the bell ring they stop giving a fuck, until the next match entrance, they know this shit is fake. S13E10.

CM Punk has had a net negative impact on the wrestling business as a whole

>>20229958
there’s too stark a divide at least in modern WWE between “comedy wrestlers” and “serious wrestlers”
guys like rock and angle were hilarious and could go from making the audience laugh to totally whooping ass in a second, the show lacks this these days, everybody is either a boring no personality faggot or a comedy jobber

>>20229308
flips are cool

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>>20229308
Punk is a Draw and a great wrestler.

>>20229308
No matter how much you cry online about something it'll never actually matter

>>20229308
wwe is to blame for aew’s existence

aew never happens or even lasts to this day of HIAC 2019 wasnt as abysmally horrific as it ended up being.

>>20229308
Marks are good fans who keep the magic of wrestling alive.

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>>20229308
Wrestling was watched differently back then, and its current form is only liked out of habit from long time fans and through an ironic post modern lens by smarks.
Those who would have been marks before the 80s, lower class guys mainly, are now watching MMA; Televised wrestling brought in a new audience on which did not care much about the matches but watched wrestling for the spectacle it offered in an era with less competition in entertainment.

Imo the only way for wrestling to get a true second wind ( And one not dependant on Saudi money ) would be to either completely double down on the entertainment part, and actually get decent actors instead of failed college athletes and wrestling school geeks and reinvent the buisness as a whole, following the path of LU or just incorporate shoot aspect into it, something like Real American Freestyle but better handled and not boring.

Also DDT and german suplex should stop being used as transitional moves, they look more brutal than most modern finishers.

>>20229701
Tsar bomba level trvke
Idk why simps can even be in denial about that, when their thread are just babytalk and simp posting gifs and pics of their fav girls.
Every type of fandom have those, no one care about the Botez sister for their chess skills, it's aight, but with wrestling we're somehow supposed to pretend that people like Rhea or Jade for the same reason people like Cody or Sami.

Roman is a part-timer.
Ruby was better than Liv.
Punk isn't punk anymore.
Max Dupri is dimeless.
McAfee is good as a heel but sucks dick as a face.
Not every frog splash is an homage or mockery of Eddie Guerrero.
Triple H thinks 'young' means 'black'.

I might post if I think of any more.

There's no blueprint to drawing. There's no checklist to being a star. For everything that is "needed" to be a top guy", there are examples of people with those things who never even reached midcard, and there are people who have none of those things that filled the venue

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>>20229579

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>>20230191
Riiiiiiiight....

>>20229308
You can bring the world's biggest celebrities into wrestling, that won't make normalfags start watching it
Flippy shit is more appealing to most people than slowly working a bunch of holds and pretending to be an amateur wrestler
Brits are a net negative on wrestling as a whole

>>20229947
This

edrones should be happy they still at least get this niggertranny ad sponsored fed and the company didn't completely go under like WCW under another entity or money mark

>>20229327
Maybe back in the day, but there are no good main eventers anywhere now and anyone with potential should get a shot.

>>20230392
>Roman is a part-timer.
What a controversial, edgy and refreshing opinion.

>>20230353
gms

AEW is by far a net positive not just for wrestling as a whole, but for WWE.

Logan Paul is the only male wrestler in the entire industry who would have been a star 20 years ago

Heyman and ECW were the original Tony and AEW.

>>20230640
The locker room 20 - 25 years ago would have eaten him for lunch.

>>20230797
I've been saying this for years. AEW is the closest thing there is to a modern ECW.

>>20230810
Logan has legitimate athletic credentials and more business and street smarts than 99% of wrestlers have ever had.

>>20230832
I didn't say he isn't athletic or even that he isn't one of the most qualified to do it today, but wrestlers back then were bigger and tougher and meaner.
Billy Gunn didn't really make a huge name for himself in that field and he was 6'5" and weighed around 260 lbs.

>>20230869
>wrestlers were always fake tough guys
logan could rape any of them

>>20230876
Okay zoomer

>>20230869
Logan is 6'3 in great shape and was a legitimate wrestling champion. The only people in the locker room 20 years ago who could actually fuck with him are Brock and Angle, and they wouldn't because he's dimes and would make them money

>>20230892
He's on the skinny side of 6'2" as far as pro-wrestling is concerned.
Given that the audience back then wasn't zoomers he'd likely have X-Pac heat since those of us in the older generations find him obnoxious af.

>>20230823
Except ECW was actually cool. Comparing Tony Khan to Paul Heyman is laughable

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>>20230929
>He's on the skinny side of 6'2" as far as pro-wrestling is concerned.
Yeah he could never beat up a real athlete like Haku

>>20230629
tatum tummy! Agoogoo i want mommy rhea's milky!!!

>>20229308
Will Ospreay is a good wrestler

>>20229327
nothing wrong with being a jobber either to be honest. if i had to choose between hiring the average midcarder of today and someone like heath slater, i'd pick heath slater ten times out of ten. good jobbers are extremely valuable and while slater was respected and liked, he's still underrated

>>20230965
>Idk why simps can even be in denial about that, when their thread are just babytalk
Good morning saar!

>>20229308
That technique for administering a pill to a cat is so unfathomably mindfuckingly gorillanigger retarded.

>>20231008
That's how I did it for baby when I got her spayed. I tried putting it in her food and she just wouldn't eat it.

>>20230969
he is not

>>20231057
He unironically is though

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>>20229701
>Women’s wrestling is only watched by simps and lesbians
I would say 90% simps 10% lesbians but 100% incels who will never ever have sex and care primarily about having attractive women on the screen they can have sad little daydreams about
>it has ruined the entire wrestling industry
I wouldn't agree with that but it certainly ruined /pw/.

>>20230974
I want liv cummies!!!!

>>20231068
>100% incels who will never ever have sex and care primarily about having attractive women on the screen they can have sad little daydreams about
kek, imagine being a pro-wrestling fan and sitting this high on your goddamn high horse

>>20231083
You're entitled to simp for and jack off to mid women who won't even show their tits, despite being sexually inactive yourself.
We're entitled to find you pathetic.

>>20229308
Fans did more damage to wrestling than WWE or any other promotion because they’re one of the few fanbases I know of that constantly talk down on what they like

>>20231094
You're making a whole lot of assumptions about me.
Meanwhile, you're a fucking pro-wrestling fan dude. Go take a shower, trim up your neckbeard a bit, and lose some goddamn weight.

>>20231102
Vidya?
Music?

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>>20231083
>your such an elitist for have sex one or more times and not daydreaming every day about women you'll never meet

>>20231110
gms

>>20231109
Comparing how many music and video game fans compared to wrestling fans is the most braindead take I’ve seen today. Congrats on that.

>>20231108
My bad b, i'm sure that Alexa Bliss shirt got chicks dripping at the rave, glad to know you don't like wrestling tho! Sure sold me on you being a stud.

>>20231121
>they’re one of the few fanbases I know of that constantly talk down on what they like
Is what you said
Not my fault you are retarded.

>>20231121
gms

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>>20231060
I'll give him credit, he makes less stupid faces than he did in Japan. But he's still bad in the ring.

>>20229308
Royal Rumble is a kayfabe retarded way to determine the main event of your promotion's biggest event. If it were introduced today, smarks would shit all over it

John Cena was the biggest backstage politicking asshole in the business. He was just better at it.

AEW is the objectively better wrestling product but it will never attain the prestige and aura that the WWE has, no matter how much money Tony's dad pumps into it.

>>20230939
It was the same kind of action figure fed Tony runs but with a lower budget.

You don't need the belt on you to be a main eventer. For example, Scott Hall.

>>20230970
I fucking miss Heath Slater. Dude was so entertaining.

Benoit didn't do it and was framed
Own was a sacrifice

Wrestling was only good in a window between 1996 and 2002
Before that it was hokey or boring and after that it's just heatless garbage

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>>20229308
Women are the future main draw of wrestling because male value has never been lower as we creep towards a Spartan/Barbie-land tier society where men are the simp underclass.

>>20231060
he is unironically worse than the miz. muh flips and superhero poses are not dimes.

>>20230970
career-jobber even used to be an actual thing not just a term to mock someone like Baron Corbin

>>20230516
It took me a long time to come to terms with it.

>>20229308
Bros you can just put pills in those pill pocket things made out of food. Cats love that shit.

>>20231724
Greatest invention ever, really.

>>20229701
Very true, and not a hard pill to swallow at all.

>>20231753
Then it didn't belong in this thread in the first place and you can go ahead and stop samefagging it.

>>20229327
>>20230970
Nothing wrong with having a job and a steady income. After all card gotta be filled with solid acts building up to the main event

>>20231763
Slater, Hawkins and Fandango were also the most over guys backstage, midcarders and jobbers are actually valued by their co-workers

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>>20230433
Tranny be seething

>>20229308
women's wrestling sucks

>>20232016
>wrestling pills hard to swallow

Watching women's wrestling is like cheering for kids at some pointless competition. "Yay! Come on! You can do it! Yay, you can wrestle!" It's just not entertaining. I feel like I'm being put through something I didn't ask for.

>>20232067
Which is cool, but this is a thread for pills that are hard to swallow. Citing common opinions that are obvious isn't really a hard pill.

wwe was always better than aew

If it works, it works. And even though I despise watching them, the young cucks make it work. It's the same kind of formula guys like Bret Hart and Ric Flair did. Same match every time but the crowd always eats it up.

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>>20232067
I think women's wrestling is to be watched in private with your pants down as a form of softcore pornography. Don't take bra and panties matches seriously

WWE has been TNA-tier dogshit for a full decade now

>/wooo/ will always be the superior message board

>Some parts of wrestling need to be outlandishly bad to be enjoyable

>Drugs, steroids, and actual heat between the wrestlers made for a better product